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Nintendo Direct – Dec 18: All the news and trailers here

Wednesday, 18th December 2013 13:47 GMT By Dave Cook

Rosalina in Smash Bros. and Mario Kart 8! A Zelda and Dynasty Warriors crossover! A new Chibi Robo game! Dr. Luigi on Wii U! NES Remix! Get all the news and trailers in here, friends.

Today’s Nintendo Direct stream can be found through the link, and will focus on Nintendo’s 3DS and Wii U slate from now until Spring 2014.

The stream opened with president Satoru Iwata promised some news on Wii U and 3DS titles.

First, a new collaborative effort promised to combine the action of Tecmo Koei’s ‘Warriors’ series with Zelda. It showed Link cutting through scores of enemies hack-and-slash style, fighting huge monsters on a battlefield and opening a chest with that classic musical sting. The project’s working title is Hyrule Warriors. It’s due for Wii U and is not to be considered the next core Zelda title.

The bloody gorgeous and dangerously cute Kirby: Triple Deluxe on 3DS was next. A new clip showed off Kirby’s new ‘Hyper Nova’ ability, which charges up his suction attack to crazy levels. The dream prince has four new abilities and must dodge threats coming from the background and foreground.

Triple Deluxe comes with two new modes. The first is Kirby Fighters, which is a four-player fight mode that sees combatants battling online using new abilities. You can play solo against AI if you wish. Next is Dedede’s Drum Dash, which sees the tyrant king jumping on drums in time with the music to collect coins along to classic Kirby songs from across the series.

Next, Yoshi’s New Island was confirmed as still in development at Nintendo, along with a new trailer that showed him gobbling up a giant Shy Guy to produce a huge egg. As ever, Mario was perched on Yoshi’s rump looking adorable. The game is out Spring 2014.

Iwata teased that the 3DS e-Shop will receive a new Chibi Robot title – Chibi Robo: Photo Finder – in which the metallic hero must help a museum prosper. he’s been enlisted by the museum’s curator to snap objects using his camera. You need to find real world objects, snap them with your 3DS and fit orders sent by the curator.

Once snapped, the images will become objects in the game that the curator will add to exhibitions. Lots of people need help around the museum, but Chibi Robo needs to watch his power supply at all times. Chibi Robo: Photo Finder is coming out in North America on January 9.

Iwata then confirmed that Pokemon Bank and Poke Transporter will launch December 27, and a free 30-day trial will be available until the end of January. Use either service before September 30 and you’ll get Celebi for free.

Reggie Fils-Aime then confirmed that Bravely Default: Flying Fairy is getting a free demo on the 3DS eShop that will deliver a side-story to the main game. It’s coming January 2.

Cranky Kong was then announced as playable in Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze. Cranky and Donkey can unleash a team attack that turns all on-screen enemies into items. The game’s out February 21 on Wii U.

Sonic Lost World is getting two new pieces of DLC. First up is a Yoshi’s Island-themed world dubbed ‘Yoshi’s Island Zone.’ It comes with pipes, Shy Guys and other staples from Yoshi’s series, along with its classic soundtrack. The DLC is free and available now. Nintendo also teased some Zelda-themed content for the game in due course.

Wii Sport Club is getting golf today in Europe, and you’ll can sample a free 24-hour trial across golf, tennis and bowling via the Wii U eShop right now.

NES Remix was then announced. It takes 16 classic Nintendo titles such as Donkey Kong, Excitebike and The Legend of Zelda then mashes them up with new ideas and challenges. Its out today on Wii U at £8.99, and will reward players with 8-bit MiiVerse stamps:

The year of Luigi continues with Dr. Luigi, a new take on the NES original Dr. Mario. It hits the Wii U eShop on January 15 in Europe, priced £13.49, and to the US on December 31. It adds new gameplay modes, online battles and pesky L-shaped pills into the mix.

Iwata then explained that if you register or link your Nintendo Network ID on 3DS between December 10 and January 31, Nintendo will gift you a free download code for Super Mario Bros. Deluxe.

Speaking of Mario, Super Mario Bros. 3 will hit the Wii U and 3DS Virtual Console on December 26. There will be discounts during launch week.

Big news for puzzle fans, as 3DS cross-over Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Versus Professor Layton was confirmed for European release on March 28th.

Super Smash Bros. and Mario Kart 8 then got trailers at the end. You can watch them below as soon as they go live, but interestingly, Rosalina and Luma were added to Sakurai’s brawler. Look:

The duo are also playable in Mario Kart 8 along with Baby Mario and Baby Luigi. You can see them in the trailer below. Nintendo later confirmed in a press release that the racer will launch Spring 2014, and that he game’s vehicle roster currently includes UFOs, four-wheel ATV buggies, standard karts and bikes.

Trailers:

Hyrule Warriors

Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze

Chibi Robo! Photo Finder

Sonic Lost World: Yoshi’s Island DLC stage

NES Remix

Smash Bros.

Mario Kart 8

Breaking news

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  1. Legendaryboss

    Oh i can comment again? YAY!

    #1 4 months ago
  2. Legendaryboss

    So will we be seeing more Cranky Kong?

    #2 4 months ago
  3. Hcw87

    More Mario, more Donkey Kong, some more Mario, a hint of Luigi and some more Mario.

    Maybe some Bayonetta 2. But most likely a dose of Mario.

    Maybe some new RPG’s? Nah, i’ll go with more Mario.

    #3 4 months ago
  4. Fin

    What’s this Hyrule Warriors thing.

    #4 4 months ago
  5. Dark

    @4 a Zelda Dynasty Warriors from Tecmo Koei lol.

    #5 4 months ago
  6. Fin

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtelgRzc3IU

    Man Nintendo have no fuckin idea what they’re doing.

    #6 4 months ago
  7. Legendaryboss

    So we have:
    Monster Hunter 4 X Zelda+Mario DLC.
    Monster Hunter Frontier X Fire Emblem Costumes.
    Dynasty Warriors X Zelda = Hyrule Warriors.
    Sonic Lost World X Yoshi’s Island DLC.
    Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem.

    What else? How many crossovers is Nintendo planning?

    #7 4 months ago
  8. CyberMarco

    I think Dark was spot on! :P

    #8 4 months ago
  9. Legendaryboss

    Oh man the fixation with Nintendo franchises onto third party stuff (Games or otherwise) is too much, could go as far to say its whoring out franchises now.

    #9 4 months ago
  10. Ireland Michael

    @9 Its coming off a bit desperate at this stage, yeah.

    I’m half convinced there must be some sort of clause in place to encourage this sort of thing, like reduced licensing fees if you include nods to Nintendo franchise in your game or something. It’s very strange.

    #10 4 months ago
  11. CyberMarco

    What a show…

    #11 4 months ago
  12. Dragon

    Today was supposed to be a good day for Ninty fans with an awesome Wii U sales boost in Japan…
    Then this came.

    To be fair though, Ninty didnt try to generate false hype around this, unlike the VGX (god bless that atrocity).

    #12 4 months ago
  13. Moonwalker1982

    I was afraid they wouldn’t show MK8 at all, meaning it wouldn’t be a Spring game. But they did and it looks great. I am also GLAD as hell that ain’t the new Zelda. Almost got a heartattack.

    #13 4 months ago
  14. Ireland Michael

    @12 Every single time I hear there’s going to be a new Nintendo Direct, I hold out hope beyond hope that it will be an episode wroth watching, that something great will finally be announced… 9 times out of 10, I’m left drowning in a pool of tragic tears, born of complete and utter disappointment.

    #14 4 months ago
  15. Dragon

    @14,
    This format isn’t working, its clear as day. They need to make big announcements at big stage, and not be a Scrooge and put them out in some YT videos.

    …..
    WAIT, NEWS JUST COMING IN-
    Ninty hit with content ID claims by some shitty music company no one heard of.

    #15 4 months ago
  16. Moonwalker1982

    Who else is afraid this new Tecmo Zelda means no TRUE Zelda in 2014 coming out? Will we see it during E3? Sure! But release? Don’t believe it for a sec.

    #16 4 months ago
  17. Fin

    @15

    “big announcements”?

    Haven’t seen one of those from Nintendo in a loooong time.

    @16

    There won’t be a new Zelda next year.

    #17 4 months ago
  18. mistermogul

    Thing I don’t get is why would Nintendo want to do a crossover with the Dynasty Warriors franchise when basically those games are er… shit?

    @3 – dude go and stick your cock back in your xbox, you’re comments on Sony/Nintendo threads are tiring.

    #18 4 months ago
  19. Dragon

    @16,
    Was mainline Zelda ever planned for 2014 for Wii U? I seriously doubt it.

    Then again, what else do they have for Christmas 2014?

    Not that it matters though :P

    @17,
    Bbbbbut Cranky Kong!

    #19 4 months ago
  20. Ireland Michael

    @16 Considering there hadn’t even been an announcement yet, don’t expect anything until 2015… at the earliest, and even then only if you’re lucky.

    #20 4 months ago
  21. fihar

    Well, after the last Chibi Robo game for the DS didn’t get localized, I nevet thought we’d see another one but lo and behold, it’s back!
    Too bad this one sounds like a stinker.

    But hey, more Yoshi’s Island is always welcomed.

    #21 4 months ago
  22. polygem

    it´s full of great stuff. have you bought a ps4 yet? if so you´d know how depressing and average gaming can be despite being hyped through the roof and up to the moon. these games shown here all make me smile. the nintendo outputs are literally the games that keep making me excited about gaming in general to a huge degree. these and the rare gems like destiny, the souls games and some indie titles. every single one of the games shown here screams fun. i really don´t get how anyone cannot be excited about these games. i just don´t get it.

    #22 4 months ago
  23. Ireland Michael

    @22 I *love* Nintendo games… and I still think these all look charmless and boring.

    About the only thing there that l found enjoyable looking was Smash Bros., and I’m fully aware that’s only because of personal bias since I really enjoy fighting games.

    #23 4 months ago
  24. polygem

    serioulsly. i hope nintendo wont ever listen to the guys wanting more “mature” stuff. they are delivering exactly what i want from them right now. the best games i have played the last 2 years have been on nintendo platforms, i just love miiverse…and people say that´s all not enough? ffs this is so mad.

    #24 4 months ago
  25. Fin

    @22

    See, to me, every game they screamed WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT WE’RE DOING BUT JESUS PLEASE BUY SOMETHING THAT MAKES YOU FEEL NOSTALGIC.

    Dr Luigi? Seriously?

    The only thing that I was remotely interested in was Wii U Sports Club Golf (fuck, what a title), as I thoroughly enjoyed 4-player Wii Sports Golf years ago.
    Everything else, my god I’d take BF4 MP over all of them combined.

    A new character for SSB.
    Dr Luigi.
    NES Remix.
    Yoshi’s New Island.
    Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze.
    A Zelda spinoff of a distinctly sub-par franchise.

    Seriously, PS4 and X1 are out, with Titanfall, Driveclub, Infamous coming early next year (not to mention Watch Dogs), and this is what they come out with? Plus Destiny, Crew, Division, Order Q3/Q4.

    #25 4 months ago
  26. polygem

    @23: they absolutely push all of my buttons. 2013 was so amazing with zelda link between worlds, sm3dw, luigi mansion2, fire emblem, pikmin, mario luigi dream team,windwakerhd, dkcr for the 3ds and so much more. now there´s the new kirby and the yoshi yarn and new island, the nes remix, the chibi robo game, mk and dkctf and smash bros. i want to play all of these so badly. it´s so much good stuff. it´s almost too much. i can´t see what´s wrong with that lineup, not at all. it´s almost perfect. for me it works pretty damn well, that´s why i don´t get all the negative reactions. they deliver what i want from them…it seems that people just want different things from nintendo, maybe you wont get it. i hope so, because they are absolutely creating the games that i want :)

    #26 4 months ago
  27. mistermogul

    @23 – Surely you gotta be looking forward to the new DK? Did you play the last one on Wii? If not you should. Platforming at its best…

    Also MK looks good but I hope they’ve sorted the rubber-banding out as it ruins it for me. You shouldn’t be penalised for doing well, it sucks.

    #27 4 months ago
  28. Judicas

    @22 I agree, the next time I see a wii u in a good sale I’m picking one up. Sat through most of these vids with a big smile on my face which doesn’t really happy that often with other more modern games, sometimes just plain fun is good for a change

    #28 4 months ago
  29. Ireland Michael

    @26 The fact that they’re all so completely devoid of original ideas that they literally feel like nothing more than visually up scaled takes on the exact same games we’ve already played before.

    A Link Between Worlds is great, but that’s the exception, not the rule.

    The company has somehow become incapable of innovating even within its franchises, which was *not* a problem in the past. It’s what they were good at… and that seems to have somehow gone completely in the span of a generation.

    @28 Not even remotely. It looks stilted, sluggish and boring. After playing Rayman Legends, they all do.

    #29 4 months ago
  30. Francis O

    @25

    You might not like the games, but a lot of people do. I don’t give a crap about Titanfall, The Crew, or The Order 1886.

    Zelda X Dynasty Warriors looks great
    Mario Kart 8 looks amazing
    DkC is going to be great
    Super Smash bros looks great
    Kirby, Chibi Robo, Yoshi’s Island, Bravely Default, all look good.

    Not to mention Nintendo still has: Bayonetta 2, Zelda Wii U, Monolith Soft’s X, and more projects we don’t know about

    I suggest you stop coming to Nintendo articles if all you like is shooting and driving games.

    #30 4 months ago
  31. silkvg247

    I bought a WiiU the other week and I really actually like the console. Moreso than the PS4 which we’ve also bought. This may change eventually since the PS4 has sod all games out yet.

    So it’s a real shame that they aren’t jumping on obvious opportunities on the console and instead releasing very average ideas.

    #31 4 months ago
  32. The_Red

    Wait, is Nintendo making Hyrule Warriors or Koei? If it’s the former, I’d be genuinely interested. If it’s the latter, they can shove their 3 billion “Warriors” spin-offs and sequels up their asses.

    #32 4 months ago
  33. Ireland Michael

    @30 His problem isn’t with the genres. That’s a lazy and self serving assumption.

    His problem is with the lack of creative ideas.

    @32 Probably Koei, with input from Nintendo. Kind of like how Other M was developed.

    #33 4 months ago
  34. CyberMarco

    @Polugem

    “have you bought a ps4 yet?”
    Nope!

    “if so you´d know how depressing and average gaming can be”
    You are right, that’s why I wont bother getting one until there are games that I’m interested in (KH3, FFXV, MGSV etc.).

    ” despite being hyped through the roof and up to the moon.”
    Wasn’t the WiiU hyped too when it was released?

    “the nintendo outputs are literally the games that keep making me excited about gaming in general to a huge degree.”
    That’s good for you I guess. Nothing wrong with that.

    “these and the rare gems like destiny, the souls games and some indie titles”
    I think you are exaggerating a bit.

    Also regarding PS4/XB1 lacking games, it’s obvious duh! Those systems are barely a month old but we know that some crazy ass AAA games are coming, exclusive and 3rd party, so everyone can get their fix. But with the WiiU on the other hand IMHO Nintendo hasn’t delivered anything ground-breaking yet, and it’s entering its 2nd year. By the time the XB1/PS4 reach 1 year in the market I’m sure most people wont have the same feeling as they do with the WiiU right now.

    I wonder why it takes so long to make some great Zelda, Metroid games or new franchises. They’ve probably being/or could have been developing them from ~2011 or something.

    #34 4 months ago
  35. Fin

    @30

    Errr, I honestly can’t tell if you’re trolling.

    “You might not like the games, but a lot of people do. ”

    Knack outsold Super Mario 3D World.

    “Zelda X Dynasty Warriors looks great”

    Ever played a Dynasty Warriors game? TIP: They suck.

    “more projects we don’t know about”

    Errrrr. I know a lot of projects for PS4/X1 that we don’t know about that look awesome.

    Dude, I like aaalll sorts of games (favourites this year were Rayman Legends, GTA, Last of Us, Diablo), but when Nintendo are remaking the same game for years and years and years, it’s hard not to dislike them. It’s like Mike said above, Link Between Worlds is the only game that’s got a remotely original idea in their current slate.

    #35 4 months ago
  36. polygem

    @Fin: from your list i only really want destiny

    donkey kong country returns is the best 2d platformer i´ve played…probably ever. i´m on my third playthrough atm on the 3ds. i love that game, of course i am excited about tropical freeze. a lot.

    nes remix is exactly what i want. the stamp thing is so awesome for miiverse. loving it.

    i´m a huge fan of yoshis new island. so looking forward to it. it looks fantastic.

    always had a soft spot for kirby. the 3ds footage looks like it´ll make me smile all the way through. day one.

    and so on….

    playing a link between worlds right now, which is easily the best game i´ve played this year. i also play mario 3d world atm coop with my girlfriend. what can i say. it´s fantastic.

    i bought a ps4. i like it but i experience tons of crashes on bf4 (a bugfest), the controllers r1 button was broken. yesterday i had fun online coop with a friend with resogun, then we had trouble with the voicechat. i then downloaded warframe and had to wait for ages for it to download.

    i love gaming with nintendo. some obviously don´t. like i said. for me, they definitely deliver atm, much more so than at the wii and ds times, probably even gamecube. i truly love the direction they have been taken.

    #36 4 months ago
  37. Fin

    @36

    Try Rayman Origins/Legends, they’re the best 2d platformers I’ve ever played (Origins probably shades it overall).
    They’re what a rebooted Sonic should’ve become, tbh.

    #37 4 months ago
  38. Legendaryboss

    @30
    Nintendroid forbidding it simply because he can’t handle criticism someone directed to Ninty, colour me surprised.

    #38 4 months ago
  39. polygem

    @29: i so disagree about rayman too. as a platformer it´s average at best :)

    #39 4 months ago
  40. naffgeek

    Here we go again with people slagging Nintendo for no creativity!!

    For years Nintendo aim their creativity inside their big franchises, the 2d wall painting move in the new 3Ds zelda is the most creative idea I have seen in years (outside of Indies) and it is used brilliantly.

    Personally I will take the WiiU over the PS4/XboxOne for the next few years at least.

    TitanFall/Destiny/Crew etc.. are creatively moribund from what I have seen but I am happy to be proved wrong when they come out.

    #40 4 months ago
  41. CyberMarco

    @36

    “i like it but i experience tons of crashes on bf4 (a bugfest), the controllers r1 button was broken. yesterday i had fun online coop with a friend with resogun, then we had trouble with the voicechat. i then downloaded warframe and had to wait for ages for it to download.”

    IIRC when the WiiU launched it had similar problems, with day1 bricking-console firmwares and stuff like that, things that are common for new consoles.

    I’m sure everyone knew that there were bound to be problems with the PS4/XB1 consoles too.

    #41 4 months ago
  42. The_Red

    @Ireland Michael
    Why? Why did you have to mention Other M!? WHHHYYYYY!?

    Seriously though, I hate most Warriors games but even they can’t fuck Zelda up that bad, can they!?

    #42 4 months ago
  43. Joe Musashi

    Dave Cook posting another Nintendo hate click-bait story. The hating hater.

    JM

    #43 4 months ago
  44. Ireland Michael

    @40 “For years Nintendo aim their creativity inside their big franchises, the 2d wall painting move in the new 3Ds zelda is the most creative idea I have seen in years (outside of Indies) and it is used brilliantly.”

    Which is exactly the problem, as I said in my above post. These games don’t seem to possess ant lack any of the creativity they are known for. They’re retreading old ground to the point of redundancy.

    A Link Between Worlds is very much the exception, not the rule.

    @42 By the locks of that trailer… probably.

    @43 What? Absolutely nobody said anything of the sort.

    #44 4 months ago
  45. Francis O

    I’m sorry FIN

    I can’t take you seriously when you said “Knack outsold Super Mario 3D World”

    What a load of bullshit

    Super Mario 3D World is nearing 1 million units sold

    Knack is NOWHERE near that.

    #45 4 months ago
  46. CyberMarco

    @Francis

    You should check your facts more carefully!

    clicky!

    #46 4 months ago
  47. polygem

    @41: sure, sure but i enjoy the wiiu more than the ps3 too :)

    but all i am trying to say is that i can´t accept the: they have uncreative same same games argument. everyone´s allowed to say that of course. i only disagree. because: i just experience a totally different nintendo than that. i see crazy creativity in almost every game. i agree with #40. but not only the new zelda, mario 3dworld and mario luigi dream team are packed with creative ideas. luigis mansions mp mode is awesome too. all that stuff and more. it´s just not true that they do not innovate. they do so but within their existing ip´s since like forever. why do people still not get it?
    they either do not play the games but still feel like they can judge them, or they just don´t enjoy the nintendo style games but then, they could just move on and do not spoil the fun for everyone else.

    #47 4 months ago
  48. Fin

    @45

    Let me just quote what you said there

    “I’m sorry FIN

    I can’t take you seriously when you said “Knack outsold Super Mario 3D World”

    What a load of bullshit

    Super Mario 3D World is nearing 1 million units sold

    Knack is NOWHERE near that.”

    Now we know that you don’t like facts, we can ignore what you say in the future :)

    @46

    ;)

    #48 4 months ago
  49. Francis O

    @47

    Stop trying to explain to these drones how Nintendo makes different gameplay experiences. THEY DONT PLAY Nintendo games. So they won’t know what you’re talking about.

    These people think a new coat of paint with the same shooting gameplay equals innovation and new.

    @48

    Show me the Facts where Super Mario 3D World got outsold by Knack? You’ve got none idiot

    Knack has sold around 300K
    http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/?name=knack

    Super Mario 3D World has sold around 710K
    http://www.vgchartz.com/game/73166/super-mario-3d-world/

    Super Mario 3D World is also the number 1 or 2 game in almost every region for the eShop

    #49 4 months ago
  50. Dirk

    Reports say Knack outsold SM3DW in the UK. That’s 1 country. It’s like claiming the 360 was worthless because it didn’t sell in Japan.

    #50 4 months ago
  51. Fin

    @49

    Dude, which sold more, Knack or SM3DW?

    I can feel a “How many hours did you play Black Ops for?” moment coming on.

    @50

    Well there’s no stats for anywhere else, so just working off what we know for sure.

    #51 4 months ago
  52. manamana

    This lineup must be great for nintendo nerds. I was only keen on MK8 and I must say that, at least from the trailer, I am not convinced. Sonic ASTransformed brought many nice things to the table and I feel like nintendo onlt tries to keep up with it in the HD worlds.

    Oh well, knowing that nintendo delivers quality titles it may be hidden in the details but still.

    And then there is Link Warrior Orochi. What. The. Fuck.

    Okay, after all WiiU might not be my cup of tea. Thing is, I would like to have a reason to buy one but I aint see any. I think the 3DSXL is still the best choice for nintendo games.

    #52 4 months ago
  53. naffgeek

    @44 “Which is exactly the problem, as I said in my above post. These games don’t seem to possess ant lack any of the creativity they are known for. They’re retreading old ground to the point of redundancy.”

    this suggest you haven’t played any of them lately.

    Seriously Super Mario 3D world’s box art is more creative than Killzone or Forza in their entirety.

    #53 4 months ago
  54. Legendaryboss

    I never knew estimates from VGchartz were facts, well only if it suits one’s agenda.

    #54 4 months ago
  55. Fin

    @53

    “Seriously Super Mario 3D world’s box art is more creative than Killzone or Forza in their entirety.”

    Dude, seriously, the EULA for PSN or XLive has more new ideas than all of Nitendo’s 2013 games combined.

    @54

    Not VGChartz. Nobody mentioned that.

    http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-12-02-ps4-fastest-selling-console-in-uk-history

    #55 4 months ago
  56. CyberMarco

    @47

    “all i am trying to say is that i can´t accept the: they have uncreative same same games argument. everyone´s allowed to say that of course.”

    Yup, each to their own I guess.

    I’m not saying that Nintendo has bad games, but for me they fill the same-y. I wouldn’t mind getting a Wii U, it has some nice if not the best couch co-op games in general, but I don’t have much time to dedicate on gaming, since my PC and PS3 are filling the gap. Still want to play some DS games that I missed and I’m interested to buy a 3DS if possible.

    I’ve already “invested” too much on my PC (thanks Steam) and PS3 (PS+ is great) to be able to get another system.

    #56 4 months ago
  57. naffgeek

    @55 haha you’re funny

    #57 4 months ago
  58. Fin

    @57

    Thanks :)

    #58 4 months ago
  59. polygem

    @56: 3ds would be a great choice, especially if you´ve mised out on some ds games. if i had to choose one gaming system, even with next gen included, i would, without a doubt, choose a 3dsxl.

    i do not have that much time to play games anymore either and that being said, i feel more and more at home on nintendo systems anyway.

    the more i think of it the wiiu is actually pretty great for a more busy and / or casual type of gamer. i guess that´s what they´ve had in mind with it. some cod and watchdogs and some family mario plus some single player zelda stuff.

    i now have the ps4 and i will keep it but i shift more and more away from these so called ´hardcore´consoles. they feel unattractive and boring to me.

    next next gen will probably be pc and nintendo for me.

    #59 4 months ago
  60. Ireland Michael

    @53 I never said Killzone or Forza were creative. I’m not touching either of the new consoles for at least another year because they lack worthwhile titles for me so far.

    This isn’t about Sony or Microsoft. This is about Nintendo.

    I’m judging the Wii U entirely by the standards of itself, and as someone who has supported every generation of Nintendo hardware since the SNES, their current output simply isn’t doing it for me. They’ve lost their creative touch.

    It used to be that every new game within a franchise, would always bring its own truly unique mechanics that genuinely mixed things up and made each new game feel completely fresh. These games don’t even have that. A Link Between Worlds is the the one major exception.

    The handheld output has been fairly solid, no denying that. The Wii U is where the real problems are.

    I don’t know what the hell is going on at Nintendo, but they’ve completely lost their spine,

    #60 4 months ago
  61. Francis O

    Polygem, seriously….don’t waste your time. These drones only know how to race a car or shoot a gun in a game.

    #61 4 months ago
  62. Ireland Michael

    @61 Kindly get over yourself.

    #62 4 months ago
  63. CyberMarco

    Did anyone fart?

    #63 4 months ago
  64. Francis O

    VGChartz is more reliable then taking Fin’s word for it.

    All he said was Knack Outsold Super Mario 3D World…..and providing no proof. Not only that, its just not true.

    We all know Super Mario 3D World has sold far more than Knack.

    But leave it to you drones to think otherwise.

    The UK is a tiny market, worldwide, Super Mario 3D World is crushing Knack, this is fact.

    #64 4 months ago
  65. monkeygourmet

    We get it, no one wants the Wii U…

    “Meh meh, but I want Nintendo to change, make new games, meh meh…”

    “Meh Nintendo release games on IOS, meh meh…”

    “Nostalgia meh…”

    “Innovation meh…”

    Let’s cut the shit and just go back to playing Ryse, Knack and I’ll go back to playing Nostalgia 8Bit score attack challenge that I’ve just downloaded.

    @60

    You do know that Nintendo as a whole is the 3DS and the Wii U?

    #65 4 months ago
  66. manamana

    • Mario Kart 8: New playable characters include Rosalina and various “Baby” Nintendo characters, like Baby Mario and Baby Luigi. New course settings include an airport, the desert and high in the clouds, and vehicles include UFOs, four-wheel ATV buggies, standard karts and bikes.

    I mean, am I really the only disappointed gamer?

    #66 4 months ago
  67. Dragon

    @63,
    Let me fart.

    @66,
    “I mean, am I really the only disappointed gamer?”
    Nope. Read the comments. Except broken records, almost everyone is disappointed.

    #67 4 months ago
  68. manamana

    Are farts F2P?

    #68 4 months ago
  69. Armitage Shanks

    Hyrule Warriors (not final title) looks awesome.

    #69 4 months ago
  70. Obernox

    What the fuck is this? come on Nintendo, stop these disappointments.

    #70 4 months ago
  71. Dragon

    @68,
    Farts? Yes. However there is a “nostalgic farting” DLC that lets download farts in glorious 8-bit and 16-bit versions.

    Nostalgia sells. People pay for getting that perfect fart developed over 30 years. The smell of nostalgia as they say.

    I hear Tecmo Koei is developing 2 sequels to Dynasty Warriors named Dynasty Farts and Farting Warriors, both exclusive to a pseudo next gen console.

    #71 4 months ago
  72. Phoenixblight

    Wow that “Zelda” game looks absolutely horrible. I have played every single Zelda game minus the 3DS to date and I have played enough dynasty warriors to know these two games shouldn’t be combined. This is far worse than Other M and seems desperate as if they can’t get a Zelda out for next year or two and just getting a title out the door for the WIi U.

    Disappointed with Nintendo. Thanks Nintendo for confirming I don’t need a Wii any time soon.

    #72 4 months ago
  73. monkeygourmet

    @66

    As long as you judge other games on the same criteria, your fine.

    For example Halo: same guns (maybe 2 new ones and a new vehicle), new story, but same enemies (maybe 2 new ones), etc…

    New IPs obviously get a reprieve, unless all they bring to the table is new characters rather than gameplay.

    Games tend to be held in high regard unless they are ‘toppled’. Sonic Transformed Racing and Rayman for example, have come closest to ‘toppling’ Nintendo franchises off their respective ‘throne’s’. That’s after many, many years at the top though.

    Suddenly, Nintendo has lost it and are is news, apparently. That’s pretty fickle if you ask me.

    #73 4 months ago
  74. monkeygourmet

    @72

    I agree, Dynasty Warriors / Zelda doesn’t look great. But, then, I hate Dynasty Warriors yet people still swear by it.

    I guess they have only done this as it’s a popular cross over?

    #74 4 months ago
  75. monkeygourmet

    @Dragon

    “Nostalgia sells. People pay for getting that perfect fart developed over 30 years. The smell of nostalgia as they say.”

    And:

    “Finally! My Vita needs some JRPG love” (on FF10 HD remaster)
    “Vita being dead wont stop me from enjoying it”

    Hmmm… Why not apply the same thoughts here… Hmmmm…

    So confusing…

    Anyway, keep relishing! :)

    #75 4 months ago
  76. Joe Musashi

    Whilst it’s good to see announcement for Wii U, watching Nintendo rely so heavily on the same crutches is becoming weary. Add to that the increasing dilution of its signature brands it leaves a somewhat bitter taste in the mouth.

    Yet again, Nintendo are preaching to the converted (rather than addressing the elephant in their conference room) who will valiantly echo and bang the drum of whatever their favoured brand does whilst concocting hypocriful theories that don’t really stand up to objective scrutiny.

    It’s also a great shame that the praise calling out the wall-travelling mechanic in the 3DS Zelda game isn’t even a new idea. It’s from a game 3 years old that surfaced on a shhh.. better not mention the name..er.. another console and also on PC.

    This series of announcements from Nintendo, held up against the PR of boastful-but-hard-to-dispute “We are more committed to new IP than our competitors” article from earlier today show a stark contrast.

    Times have changed. The industry is constantly evolving. Adapt or die.

    JM

    #76 4 months ago
  77. Fin

    @64

    I’m prettty sure I provided a Eurogamer link, did you miss that?

    Or are you just in denial about what the Eurogamer link says?

    Here it is again in case:
    http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-12-02-ps4-fastest-selling-console-in-uk-history

    And here’s a quote, in case you don’t click through.
    “PS4 exclusive Knack debuts at 13 ahead of Super Mario 3D World on Wii U at 14. Yes, Knack sold more than Mario.”

    Now, if I say “which sold more, Knack or Super Mario 3D World”, what’s the answer? I’ll even preface in with “in countries where both games are released, and there are sales figures for”.

    Unless you’ve got a better source? If so, please do enlighten us all.

    ;)

    #77 4 months ago
  78. manamana

    @71 :-D
    @73 i dn’t think it makes much sense to compare different genres but okay.

    Now I love Mario Kart, but I wouldn’t buy a new console just for this game. Who knows, a year down the road and MonolithSoftware has something that catches my attention. Since then, I have several Mario Karts at my disposal, with MKWii as the #1 reason I kept my Wii (besides Xenoblade Chronicles)

    Edit: I edited the Halo part out, as I missunderstood monkey…

    #78 4 months ago
  79. polygem

    yay! i just ordered one of those numbered, limited edition, luigis mansion 2 figurines. i registered tons of codes the last 30 minutes. i then had 7050 stars and only one code left…it was close but i made it.

    #79 4 months ago
  80. polygem

    i loved this n direct. downloading nes remix now. if you can’t count on the next gen you can still rely on nintendo. isn’t that great…

    #80 4 months ago
  81. game_on

    Even though vgchartz is not a reliable source, it’s pretty obvious that SM3DW outsold Knack. Besides that, SM3DW is the kind of game that will still sell many copies even when the game is years old (like all other Mario titles do). Knack only sold a reasonable amount of copies because of it being a launch game for a new console. That and the fact that most other launch games for the PS4 are complete garbage.

    #81 4 months ago
  82. monkeygourmet

    @Poly

    I’m just about to boot it up!

    Score attack, old skool style?! :)

    #82 4 months ago
  83. Gekidami

    “it’s pretty obvious that SM3DW outsold Knack”
    Based off…?

    #83 4 months ago
  84. game_on

    @83
    First: common sense.
    After that: vgchartz.

    #84 4 months ago
  85. monkeygourmet

    Haha! NES Remix is genius, Miiverse is hilarious right now! :D

    #85 4 months ago
  86. monkeygourmet

    The VG247 Donkey Kong score attack challenge is holding me in good stead! Lots of 3 star ratings!

    I wish more than 1 person had a Wii U to compete against!

    #86 4 months ago
  87. polygem

    @mg: a friend just got his ps4 finally yesterday so i ended up playing bf4…will download it now :) but play it tomorrow…

    #87 4 months ago
  88. monkeygourmet

    @87

    Just gives me more time to practice! :)

    I bet you end up playing a few rounds tonight though, it’s very more-ish (just like heroin!)

    #88 4 months ago
  89. polygem

    yeah i will at least check it out. downloading now :)

    #89 4 months ago
  90. Telepathic.Geometry

    Pretty disappointing Nintendo Direct for me. That new Zelda spin off is going to appeal to Dynasty Warriors fans, or fans of Musou style games in general, but to me it looks like shit.

    I’m looking forward to Tropical Freeze, but I already knew about that. The Mariokart and Smash Games will basically just be more of the same games that we already own. I don’t feel like there’s anything new here. I was hoping against hope that we’d get a Metroid announce or something.

    The Luigi game looks like fun, but in a world where you can get iPhone games just like it for buttons, the price feels very steep. I dunno… /sad-face

    #90 4 months ago
  91. monkeygourmet

    @90

    Have you tried NES remix? It’s very fun.

    I wouldn’t be to upset as no single system contains all of life’s wonders. :)

    #91 4 months ago
  92. Telepathic.Geometry

    I’m not interested in paying for or playing throwaway 8-bit NES game remixes on my new HD capable Wii U. And if Nintendo expects this and a reskin of a Warriors game to keep fans happy, I think they need to step up their game.

    I still have Wonderful 101, and Pikmin 3 to clear, and I reckon Nintendoland and Zombie U will keep me going until Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze lands. But after I finish all of that by say March or April, what will there be? I’m not at all interested in Smash, so the best I can hope for is that Mariokart 8 is decent, that there’s a Metroid game coming in under the radar, and maybe that that mech game pans out.

    But honestly, I think I’ll be looking at a game every three months for my Wii U at the absolute best. And there’s no technical reason why I couldn’t be playing most if not all of them on a PS4 or an xbone. None of them make significant if any use of the expensive controller.

    Don’t get me wrong monkey, I love Nintendo games, and I take no joy in spouting all of this negativity, but for the first time in Nintendo’s history, I regret having bought their machine. For the first time ever, I actually think that there is a good argument to be made for Ninty going hardware agnostic. Maybe build their own proprietary controller and release it and their games on PS5 or something…

    #92 4 months ago
  93. Phoenixblight

    @92

    There is no metroid game being made right now and if there is its just in pre-production. Retro just completed DK: TF this month and haven’t started their next project whether that is Metroid or another game it is unknown. So at best all you are waiting for is Mario Kart.

    #93 4 months ago
  94. monkeygourmet

    @92

    It’s a fair point, one which I don’t share however.

    I’m not saying NES remix should be a triple A experience (nor is Nintendo for that matter.), it’s just fun and good value, plain and simple.

    We may have different financial incomes, but I haven’t got a problem with 1 exclusive a month on Wii U. That’s more than enough in my book, especially as they tend to be high quality. If I feel like splashing out, there are plenty of other games available, but I’d be lying if I said I wouldn’t miss Nintendo’s output.

    Maybe you should sell the Wii U and invest in a PS4 if you haven’t got one? (I still think PS4 looks to be pretty future proof at the moment).

    #94 4 months ago
  95. monkeygourmet

    @93

    Are you saying only one game will release this coming year?

    I know Nintendo fans will have slim (but quality) pickings, but do you actually have access to the Xbone / PS4 release schedule? How’s that looking?

    Obviously third party will pad it out, but there isn’t anything that concrete yet, hence why I’m waiting.

    #95 4 months ago
  96. Phoenixblight

    @95

    No I wasn’t saying that I assume all these games announced today were coming out 2014(?) I was going off what TG was saying with not wanting Smash or Warriors reskin.

    As far as PS4 schedule goes:

    http://www.ign.com/games/upcoming/ps4

    Thats most of them some of them don’t have dates and I am not sure are coming in 2014 like the Division but majority are there. Plus there are few missing like Uncharted.

    #96 4 months ago
  97. monkeygourmet

    @96

    That’s fair enough.

    Nice list, but apart from:

    The Order (I’ll get my PS4 when this comes out)
    Drive Club
    Infamous
    And maybe Indie stuff?

    A lot of it is available elsewhere. I’m not saying its terrible btw, just that the first year will be very much a time for MS & Sony to let their consoles ‘find their feet’. Wii U did that too, just forgot to get up! ;)

    Unless Sony & MS have lots more stuff releasing in 2014 (I’m sure there is some), Nintendo should just about manage an exclusive once a month or so. Obviously they are missing out on third party (that will not change in 2014), but like always, they hold their own based on quality. That doesn’t translate to sales though, as you can see in Mario 3D World vs Knack.

    I’ve been here in this situation (people angry / complaining / insert other emotion here) regarding Nintendo since they lost Final Fantasy 7 to Sony in the N64 days. While things aren’t rosy for the Wii U, no amount of bitching will remove the fact it’s nailing it with quality titles.

    #97 4 months ago
  98. Phoenixblight

    @97

    Not sure where you are getting an exclusive a month, link(?), SO far all we know about 2014 is Smash, Hyrule Warriors, Mario Kart and DK: Tropical Freeze. THere is no way they will have 12 exclusives out next year.

    #98 4 months ago
  99. Telepathic.Geometry

    @monkey: I have no financial problems at all, so that’s not it. It’s really just down to time, and the best possible use of that gaming time.

    Next year, I will most likely buckle like a little bitch and buy a PS4 at launch, and play Infamous: Second Son, Thief, RESOGUN, The Witness, Contrast and Watchdogs plus whatever other gems drop that I haven’t been able to play yet (e.g. Fez, Bastion). Also, on the PS3, I’ll be playing R&C: Nexus, Dark Souls II, Castlevania 2 and polishing off my extensive PS3 game collection.

    So what it is is, I want Ninty to poach me off of that system with new games. But if you look at some of the names of the games I just mentioned, most of them are not available on Wii U, and even if they are, they are pretty inferior on the Wii U. I have heard that Rayman Legends is best on Wii U, so that’s where I’ll play it, but that’s unfortunately a rare exception.

    Can you imagine that I will be persuaded to stop playing on my PS3 by a NES remix? Or by a (I’m sorry, but) shitty looking musou game with a link skin? Come on.

    THE POINT: My point here really is that now that Ninty have lost 3rd party support more completely than ever before, they need to step their game way the fuck up. WAY WAY WAY the fuck up. This is not sufficient. I am worried about the future of that company, because if Ninty were to decline and one day disappear from the gaming world like Sega more or less has, that would be an absolute tragedy. :(

    #99 4 months ago
  100. polygem

    i’m not expecting a mario game from ms. or a halo from sony. maybe people are expecting a gears and an uncharted and then some from nintendo. they do what they do and they are releasing fantastic stuff atm. i don’t want that to change. i’m buying nintendo games all the time for 3ds and/or wiiu. i couldn’t play more. it’s exactly what i want from them. i just don’t understand what’s not to like about this n direct. i will have to buy every single game they’ve shown there. i mean, i also just bought a ps4…gimme a break :)

    #100 4 months ago
  101. Telepathic.Geometry

    Hey, that’s cool man. If all of those games float your boat, then that’s gravy, and I’m happy for you. And for those of you who can subsist on a diet of Wii U alone, more power to you. I don’t want to give the impression that I just wanna hate on Nintendo.

    I only hate the corporate structure at Nintendo, I absolutely love the devs.

    #101 4 months ago
  102. monkeygourmet

    @98

    That’s why I was careful By saying:

    “Nintendo should just about manage an exclusive once a month or so”

    Notice; ‘should’, ‘just about’ and ‘or so’… ;)

    @99

    It’s just weird people seem to talk about Nintendo in a critical light, then mention loads of other console possibilities. No one is saying you have to just have one (or even 2!)…

    You haven’t mentioned Xbox? Is that at the bottom of your pile? PC? It sounds like you want to justify a 1 system scenario and are basing your choices on that?

    Edit:

    Also, I meant the opposite RE finances. One game a month is pretty extravagant for some people.

    @101

    Poly already said he doesn’t just own a a Wii U. :)

    (I’m also not keen on the Zelda game btw!)

    #102 4 months ago
  103. monkeygourmet

    Another +100 Nintendo article! O_o

    #103 4 months ago
  104. Phoenixblight

    @102

    WIth the lack of third party, Nintendo has put themself in a horrible spot. They have to either find a way to produce enough games to stay relevant or find a way to make 3rd party devs think they are still relevant and develop for their system. They have to, not every single person that buys a Nintendo Console will get Smash, Mario Kart, or Zelda nor are they going to wait a year or two hoping announcement on their favorite IPs that is why I sold my Wii. It was collecting dust for 7 months with no titles that interest me in sight. Their current model is not working.

    This Zelda announcement is a huge turn off for me. It is the first time ever where I wasn’t interested in a Zelda game.

    #104 4 months ago
  105. monkeygourmet

    @104

    Let’s get down to brass tacks though, you do enjoy Sony consoles / titles. :)

    There is a fantastic Zelda game out right now, if you are really interested. Also, even lacking third party stuff, Wii U has some pretty amazing titles, many scoring the highest in recent times coupled with new IPs and variety.

    I think you are just VERY happy with Sony and what you can get on that system (PS3/4/Vita), and there is no shame in that.

    #105 4 months ago
  106. Phoenixblight

    @105

    Well duh but that doesn’t mean anything. I am not a fanboy I also play on the PC and one point I had a PS2 and Gamecube and I enjoyed playing on both systems. I would like to get back in that age where I have a Nintendo system and a Sony system but their titles alone are not interesting to me. SO far all I care for is DK: Tropical Freeze and possibly Mario 3D World nothing more than that. And its not a matter of wanting mature titles as I just played for the last 3 weeks Ratchet and Clank HD, Future series and Into the Nexus. I will not buy a 300$ device for a handful of games its Nintendo’s job to make themself relevant to me and they failed to do so for 2 generations now.

    #106 4 months ago
  107. monkeygourmet

    @106

    That’s cool. But, I presume you at least played certain titles?

    If you are involved in games or art, you would look like a bit of an idiot if you bypassed Nintendo titles because of personal opinion.

    Even as a curio, Mario Galaxy is widely regarded as the best game from ‘last gen’. From an artistic perspective (using a weaker systems strengths), to a gameplay perspective, you’ll be hard pushed to find better.

    A lot of people ask a lot of a Nintendo, yet they didn’t actually buy any of their consoles or games. Gamecube flopped because of this, even though it had many hardcore and fan service games.

    It gets to the point where you have to ask: What do you want?! :)

    Not directed at you personally, but:

    Did you buy:

    1080 GameCube
    F Zero Game Cube
    Chibi Robo
    Star Fox GaMe Cube
    Endless Ocean
    No more Heroes
    Muramasa
    Zack and Wiki
    Xenoblade
    Eternal Darkness
    Resi 4
    P 100
    Fatal Frame

    Etc, etc…

    Nintendo HAVE released these titles and new IPs before (and continue to do so) people don’t want them, then want them years later and say how good the previous Nintendo console was… Been here many times before…

    N64 – Doomed
    DS – Doomed
    GameCube – Doomed
    Wii – Doomed
    3DS – Doomed
    Wii U – Doomed

    Hmmmmm… Is there a pattern here?!

    But, of course a Wii U is different to all of those, it’s a different time. Like how it was a different time for all those previous Nintendo consoles…

    #107 4 months ago
  108. Telepathic.Geometry

    @Monkey: Yeah, xbone would be at the very bottom of the list for me. I’m not interested in competitive multiplayer, ‘hardcore’ shooters, sports/driving simulation games so, there’s not an awful lot on xbone that I would be interested in at all, or that I couldn’t get elsewhere.

    I’m also not interested much in a PC, but that’s really just down to the cost and the hassle. Especially in Japan, putting together a PC is expensive and no walk in the park. That’ll change when the Steambox appears though. :)

    And for the record, the way I view the Wii U is as a 2nd machine, and even in that capacity it’s not doing well enough. My reasons are not that there aren’t enough games though. My reasons are that there aren’t enough unique games. Even on the gamecube or on the Wii, there weren’t too many games, but all of those games were experiences games I couldn’t play anywhere else, so even if over its lifetime I only got a couple dozen games, they were all gold-dust to me.

    #108 4 months ago
  109. Dragon

    Nice, this has finally turned into “Wii U is not doomed, stop saying it” thread, obviously ignoring reality helps.
    “N64 – Doomed
    DS – Doomed
    GameCube – Doomed
    Wii – Doomed
    3DS – Doomed
    Wii U – Doomed”
    Care to also add in the fact that Wii U is selling less than every other console on that list?

    @75,
    You quoted a very succinct point.
    “Vita being dead wont stop me from enjoying it”
    Can you say the same for your Wii U (which sells less than Vita for most part of the year), or not?

    “Another +100 Nintendo article! O_o”
    Says the guy who commented 16 times in last 60 comments.

    #109 4 months ago
  110. monkeygourmet

    @108

    But… You… Haven’t… Even… Finished……

    ….all your games…. Or… Even… Started Zombi U?!

    :)

    I think you just need to chill a bit, don’t think it’s going to be the best thing ever, just enjoy what’s there. Not saying you have to, but it doesn’t look like you’ve used a Miiverse at all? Give it a try, it’s fun! ;) follow people to get updates and generally give all the features a go. Couch multiplayer? Have you tried that? It’s a huuuuge part of the console and it’s games.

    Single player? Def give Zombi U a go. If not, There’s always the PS4, but that’s a given, it’s not going anywhere.

    #110 4 months ago
  111. monkeygourmet

    @109

    “Can you say the same for your Wii U?”

    Yes, hence why I’ve been recommending a PS4 as an alternative for many posts… Wii U is obviously ‘dead’, still, weirdly, that doesn’t stop it having the highest rated game this Christmas… Or the fact it has many good games, same as a Vita.

    Your bullshit sales rhetoric means you’ve happily thrown the ‘Vita’ on the pile, just to attack the Wii U. Both systems are still ‘alive’ and have many amazing games coming for them. But, of course, Tearaway is shit because it bombed… Derp derp…

    I have a PC that makes next gen look like shit, Vita, PS3, 360, 3DS… I’m fine thanks. Enjoy waiting for Persona 5.

    I think the sooner you just admit you get a bit sweaty down below at the thought of a Nintendo ‘going under’, the better.

    Ironically, I’m getting a few games this Christmas and most of them are on PS3, supporting niche developers. I’m such a fanboy! :)

    “Says the guy who commented 16 times in last 60 comments.”

    Thanks for counting! (Wtf?!)

    #111 4 months ago
  112. Telepathic.Geometry

    I think that Nintendo’s problems are as follows:

    1. Because their hardware is not as powerful as PS4 and xbone, and because they lack their online, social and multi-media features, even if a game is ported to Wii U, it will be markedly inferior (as a general rule, I believe Rayman Legends is best on Wii U).
    2. The gamble on the screen controller failed. Most games don’t use it at all, and the remaining games that do, use it very sparingly, as a gimmick. (I use the word “gimmick” measuredly). The result is, the console cost goes up, the controller size and weight goes up, the battery life goes down and there is comparatively little gain on the gaming side.
    3. 3rd party support has disappeared in a way we have never seen before. This puts more pressure on Nintendo themselves. They are one of the best devs on the planet, but they simply cannot support a console all by themselves.

    I guess that Chris Kohler over on Wired hit the nail on the head. Down the line, they will probably make the tablet controller optional. It’s not unthinkable, considering they made the 2DS…

    #112 4 months ago
  113. Dragon

    Beautiful, keep dodging, keep defending ninty. How about a to-the-point response to-
    “Care to also add in the fact that Wii U is selling less than every other console on that list?”
    ““Another +100 Nintendo article! O_o”
    Says the guy who commented 16 times in last 60 comments.” (nice stealth edit)

    Not that I expect anything better from someone who was banned like TEA, Shatner and DaMan.

    “I’m such a fanboy!”
    We agree on something then. Good to know.

    #113 4 months ago
  114. monkeygourmet

    @112

    I’ll try and answer these with my limited knowledge! ;)

    1. If Nintendo are struggling with basic HD titles on Wii U, don’t you think a more powerful system may have been misjudged? (At this time)

    2. I would argue Miiverse is amazing, yet under promoted. It’s a killer app that’s drifted.

    3. Agree.

    Summary, but what about Miiverse and all that amazing community and artwork? I can’t believe you’ve not even had an opinion on it yet? Have you used it?

    #114 4 months ago
  115. Telepathic.Geometry

    And just to show that it’s not only Ninty, allow me to list xbone’s problems:

    1. A lot of people don’t want a Kinect for various reasons, and especially they don’t want to pay for one.
    2. It seems like it is still a home for 720p games at 30 FPS. That may be unfair, but it nonetheless rings true. 3. The competition with PS4 will be fierce. For the most part, the PS4 games will look that little bit sharper, and the 1st party PS4 titles are likely to be jaw-droppingly gorgeous by comparison. That’s on a system half the size, $100 cheaper, and with no power-brick.
    4. The company’s PR is terrible. Many people probably still believe that they can’t sell their xbone games. They need someone like Shuhei Yoshida to be a front man for the company.
    5. The xbone’s voice recognition and TV services will probably never work as intended for a lot of people with regional accents or uncommon TV networks, etc.
    6. The xbone will never make it in Japan.

    Yeah, I like lists.

    #115 4 months ago
  116. monkeygourmet

    @113

    You love Shatner though..?!

    Remember…:

    +1 Joe Musashi (because he’s ‘telling off ‘ Poly)

    Ring any bells? Your so transparent I can see your heart beat like a new born fish…

    Get your story straight Dragon. Your not making any sense… (Well, actually your talking shit agaIn which is about par for the course.)

    #116 4 months ago
  117. Telepathic.Geometry

    @Monkey: I’m sure Miiverse is great, and I have heard that sort of thing from various sources, but it’s not for me. I get home, do a bit of study, eat something, exercise, tidy the gaff, and get in some gaming before bed. So, rather than networking, I’m out cleaning up New Marais, or collecting juice, or green stars, or cursing at Sound Shapes.

    That’s just me though. I’m not much of a social gamer in that way I guess.

    Also, maybe Dragon and monkey shouldn’t argue, it seems like one or both of you won’t be able to keep it civil. No need for any bullshite in here, especially so close to Christmas!

    #117 4 months ago
  118. Telepathic.Geometry

    Oh, by the way, I have seen the miiverse art, and yes. It’s fucking bonkers.

    #118 4 months ago
  119. Phoenixblight

    “Nintendo HAVE released these titles and new IPs before (and continue to do so) people don’t want them, then want them years later and say how good the previous Nintendo console was… Been here many times before…”

    I have played all the Gamecube games listed and some on the PS2 as well.

    Again its Nintendo’s fault but this is not Gamecube days as now we can just roll up on the internet and watch gameplay videos to see what the game is about and see if it will be fun for us. As I have watched most videos related to the Wii and Wii U I can confidently say it doesn’t make me want the system now. There is no killer app for me that is pulling me in. Zelda usually does but after Skyward Sword I want them to try new things especially with that controller.

    #119 4 months ago
  120. Telepathic.Geometry

    @PB: What did you think of Skyward Sword by the way? I’m playing through it now, (I’m in the 3rd area, with the little robot dudes) and it’s kinda stifling for me. I absolutely loved the shit out of Twilight Princess for reference…

    #120 4 months ago
  121. Dragon

    “both of you won’t be able to keep it civil.”
    You know, maybe you should an instance of me not being “civil”. I would definitely like to know and improve.

    #121 4 months ago
  122. Phoenixblight

    @120

    Its trying to incorporate the good aspects of Ocarina of Time and Wind Waker but plays it too safe. The temples were pretty easy and all the bosses except for one of them was pretty forgettable. I also didn’t like the inconsistency of gameplay where it holds your hand in some sections and others you are thrown to the wolves not to mention how annoying Fi was worse than Naavi in OoT.

    http://dare2play.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/final.jpg

    #122 4 months ago
  123. Telepathic.Geometry

    @121: Like I can be fucking arsed. You contribute a lot to this site in general, but you are deliberately antagonistic at times, and I think you choose your words with that intent. Whatever, it’s the internet and being a cunt is the norm I guess, so it’s not like I’m giving you shit.

    But I do wish a contributing member of the forum would make a bit more of an effort to discuss things, instead of using language you know will get a negative reaction. It’s not all your fault either, flame bait is harmless if the other person doesn’t get sucked in. Still though…

    I don’t see any reason why we can all discuss, and disagree with each other without it being necessary to make the other side either agree, or admit shit you want them to admit. I’ve buried all of my flame-war weapons with years now.

    #123 4 months ago
  124. Telepathic.Geometry

    @122: Yeah, I’m playing it in Japanese, so I do appreciate some of the vocabulary I’m getting out of her, but I swear to God she tells me everything. I’m pretty down on the graphic style actually. I don’t think it can hold a candle to Twilight Princess in that regard. I thought I’d get into it but… I also miss just being able to travel wherever the fuck I want in a big open world.

    But it’s alright. I’m just finding it hard to motivate myself to get through it. I got as far as my Bird Test the first time over a year or more ago, and I quit again recently in the third big temple (Time?), but I’m sure I’ll pick it up again soon enough…

    #124 4 months ago
  125. Legendaryboss

    @TG
    Your the Wonderful 101!

    I wasn’t expecting this but as for Dragon calling PS Vita dead well no one cared about that besides to link it here to suit one’s agenda.

    Very certain if it was Wii U in that scenario there would be a shitstorm.

    #125 4 months ago
  126. polygem

    the wiiu is powerful enough. the new mario looks better than bf4 and killzone when it comes to artdesign and playbility. b4 is not impressing me at all. it’s just a bugfest in a high res and with good textures. shit trade off because it lacks in so many other departments technically. halo reach looks still more sexy to me, even ghosts, they run better too.

    as the last gen faded, the games became less and less interesting and/or disappointing to me, the wiiu, vita and 3ds kept me alive gamingwise and i owned all the other consoles too. now that the ps4 is here and has it’s launch/ games drought (i’m not complaining. it’s always like that), it’s still these 3 machines that are the most relevant to me. the wiiu is powerful enough and it’s perfectly timed if you own other consoles too. nintendo couldn’t attract the casual market this time and the more hardcore gamers (at least those who only own one platform) want more third party support on their console of choice. that’s why the wiiu doesn’t sell well. it just didn’t do the casual market trick. for me, as a gamer who doesn’t only own one console, the wiiu still is a fantastic machine. in fact it’s, like i said, one of my most played systems and looking at miiverse, the e-shop with it’s holiday themed layout and tunes atm, the n-direct implementation in the shop, these little things just feel so fresh, the nes remix game available just after the announcement – this is cool stuff, i think you can call that next gen too. it’s definitely not happening on my other machines. then the touchpad in general, the multitasking and games like mario and pikmin, yes even windwaker plus touchpad…if you then compare all this to the ps4 and it’s bland features…then fkuc me but the wiiu feels next gen to me. that might change in the next few years with the ps4 picking up steam but for now, nope, next gen isn’t as impressive as some people believe. also keep in mind that the wiiu probably wont be around for 10 years before a next nintendo device will release, maybe 5 years overall.

    i hope nintendos next thing will be an affordable nintendobox that doesn’t need to rely on third party support to survive. i am sick of people demanding stuff from nintendo that they’ve never been about. so very very very sick of that. i want them to be nintendo and to be as good at that as possible. that’s definitely the case atm. i enjoy nintendo so much more again. wiiu and 3ds are a huge step up from wii and ds and it looks like things are only getting better from here.
    i don’t worry about nintendo because they deliver awesome stuff atm. game after game after game. to only look at the wiiu sales to judge a companys success is to me, very one-dimensional. there are tons of positive things to see. i paint a bright future for them. they are on the right way.

    #126 4 months ago
  127. Joe Musashi

    Nintendo are absolutely on the right way.

    The question is where.

    JM

    #127 4 months ago
  128. polygem

    the answer is in all my posts above

    #128 4 months ago
  129. Joe Musashi

    Oh dear. Reality suggests something quite different from what you choose to see.

    Ignoring reality works up to a point. Then it has a habit of forcing you to take notice.

    JM

    #129 4 months ago
  130. polygem

    let me sign that for you joe. the moment you will learn to put things in a broader perspective will open a whole new world to you.

    #130 4 months ago
  131. polygem

    what’s your point joe? nintendo is sruggling because of a struggling wiiu? that’s what you are saying? because right now i can’t really hear you under all those smartass oneliners.

    #131 4 months ago
  132. Dragon

    @123,
    Your opinion, but don’t try to blame me if you cant be bothered to bring some proof. I got quoted, and on responding usual bad behaviour suspects started using foul language. Read #125.

    @125,
    “I wasn’t expecting this but as for Dragon calling PS Vita dead well no one cared about that besides to link it here to suit one’s agenda.

    Very certain if it was Wii U in that scenario there would be a shitstorm.”

    That is the gist of it really. But nope, hypocrisy galore.

    #132 4 months ago
  133. polygem

    @132: no it’s because you guys discuss a very different discussion all the time :)
    you keep posting your wiiu is dead stuff but hey, since 4 months or so that’s not even the discussion anymore. not at all but you still just don’t get it, so stuck with your blinders and focussing on this like a dog on a sausage. the wiiu isn’t doing well and noone denies that AT ALL, still you are painting a picture as if anybody does. i for one only try to explain why i believe that a struggling wiiu does not mean that nintendo is struggling as a whole and that i can see a lot of good decissions that they’ve made and also tons of great games. the wiiu might be dead in a near future but it wont be gone tomorrow, not even in 2014…can we discuss games, systems and content again? or are we stuck with lol xyz is dead rofl i told you so discussions here forever?

    #133 4 months ago
  134. Dragon

    ^Hey Telepathic.Geometry, is it flamebait too?

    Also lol, polygem, the one who brought out the “dead” argument is your dear friend mg, care to share same words about him, or does saying anything negative about your beloved friend is off the limits for you.
    Anxiously awaiting your response.

    #134 4 months ago
  135. polygem

    @dragon: see, you’re not about content you are all about xyz lol told you so haha. please understand, you have to grow up. you will, it’s a universal truth.

    #135 4 months ago
  136. Dragon

    ^Avoiding to say anything about who started the “dead” argument? You wrote an entire essay thinking I was the one who did it, so shouldn’t you give the same treatment to your dear friend? Or saying anything negative against him is off your limits? Deflection wont work.

    #136 4 months ago
  137. Joe Musashi

    @131 “because right now i can’t really hear you under all those smartass oneliners.

    Ignorance is bliss.

    JM

    #137 4 months ago
  138. polygem

    fantastic scenario. you just have to love this. dragon and joe trying to make definitions of themselves. well done guys. you obviously do not want to discuss the topic though, you want to piss and shit all over the place again. that’s fine but i don’t wear my rubber boots today.

    #138 4 months ago
  139. Dragon

    ^Ignoring again? How about telling something about your dear friend?

    This thread just exposes your double-standards regarding Ninty and oh my dear friend mg against whom I wont say an alphabet.

    #139 4 months ago
  140. polygem

    @136: one more thing. you do not get the point again. i wasn’t thinking that you have started this argument in this thread but in a million other ones before. your blinders again kid. your blinders, they might look weird but i understand, they can make your whole world look so much easier.

    #140 4 months ago
  141. Dragon

    Oh well, deflection, ignorance and double standards is your forte anyway. Everyone here knows that. This thread just exposes the reality.

    My game just arrived via mail. Perfect timing. Enjoy your delusions.

    #141 4 months ago
  142. polygem

    monkeygourmet? what a douche! this guy is such a wanker. no he’s a cuntface. ugly one. liar too. a twofacedcuntface. doublecunt. i will kill him in a score attack.

    did that make you lol i told you so finally? can you sleep now cute little darling :)

    please don’t forget to bookmark and put out of context later.

    #142 4 months ago
  143. polygem

    you stealth edited there dragon…but well, here you have it.

    #143 4 months ago
  144. Joe Musashi

    The topic has been discussed. But, as always happens, when opinions expressed do not conform to the Nintendo Mafia’s whims, the responses are levelled on an ad-hominem basis.

    There’s only a few hundred topics where this has happened, so I’m sure it’s completely slipped under the radar of those with selective comprehension.

    The real kicker is the plea the sometimes pops up about “it’s just my opinion so you just have to accept it” which is hilarious when voiced by someone who consistently shows utter intolerance of the opinion of others when they don’t align with their own.

    JM

    #144 4 months ago
  145. polygem

    i think it happened the moment you turned up joe…hmmm.

    #145 4 months ago
  146. polygem

    @144: i always respect different opinions. i just think some argumentations are weak. yours for example are often presented in a very colourful coat but when you break it down to the actal content it’s not a very convincing point most of the time. that’s how i feel about your posts at least. but hey, we do not have to agree – but pointing fingers at others calling them intolerant because they are having a different view…is…well..pretty intolerant and also very egocentric :)

    #146 4 months ago
  147. Joe Musashi

    @145 Well, naturally, you would.

    Your ability to see only what it suits you to see is exhaustively demonstrated in this discussion.

    @146 You may say that, but between your spin, deflection, dismissals and excuses you can’t help but prove me right every single time.

    Putting a smiley at the end of your uncivil remarks doesn’t make them civil. Nor does it convince anyone objective of what your persistent ad hominem bleating is trying to achieve.

    The beauty is you simply can’t help yourself.

    Much like Nintendo, the real-world evidence is piling up very high indeed. Pretending it doesn’t exist is just wilful ignorance and pretence.

    JM

    #147 4 months ago
  148. polygem

    ok, then let’s just leave it here because i indeed think that i made my point clear in this thread and that i have nothing to hide. it was a great passionate discussion about games before lb entered to poke and then dragon and you jumped on…like always, yes it’s clear to see for everyone indeed.

    #148 4 months ago
  149. polygem

    :)

    oops forgot…

    i know, you believe initials are the real deal

    :)

    but guess what, i disagree, i like smileys so much more.

    #149 4 months ago
  150. Joe Musashi

    Yes, dicussions involving Nintendo always go well so long as the Nintendo Mafia are hearing what they want to hear.

    JM

    #150 4 months ago
  151. polygem

    3 years or so ago i was done with nintendo, now i love them again, who knows what will be happening 3 years from now. if they fail to deliver stuff that i want from them i will turn my back and leave again…now TRY THAT in the mafia. smiley.

    #151 4 months ago
  152. Legendaryboss

    @Polygem
    Passionate discussion? I guess one can call it that but one can also call it something else. Such as “deflection/ignorance.” I could call it treading the same ground.

    LB entered to poke? How? MG was the one who linked that comment, which as i said he linked it here to suit his agenda. Blame the person who brought it up in the first place. I was just contributing towards it.

    #152 4 months ago
  153. monkeygourmet

    @152

    And the ‘agenda’ issssss:………………………?

    #153 4 months ago
  154. Legendaryboss

    @153
    How would i know? Thats a question for yourself.

    But there is a reason why you linked it for?

    #154 4 months ago
  155. monkeygourmet

    @154

    Pointing out the irony of mocking nostalgia while looking forward to a HD re-release. That’s all. I think you and Dragon have decided to try and turn it into something to fit your own… (Ready for it?) Agenda…

    #155 4 months ago
  156. monkeygourmet

    Btw, if your going to insinuate or accuse someone of having an ‘agenda’, it would be good to try and pinpoint it and announce it, rather than throw wild accusations without any ‘proof’.

    I’ve happily listed reasons why I think Dragon has an ‘agenda’ for example, and the constant flame baiting, trolling, stealth edits then crying ‘victim’ are nice proof to back that up.

    Edit, just to make it more clear:

    “You have an agenda!”

    “What is it?”

    “I don’t know? You tell me!”

    …that doesn’t really work or make any sense.

    #156 4 months ago
  157. Legendaryboss

    @Monkey
    My agenda was pointing it out and highlighting another issue.

    Without proof? It was very obvious you had an agenda as you have just proven which clearly “suits” you.

    This is because one does not simply quote someone from another article then copy that quote and then state to the person confusing/apply the same logic here without having an agenda.

    I fail to see the need to announce, point out and prove something that was clear as day. Of course if the agenda wasn’t obvious then the proof would:

    A. Most likely wouldn’t exist.
    B. Be present if need be, based on something else.

    Edit: There is a great deal in difference between knowing someone has an agenda and knowing exactly what that agenda is. They are not one and the same.

    #157 4 months ago
  158. Dragon

    @LB,
    http://cdn01.cdnwp.celebuzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/14/jennifer-lawrence-10.gif
    Let me be dragongif ;)

    I wonder how much longer these people will remain on their agenda and if this short-temper and bad-mouthing of theirs exist in real life too.

    #158 4 months ago
  159. monkeygourmet

    @157

    Pointing out irony means I have an agenda? If I wanted to really pull Dragon up, I could’ve used his first post where he insinuated Nintendo hyped people up falsly before VGX.

    That was pure flamebait as everyone knew Nintendo said they would be showing an already announced title… It was classic Dragon style. Thinly veiled passive agressive ‘compliments’…

    In the end I just tried to point out the irony of the constant ragging on nostalgia based on his comments about FF10 being re-released. That was all, you have run with that but there’s nothing I can do about that.

    I think you are twisting things somewhat. There are plenty of times I call Dragon out, but this display of irony / hypocrisy amused me, thats all. (As I said, I already ignored lots of flamebait).

    #159 4 months ago
  160. monkeygourmet

    whinge whinge tag team whinge whinge…

    #160 4 months ago
  161. monkeygourmet

    @Dragon

    I can answer the last part for you! :)

    You don’t usually meet people who manipulate things and play people off against each other that much IRL.

    Especially stealth editing and other tactics like that, it’s kind of tricky to achieve that, you generally get judged on how you communicate face to face. You can’t hide like you can in a forum.

    Also, people tend to call you out if you cry ‘wolf’ or play the victim when it’s obvious you enjoy provoking people.

    Hope that helps.

    #161 4 months ago
  162. Legendaryboss

    Good grief!
    http://s780.photobucket.com/user/dguy210/media/facepalm-star-trek-o_zps1270c857.gif.html

    To recap:
    Something i noticed and then stated.
    Someone else mentions LB being the one to poke and not the person who brought it up.
    Reinstate that he did not bring up this comment ergo having that to comment on.
    Reinstate the agenda.
    Just a few moments later gifed.

    #162 4 months ago
  163. monkeygourmet

    @LB

    And you have an agenda with Francis?

    #163 4 months ago
  164. Legendaryboss

    @163
    Disagreement.

    #164 4 months ago
  165. monkeygourmet

    @164

    Haha! Nice body swerve…

    But you are calling him out on his agenda…? Hmmmm… This is complicated….

    Sooooo… He has an ‘agenda’, but you have a ‘disagreement’… okay, I think im getting this now.

    #165 4 months ago
  166. Legendaryboss

    ^His agenda is being up Ninty’s ass and my agenda with him is disagreement, thats all.

    #166 4 months ago
  167. Joe Musashi

    An example of an agenda-fuelled commenting in this sort of context would be:

    “I started posting as I saw there was too much pro-[brand] sentiment and felt the balance needed to be redressed”

    I may have slightly misquoted the precise wording, but the sentiment is intact.

    And evident.

    JM

    #167 4 months ago
  168. monkeygourmet

    @166

    So your agenda is to disagree?

    I may be wrong, but I don’t think that makes any sense.

    Why can’t you just ‘disagree’ with someone, why have you brought ‘agenda’ into it?

    Was it pre-deteremined agenda? (because that makes you look like a judgemental dick), or has the agenda been forged over time? (based on studying his agenda)…

    #168 4 months ago
  169. monkeygourmet

    @167

    Thanks JM, so, my agenda is:

    I disliked the heavy fanboy presence and tried to create more balance?

    Okay, thanks, gosh! it sounds so awful when you word it like that! :)

    #169 4 months ago
  170. Legendaryboss

    @168
    I brought it up in the scheme of things but you were the one who asked specifically about Francis in regards to agenda. Which i don’t know how it has any relevance to me or the subject agenda.

    Well agreeing with him doesn’t work…
    http://www.vg247.com/2013/10/25/golden-joystick-awards-gta-5-gets-game-of-the-year-the-last-of-us-wins-three-awards/#comment-554505

    So there can only be disagreement.

    #170 4 months ago
  171. Joe Musashi

    @169 You are not arbiter of balance in a community. Realistically, no one individual is.

    That is not for you to decide and it is certainly not for you to act as judge, jury and executioner on.

    The sheer levels of egotism required to leapfrog well past such basic considerations and proclaim yourself as some righter of wrongs is quite staggering.

    JM

    #171 4 months ago
  172. monkeygourmet

    @170

    I was just asking because the word is being thrown around so much at the moment. I just dn’t think it’s being used correctly in many cases.

    JM has kindly pointed out my ‘agenda’ of why I started posting, there is obviously more to it than that (I like the site in general and used to enjoy many of the comments), but yeah thats the gist of it.

    #172 4 months ago
  173. monkeygourmet

    @171

    So why did you come back after your ban? What made you decide to change tact or what made you think that the forum missed your presence?

    #173 4 months ago
  174. polygem

    https://www.pinterest.com/pin/522206519263002758/

    @mg…better stop it man, we’ve been there so many times. these kids don’t want to talk about games. dragon wants his favourite brand to win and compensate something with it, getting a sales boner all the time, lb is two faced and likes to poke a lot and joe is shatner.
    this is not about nintendo, not even about games.

    #174 4 months ago
  175. monkeygourmet

    @174

    I needed a break from 8bit score attack! :)

    edit:

    (Oh, that was a bit candid! My agenda is showing!!! Argh!)

    #175 4 months ago
  176. polygem

    i’m stuck in this zephir(called like that in the english version?) temple in wwhd…grrr i’ve played that game before, it was almost a speedrun this far, i ignored all the sidequests. but i really hate this temple. same with that water temple in ocarina. sigh. what i love about albw is that theres always something to do. you’re constantly making progress. it had zero frustrations this far. i think it’s my favourite zelda game actually.
    but yeah, saw you practicing. maybe i should get my 8bit skills checked asap.

    #176 4 months ago
  177. Legendaryboss

    And there we go, ignoring the initial @7&9 posts of game related comments. Just because i don’t do it in a passionate stylised love letter towards Ninty doesn’t mean its not being done. And your also ignoring my comment @152.

    So that shows you are just shaping stuff in what you want to believe in/see.

    #177 4 months ago
  178. Legendaryboss

    I can’t speak about Nintendo games until after Christmas anyways.

    #178 4 months ago
  179. polygem

    @177: so that shows just that…aha. your world is very black and white then.
    see lb, i think i’m pretty much done with exchanging opinions with you and your gang. it doesn’t make sense. we’re not making progress. i post my opinion here and nothing else. i’m having some warm words for nintendo atm because i enjoy gaming on their systems. there’s nothing more to that. you don’t like that? fine. you think you need to create funny names to mock this? fine. you think having a different opinion than you is delusional, ignorant? fine.
    i hope for the redesign and i guess you are as well and that’s fine as well.
    i don’t get your point in post 177. it was a discussion about games and nothing else, clear to see for everyone, no matter how you look at it. the guys derailing this thread are the very same as in every single nintendo thread. it always always always starts with the spyrokid you and the shatner. always.
    it’s only my delusional, ignorant, mafia agenda talking now. i know. but i forbit it.

    #179 4 months ago
  180. Legendaryboss

    @179
    Not my gang. Mocking? Do you not see how your own statement at @174 is a direct insult to those listed? Having a different opinion is delusional? Never said that.

    At this point Poly i’m just having points you don’t like or agree with.

    #180 4 months ago
  181. polygem

    sigh lb. have you lost track of your own posting history?
    you’re playing the poor lamb now but you should just stand up for your own shit.

    don’t you think constantly calling others names like ndf, the forbit it crew, mafia, saying they’re delusional, ignorant, dreamers and so on and on and on is not an insult? well in my world it surely is. maybe this is our problem here. i insult. you don’t. i get it. this is how your whole argumentation works.
    but i really don’t care anymore. we’ve been here before about a million times. i’ll play some games now.

    #181 4 months ago
  182. Joe Musashi

    Look at that eager deflection when such staggering arrogance and conceit behind their implicitly admitted agenda is made abundantly clear.

    And the partner swoops in, the trusty sidekick, to add more distraction.

    Spin, lies, conspiracies, deflection, double-standards, conceit, hypocrisy, fabrication, accusation, arrogance.

    Oh, but it’s my opinion, so you just have to accept it“.

    Same old, same old.

    JM

    #182 4 months ago
  183. Legendaryboss

    @181
    NDF = Retired
    Forbidding it = If the shoe fits
    Mafia = Someone else not me.
    Delusional and ignorance = Was a quote.
    Dreamers = Nope.

    If you don’t tell someone what pretext your talking about don’t be surprised if he doesn’t recall. Also i never said i didn’t insult i just said i never said “delusional equal different opinion than me.”

    So now we are bringing in completely new scenarios to detract from what was previously said.

    Enjoy gaming.

    #183 4 months ago
  184. monkeygourmet

    @182

    Now, now Shatashi, would you kindly answer my questions:

    “Why did you come back after your ban? What made you decide to change tact or what made you think that the forum missed your presence?”

    I have a nice cup of tea, I want to hear your story.

    I’ve given my reasons for being here, you must have a fine story about rising from the ashes after Pat’s immortal words:

    “I’ve banned him. I’m not going to go into detail, but I couldn’t allow one person to derail the entire community. I found the end of my tether last night.”

    #184 4 months ago
  185. Joe Musashi

    Ah, more deflection via conspiracies, fabrication, spin, double-standards and arrogance.

    Same old, same old.

    JM

    #185 4 months ago
  186. monkeygourmet

    Come on Satashi, I’ve nothing to deflect…

    You on the other hand… (Well it’s quite obvious as you are squirming again).

    Someone’s reply after your banning: (there are many like this btw)

    “I agree xxx, I too avoided the place due to him; if there was an article with him posting in it I usually avoided it. I like a good arguement as much as the next guy, as you well know having been involved repeatedly! But you simply can’t argue with Shatner. Or talk. Or disscus. Or javelin.

    Good move.”

    Wow, you’ve really changed, what a stand up guy…

    Your fooling no one.

    #186 4 months ago
  187. Joe Musashi

    “Your fooling no one.”

    *You’re*

    JM

    #187 4 months ago
  188. monkeygourmet

    Thanksforcorrectingmeidontalwaysreadthroughmycommentsbeforeiclickpost

    #188 4 months ago
  189. Joe Musashi

    Comment one hundred and forty-four.

    Same old, same old. Always from the same ones.

    JM

    #189 4 months ago
  190. Ireland Michael

    @189 Don’t preach about monotony when half the posts are yours. You’re as tedious and repetitive as the people you’re criticising.

    Same old same old.

    #190 4 months ago
  191. Joe Musashi

    I’m not preaching (nice melodramatic word there – good for extra effect. Nice.) and the point being alluded to is certainly not about monotony. But I’m grateful you picked up on the methodology.

    You also have things the wrong way round:

    Why should you expect the outcome to be different if the events preceding it follow the same pattern?

    LOL, don’t worry Ireland Michael, I’m sure you know that’s a rhetorical question. I mean, what sort of delusional arrogance would I be displaying if I strutted around acting like people on the internet were answerable to me?

    Can you imagine that?!

    JM

    #191 4 months ago
  192. Ireland Michael

    You’re talking about the same people acting the same way all the time.

    And you’re always the one going on about it. Every. Single. Time. You’re falling into the same stupid pattern that got you banned years ago, and it’s motonenous as all fucking hell.

    #192 4 months ago
  193. Joe Musashi

    If people act the same way the same time then there’s no foul in expressing the same observation. 2 + 2 is going to equal 4. Don’t take issue with the smoke, deal with the fire.

    But it’s just my opinion, so you just have to accept it!

    And, come on now, Michael, you’ve been known to be repetitive in rhetoric yourself. And I know you’ve disputed the notion that you shouldn’t express your views when others have challenged you on it too.

    Reciprocity would be appreciated.

    On a broader note: I passionately am against any effort to control or limit expression. Certainly on a topic as insignificant as videogames. That is why you see me advocate greater tolerance and understanding, rather than bannings and dismissals. I sincerely hope you appreciate where I’m coming from with that sentiment.

    And I hope you appreciate what is occurring when someone whose ego has confessed their platform-specific agenda (167, 169, 171 above) persists in trying to bury it again under distractions and deflections of the nature being employed at present.

    JM

    Edit: ▼▼▼ LOL, Right on cue! ▼▼▼

    #193 4 months ago
  194. monkeygourmet

    The Shatner levels in this thread are getting dangerously high.

    #194 4 months ago
  195. monkeygourmet

    @Shatner

    My exact words were:

    “I started posting because of TEA and his crazy Sony ways. Not to be pro nintendo, just to address the balance.

    If anything, I mainly played on 360 back then…”

    So the ‘platform specific agenda’ is what? Xbox 360? Anti Sony? Pro Nintendo?

    Were getting close to this again aren’t we Shatner:

    http://www.vg247.com/2009/06/29/ea-fight-night-round-4-might-get-button-play-via-dlc/comment-page-1/

    Edit:

    And you complain about same old, same old?! You’ve been doing this for years, all you’ve done is change target… (Hmmmm… Why do you need a target at all? It’s almost like you have predetermined agenda? No… That can’t be it… That would be crazy…)

    #195 4 months ago
  196. Hcw87

    Facepalm worthy thread, just like pretty much every Nintendo article. And it’s no surprise seeing the same people going back and forth all the time.

    @194
    I’d just give up having a discussion with the guy, he’ll try and squirm out of it whenever he senses he’s wrong about something.

    ”2+2 is 4”

    ”Really? You haven’t SHOWN me any proof of that”.

    ”Dedicated servers are far superior to player hosted servers”

    ”SHOW ME”.

    Like trying to have a conversation with a monkey that thinks he’s clever.

    #196 4 months ago
  197. Joe Musashi

    Everyone knows monkeys aren’t as clever as they think they are.

    JM

    #197 4 months ago
  198. monkeygourmet

    @197

    Smooth move exlax…

    #198 4 months ago
  199. Ireland Michael

    @197 Point proven.

    Grow up dude.

    #199 4 months ago