Sony gamescom 2013: PS4 out November 15 in US, November 29 in Europe

Tuesday, 20th August 2013 17:33 GMT By Stephany Nunneley

Sony kicked off its gamescom press conference with a live stream where a release date was announced for PS4 as well as price drops for Vita and the 12GB PS3 Super Slim.

The firm announced last week it was set to reveal unannounced games as well as its release plans for PlayStation 4 and it did not disappoint.

Along with various games and bundles, Jim Ryan announced a PS3 exclusive GTA 5 bundle where is you pre-order the game you will get 75% off all Rockstar titles through PSN.

While that was nice to hear, there’s more as you will see below.

Dynamic User Interface

The stream started off with Shuhei Yoshida silhouetted in a chair on stage messing around with the PlayStation 4′s UI before playing a bit of Killzone: Shadowfall.

He jumped into the game while watching a stream, and uploaded a screenshot from the game to the menu and posting it to Twitter.

It was the global unveiling of the the system’s Dynamic User Interface.

Gran Turismo 6 out in December for PS3

After the demonstration, Sony Computer Entertainment Europe president and CEO Jim Ryan took the stage to introduce a new trailer for Gran Turismo 6. The game will have many different concept vehicles in it as part of a collaboration with manufacturers, and in some cases they will be manufactured in the real world. This concept car project is called “Vision Gran Turismo.”

Gran Turismo 6 is out on December 6, 2013 on PS3 and Sony also confirmed the Gran Turismo movie as being in the works.

LittleBigPlanet Hub – a new free-to-play service

LittleBigPlanet Hiub was announced during the stage presentation as a new free-to-play service on PS3, set for launch later this year. A feature featuring Stephen Fry discussing challenges, the new create suite and community competitions with prizes.

Vita galore

Vita will be getting a price cut in the US and Europe from tomorrow and will now run you $199 and €199.99.

FEZ and Velocity 2X from Futurelab coming to PS Vita along with: Borderlands 2, Football Manager 2014, Batman Arkham Origins: Blackgate, and Lego Marvel.

Also announced was Murasaki Baby, a new title from Italian developer Ovosonico designed specifically for Vita touch controls. The game is headed up by Shadow of the Damed’s creator, and looks rather gorgeous.

Starbound from Chucklefish is coming to PS Vita.

Showing the love for indies

A new F2P game called BigFest was also announced and takes inspiration from music festivals and turns you into a music promoter basically, where you can create, build and manage the festival in order to become the world’s greatest music promoter.

During the conference, Sony focused on its indie cred, by showing a video with independent developers discussing how awesome PlayStation is with Mark Cerny discussing how PS4 is “the world’s most powerful game console,” and in order to satisfy gamers, the firm knew it would need to bring “the very best games to the platform.” Not just the big hitters: but the small studios as well. This resulted in the”strongest launch lineup in PlayStation history” thanks to speaking with devs all over the world.

Sony said its indie development support comes through in not only a financial matter by loaning out dev kits, but helping the studios through its incubation program to ensure projects made are the first console debut.

To that end, Shahid Ahmad, SCEE’s senior business development manager, took the stage to state that being an indie is about “freedom” to release what you want, when you want, with a device choice.

His courting of indies has made an impression, as Ahmad proved by announcing that N++ will debut exclusively on PS4, this year and that Rogue Legacy will be coming first to PS4 and PS Vita in 2014.

He also announced that in 2014, Hotline Miami 2 will also make its console exclusive debut on PS4 and Vita as well as Vlambeer’s Wasteland Kings.

Guns of Icarus Online will also make its console exclusive debut on PS4, and Thomas Was Alone’s Mike Bithell came on stage to announce that Volume, his studio’s new title, will debut exclusively on PS4 and Vita in 2014 as well.

PS4 launch titles and beyond

After Sony touted its indie line-up, Sony Worldwide Studios Europe SVP Michael Denny took the stage once again to discuss various games and incentives for PS4 and PlayStation Plus.

Denny said that 14 studios which make up Sony World Wide Studios will play an “essential role in the future of PlayStation 4,” as all are working on PS4 titles with unannounced projects in the works at Sony Santa Monica, Media Molecule, and Naughty Dog.

For third-parties, Everybody’s Gone to the Rapture – the new title in the works at The Chinese Room – will also be released on PS4 and is a post-apocalyptic title developed using CryEngine 3.

Arrowhead Studios of Magika fame are also working on a cross-platform title called Helldivers, which looked like an isometric shooter of yore, which should please many fans of the genre.

RESOGUN is an arcade shooter in the works at Housemarque headed up by the Super Stardust Delta studio exclusive for PS4, and will add a “new twist” to the genre. The gameplay is similar to old school 2D shooters with gravity affecting the gameplay.

Shadow of the Beast, the Amiga classic, has also been “re-imagined” for PS4 and will only be available for the console.

Rime, an open world adventure game from Spanish developer Tequilla Works was announced as in development.

PlayRoom will be pre-installed on PS4 and uses the PS Camera, and a new trailer for InFamous: Second Son was shown and introduced a female character in the game called Abigail Walker.

A video of Killzone: Shadow Fall’s multiplayer was shown, and the game lets you create Warzones and play those created by other players.

Jim Ryan then took the stage once more to discuss PS Plus and Sony Music Unlimited and announce Twitch coming to PS4.

Sony is entering into “strategic partnerships” with Europe’s leading ISP’s for broadband service deals with companies such as Deutche Telecom, Orange, Virgin and ONO which will produce internet speeds “of up to 200 mega bits per second” reserved for gaming.

Sony Music Unlimited will launch day one with PS4 and a free 14 day trial of PS Plus is available to any new PS4 owner and comes with the instant game collection, DriveCLub PS Plus Edition and RESOGUN. Users can also sign up for a year via the PS Store, and get an additional 90 days of Plus membership.

PS4/Vita remote play demonstrated with Assassin’s Creed 4

Jim Ryan announced during the conference that almost all PS4 games can be played remotely on Vita. This was demonstrated when Ubisoft CEO Yves Guillemot took the stage to show how remote play between PS4 and Vita works using Assassin’s Creed 4: Black Flag.

The demonstration showed a naval battle taking place on Vita over Wi-Fi by Ubisoft Montreal’s Pascal Theriault. It seemed flawless from the stage demo impression.

Guillemot also confirmed that Sony Pictures and Ubisoft are working on a movie for Watch Dogs and showed a new trailer for the game as well as announcing exclusive DLC content for PS4.

Ryan also announced Minecraft, one of the most requested games for Sony platforms, would be coming to PS4. Another PS4 game, War Thunder, was announced as an exclusive PS4 and will be free to play.

The date heard ’round the world

Finally, to close things out, Sony president and group CEO Andrew House took the stage to announce a date for PS4 and a price cut for PS3 Super Slim.

The 12GB model PS3 will now run you 199 Euros/$199 and if you purchase select games such as CoD: Ghosts, Watchdogs or Assassin’s Creed 4 for PS3, you can pick up the PS4 versions at a discount.

PlayStation 4, which has seen over 1 million pre-orders, will be released for 399 Euros/$399/£349 on November 15 in North America and November 29 in Europe.



  1. Djoenz

    You better step up your game Sony. I beg of you please wow me! I might buy PS4 next year. . . . maybe. . .

    #1 1 year ago
  2. BazzaLFC

    Why is it the E3 press Conference video feed?

    #2 1 year ago
  3. Dark

    I hope we see more first party exclusives and please don’t waste our time with Knack and PS3 games.

    #3 1 year ago
  4. Kieran

    I hope its november so i can keep gta 5 longer before i trade in my ps3 !!! but exactly what @1 said i hope they wow us theyv been silent 4 agez !!! im gonna buy a ps4 regardless but id love something big

    #4 1 year ago
  5. MFBB

    #3 well dont forget there are millions of people who want to see Knack and PS3 games :)

    About 3 hours long presentation said the PlaystationBlog, so plenty of time for PS3/PSVita/PS4

    I really hope for surprises, was disappointed from Microsofts event when I read through all the news.

    Same with ElectronicArts conference.

    I want to see some surprises like Demon Souls 2 or whatever.

    #5 1 year ago
  6. actuallyisnotafox

    @3 hey knack is basically the jak and daxter/ratchet and clank of next generation! :p

    #6 1 year ago
  7. Kieran

    Id love a heavenly sword 2

    #7 1 year ago
  8. Hoika

    @7 Damn, I would love a Heavenly Sword 2 too! I would also like to see a new Siren game and The Last of Us 2… we’ll see…

    #8 1 year ago
  9. Dragon246

    Its 3 hours including a chat session starting 2 hours from now, so the conf. probably wont be bigger than 1.5 hrs, at max 2 hrs.
    Still enough time to wow though :D

    #9 1 year ago
  10. dravenkaze

    its late starting again, needs better music

    #10 1 year ago
  11. monkeygourmet

    Worse intro ever…

    This is stupid as shit.

    Come one Sony, pick up the pace!

    #11 1 year ago
  12. monkeygourmet

    UI looked bad, this looks pretty unprofessional so far…

    Did this guy even learn his lines…?!

    #12 1 year ago
  13. Djoenz

    Whipped out my chocolate and oreos out the cabinet this betta good -__-
    Laptop connected to my tv.

    #13 1 year ago
  14. Djoenz

    Yeah he mumbled the word conference. . teleprompter ftw.

    #14 1 year ago
  15. monkeygourmet



    He’s locked on alright!

    #15 1 year ago
  16. MCTJim

    I thought the intro was cute..but you got to see the UI in action.

    #16 1 year ago
  17. monkeygourmet

    This is a car boot sale effort so far, get this guy off!

    #17 1 year ago
  18. Irani

    Sony Please Next Generation Game , Not knack ….

    #18 1 year ago
  19. Djoenz

    Man he is so nervous wahaha im laughing my ass off. .
    Shitt my laptop is rebooting due to updates arghh. .

    Next gen please!

    #19 1 year ago
  20. monkeygourmet

    Mega pack!

    Cool name, doesn’t make it sound like cheap shit atall! :/

    #20 1 year ago
  21. Dragon246

    Price cut for Vita! Woot!

    #21 1 year ago
  22. Djoenz

    Damn this laptop which happens to be Microsoft powered lol. What did I miss? . .

    #22 1 year ago
  23. Djoenz

    wtf is thees? ? o__O

    #23 1 year ago
  24. yeoung

    Just one time, I’d like to see a presenter that walks up in a Tetris shirt, and talking about how fucking awesome this shit is looking, and have you seen that shit!? Ridiculous right? yeaaah… co-op too baby.

    Check out these rides? Shiny as fuck, right? GT6 bitch. Get your race on.

    Instead it’s always the same stiff dude talking about accessibility like he’s trying to score a grant from the AAPD. It’d be cool to see a gamer up there, something the demographic at large could identify with.

    Instead we get mr. I sell-superglue-from-a-briefcase.

    #24 1 year ago
  25. monkeygourmet

    Murasuki Baby looks nice, I hope you can mute the whining sound effects though.

    #25 1 year ago
  26. Djoenz

    Its a conference not a demonstration. They need to keep it professional yo! but that would be awesome indeed. Just refreshing.

    Murasaki Baby looks weird as hell @MG

    #26 1 year ago
  27. Irani

    Sony Please Stop It , We Do Not Like Vita , We Need Game and News About PS4

    #27 1 year ago
  28. Sadismek

    Wow, I love what they’ve showed for Vita so far!

    #28 1 year ago
  29. polygem

    i just realised HOW tired i am of this marketing bla…

    #29 1 year ago
  30. monkeygourmet


    Innovative, accessible x 100000

    #30 1 year ago
  31. Djoenz

    Guns of Icarus online? ?

    #31 1 year ago
  32. Irani

    Sony it is so Boring Show Come on Sony ….

    #32 1 year ago
  33. Joe Musashi

    Very happy about the prospect of a portable Rogue Legacy. Superb game.


    #33 1 year ago
  34. pcbros

    This pure focus on indie games is a huge mistake! I can get indie games on any PC with Steam for $3-5. There is no way people are going to pay $400 to buy indie games for $10-15.

    They better have big game announcements or they will fail.

    #34 1 year ago
  35. Sadismek

    Did I hear them say… Naughty Dog? :D

    #35 1 year ago
  36. Djoenz

    Rapture tease hmmmm . .
    Hmm ICO feeling! !

    #36 1 year ago
  37. monkeygourmet

    Rime looks awesome: it’s effectively Windwaker X ICO, what’s not to like?!

    #37 1 year ago
  38. pcbros

    So far it’s indie games and arcade games that look last gen. I better see Uncharted 4.

    And that Sony camera game is just pathetic…

    #38 1 year ago
  39. Djoenz

    I agree Rime looks amazing hehe :D but more interested in Rapture and Shadow of the beast looks brute I suppose.

    #39 1 year ago
  40. Joe Musashi

    @37 I got the feeling as well. Even the font is like ICO. I’m sure that’s no accident.


    #40 1 year ago
  41. monkeygourmet


    I was sprised it was Vita too?! I suppose the art style could be pretty scalable. Looks like one I’d rather play on the big screen though! :)

    #41 1 year ago
  42. pcbros

    So remote play is Sony’s immitation of the Wii U gamepad?

    The problem is that with the Wii U, you continue to use the same controller (so no gameplay loss), while the using remote play requires you to switch to a Vita (which is $200) and offers inferior controls to the PS4′s gamepad.

    #42 1 year ago
  43. polygem

    so far, the indies for vita and that windwaker ico game…other than that…hmmm.

    #43 1 year ago
  44. Lengendaryboss

    Ok, price drop expected, as well as ports, the indie focus is an interesting topic i’ll cover at somepoint.

    #44 1 year ago
  45. Joe Musashi

    Bringing out Andrew House to fire some corporate trolling and deliver a key announcement. Again.

    @42 What’s also important is to take away a USP from the competition. Just like last gen when MS and Sony brought out their motion controllers. It takes away a USP. Just like an exclusive going multiplat.

    Good diversity of content and ideas on display in that conference.


    #45 1 year ago
  46. Christopher Jack

    Hmm, I get the indie focus, just didn’t like it. Guess I had too high expectations, like perhaps a Last of Us & GT6 PS4 port, & maybe a few AAA announcements like Uncharted 4. In fact I think my biggest gripe with the Vita were the promises of AAA quality games on the go but that just hasn’t & remains unlikely to happen.

    #46 1 year ago
  47. YungBroccoli

    @42 Remote play was already a feature on the PSP in 2007.

    It is not a Imitation Wii U gamepad is an Imitation. If we did an comparison.

    #47 1 year ago
  48. pcbros

    Honestly, was anyone really impressed with this conference?

    I think they blew it. There was nothing shown that I hadn’t already seen or that makes me want a PS4 all of a sudden.

    Their camera is a joke and the fact they didn’t include it with every system seals it’s doom. Historically speaking, add-on peripherals have never been really successful.

    They were even too embarassed to show Drive Club footage. I was expecting a final build with much better graphics than the E3 build.

    Infamous was cool, but I already saw it and it’s not enough for me to spend $400.

    I really expected Uncharted 4…. huge let down for me.

    #48 1 year ago
  49. fihar

    How many indie titles were announced again? I lost count.
    I love Runner 2 as much as the next guy but even I think this is a bit unbalanced. I half-expected that there will be more indie titles than triple-A ones come launch day but I definitely didn’t expect this.

    #49 1 year ago
  50. zoopdeloop

    @48 as much of Microsoft’s.Both were underwhelming

    you should know by now that ND announces it’s games at VGAs.
    don’t expect a ND game so soon (they merely just released Last of Us)
    at least we know they are working on something so does Sony Santa Monica and MM.
    As i have said no game on either Ps4 or One is a system seller for now although there are going to be later on

    #50 1 year ago
  51. Phoenixblight


    “don’t expect a ND game so soon (they merely just released Last of Us)”

    You do realize that Naughty Dogs has two separate teams right? So they can release games within a year of each other and it would be a non-issue.

    #51 1 year ago
  52. TF_PtMaster

    @48 i was hopping for a much better show. But we need to be realist, this was a conference not a showcase. They have 3 platforms and they need to sell all 3.

    PS3 is still getting strong games, and is in this late life cycle when consoles are cheaper to make. Is important for them to sell systems.

    Vita is in trouble. They need to sell the handled, and with the price drop, they can hope for better days.

    Of course we, up to date gamers, want new annoucments everyday, i was hopping for the new ND game.

    And with all those preorders they don’t need to push harder.

    Next year E3 and gamescom will be strong in games.

    #52 1 year ago
  53. zoopdeloop


    that happened with the Last of Us so the other team would still support Uncharted 3 additional content.We don’t know if they’re working together again or not for their next game

    #53 1 year ago
  54. Phoenixblight


    You think it takes a full team to make map packs and the like for Uncharted 3? It doesn’t it takes a relatively small team(10-15 people) to pump out that DLC so the main team would be in production for another game. Also a developer doesn’t work on the game until release. 3 months prior to release they are already moved on to another project whether that be DLC or another game.

    #54 1 year ago
  55. zoopdeloop


    yet we don’t know if both teams are working together on their next game.Or if post development of TLOU the team took a very long vacation.They deserve it after all
    I’ll stick to it.Don’t expect a new ND game any time soon.

    #55 1 year ago
  56. Phoenixblight

    “yet we don’t know if both teams are working together on their next game”

    Does it matter? They have a huge team well over most studios so splitting them and allowing them have vacation they can still hit the ground running. All studios give a vacation period after release that is usually factored in. It may not be in the coming weeks sure but in the next 6 months you will see an announcement.

    Also Media Molecule’s game was in GI magazine a while back and that game that was shown at E3 a year ago is the sole reason why I am getting a PS4.

    #56 1 year ago
  57. zoopdeloop

    @56 that’s what i was telling him anyway.
    I’m sure he’d expected something from them a lot sooner…like right now which is practicaly impossible since they already released a you said it will take a little while for an announcement and i’m pretty sure by the end of 2014 we’ll have our hands on their new game

    #57 1 year ago
  58. Stephany Nunneley

    Christ it took me ages, but the post is finally cleaned up and full of pertinent information. :/

    #58 1 year ago
  59. sebastien rivas

    even though it is a conference. I was hoping more hook and fish.
    Cute but nothing for gamers per se except price tags which is always welcoming.

    One question remains. Why is Vita so dam expensive? I understand you have the whole hoopla houray technology inside it but it is not of today nor can’t be more produced to down price. I was expecting less than 199 mark point to be honest. Maybe dreaming indeed but it sounds like Sony stuck his foot in the door retail price-wise with conponent choices. Am I wrong?
    I have been lurking around for Vita and the de facto is 2 models, wifi and wifi+3g but 3g comes through ATT and boyyyy you don’t want to plan 3G with ATT. It works, it works perhaps very well but I have done my share with ATT to be honest and I feel like a whore throwing money to his pimp.
    Would not that be cool if Sony comes on US soil with his own telecommunication. I feel like ATT and others have decent choices but price just is a real killer. It is like they don’t want you to use the internet.
    Maybe a Vita wifi yes but I wait a bit to see what is going on for PS4>Vita, how devs follow the trend and how it is used.

    Thanks Steph,
    Nice article

    #59 1 year ago
  60. kaffikjelen

    It was a disappointing conference compared to last year, and that’s quite an achievement with the PS4 upcoming. But what ground my gears the most was the idiotic camera, absurdly filming the audience when trailers were playing on-screen. Who the hell cares about the audience when there’s next-gen graphics on display?

    #60 1 year ago
  61. tezzer1985

    Sony have done really well with the PS4, they clearly do not need to blow their load with AAA 1st Party this year…also with 3rd parties having a strong line up, I’m sure E3 2014 will be highly entertaining

    #61 1 year ago
  62. Javinator

    Wow.. speechless.
    Sony with so much hype going in with this and all they come out with are more indie games??

    I think X1 is back in the winning in the “Next Gen” Dept

    #62 1 year ago
  63. Telepathic.Geometry

    I see that Fez is coming to Vita. Is there any hope that it might be released on PS3 as well?

    #63 1 year ago
  64. Lengendaryboss

    PS3, PS Vita and PS4, no need for hope when its confirmed.

    #64 1 year ago
  65. MCTJim

    I watched this 3 times and the biggest applause was for Borderlands 2. Really seemed rather lackluster given that this is the the biggest show in Europe if I am not mistaken.

    Sony seemed to concentrate on Vita and indies more than anything. Like it was predicted.

    I did however hear the swipe Sony took at MS and that was very unprofessional. When people lash out like that they feel threatened in some way. That being said, I feel that both companies have changed for the better. Both companies have made strides in the last 6 months since their reveals. This is going to drain everyone’s wallets come this Thanksgiving and Christmas Season.

    #65 1 year ago
  66. Phoenixblight

    Gamescom has always been weak in presentations. Always. TGS has always been better and that is not even aimed at the west.

    MS was pretty much Dr. Evil when he was persuading his son he was “hip”

    #66 1 year ago
  67. MCTJim

    Well TGS is September 19-22..I hope Sony’s showing will be better than at Gamescom.

    #67 1 year ago
  68. Lengendaryboss

    The competition both lash out each other on occasion:

    Its not just Sony:

    #68 1 year ago
  69. MCTJim

    @68 I find it disgusting that anyone at top level taking stabs be it either side.

    My issue is coming out during a press conference and taking a swipe..I dont care who you are show some class. You are the president of Sony thus I hold you to higher standards. If Bill Gates came out and said Sony Sucks I would feel the same way…show some class.

    #69 1 year ago
  70. Telepathic.Geometry

    @Lengendaryboss: Shit, I must have misread it so, I only saw Vita. Fuckin’ sweet!!! ^-^ /dances

    #70 1 year ago
  71. redwood

    haha this was funny :D

    #71 1 year ago
  72. redwood

    @51 I really DON’t want an yearly uncharted, I don’t UC to turn int Ass-creed, which is one franchise that has completely became diluted. the last of us took more than year to make and it’s a great game, same for infamous and UC too. but anyway I am not privy to ND’s internal working so i can’t say what they are up to, but they should have showed up last night.
    I liked the conference over all, some of the indies were owesome, (rime, shadow of the beast, rapture)…

    #72 1 year ago
  73. Joe Musashi

    @69 Better not read Aaron Greenbergs’ twitter if you’re such a delicate flower.

    Looks like you still have a lot of trouble seeing all the trees in that forest of yours.


    #73 1 year ago
  74. redwood

    @73.. didn’t see any stabs at sony on aaron’s twitter.. do link me to that if you can..

    #74 1 year ago
  75. zoopdeloop

    @69 they did it in a very much classy way.It was also their answer for Microsoft stalking them and following on their footsteps to play catch up.This whole reference didn’t took more than 10 secs.Microsoft has done that in the past and dragged it along while they always throw jabs under the belt at them via journalism and social media.
    you can tell who is obsessed with who here.

    Microsoft is the worst type competitor it does this all the time with Apple,Google… you name it

    #75 1 year ago
  76. Joe Musashi

    @74 I’m not talking about the last 24 hours. More like the last 7 years :).

    But, frankly, although we know what Andrew House was referring to he wasn’t trolling without a point. He was making a valid comparison (and a point many gamers are expressing concern on) and presenting his company is the purist of the pure. Part of his job.

    As #68 points out, this isn’t the only time this has happened and some of the antics of the past have been very blatant indeed. These conferences are not about humility and any advantage from one company will tend to be exaggerated at the expense of the other.

    Which, in fairness, is what Aaron Greenberg and others are paid to do as well.


    #76 1 year ago
  77. Lengendaryboss

    Whatever floats your boat, but taking classy, sly jabs anywhere should be “unprofessional” not just at a conference: that logic just doesn’t make any sense.

    “If Bill Gates came out and said Sony Sucks I would feel the same way” Thats not what he said, he said it in a classy manner and didn’t referenced MS (We know its them). You seem to neglect what you don’t want to hear, make up what wasn’t said and comment on a topic you have no knowledge on right up until the point MS says they are doing it: Kinect, this and Self-publishing.

    #77 1 year ago
  78. redwood

    am with LB on this…I think it was not an under the belt kinda thing. He did in a “professional” manner by actually stating the truth.

    #78 1 year ago
  79. MCTJim

    @77 We can disagree what classy is. Point is he is the President and should hold himself to a higher manner of professionalism. I hold him to a higher standard….. And nice usual..LOL no knowledge..LOL nice jab..keep spinning like you always do

    #79 1 year ago
  80. Lengendaryboss

    Spin? Its what you said, word for word, so please stop labelling me as something i’m not.

    No we cannot it was classy, did Sony say MS sucks? no.

    “While others has shifted their message and changed their story, we were consistent in maintaining a message that is fair and in tune with consumer desires, We strove to deliver a platform that delivers both power and great value. And the response we’ve received has been nothing short of incredible.”

    EDIT: Oh ok weren’t you the one who said security could be hacked by indies under the self publishing scheme and then turn on his words when MS announced self-publishing? Weren’t you the one who couldn’t see that the “naysayers” didn’t want Kinect in the box but you were the one relating that problem to price? And weren’t you just the one who said Sony should be professional but ignoring the last seven years of this unprofessional behaviour then say it only relates to conferences?

    Nice jab? yeah in a classy manner, i’m not outright insulting you. Thats an example right there.

    #80 1 year ago
  81. MCTJim

    @80 and that was the president of sony taking a swipe openly..I dont like it..he should be held to a higher standard…that is my opinion and if you dont like dont have to.

    Nice spin again on the quoted something old before I realized that there was indeed a process to prevent that. I admitted I was wrong, but here you go spinning and leaving out the steak from the steak and potatoes dinner. Another words leaving out then ending and resolution…see you spun it..good job

    and if you bother to read other would get the kinect issue..which I can tell from your other posts you dont want regardless of price..its in the box and its staying..

    #81 1 year ago
  82. Lengendaryboss

    Oh i remember all of it, never quoted the indies but all i commented on was the fact that you were arguing about it before (with no knowledge) then changed your tune the moment MS announced it coincidentally with knowledge. I know you admitted you were wrong but unless you can tell me the above didn’t happen i’m not spinning anything and thats just a defence mechanism. Also its not the point of issue.

    “and if you bother to read other would get the kinect issue..which I can tell from your other posts you dont want regardless of price..its in the box and its staying..”

    Its not a issue, its not hard to take Kinect out of the box. Oh so you are bringing price into the Kinect issue again… no not even going to say anything more about that. Just like all the polices MS u-turned, just like the headset that wasn’t supposed to be in the box.

    #82 1 year ago
  83. MCTJim

    @82 I leave you with this: Dwelling on the past only blinds you to the future.

    as for matter what decision you make..someone will always be mad at you

    #83 1 year ago
  84. Dragon246
    “”I think that it’s quite clear that you should wait, because the Xbox is the only real eight-generation console. The PlayStation 4 is, and I’m sad to say but this is how it looks to me, only a more powerful PlayStation 3. On the other hand I think the Xbox One is a paradigm shift in the console world: A whole entertainment system.”
    Says MS rep.

    At least House isn’t talking out of his ass.

    #84 1 year ago
  85. Lengendaryboss

    Don’t give advice that doesn’t even remotely make sense in my situation.

    #85 1 year ago
  86. Lengendaryboss

    Forget it, he only means when its related conferences and presidents/CEO.

    #86 1 year ago
  87. backup

    Sony won by huge margin

    and they say gamescom = PC

    looks like PC was treated like shit

    PC pirates will get PS3 port of fifa and PES lol

    #87 1 year ago
  88. MCTJim

    @85/86 when MS was asked about the comment

    thats classy

    #88 1 year ago
  89. Joe Musashi

    Evasive =! Classy

    Remember this bit of class? Or this one?

    For the record, I’m fine with chest-beating by execs. Its what they do. These companies have a product to sell. They are going to blur lines, exaggerate and inflate positives. That’s how it is.


    #89 1 year ago
  90. Lengendaryboss

    And this is what?

    So the above me and Dragon linked is what? See 68/84/89

    Oh wasn’t it presidents not vice-presidents that you expect to have class? Wasn’t that supposed to be at a conference like stated above so openly? Your view on what is classy and what is not, is completely wrong.

    Like JM said “Looks like you still have a lot of trouble seeing all the trees in that forest of yours.”

    #90 1 year ago
  91. Dragon246

    “We will kill Sony at E3″
    - Craig Davidson, Director of Global Marketing Microsoft

    Did no one asked him afterwards? :D

    Now that is CLASSY.

    #91 1 year ago
  92. MCTJim

    again dragon you came late to the party..I said I dont like it from either side….can stand it at all it really bothers me. If I saw that one from MS, I would have called him on the carpet.

    at LB Dwelling on the past only blinds you to the future…

    #92 1 year ago
  93. Lengendaryboss

    Are you completely neglecting it because it proves you wrong or what? Keep trying though even though you are wrong anyway both on the definition of classy and failing to see that both companies do this not just Sony.

    It doesn’t matter what level employee said the comments, that employee is representing the company and his views/opinions on the competition. The “deal with it” cost one person his job, the arrogance of Don Mattrick made negativity worse. So again if you honestly think Presidents snipes/insults/classy snipes only matter in a conference thats just wrong in so many ways and if you can’t apply to both, its makes you see only one side.

    #93 1 year ago
  94. Lengendaryboss

    Its even more ironic and shows hypocrisy at @95 Says the person who links a past article to prove his wrong point

    “Dwelling on the past only blinds you to the future”
    Again you don’t know me so you don’t have any right to pass off advice not helpful in anyway.

    #94 1 year ago
  95. MCTJim

    AT LB..still the spinster as ever…remember Titanfall is an X1 exclusive…no its not..blah blah blah I can play it on PC..Dude you damn well that its a console exclusive to MS….keep spinning you will have a great career in politics one day

    #95 1 year ago
  96. Lengendaryboss

    So you give advice not to focus on past, brings up the past.

    What does that make you? LOL :P

    I’m going to tell you what i told him: not exclusive, he couldn’t prove it and neither can you.
    I never said play it on PC, i was talking about platforms.

    One more thing like the person i told it wasn’t exclusive he couldn’t prove any of what he was saying, you can’t either (Still can’t even prove the spinster) i think you two need tips in that department ;)

    Politics? I didn’t spin your words and strangely you still can’t deny thats what happened.


    #96 1 year ago
  97. monkeygourmet


    As its still being talked about;

    I thought the Sony ‘punch’ to MS last night was a complete cheap shot.

    It is fair game these days, but it did nothing other than make me think Sony has a weaker showing on launch now that MS has got their shit together.

    It looked a bit desperate if you ask me. Just show some cool stuff and stop acting like a bitchy little girl in the playground. MS has come on leaps and bounds since E3 IMO, Sony have pretty much flat lined.

    #97 1 year ago
  98. Lengendaryboss

    Yeah the press conference was weak for both of them and they both make cheap shots, the competition always fight dirty :P

    I’m still wondering why they didn’t show what their studios were working on.

    #98 1 year ago
  99. zinc

    What was said that has all the Xbots flustered?

    Was it something about their strategy not changing?

    OOOH burn!!


    #99 1 year ago
  100. Lengendaryboss

    “While others has shifted their message and changed their story, we were consistent in maintaining a message that is fair and in tune with consumer desires, We strove to deliver a platform that delivers both power and great value. And the response we’ve received has been nothing short of incredible.”

    Mind you the above says its a snipe and unprofessional rather than classy, even though facts were shoved in front of him.

    #100 1 year ago
  101. beast313

    Seems Sony knows what their vision is and has no reason to deviate. Microsoft isn’t doing their usual boasting because they have been put into a defensive position. Statement by Sony is just a fact of the situation.

    #101 1 year ago
  102. monkeygourmet


    Also, it’s a lie.

    It’s almost guaranteed that half of Sony’s ‘strategy’ was created ‘on the fly’…

    We’re you really going to sell the camera separately Sony? Reallllllly?

    Half of it just seemed like quick reactions to me after MS’s abysmal first ‘TV TV TV’ showing. Went first, showed very little then reacted of MS’s dullard manuvres.

    Not bad, but their going to have to do more than score a few open goals before I’ll be impressed. Also, they keep making the same jokes, it looks like a bit of a one trick pony show at the moment.

    And the Indie stuff, we get it!!! You love to suck hardcore true gamer cock…

    #102 1 year ago
  103. Lengendaryboss

    At this point i’m sick of debating thanks to a nuisance, whether or not Sony changed their strategies behind the scenes at this point is all conspiracy and honestly based on denied rumours.

    The indie stuff i’m not a big fan of, glad they are supporting it but come on leave it in a sizzle reel not dedicate almost the entire conference to it.

    I can’t believe it but Gamescom and E3 standards are slipping, slowly but surely.

    #103 1 year ago
  104. monkeygourmet


    So maybe if Sony / MS had a Nintendo Direct? But showed games instead of apologising for 1 hour? :)

    #104 1 year ago
  105. Phoenixblight


    PS4 was announced first now tell me in that announcement was the the camera ever the focus because I never saw it. Hell, I didn’t know about it until weeks after in an article. WHere MS did their announcement it was all about the kinect and TV. You have no ground to stand on claiming that it was changed on the fly due to MS horrible PR. You have nothing to prove your point what-so-ever. You’re grasping at best. Its actually coming off very fanboyish.

    #105 1 year ago
  106. Lengendaryboss

    Sony had something like that for PS Vita, it wasn’t as high profile and entertaining: (if you ain’t japanese ;) called Vita Heaven for Japan.

    MS? That would be intriguing, there are a few people within them that sound like entertaining people.

    Overall they both have good people suitable for that type of event.

    #106 1 year ago
  107. monkeygourmet


    Okay, you got me.

    I can’t prove it. But, to not assume Sony was trying to counter and run with MS’s bad publicity and high price is naive.

    We only have Sony’s word to go on, and I wouldn’t trust each of the companies for 1 second with shit like that.

    #107 1 year ago
  108. Djoenz

    Out of the two companies which do you trust more aye? You can make up stories all you want at least Sony had their vision from the get go.

    By developers and for developers. GAMES. Now take your pick or buy both, but seriously stop spreading bullshit.

    #108 1 year ago
  109. Lengendaryboss

    I wouldn’t fault him most people believe Sony dropped the camera to undercut MS (based on a denied rumour) and can’t prove it afterwards.

    At this point just ignore it.

    #109 1 year ago
  110. Phoenixblight


    ” can’t prove it. But, to not assume Sony was trying to counter and run with MS’s bad publicity and high price is naive.

    We only have Sony’s word to go on, and I wouldn’t trust each of the companies for 1 second with shit like that.”

    Just because there is no proof doesn’t mean you can just claim it so. It doesn’t work like that. If SOny announcement was like MS with their camera being the focus then at E3 they did exactly what they did then I would say yes that is most likely the case but its not. The camera is as much of an afterthought as it was this gen. SOny would be absolutely moronic not to exploit MS horrendous PR. MS would have done the same thing if the tables had turned.

    #110 1 year ago
  111. monkeygourmet


    I’m still apprehensive of Sony from all the PS3 bullshit.

    Rumble in pad, fake game trailers, cross game talk etc…

    But, they seem a bit more switched on with PS4. I am getting both btw, always have done, always will. Also, MS has plenty of sizzle reels and PR shit saying exactly the same shit.

    Hell, even Nintendo had a dev saying how using Wii U was better than publishing on STEAM the other day…

    If you’ve got a game coming out on a system, you’d be a dick not to say how great xxx company was. Unless your Phill Fish obviously, and we all know how that ended up till Sony bailed his white ass out.

    #111 1 year ago
  112. Djoenz

    I just find it funny when all the rumours were spreading around about xboxone BEFORE tMicrosoft’s announcement of the console, people were like nah just rumours and cant be true etc..

    Then most of those rumours happened to be the truth and now some of those people are making rumours up on Sony’s front just for the sake of it it seems…

    Rumours were flying in and ppl were like until there is an official statement we dont believe it. Well newsflash if Sony did not put out an official statement about certain topics please apply the same principal.


    #112 1 year ago
  113. monkeygourmet


    Of course, I’m just more suspicious than you with regards to Sony. That’s all.

    I don’t really trust this was all in good nature when they weren’t really tested at any point. It was easy as pie all the way through, but yeah, that was down to MS being sucks monumental assholes with their unveiling.

    #113 1 year ago
  114. Djoenz

    Thats why I never buy consoles within first launch year let alone pre order :P

    I bought the ps3 slim very late tbh. You might have more knowledge about their pr than me.

    You have no idea how hard I laughed about ppl having their ps3 YLOD’ed and ppl having their xboxes RROD’ed.

    #114 1 year ago
  115. monkeygourmet


    I know what you mean, but i think these launches seem pretty good ‘game wise’ compared to some though.

    Main problem being: a lot of these games are multi platform and you can get them on PS3 / 360, plus stuff like GT6, GTA 5 etc…

    I’m usually good to go, if there are about 4 or so games I want on launch. Spread those out over about 6 months and the next wave starts coming…

    Well, that’s what I kept telling myself with Wii U! :) (at least it’s getting more stuff now!)

    #115 1 year ago
  116. Phoenixblight


    I bought an Xbox 360 2 years after launch and it RROD thankfully MS had that warranty that extended for 3 years for RROD Xboxes. I have had my Ps3 and it has yet to YLOD. If anyone is getting a launch device they would be moronic not to get a warranty. I always get one for 2 years for launch devices. No skin off my back. If the PS4 bricks I send it to AMazon and I get a new one no issue.

    #116 1 year ago

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