Showtime: PS4 rumoured at 1.84TF, Xbox 720 at 1.23TF

Interesting how this jives a little with the NowGamer source and report:

http://www.nowgamer.com/news/1769813/nextgen_xbox_720_will_be_more_powerful_than_ps4_report.html

Ultimately though, this is the best bit about upcoming hardware; all the insider dick slapping contests!

I really don’t know much about specs and what not, but i hope both systems will be very similar to eachother.

LEAK THAT STUFF ALREADY!

It’s coming. There are going to be some big stories in the next few weeks.

A videocard that will launch this year(8770). And how they will possibly keep the price low with such a thing? Even with its middle range it will cost at least $250-300.

If both systems are using an x86 architecture then this gives the PS4 a distinct advantage if it’s true. Then again, the RAM issue gives pause when it comes to integrating OS features while playing games and background stuff, which the 720 might have the advantage in. Very interesting.

The only thing to be sure of is the fact that the new systems are going to be producing graphical quality that is going to blow the minds of 90% of the people looking at it.

Whoop. Exciting Stuff.

People seem to forget that BOTH Xboxs so far have launched with current, up-to-date GPUs. Why would this gen be any different?

@1 Indeed. Let the fanboy wailing commence.

@6 We would have seen mindblowing gfx years ago if companies like Crytek and Epic were still doing games only on the PC. The mediocre hardware in the long life of the consoles slowed the gfx development to a crowl. But I am on the thesis that gfx are not so important and the industry must put more effort in the gameplay then measuring their dicks with gfxs.

No fanboy wars this gen please?

Just buy both and shut up ;P Quite excited for the next consoles

Sorry but comparing the teraflops in 2013 doesn’t really make any sense.

Especially for dedicated hardware.

I don’t know BULArmy, I agree to some point. But I think we are at the point of diminishing returns graphicly. And what I am afraid of is that super high end graphics mean super high end prices. Both in hardware but also in software, plus long dev cycles.

I think the fate of next gen won’t hinge on trip a games, but on smaller indie games that won’t be pushing graphic envelops anyways, and services. And ofc price.

If this is true, then there could actually be a distinct difference in the type of games we see on both consoles rather than a few exclusives and similar multiconsole games like this generation. That would make owning both consoles actually worth it at some point in the future in my opinion.

Teraflops means absolutely nothing. NOTHING for dedicated hardware.

8 Gb of Ram is already a much bigger advantage over PS4. Sony again did a mistake. So basically they will have a shitty OS again. 4 GB is the thing of the past, my previous PC had 8 GB of Ram and only 2-3 games used it at full capacity. The first was Metro 2033 but it’s 2013 already.

Microsoft knows exactly what will happen with their Windows Xbox OS so they upgraded it up to 8. Smart move.

Durango is apparently based on the Radeon HD 8770 GPU is actually really nice.

Sony is once again behind buying a costly CPU that will do absolutely nothing for gaming.

LMAO I just poster in the user thread on an article from Now Gamer saying otherwise. Who cares to be honest. Its all down to the games.

@10, 13

I think you’re both right. Smaller games that emphasize gameplay, story and music over eye-popping graphics are definitely getting bigger and will probably continue to grow. That said, the next Fallout/CoD/MoH/BF/Gran Turismo/Uncharted etc… those games are still gonna be the mega sellers (and the main course for console-war fanboys to argue over ).

But I definitely don’t think we’re at the point of diminishing returns. There’s a LOT of room for improvement.

Really odd how Nowgamer says the exact opposite.

http://www.nowgamer.com/news/1769813/nextgen_xbox_720_will_be_more_powerful_than_ps4_report.html

Report.

Basically Xbox successor is more powerfull. It will have better bus, higher memory speeds and extra rendering tech.

Sony, you lost. Get out of the industry. Thank you.

Although to be honest I’m probably more inclined to trust VG247 over Nowgamer.

@1
From the NowGamer article …
“On paper both systems are capable of 3.2TFlops of data, however the Oban blitter inside the Xbox 720 increases the speed at which data is transferred, meaning the Xbox Next is actually capable of 4.2TFlops.”

3.2TFlops of *data*?

That NowGamer source doesn’t look very reliable, to be honest.

http://misterxmedia.livejournal.com/113960.html

Ah jeez, now i don’t know what to believe. Because i read this article this morning too:

http://www.nowgamer.com/news/1769813/nextgen_xbox_720_will_be_more_powerful_than_ps4_report.html

@Erthazus – Don’t be so hyperbolic over rumours. Thank you.

Ah well, let’s just wait and see what turns out to be true and let’s hope none of the consoles will be at a real disadvantage and noticeable at that too.

@19
Can’t you just hold yourself? You have a great PC,alright. You don’t have to spray that all over us.
I find it interesting regardless of what happens in the end. And another thing is Erthazus is saying absolute nonsense. You see How iPhone with half the RAM and CPU cores matches and occasionally exceeds powerhouse Android boys? It’s not just about numbers

I think Nowgamer article is more reliable. Look, sony does not have a lot of money to support more then 4 GB of Ram or buying more efficient videocard.

It all makes sense. Microsoft wants to be the best next gen.

@26, phones =/= consoles. shut up. Okay?

Looks like someone might be having fun.

This article states Orbis is moe powerfull, Nowgamer states Durango is more powerfull.

@22 No it doesn’t but we have no idea what the source for this article was like either.

I run at 1.21 gigawatts!

I honestly really doubt MS would be at a huge disadvantage too with their new system. They won’t let that happen.

Strange thing is that people I know who are actually developing for next gen say that there’s not going to be a massive difference between them (based on target performance anyway). If they’re lying to me then I’m going to break their fingers.

@18 yeah I just read the now gamer article. I’m not sure VG247 has it right here. Their insider is adamant about the 720s technical superiority and custome SOC design.

@29 1.21 gigawatts? Great Scott!

Teraflops……*raises bullshit flag*

@27
Why should I shut up Erth? Bring solid reason for what you say. Where did you get your bachelor of everything hardware?

@Zohar, yeah VG24/7′s source seems extremely biased. Clearly a Microsoft agent. Thing is, they seem to be awfully confident about their facts.

That Nowgamer article is total BS.

@33:

Yeah. It’s all good until I get up to 88mph, though…

Sony’s apparent determination to cram 4k into the machine is, to me, the same mistake both companies made with trying to force 1080p graphics to run on a machine that couldn’t handle it, then upscale it with crappy results. Now we’ve got games that run at sub HD resolutions and get scaled up, and some of the games that do run native 1080 look kinda crappy.

oh yeah im saving my moneys!!! at E3 when i hear about the release date 2 months before i will start saving and not buying anything else i have no bills and save money all the time. this will actually be my first launch day haha bet my boss will come with me to get one

RAW POWER

Forget the Nowgamer article, it’s source is bs.

@11 – Of course there will be fanboy wars this coming gen. Back in elementary school, I used to make fun of the kids with Atari 2600 and Intellivision instead of Coleco, based on graphics. There will always be these wars, as long as there are more than one company making systems.

Looks to me like everybody’s running with off-the-record PR schtick.

“So, you can’t quote me on this, BUT…”

I think the console race would be a less interesting place without the fanboy wars to be honest.

Most of the banter is funny.

As for these new machines, like most people I want 60fps rather than loads more polygons.

My fave game of this gen was RDR and I don’t once remember thinking, ‘If only the graphics were better’.

A lot more goes into a good game than the graphics…but great ones don’t hurt either.

My piggy bank is filling up for release day!!! love this calm before the storm.

I suppose VG247 copy and pasting stuff from Gaf makes them more credible lol

@36 The Nowgamer source has extremely specific and detailed information which leads me to believe him over the VG247 article. I won’t believe anything until the facts are laid clear, but if I’m making my bets right now I’ll put my money on MS having the more powerful machine.

I’ll just repeat this for effect. The NowGamer article talks about 3.2TFlops of data. Teraflops of *DATA*. WTF does that even mean?

@45 – See for me, if the games still look like they can still done on PS3/360, there’s no reason for me to buy a new system. I’m not expecting a PS2-to-PS3 jump in graphics, but at the very least, a Saturn-to-Dreamcast jump.

@49 You should be expecting a PS2-PS3 quality improvement because it should be that much better or even moreso. GPU tech has gone through 4-5 generational leaps since the current gen systems came out. CPUs too.

Using Nvidia as a reference:

7-series (PS3 uses this) this card interface precedes PCI-Express -launched in 2005

G80 -8000 series -launched in 2006
G92 -9000 series -launched in 2008
GT200/Tesla -GTX/GTS nomenclature started here -launched in 2008
GF100/Fermi -4xx series -launched in 2010
GF100/Fermi -5xx series (more of a refresh/upgrade to the 4 series)
GK100/Keplar -6xx series – current gen yet still almost a year old – launched in 2012

So you can see that graphics technology developed in 2008 was already blowing the GPU inside the PS3 out of the water.