GOING LOCO: Hacker Hotz feels heat, hides in South America

HOLY SHIT LMAO!

Amazing.

Like to see the guys defending him comment on this, any change in opinions yet guys?

Is he gonna become Tarzan?

@4 George of the Jungle, naturally.

This might just be the new Gizmondo Ferrari crash.

Theres some actual footage of Hotz leaving the US here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ij3d26HkyXc

You can’t make this shit up can you?

Though to be honest, Sony should be slapped against the face for going this far against someone who is little more than a kid. The fact that he has done a runner is because he’s probably fucking scared and to far out of his depth to have a massive company trying to chuck him in jail or fine him millions of dollars before he’s even had a real chance to earn an honest penny in his life.

Am I the only one that thinks that Sony is going a bit over board here?

Honestly unless Geo has kiddie porn on his HDD, Sony is going to look like they are bullying him around. In my mind, if not GeoHotz, then someone else. Sony publicly claimed their system was unhackable. Thats like a challange to hackers. Someone would have cracked it.

I feel, at this point that Sony is going to destroy the kid trying to make him a scapegoat.

Imo this just makes Sony look bad.

“Get a backpack, a GPS phone and a machete, get into the rainforest and work on your defence from there…”
This made me lol

How’d you do it Bowden, How did you get Hotz out the country? We want answers dammit

This is just too much for him.

He is just a 17-18 year old boy that have a chance to be something more in the future then hacker.
It’s like cat trying to chase a bug.
It’s just too much. If someone from here don’t understand it he needs to grow up fast.

I hope Hotz wins.

I want my farking money back!

greedy Sony!

I want a TV drama made out of this. Is that too much to ask?

I think he did runned away because theres something else on his drives, that scare the hell out of him, maybe is related with this case, maybe dont, who knows, well at least he have the money he did rise from donations, at least he can live with for a short period of time, the only ones being f**ked up by this are the lawyers, me thinks they are not gonna get paid after all.

Now i will wait for the noerigian sue against sony in its latest developments, i hope to see the bully, being bullied also. is karma

I love how people are defending him in this article too LMAO. It states clearly in the user agreement that if you reverse engineer SONY’s product for piracy and other things they will SUE YOUR ASS INTO HELL!

Hey O.G. and Hunam do you think it was fair for M$ to sue and go after the guy who came out and told the truth about M$ rushing the XBOX360 to market ignoring the production flaws just so they could beat SONY to the market. 4 Xbox 360′s later and you still won’t get it O.G. So sad dude.

@12, Sony wants their money back too, Hotz cost them millions, that’s what this is all about.
I don’t really care who wins this case, this kid clearly knew what he was getting into but he kept on digging that grave & Sony ain’t no saint either but all of Sony’s decisions regarding the PS3 are understandable from a corporate point of view.

I can’t wait until next week when he turns up at Sony HQ decked out like Rambo and goes crazy-a-bonkers.

I’m glad, if Geohot wasn’t such a smug bastard I might feel sorry for him but alas not.

What good is this going to do ? The PS3′s doors are wide open and will never be shut, hunting down Geohot isn’t gonna change that fact. They should just stop with the whole thing, FFS.

I love Romancing The Stone… when the going gets tough indeed. lol

I’m not saying Sony shouldn’t do anything, they have to protect their IP and security, but trying to make an example of someone who is little more than a kid is going too far.

@TEA, In the UK, most of those ‘user agreements’ mean shit so I barely read them because most of what they state are illegal or my rights from the UK and Europe supersede them. Sony are just abusing their legal power to save face and are more than happy to ruin this kids life instead of just trying to get him warned/set straight.

As for the MS case (typing M$ makes you a tool btw) I don’t know anything about that. Got a link?

Both examples of corperate greed Tea. Both ugly. But, what will Sony gain from persuing Hotz? Lest MS was facing being counter sued in civil court for fruad. Sony faces … nothing. I wouldn’t be proud of either move if I was either company.

And Crysis can you show us how Sony lost million due to GeoHotz actions?

Gotta consider both Wii and xb360 have been wide open for a long time. Both of those systems sell pretty well if ya ask me.

See the thing about piracy that needs to be understood is that pirates don’t buy games. I have a brother inlaw that has a Wii cracked. He has about every VC game on it. And a handfull full blow Wii games, nope I don’t know how – but seen it. He does the samething with his iPhone. But don’t ever think for a second that he would have bought those games had he not had someone mod them for him.

Thats the way of it. Don’t buy into the corperate crap trap that claims that each and every game pirated is a lost sale.

I understand that companies need to protect their own. Thats where the security comes in. And yes it will get cracked. But not like those cracks are going to be on sale at your local Game store.

@16
stfu son!

Sony only wants your dick and balls

@13 and I want a new GTA game out of this

Only 23 posts before thread derailment?

Must try harder.

C-.

Well thats good for you but Hotz is in USA and unlike your barbaric country we have laws to protect peoples property from being vandalized and exploited at some thieves expense.

And of course you wouldn’t know anything about that because you’re blind to what “M$” does you XBOT. In your eyes they can’t do anything wrong. Everyone here knows you’re a dumb fuck for even saying SONY is being a bully when this kid made a rap video taunting them. I don’t know how you guys do it over there in your precious europa but steal my shit and watch I nuke every last one of you fucking euros to hell. SONY is doing the right thing…..setting an example for fuckers like you.

Gek will you do me the honor and present this fool with the link about M$ suing that guy who came out and told the truth about the RROD. The dumb fuck can’t seem to use google.

@22, Well I can’t prove anything without having a 20 minute browser search, I’m just assuming that piracy along could do it, I believe that Sony gets royalty payments of between $3-10 per game sold & I’m assuming that much more than a few thousand games have been pirated.

@23, You grow up please, having swear words (& letters?) in your sentences make you look like a childish tool, if you’re going to argue at least keep it as a debate & not turn it into a squabble like always.

@26, “The dumb fuck can’t seem to use google”
Well you’re asking someone else to link it for you
“Gek will you do me the honor and present this fool with the link”
-Waiting for the inevitable & unnecessary insults

Just because Sony is a big bad corporate doesn’t mean they are on the wrong track. I’m with them on this one.

And I like Romancing The Stone too.

“Well thats good for you but Hotz is in USA and unlike your barbaric country we have laws to protect peoples property from being vandalized and exploited at some thieves expense.”

Man their laws protect them(the people over the corperation) a lot better then ours due. Our laws are lobbied so hard by big corperate money that our rights get trampled on.

“Well thats good for you but Hotz is in USA and unlike your barbaric country we have laws to protect peoples property from being vandalized and exploited at some thieves expense.”

Barbaric country! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Says the one living in a country so fucking weak legally that every piece of software they own has more fucking rights than they do! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

You fucking idiot.

@26

That’s besides the point, you don’t see ‘Crosoft hunting down the hackers of its console, that’s a thing only Sony seems to be doing.

Like I said Crysis, I don’t believe that Sony will lose anything over what GeoHotz has done. the only major cost I see to Sony is in paying their lawyers to publicly exicute this kid.

#29 agree true indeed, nice read

@31, It may have something to do with the super expensive security system Sony developed to prevent this from happening & some little punk found an exploit & showed it to the world full of pirates & douchebags who get their jollies from destroying games & servers with their hacks-the later annoys me because it actually affects me.

It’s also funny how TEA thinks that every PS3 is sony’s property, and that someone was stolen. You are a fucking blind moron TEA, and if you read any thread about microsoft and the pc you’ll find me bitching about them before anyone even reads the fucking thread. You’ve not read what I’ve even said where I said sony have the right and should go after hotz, it’s just how far they are going, to the point where they put his life in danger over this stupid shit of a fucking games console.

@O.G.
“Both examples of corperate greed Tea. Both ugly. But, what will Sony gain from persuing Hotz”?

Corporate greed!? the fucking guy made a rap video taunting them to come after him. He single handedly took responsibility for releasing an exploit that many people could use to pirate games. DO you know how many XBOTS are out there like you who claim that the PS3 is shit and would love to never buy games for it but just download the exclusives and run and brag about it on XBOX LIVE?

Why do you only see things in one perspective man. This is no where close to being corporate greed unlike M$ releasing faulty hardware to beat SONY to market. A guy stood up and told the truth (which we all know anyway) and M$ is trying to sue him for that!? We now live in a world where the righteous are wrong?! Is that the kind of world you want your grandchildren to grow up in?

#35 Hunam Agree 100%, as Geo didnt saw the consecuences of his actions, neither is sony right now, i think sony is ruled by a bunch of very low level of grey matter people

@22 OG
“But not like those cracks are going to be on sale at your local Game store.”

Depends where you live. In HK R4 cards for the NDS are freely available in shopping centres. Shops will also happily mod your PSP and provide a memory stick with games on for a fee. It’s been driven a little more underground in recent years – 4 years ago you could get them in major malls, about a year ago it was more the smaller less flash shopping areas you needed to go to.

I do agree with the general sentiment that estimates of losses are overblown by corporations though.

@35, The physical hardware is yours, if you wanted to smash it with a hammer go ahead but the system & software is not, why is that SO hard to understand?

Not picking on your pov Crysis, really. But People were hacking online PS3 games long before GeoHotz did his thing.

While I’m not anyone’s side on this matter – the things I find amusing are that
1) People treat him like a kid. He’s turning 22 which can’t get you car insurance with great ease (because young males are the greatest liability for obvious reasons) but should be relatively mature to not want to desperately want attention unless you’re a c/z list celeb wannabe.
2)He obviously had planned on bailing the country which is why he sought paypal donations and then closed them saying he hit the required amount. I don’t think he actually hit any target for actual legal fees but just wanted money to pretty much bail. Exchange rates aren’t too bad now are they?
3)Both sides of the actual case have a lot of issues, yet people take sides.
4)Every discussion about this will ultimately end up with Godwin’s law proved over and over simply because of the Nazi connotations to running to South America.
5)What sort of lawyers would he have had? I mean right now the biggest crime he’s committed in a legal sense would be tampering with evidence. Seriously that’s just extremely stupid. Unless of course there was something there that was far more incriminating.

Regardless of any of that, this is truly worthy of popcorn.gif.

It doesn’t matter what losses amount to. STEALING IS STEALING the last time I checked. Hey assholes how about I copy a key to your house door and release it to everyone in the world. Don’t worry they won’t do any harm…they’ll just come in have sex with your wives, eat your food, watch tv, take a shower, and kick your dog in the stomach. That should be ok as long as they’re not stealing right?

@35, “The physical hardware is yours, if you wanted to smash it with a hammer go ahead but the system & software is not, why is that SO hard to understand”?

Because he’s a dumb fuck euro. They are a stupid species of human beings haven’t you figured that out yet and the fact that he’s a XBOT just make it worst.

@40, True, but things are noticeably worst, I remember playing AvP when it was new, top 100 scores were physically unreachable without spending (literally) a 100,000 years straight of non-stop playing.

swearing just makes u 10 year old fan boy and the wrong type of the fan boys to be exact .

Sony Is going to far with this one and if they continued to be that way they will lose the ppl’s love. so u do buy this thing to OWN it and to do whatever u want with it ( yea anything ) , but Sony says : ” U Buy this PS3 and we still control it from here ” . last time i checked hacking seems good to the Sales of that Platform and it maybe give the PS3 the edge to overrun the Sales of the X360 but it seems Sony doesn’t like that or they have another thing in their agenda. however Sony by this action is showing that it’s going more desperate and more when they send Hotz 1$ to prove that he was getting profit from hacking the thing … that kid is genius and instead of humiliating him and destroying his life they should hire him and cover the holes that was allover their system.that way no more money spent or wasted over a Far Going case … what next ” he is hiding his files in another computer of another kid in the other side of the earth ? ”

and fan boys please shutup cuz no one cares about what ever u say cuz u defend an humanless actions.

about the real news LOL South America really ? that Bs a has gone too far

@43, Stop being racist, American’s aren’t innocent you know, the legal system is actually broken over there (well more so than most developed countries), too many laws that contradict each other, everybody is suing anybody for anything.

Good point Doc, I was thinking more in terms of mainstreet NA and EU.

Tea, I just think the kid is a losser. I am not defending his actions, or his lack of character.

I am also not defending MS for the RRoD mess either.

As for the amount of xbox360 gamers that claim their PS3s are shit thing. I think thats a bit goofed up. Take a look:

If a gamer owns both systems and picks the one they like more, how is that somehow bad? How is that “wrong” choice? I mean they did buy the PS3 in the first place. I was Very excited when I brought my first PS3 home. But that excitment went away over time. I wanted to like it more, enjoy it more, play it more.

I didn’t buy it to hate on it, it was expensive afterall.

Also I think it is silly to think that because I play on xb360 that I want to hurt PS3. Again, I spent a fair amount on it.

Lets say I did(I wouldn’t of course) pirate every game on PS3. How much sales would Sony lose over that?

Zero. Why? Because I wouldn’t have bought those games anyways. I do, btw buy PS3 games now and then. Just saying.

I have a hard time believing that anyone who would buy a PS3 just to use a hack and pirate games wouldn’t also do the samething with a Wii and a XB360. I also doubt that such a person would have bought games for either of those systems in the first place.

Man in suffering burns after playing with fire shocker.

I mean we can debate the moral and even legal matters surrounding this until the cows come home, but the fact is, it was always beyond stupid to behave and act the way Hotz has done, whilst having his real identity known.

As much of a massive dick as I think he is, I’m saddened that somebody with the technical ability of Hotz has quite possibly ruined his life over this. As I understand it, he’s now guilty of tampering with evidence, which means he’s proper (jail time) fucked, regardless of the case Sony were/are building against him. Also, I wonder how much of the donation money he requested has gone into funding his getaway?

I’m genuinely off into town now to pick up a copy of Romancing The Stone, so cheers for that at least.

No need for the racism TEA seriously.

@50 TEA racism seriously?