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Famitsu gives Pokemon Black and White 40/40

Wednesday, 8th September 2010 12:53 GMT By Johnny Cullen

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That’s a four. And that’s a zero. Together, they make a big number called 40. That’s your maths lesson for the day.

Famitsu’s scored the latest Pokemon titles, Black and White, a full 40 out of 40.

The two got a total score of 10, 10, 10 and 10. That’s 40.

Those are big numbers. Just to repeat, that’s four tens. And four tens make 40.

Pokemon Black and White releases in Japan later this month for DS. It comes west next spring.

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  1. Hunam

    Hypemitsu strikes again!

    #1 4 years ago
  2. Erthazus

    Famitsu these days not a Famitsu back in a day. It’s now like IGN.

    AAA titles scores are from 9-10 (IGN: 8.9-10)

    I don’t think so that Pokemon Black and White is PERFECT. 40/40 in Famitsu means that the game is absolutely perfect in every aspect of it, from graphics to the gameplay.

    #2 4 years ago
  3. Happy Hardon Harry

    Halo/Halo 3 got Edge 10′s. Edge were clearly bribed in this case.

    No game is ever perfect, no matter how good it is, therefore no game should ever be awarded a perfect score.

    Pokemon Black is maybe a fantastic game, but a perfect score? I don’t think so.

    I’ve been gaming for 25 years and there is not one game i’d give a perfect score to, even the great games.

    #3 4 years ago
  4. OlderGamer

    Nothing against Poke’mon or the JP.

    But to call it like I see it, the JP games market truely isn’t compatible with the western market. I don’t think it ever going to change, at least not for a long time.

    Nothing wrong with poke’mon or the gamers that enjoy it.

    But when one JP game dev after another comes out and says the JP game devs are falling behind and that they face change or face being cut out, or whatever….this is a great example.

    Over here PM is for kids, and even most of those would rather play something a bit more mature. Over there PM is for the general gaming populace, and they are truely happy doing that.

    Just very very different tastes, thats ok of course, just saying.

    #4 4 years ago
  5. Eregol

    A maximum score doesn’t necessarily mean the game is perfect.
    It means that the game is the pinnacle of it’s chosen genre and is extremely good at what it does.

    Scores do not matter anyway, no matter how earnestly developers and distributors analyse metacritic scores.

    I’m more likely to be turned by the text included in the review rather than the score at the end.

    #5 4 years ago
  6. Eregol

    @Oldergamer
    Over here Pokemon is for kids?
    I’m from the UK, and I’m 28.
    I’m more than happy to play Pokemon. Because as a game series it’s frankly brilliant.
    Always perfectly balanced and highly playable.
    Many people I know will say the same.
    Just because of a cartoon show and a toy range doesn’t mean that a franchise is solely for kids.

    #6 4 years ago
  7. OlderGamer

    @6

    Your secreat is safe with us ;)

    j/k of course

    #7 4 years ago
  8. Broncanus

    @3 Don’t be silly…

    Movies are usually marked out of 5 stars. Are you saying that no movie should ever be given 5*? Hilarious how often stuff like this pops over… let’s get over it :)

    #8 4 years ago
  9. Happy Hardon Harry

    Broncanus said:
    September 8, 2010 at 1:22 pm
    @3 Don’t be silly…

    Movies are usually marked out of 5 stars. Are you saying that no movie should ever be given 5*? Hilarious how often stuff like this pops over… let’s get over it

    Don’t be an idiot! Scores shouldn’t exist in the first place, the quality of writing should be enough without the need for a number or rating at the end.

    #9 4 years ago
  10. DrDamn

    Review scores mean whatever the publication says they mean, *not* what you decide it means.

    #10 4 years ago
  11. Erthazus

    “A maximum score doesn’t necessarily mean the game is perfect.”

    You are blind? There is another score after 40?

    40/40 is perfect. That means that it is an absolute legend or masterpiece and everything is done right. Everything.
    If it was a pinnacle for the chosen genre and extremely good, than score could be from 35 to 39.

    “Scores do not matter anyway, no matter how earnestly developers and distributors analyse metacritic scores.”

    Matter a lot, it’s just our Gaming journalism is full of fanboys and kids. Just go to the metacritic and go see how much movies have scores. Even the pinnacle or masterpieces have scores like 80-90. That means something. but when you go to the metacritic, every AAA+ blockbuster have scores from 85-96

    @3 First of all, One reviewer in EDGE is not EDGE.

    #11 4 years ago
  12. Happy Hardon Harry

    @11

    Doesn’t matter, Edge is still shit…

    #12 4 years ago
  13. Bringit

    40/40 would mean it is one of the best games on the market.

    Not that it is the ‘perfect’ video game. How do you define perfection anyway?

    #13 4 years ago
  14. Isuru86

    Cant wait for a Video Review !

    Havent played Pokemans sind Blue/Red with Messigno that cheating Bitch !

    #14 4 years ago
  15. Hunam

    Levels of naivty in this thread are astounding.

    #15 4 years ago
  16. DrDamn

    @11
    Does 10/10 also mean it’s perfect?

    #16 4 years ago
  17. David Sarkisjan

    Perfection doesn’t exist. The universe exists because of this fact … so no, this game cannot be perfect by any means.

    #17 4 years ago
  18. Blerk

    40/40 doesn’t mean it’s perfect. It means Nintendo bought a hell of a lot of Famitsu advertising this month.

    #18 4 years ago
  19. DrDamn

    @18
    A perfect amount most likely :)

    #19 4 years ago
  20. JonFE

    @11:

    By your definition, no game whatsoever should ever be awarded full marks…

    #20 4 years ago
  21. G1GAHURTZ

    4+0=4

    #21 4 years ago
  22. OlderGamer

    @Blerk

    Yep, and exactly the same type of thing happens in Metacritic.

    The only reviews you should trust are your own and friends that you know.

    As far as PM goes, we pretty much know what to expect already. Not like it is going to change drasticly.

    If I was a fan of the game, i wouldn’t worry about reviews anyways. Its PM, get if you like PM.

    #22 4 years ago
  23. DaMan

    I can’t help but laugh at people saying Edge were bribed. LOL.

    also, Famitsu rate games based on how much they appeal to asian market. simple as that.

    #23 4 years ago
  24. Crysis

    This game has a perfect score, but perfection does not truley exist in a practical sense, therefore a game with perfect scores is not a perfect game, but a TOP game, atleast according to the reviewer, though everyone has different opinions, so a score is only an apporximate reccomndation, not a law or commandment to abibe by

    #24 4 years ago
  25. mington

    #25 4 years ago
  26. TerryWogan

    Who gives a fuck? They 40/40 pretty much every big Japanese RPG release.

    #26 4 years ago
  27. TerryWogan

    Oh, and for the love of god. The complete spastic who started the “perfect score” debate AGAIN, please boil your head. You idiot.

    #27 4 years ago
  28. Eregol

    A maximum score does not equal perfect.
    Simple as.

    #28 4 years ago
  29. Eregol

    10 – 10
    9 – 9
    8 – 8
    7 – 7
    6 – 6
    5 – 5
    4 – 4
    3 – 3
    2 – 2
    1 – 1

    That’s what scores mean.

    #29 4 years ago
  30. thefaulkness

    @28
    explain

    #30 4 years ago
  31. Blerk

    It’s a ‘top’ score, not a ‘perfect’ score. What’s the point in even having a top score if you don’t use it on occasion?

    #31 4 years ago
  32. Eregol

    Have you ever seen a film that’s been reviewed as 5/5 and come away from it and thought it was rubbish?
    There’s no such thing as a perfect score.
    It’s just a bloody number.
    A* is a maximum score on an exam, yet, you don’t have to answer all the questions.
    Maximum DOES NOT equal perfect.

    #32 4 years ago
  33. Crysis

    @27 doesn’t appear to have stopped, seems you’re the spastic for not realising that.

    #33 4 years ago
  34. thefaulkness

    2 things
    @26 they gave 40/40 for ssbb
    plus
    everybody seems to have constant orgasms over game scores. The idea of a review is to read it and see if the game will appeal to YOU. Video game reviewers (like any other critics) cant take every single persons views into account.

    #34 4 years ago
  35. mtmind2

    *Sigh*, we get this same argument every time a game gets a maximum score, and still there are gamers out there who can’t understand that a maximum score doesn’t mean perfection.

    For my views on the subject, read the following posts :)

    @5
    @8
    @10
    @13
    @16
    @28
    @31
    @32

    #35 4 years ago
  36. thefaulkness

    @32
    occasionally it can

    #36 4 years ago
  37. Eregol

    I’m on the verge of breaking out the ASCII art of the picard facepalm.
    Don’t make me do it.

    #37 4 years ago
  38. Tonka

    Proof in the pudding
    http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=ten+is+perfect&word2=ten+is+not+perfect

    #38 4 years ago
  39. Blerk

    Well that settles that, then. Thread over!

    #39 4 years ago
  40. Erthazus

    10 Is perfect. You can say what you want, but this is perfect because nothing can be higher than 10.

    Like in european schools where i learned. 10/10 means that you did a perfect and innovative job for your homework, thesis and e.t.c. where is no mistake. Design, creativity and everything else is perfect. Nothing can match this thing until something NEXT will come out and will beat that thing.

    There are games that deserve these scores.

    10 out of 10 – thats it. Thats just how the game should be done. Every promise is there, no glitches and e.t.c.
    9 – Brilliant, almost masterpiece
    8 – great
    7 – good
    6 – Ok

    and e.t.c. This how it must be or this is how reviewers do when they review Movies. Just look at the Meta scores.

    but if you look at the metacritic, almost every game is playable and enjoyable. It’s like Gaming is the best multimedia stuff in the world. Thats not true and you know it. You know how much games suck and only minority of them are worth your time (+ depends on your taste of course)
    Gamers this generation are spoiled brats. If you go to the forum or discussion thread it’s like: “OMG, TIS GAME HAZ 8.9, m not BUING!”

    #40 4 years ago
  41. Hunam

    11 is higher than 10.

    #41 4 years ago
  42. Erthazus

    @41 like metacritic or Famitsu have something beyond 10. right?

    #42 4 years ago
  43. Hunam

    I was being facitious.

    #43 4 years ago
  44. G1GAHURTZ

    Surely 10/10 means that it’s by far the best game available in it’s genre?

    Common sense dictates that games should usually keep improving on their prequels over time.

    I remember Total! magazine giving SMB3 on the NES 98% when such high scores were pretty rare.

    They had a problem when they had to review SMB Allstars, because it contained SMB1, 2 and 3, so they had to give it 99%

    The only problem with this is when you realise that you’ve only got 1% more to go, but probably at least one new Mario game every couple of years after that.

    [EDIT - I've just wiki'd the mag and discovered that they gave SM64 100%! lol!]

    The big problem now is that you get every Tom Dick and Harry reviewing games for any kind of operation that has advertising space to sell. ‘Wow! This game is new! 10/10!’

    That totally devalues the high scores and eventually you get people (myself included at times, I must admit, hehe…) considering games that score the 8s and 9s to be ‘good, but nowhere near pre-order-me-two-copies-insta-buy!!!’.

    So basically, I think while 10/10 should mean something completely reasonable, such as ‘best game in it’s genre so far’, these days it usually just means that the game is [click our ad here] one of the best.

    And by no means perfect.

    #44 4 years ago
  45. Erthazus

    @44 Agree with everything.

    “And by no means perfect.”

    But should be that way. I mean it was, except for now.

    #45 4 years ago
  46. Blerk

    But nothing is perfect. So nothing could ever get a 10.

    Best? Yes. Perfect? No.

    #46 4 years ago
  47. Gadzooks!

    1 – 0-10%
    2 – 11-20%
    .
    .
    .
    9 – 81-90%
    10 – 91-100%

    So 10/10 is not perfection, just means its in the top 10%.

    Anyway, great score but it means nothing coming from Famitsu.

    #47 4 years ago
  48. 2plus2equals5

    Oh please japan fanboys, perfect score for another copy-paste pokemon game?
    Do you know that annual sport games are criticized if they remain the same? And real sports don’ t change over years!

    #48 4 years ago
  49. Erthazus

    @47, 10 and 100% is perfection.
    These are different scores, but when you score 10, it’s 10. If it is not perfect make from it 9.1 to 9.9 what we see in 80% of blockbuster games with big names where some Mr Dickenson writes review.

    “But nothing is perfect”

    True. Nothing is perfect. But Mr Dickenson from IGN or other site can make it 10/10. So if it is not perfect there must be 9.9 right?

    #49 4 years ago
  50. Gadzooks!

    @49

    No.

    #50 4 years ago
  51. DrDamn

    @Erthazus
    “10 Is perfect.”

    Ah, nice contradiction. You said “If it was a pinnacle for the chosen genre and extremely good, than score could be from 35 to 39.”. To gain a score of 37, 38 or 39 from Famitsu one or more of the four reviewers would have to have given it a “perfect” score. How would that work?

    #51 4 years ago
  52. mtmind2

    @40. You insist that 10 is perfect, and you say that it means “Design, creativity and everything else is perfect. Nothing can match this thing until something NEXT will come out and will beat that thing”.

    But you also said “There are games that deserve these scores”.

    Great, so can you provide a list of those games which you believe at the time were perfect in every way where “Every promise is there, no glitches and e.t.c.”.

    Imo, no game meets your criteria for a perfect score, and yet you say there are such games.

    #52 4 years ago
  53. Erthazus

    @50 Of course, because you are stupid as always. Don’t have a decent comment never except of Invincible Tiger 3D thread. Awesome as usual.

    @52 “You insist that 10 is perfect, and you say that it means “Design, creativity and everything else is perfect. Nothing can match this thing until something NEXT will come out and will beat that thing”.”

    Absolutely. If someone’s work is perfect and can be beaten by other work with significant improvements and creativity, than why not?

    “Great, so can you provide a list of those games which you believe at the time were perfect”

    Like for example Super Mario Brothers and e.t.c. Thsi game is a legend.
    But now in most cases we have a lot of 90%-96% on meta and most of these games are forgotten.

    #53 4 years ago
  54. Eregol

    @53
    That post gets a [7]

    #54 4 years ago
  55. JonFE

    “Absolutely. If someone’s work is perfect and can be beaten by other work with significant improvements and creativity, than why not?”

    So, let me get this straight. Something can be perfect, yet can also be beaten by another work with significant improvements and creativity, right?

    Does this “something” deserve a 10 because it’s “perfect” or not? And, if so, how can it be “perfect” and deserve a 10 when it can also be improved upon?

    Same thing happens when you use different scale. Assuming that you award a near-perfect game 99% (or 9.9 as you put it) and then another near-perfect game is released, which is better that its predecessor but still not 100% perfect, what would you award it? 99% again? It does not reflect any improvements. 99.1%? It is silly, isn’t it? I’m sure you can see the contradiction.

    Don’t you feel it’s easier to accept that 10 can be awarded to a top game of its genre at the time of release than insisting that 10 should be awarded to an elusively perfect game?

    Reviews (game, movie, music or whatever) are not like school exams you know. There is no right or wrong answers involved, where ticking all the right ones gives you full marks.

    #55 4 years ago
  56. Eregol

    Scores are entirely subjective.
    Surely a perfect game would be one that is loved by every single person.
    Such a thing does not exist as everyone is different.
    everyone has a different idea of perfection, as such perfection can never truly exist.

    Now can we banish this crazy thought from our minds that a maximum score = perfection.

    #56 4 years ago
  57. Gadzooks!

    @53

    Tool.

    #57 4 years ago
  58. OlderGamer

    Sigh….G!GA, they just don’t listen.

    Spot on post at 44 tho.

    And it bares repeating MetaCritic means jack crap, well maybe a bit more then that, assuming they wouldn’t praise a game that had no merrits at all.

    But take all most all review scores with a grain of salt.

    #58 4 years ago
  59. Eregol

    Mmmm
    Slat grains.

    #59 4 years ago
  60. OlderGamer

    ;) @Eregol

    #60 4 years ago
  61. Eregol

    Gotta love that Edit button.

    Think how the world would be without it.

    #61 4 years ago
  62. G1GAHURTZ

    Thanks OG. Even though they almost never listen, we can but try…

    #62 4 years ago
  63. BlueOne

    i hate new pokemons =(

    #63 4 years ago