Tue, Mar 30, 2010 | 11:54 BST
Marks: Sony passed up Natal tech because “it didn’t enable many new experiences”

PlayStation R&D boss Richard Marks has said Sony passed up on motion control tech similar to Natal because it didn’t offer any “new experiences” compared to Move.
Speaking on The Engadget Show from a couple of weekends ago (via PlayStation Lifestyle), he said it would have made the firm’s existing tech “a little more robust,” but more expensive.
“We tried a lot of different 3D cameras. I love the 3D camera technology; personally, I like the technology part of it,” said Marks.
“We worked closely with our game teams at what it would enable, and it enabled making the things we already did with EyeToy more robust, but it didn’t really enable as many new experiences as what we were hoping it would enable, so it made the things we were already able to do a little bit more robust – which is good – but it adds a lot of cost and it didn’t enable some of the other experiences we wanted to achieve.”
After the talk with Marks, Move in its final form was shown off with a couple of demos: this was one of them. “Fucking cool” is an understatement.
Move is due out by fall. Natal will be out by the end of the year


17 comments
#1
frod
30/03/10, 12:01 pm
haha
nothing is more pathetic than this motion control PR war.
#2
Blerk
30/03/10, 12:03 pm
It didn’t enable many new experiences so they just decided to copy Nintendo instead?
#3
daytripper
30/03/10, 12:06 pm
is anyone else dreading the whole motion control across three platforms? i’m concerned for two reasons:
1. Sony and Microsoft may put too much attention on the casual market leaving the hardcore market that little bit weaker.
2.After a day at work if my girlfriend isnt round i usually watch a blu ray, tv show or ps3/xbox. Although I have a wii its gathering dust, i want to relax with a controller on my couch/bed, chill and enjoy games with a controller. I really hope the next batch of consoles still have controllers otherwise i’m out of it.
#4
frod
30/03/10, 12:10 pm
I’m looking forward to it. Total console apocalypse. The market is so fragmented now that it will shortly collapse in on itself and implode.
#5
Blerk
30/03/10, 12:11 pm
I can’t imagine either of them forgetting the hardcore. Too risky given that that’s practically all they have at the minute.
#6
SunKing
30/03/10, 12:17 pm
My spidey-sense says that it’s more about creating a perception of being competitive with Nintendo than actually being competitive with Nintendo. They’re just keeping up with the Joneses.
#7
Eregol
30/03/10, 12:22 pm
Umm
Nintendo turned it down too
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=232754
#8
2plus2equals5
30/03/10, 12:26 pm
Move seems to be good. I want to try playing fps with move!XD
#9
Dralen
30/03/10, 12:32 pm
Well…I for one hope this all epically fails on all fronts.
#10
justiceblob
30/03/10, 1:16 pm
Imteresting that both Sony and Nintendo have both come out and said they passed on Natal… that leads me to believe that they are:
a) scared of the looming threat and are already trying to dampen the flames
or
b) It really isn’t that good and Nintendo and Sony both like having their motion devices the way they are.
I’m veering towards B atm.
doesn’t this also mean that they have both investigated the tech, and know prety much all of MS’s secrets?
#11
DrDamn
30/03/10, 2:02 pm
@justiceblob
I’d kind of agree on b) – hearing lots of not so good things from those who have their hands on it. Though on the other hand if you were looking for one of the big three to take the tech forward from where Sony and Nintendo may have turned it down then MS is the one to do it.
#12
Erthazus
30/03/10, 2:12 pm
@10 Sony already tried Eye Toy with many games.
#13
justiceblob
30/03/10, 3:24 pm
@12 and look how great those games turn out ! xD
#14
Holesome
30/03/10, 5:25 pm
@10 or maybe they didn’t have the capability or dedicated technical staff needed to provide a working and viable solution at the time they were investigating it.
@10 or maybe their vision was short sighted and only wanted to focus on the now and easy solutions.
@10 or maybe they didn’t have the corporate and/or financial backing needed to see such a solution through. Remember originally Nintendo couldn’t even bring out Wii Motion+ and opted for the Wii Motion Controller because they couldn’t provide the better solution at a cost that the consumer would accept. As for Sony, they’ve lost so much money on the PS3 over the years they may not have investor backing to proceed with any new add-on technology with huge R&D costs possible requiring taking another loss just to get it to the market and them further into debt.
Their reaction is typical of competition trying to mute any up-and-coming PR hype that might go MS’s way come E3.
#15
mtmind2
30/03/10, 5:38 pm
@14 – Well said Holesome, you took the words right out of my mouth.
The other key point about Natal and other similar 3D cameras is that hardware is only half of it (and that’s the easy half), the other and more difficult part is the software, and that’s an area where MS are stronger than Sony and Nintendo, and therefore out of the three companies, MS are probably the best placed to make a 3D camera work, and work well, on a console.
#16
Anthorne
30/03/10, 7:17 pm
No its because Sony can’t think up new experiences, so they just copyed nintendo. hell they can’t even come up with a new name just ps1-ps2-ps3-ps4? And they call they handheld playstation portable, how imaginative.
#17
lovemoose
30/03/10, 8:55 pm
In other news, I’ve passed on sleeping with Angelina Jolie because she didn’t offer any “new experiences” compared with MrsMoose.