Marks: Sony passed up Natal tech because “it didn’t enable many new experiences”

Tuesday, 30th March 2010 11:54 GMT By Johnny Cullen


PlayStation R&D boss Richard Marks has said Sony passed up on motion control tech similar to Natal because it didn’t offer any “new experiences” compared to Move.

Speaking on The Engadget Show from a couple of weekends ago (via PlayStation Lifestyle), he said it would have made the firm’s existing tech “a little more robust,” but more expensive.

“We tried a lot of different 3D cameras. I love the 3D camera technology; personally, I like the technology part of it,” said Marks.

“We worked closely with our game teams at what it would enable, and it enabled making the things we already did with EyeToy more robust, but it didn’t really enable as many new experiences as what we were hoping it would enable, so it made the things we were already able to do a little bit more robust – which is good – but it adds a lot of cost and it didn’t enable some of the other experiences we wanted to achieve.”

After the talk with Marks, Move in its final form was shown off with a couple of demos: this was one of them. “Fucking cool” is an understatement.

Move is due out by fall. Natal will be out by the end of the year



  1. frod


    nothing is more pathetic than this motion control PR war.

    #1 5 years ago
  2. Blerk

    It didn’t enable many new experiences so they just decided to copy Nintendo instead? :-D

    #2 5 years ago
  3. daytripper

    is anyone else dreading the whole motion control across three platforms? i’m concerned for two reasons:

    1. Sony and Microsoft may put too much attention on the casual market leaving the hardcore market that little bit weaker.

    2.After a day at work if my girlfriend isnt round i usually watch a blu ray, tv show or ps3/xbox. Although I have a wii its gathering dust, i want to relax with a controller on my couch/bed, chill and enjoy games with a controller. I really hope the next batch of consoles still have controllers otherwise i’m out of it.

    #3 5 years ago
  4. frod

    I’m looking forward to it. Total console apocalypse. The market is so fragmented now that it will shortly collapse in on itself and implode.

    #4 5 years ago
  5. Blerk

    I can’t imagine either of them forgetting the hardcore. Too risky given that that’s practically all they have at the minute.

    #5 5 years ago
  6. SunKing

    My spidey-sense says that it’s more about creating a perception of being competitive with Nintendo than actually being competitive with Nintendo. They’re just keeping up with the Joneses.

    #6 5 years ago
  7. Eregol


    Nintendo turned it down too

    #7 5 years ago
  8. 2plus2equals5

    Move seems to be good. I want to try playing fps with move!XD

    #8 5 years ago
  9. Dralen

    Well…I for one hope this all epically fails on all fronts.

    #9 5 years ago
  10. justiceblob

    Imteresting that both Sony and Nintendo have both come out and said they passed on Natal… that leads me to believe that they are:
    a) scared of the looming threat and are already trying to dampen the flames
    b) It really isn’t that good and Nintendo and Sony both like having their motion devices the way they are.

    I’m veering towards B atm.

    doesn’t this also mean that they have both investigated the tech, and know prety much all of MS’s secrets?

    #10 5 years ago
  11. DrDamn

    I’d kind of agree on b) – hearing lots of not so good things from those who have their hands on it. Though on the other hand if you were looking for one of the big three to take the tech forward from where Sony and Nintendo may have turned it down then MS is the one to do it.

    #11 5 years ago
  12. Erthazus

    @10 Sony already tried Eye Toy with many games.

    #12 5 years ago
  13. justiceblob

    @12 and look how great those games turn out ! xD

    #13 5 years ago
  14. Holesome

    @10 or maybe they didn’t have the capability or dedicated technical staff needed to provide a working and viable solution at the time they were investigating it.

    @10 or maybe their vision was short sighted and only wanted to focus on the now and easy solutions.

    @10 or maybe they didn’t have the corporate and/or financial backing needed to see such a solution through. Remember originally Nintendo couldn’t even bring out Wii Motion+ and opted for the Wii Motion Controller because they couldn’t provide the better solution at a cost that the consumer would accept. As for Sony, they’ve lost so much money on the PS3 over the years they may not have investor backing to proceed with any new add-on technology with huge R&D costs possible requiring taking another loss just to get it to the market and them further into debt.

    Their reaction is typical of competition trying to mute any up-and-coming PR hype that might go MS’s way come E3.

    #14 5 years ago
  15. mtmind2

    @14 – Well said Holesome, you took the words right out of my mouth. :)

    The other key point about Natal and other similar 3D cameras is that hardware is only half of it (and that’s the easy half), the other and more difficult part is the software, and that’s an area where MS are stronger than Sony and Nintendo, and therefore out of the three companies, MS are probably the best placed to make a 3D camera work, and work well, on a console.

    #15 5 years ago
  16. Anthorne

    No its because Sony can’t think up new experiences, so they just copyed nintendo. hell they can’t even come up with a new name just ps1-ps2-ps3-ps4? And they call they handheld playstation portable, how imaginative.

    #16 5 years ago
  17. lovemoose

    In other news, I’ve passed on sleeping with Angelina Jolie because she didn’t offer any “new experiences” compared with MrsMoose.

    #17 5 years ago

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