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Rumour: Microsoft to announce Xbox One self-publishing at Build

Monday, 24th June 2013 17:41 GMT By Sherif Saed

Microsoft might be playing a little catch-up to Sony’s effort in helping indie-devs self-publish on its platform, if rumour is to be believed.

As noted on NeoGaf, Microsoft may be about to announce a self-publishing system for indies at its Build Developer Conference on Wednesday.

There are some interesting tweets from Notch, Supernnauation and others, suggesting something may be about to happen as regards making Xbox One more indie-friendly.

If true, Microsoft may be taking note of general calls to diversify Xbox One’s content.

The talk comes after Microsoft u-turned on a ton of Xbox One DRM policies and dropped the need for the console to make an online check-in every 24 hours.

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62 Comments

  1. Razor

    What sort of operation are MS running over there?

    This should have been sorted out and announced at the reveal.

    Still, good that it’s gonna happen.

    #1 2 years ago
  2. superjay779

    Looks like Microsoft is changing it’s ways.

    #2 2 years ago
  3. Lengendaryboss

    @1
    All this stuff is pre-planned, so i don’t see why not.

    #3 2 years ago
  4. polygem

    ms was superaggressive and tried to push their shit into the market with brute force. their all on one card tactic failed and now they just go with their backdoor plan b to try again later. don´t buy stuff from them right now. they do not deserve it.

    #4 2 years ago
  5. OlderGamer

    Poly +1

    MS have shown their true colors and their vision for tomorrow. Hard to trust them imo.

    #5 2 years ago
  6. ps3fanboy

    don’t worry guys it is only a rumour. there will be no self-publishing at micro$haft.

    #6 2 years ago
  7. CyberMarco

    Even if KH3 and FF-XV were XB1 exclusives (sacrilege btw), I still wouldn’t consider buying an XB1. I’m not saying that Sony is an angel, but in these days I would chose the lesser evil. Thank god those games aren’t exclusives though! :P

    #7 2 years ago
  8. dravenkaze

    why use that pic? i like my abe on ps4 only plz

    #8 2 years ago
  9. Lahanas

    All this talk about trust and not buy from them etc… Once again asolutely ridiculous, by people that continue to prove that gamers just cant be satisfied, are entitled, and ultimately dont know what they really want.

    It’s all about the games, and in this front, Microsoft has announced more stuff and more interesting stuff than Sony. Just buy the fucking console and enjoy the games.

    #9 2 years ago
  10. Lengendaryboss

    @8
    Technically it isn’t PS4 only, its coming to Wii U, PS Vita and other platforms (i think).

    #10 2 years ago
  11. Froseidon

    @9 – Its just people hating the fact that other people have different views to them and might like different consoles. I don’t go round telling them to not buy a PS4/XBO and then listing all its negative reasons. To be honest, I don’t think they should do that for the Xbox One. People buy and like what they want /end.

    #11 2 years ago
  12. Lengendaryboss

    @9
    Sigh so people should buy products from a company they do not trust? makes sense. They should support a company they do not trust? No way in hell i would, i am very certain the things we all hated at reveal will be in the console, sure patch that stuff out and then patch it in, most likely won’t happen but it could.
    “Microsoft has announced more stuff and more interesting stuff than Sony.” An opinion, someone could agree, someone could disagree.

    EDIT: Although i couldn’t care less what console people go for, if they enjoy it then more power to them.

    #12 2 years ago
  13. manamana

    Interesting stuff. What’s left of Microsoft’s plans, when they are done with copying Sony’s business strategies? I vote for: dropping Kinect and make it 389€.

    I don’t want to aggravate fanboy wars but I am turning my back against Microsoft more and more. One could argue that it’s actually (while still a rumour) a good thing and I agree, it’s good for indies to publish on as many devices possible. But Microsofts approach in this console-next-gen business is far from a clear vision of what a company seeks to accomplish in the gaming business. The lack of a clear and gamer friendly vision on one hand and the blatant imitation of it’s biggest competitor on the other, gets me really thinking what kind of strategy Microsoft is pursueing. They come across as a bunch of incompetent suits who seeks to be Apple in the gaming business but fail with all their devices and their strategies.

    Imitating is not leading. Microsoft isn’t leading. Apple didn’t force innovation, they charmed the consumer with it. Microsoft tries every other thing first and caves in only when it sees it’s stream of money at risk. They are all capitalistic coporations. That doesn’t necessarely mean, that they all treat the consumer the same way …

    #13 2 years ago
  14. js779

    @9 I agree with you up to the point where you say that Microsoft showed more interesting stuff. That’s subjective. I for my part think it’s the other way round. But everyone is entitled to his own preferences. – On topic: I guess Microsoft has to do it and would be really stupid not to do it. They will have their own indy program and so forth. If it’s better than what steam or playstation has to offer – well, we’ll see.

    #14 2 years ago
  15. pukem0n

    and again microsoft sees their errors and people criticise them for rethinking their policies.

    funny stuff

    #15 2 years ago
  16. Ireland Michael

    If this turns out to be true, then that will be great.

    #16 2 years ago
  17. PS4FANB0Y

    I think it is dumb to have 100% loyalty to a company. They don’t care about people, they care about profits. PS3 had some real classic games last generation, but I felt we never quite caught up to Xbox Live’s standard. All my friends had 360′s but I wanted Uncharted :)

    I hope Sony delivers this gen big time!

    If Sony does not deliver and MS does, you can call me XB1Fanboy!

    #17 2 years ago
  18. Froseidon

    @12 – I think he means for people to let it be and let people buy what they want, not try and tell others what to buy. Although the more I read it, it does sound a little Xbox pro.

    At the end of the day, people should just let it be, instead of ramming their choices down other’s throats.

    @13 – A vision a market doesn’t follow can be considered a failed vision. Sure its not what they wanted, but lets be fair, they know their old vision (they had it with the 360), so its not too far fetched to follow it

    Back to article: To be honest, I wouldn’t be amazed if this change comes out, MS will be changing a lot, seeing how they lost a lot of the market share with the XBO’s old iteration.

    Also, why the fuck are people so OTT on Indie Devs on consoles? Indie belongs on Steam/PC in my opinion. I didn’t buy a console to play £3 indie games on it. I buy a console for the AAA / higher quality games (not saying Indie games aren’t high quality, I just don’t see them standing up against fuller games like Lost Odyssey or The Last of Us). If I wanted indie, I would go on my laptop and log into Steam. It might just be me who’s like this, but seriously, what makes people want indie on consoles? I genuinely want to know.

    @17 – Holy shit, that’s pretty damn rational. Your name betrays you :P

    #18 2 years ago
  19. MCTJim

    I have no use for indie games on consoles…they are more like little “apps games” on tablets and smartphones.

    people should be a little more patient about plans for systems that are coming out. There is still 5.5 months till launch.

    #19 2 years ago
  20. For Blood

    Microsoft is playing third fiddle on their policies this coming generation.

    #20 2 years ago
  21. Beta

    Damage control anyone.. They tried to force the industry to change, saw that it was resulting in a lot of bad press and now seem to be speedily backtracking.

    If they cared about indies they would have allowed them to self publish in the first place.

    #21 2 years ago
  22. Froseidon

    @19 – Yeah, that’s another view I have on them. They’re there to pass that 10 minute car journey, not get involved into for 8 hours. The only indie game that really wowed me was Minecraft, and I barely consider that indie anymore, considering how deep it is.

    @21 – They care about money, just like Sony. If there is money in indie’s then they’d go there. At the end of the day, they’re a company, they care about their profit margins. All companies are the same.

    #22 2 years ago
  23. Machaira

    @13 – you do realize MS had a true indie platform on the 360 when Sony didn’t, right? :\ That platform has helped true indies (not smaller studios) make millions of dollars and allowed some to move into game dev full time. Where are the true indie success stories for PS3? I haven’t seen any. Feel free to share them.

    #23 2 years ago
  24. Lewis247

    I can’t believe they are turning back on all their original policies. Total fucking idiots honestly thought what they were doing was ok.

    #24 2 years ago
  25. laimis911

    #9Lahanas
    Microsofts exclusive games just crap except Forza and Halo ,others either crap or on PC so you can’t call them exclusives , half of their announced games are on PC or time limited for Xbox One which later will be on PS4 too . Fuck Xbox One . Sony are making and always made far better exclusive games ..

    #25 2 years ago
  26. Lengendaryboss

    @9 See @25 Subjective.

    #26 2 years ago
  27. TrickyAudio

    God almighty, another U turn?

    #27 2 years ago
  28. MCTJim

    @25 if you say so

    #28 2 years ago
  29. manamana

    @23 yes. And what I also recognized (since I have the 360 from day one) is, that the indie titles got shoved behind some other tiles to give place to more prominent publishers.

    But that is not what I meant. As I stated, I welcome the (rumoured) idea of Microsoft allowing indies to self publish. That’s what I wrote. There was no postive mention of PS3 or anything else in my comment.

    What matters to me is Microsofts approach. They could’ve launched their console half a year later, if all they wanted to do is imitating their biggest competitor.

    No, they had their visions, they had a shot, all what is left of it, is a ‘cloudy’ future.

    #29 2 years ago
  30. Silent Killer01

    It’s a trap!

    #30 2 years ago
  31. Machaira

    @29 – and the blame for “all what is left of it” is the short-sighted community and press and the MS bashers. :\ What they failed to realize in their “I want my used games” nonsense is that they were doing nothing to help themselves or the developers of these games, they were just helping GameStop and other companies that rely on used games sales, that’s all.

    #31 2 years ago
  32. MCTJim

    @31 I preferred MS’s original plan myself.

    #32 2 years ago
  33. ps3fanboy

    @30 LOL! -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piVnArp9ZE0

    #33 2 years ago
  34. DSB

    @13 I don’t know. Microsoft are making themselves look like bumbling fools, but I don’t see that as much different than Sony last generation. If anything Microsofts response time has been considerably lower.

    I still won’t be considering an Xbone unless they go the full 9, unbundling the Kinect and matching PS+, but I think they deserve a pat on the back for speedy handling of their fuck-ups.

    I really didn’t consider that a realistic possibility. I was 99% sure that they were gonna wait until just before launch when the numbers would be looking truly grim to fix their shit.

    #34 2 years ago
  35. laughing-gravy

    This is getting ridiculous now. Incompetence doesn’t even cover it.

    #35 2 years ago
  36. happydan

    @18, 19

    Wait, are you saying Oddworld: New ‘n’ Tasty is a casual game that belongs on iPad? What about Journey? Unfinished Swan? There’s an almost endless list of indie games that work great on consoles, and stack up against (and sometimes surpass) AAA games.

    DISCLAIMER: I work for OWI.

    #36 2 years ago
  37. Lengendaryboss

    @36
    No I think it is the perception that indie gaming is for short playthroughs and AAA gaming is long playthroughs: The former belongs on mobiles and latter belongs on dedicated handhelds and consoles. So stereotypes.

    Not my opinion.

    #37 2 years ago
  38. polygem

    @9,11: sorry guys but if you still cannot see what they tried to pull of there, if you can´t make the prism connection as well…i don´t know what to say anymore. to me that -i don´t care. it´s all about the games- attitude is “absolutely ridiculous” though. it´s right there in front of you. to me this is much bigger than “it´s all about the games” -if it isn´t for you: lucky you, i guess. i´d love to be that relaxed about transnational corps trying to take basic rights away from me and then dominate the market to dictate pricing and kill off independent and creative game development in the long run while spying on me with kinect to attract advertisers and while they´re at it why not sign some top secret nsa spy deals too.
    you think it´s all about the games huh? yeah it is. they abuse games. nothing i want to support.

    i am just shocked about ms´s supercrazy perfomance. i am (was) a xbox and a haloguy. i just try to not support shit wherever i can though- not only in gaming – and to me ms at the moment are just not “buyable”. not at all. imo, people need to say that loud and very clear.

    #38 2 years ago
  39. manamana

    @34 that is correct. But *because* Sony’s missteps with the PS3 launch and their arrogances, one could’ve expected that Microsoft would avoid the pitfalls of their biggest competitor. Beeing well prepared for the future, traversing from the comfortable and well established Xbox brand into a proper sequel.

    None of their visions or implementations have made the leap as of now. What’s left, is a more powerfull Xbox, bundled with Kinect. No more, no less. (Just like the PS4 in analogy to PS3) And it might be okay from a consumer point of view, coming holiday season, they can choose between nearly similar, great consoles.

    What’s left for me, is the bad taste left in my mouth, well knowing that if it wasn’t Sony and the gamers revolt and some Indie moanings around E3, Microsoft would have taken their visions into the livingroom of millions. Including DRM/24h check/no renting and no self-publishing for indipendent developers. That alone is, for me personally, enough to part with the Xbox brand.

    #39 2 years ago
  40. AyKKon

    Wait…. what? You mean, microsoft makes some bad decisions and everyone shouts and kicks that they are evil and should change their ways. And when they ACTUALLY do… you say they are imitating? They backtracked some of the most controversial decisions because (supposedly) they heard the gaming comunity and decided in their favour and STILL you bitch and moan? We gamers are indeed never happy and will always have something to complain about.

    The Xbox One was actually One step forward probably thinking a bit ahead of time with the so-called “draconian policies” just as they were about 11-12 years ago when they announced multiplayer gaming was paid on the Xbox. Now it’s just half a steo forward from the 360 just like the PS4 is half a step forward from the PS3. Gamers like to hate, and just like they hated on the PS3 in the beggining and when PSN was attacked they are now hating on the Xbox One.

    #40 2 years ago
  41. Froseidon

    @36/37 – I did say there was exceptions to the matter (I.e – Minecraft), but most indie games are short burst playing.

    I apologise for what is to follow, the language is rather blunt.
    @38 – Fuck the PRISM connection for god’s sake. Seriously, read up on it before you make the that stupid fucking connection. Its fucking stupid people are using it as a reason to not even look at the XBO. Facebook, Yahoo, Google, Microsoft do not promote it. They will work with it when the law asks, they have no choice, a warrant is a fucking warrant. Jesus, its not like the fucking government wants to spy on you playing Skyrim for 8 fucking hours. Its not like MS are recording your every move and it most certainly is not like they’re gonna send any sort of data off for the world to see. Sorry about the language but fuck me. People using PRISM as a reason makes me so fucking mad. It is the most brain-dead excuse I have ever seen.
    /end mad-ass rant.

    @40 – +1, no one is rational in the gaming community. Unfortunately.

    #41 2 years ago
  42. DSB

    @39 I totally agree, it’s been pretty impressive to watch.

    Microsoft basically came out of nowhere, selling 25 million consoles when Sony were moving 100 million plus, and then basically robbing Sony of their marketshare this generation.

    They were all set to build on that, and instead they pull this shit. It’s just amazing. The market was theirs for the taking.

    I’m unimpressed with Microsoft for a lot of reasons, from Windows to their shitty devices, but I’m really starting to think that the third console curse might actually be a thing.

    @41 PRISM is obviously aimed at communications. That’s what all those companies have in common. They all operate either e-mail or messenger services.

    #42 2 years ago
  43. polygem

    @41: prism is a very valid point but it´s only one part of the puzzle. it´s a red line crossed. you always have a choice. i explained to you what i have chosen. if you think this isn´t an issue. fine. i think it´s a severe fucking threat to democracy. yep, in that bold letters.

    #43 2 years ago
  44. Froseidon

    @42 – On the first point, yeah Microsoft did cock up, but still, I think they just jumped to the future too soon. If this was maybe 4-5 years later, then the XBO’s (old) features might be common place.

    On the second point, yeah I know, but what I meant by my rant is that they don’t give the information away unless the law asks. People use PRISM by saying that MS are always giving your information away, which isn’t true. People basically took one little point and laced it with a huge lie.

    #44 2 years ago
  45. manamana

    @44 you mean like PSPgo? Of course they are too early. And they needed to make the leap to digital more charming. What they choese to do was brute force.

    #45 2 years ago
  46. DSB

    @44 Clearly. People who think they aren’t being monitored just because they don’t buy an Xbox One are idiots. The NSAs ECHELON program has been common knowledge for quite some time, and the EU suspects that it’s capable of intercepting any unencrypted data across all communications media.

    An EU investigation into ECHELON recommends that all EU citizens use encrypted communications to avoid monitoring by the NSA.

    But really, for most of us, that’s just an inconvenience. I’m sure my data must’ve been collected by the NSA for at least 10+ years now, but somehow I doubt I’m interesting enough to be worth very many taxpayer dollars.

    Chicken little and what not.

    #46 2 years ago
  47. Froseidon

    @45 – Aye true, they did need to make it more charming. To be honest, I think they should have focused on the positives of their console more. They had the family sharing section, which they didn’t show off too much. Their reveal was a disaster. I wonder if it would have been viewed differently if their reveal actually focused on the DRM’s positives instead of TV and Sport.

    @46 – Exactly, its been taken out of proportion.

    #47 2 years ago
  48. PS4FANB0Y

    @18 I’m a fan not a blind follower like some people. The trash talk against MS is pretty childish with no real arguments. Just generic “we rule” crap.

    As far as exclusives… We have only really benefited from some 1st party exclusives. But Microsoft has been able to snatch a few 3rd exclusives. It’s a lil scary. I think Sony went too strong on Indie and forgot to grab some big boys too.

    But I’m still hoping for a Uncharted showing for PS4 :)

    #48 2 years ago
  49. Lengendaryboss

    @48
    PS3fanboy should act like you, seeing as you’re his big brother.

    #49 2 years ago
  50. Froseidon

    @48 – Yeah, I was thinking of transitioning from X360 to PS4, but I’m gonna wait it out first, see what other people I know get. There are some exclusives on the PS3 I’d like to have played and I hope some of them go onto the PS4 store.

    @49 – Children like to rebel.

    #50 2 years ago
  51. davesmightypants

    Come on guys use your brains AS IF this could be a uturn move as well?!!

    Things like this take careful planning, the correct infrastructure and tools. BUILD was always the place to announce something like this!

    #51 2 years ago
  52. Armitage Shanks

    I hope its true,really awesome news if so.

    #52 2 years ago
  53. harr0w

    If this happened it would please me no end not because im a MS fanboy but because that welsh fucking prick(no offence welsh peeps)on game-trailers marcus “c&*t” beers will be made to look like the uber sony fanboy that he is. Cant stand stand fucker.

    #53 2 years ago
  54. pandulce1

    The suits at Microsoft must be really pissed off about all the changes they’ve had to make. I can only imagine the countless meetings brainstorming so many awesome draconian “features”, only to toss them aside after getting their butts handed to them.

    @53 Marcus Beer doesn’t drink the company Kool-Aid and tells it like it is.

    #54 2 years ago
  55. salarta

    Technically, this is a good thing for consumers and developers. I say technically because Microsoft didn’t give a single shit about any of this until Sony dominated them and heavily outpaced them in preorders. Considering Microsoft was all for dicking over indies and consumers until the competition stepped in, this suggests to me that this is all just to make nice with consumers with hopes that they might dominate the market well enough to later institute all the uncaring, draconian bullshit they had in the works.

    But then, I’ve always expected that kind of behavior out of Microsoft. Which is why I’m never touching their consoles.

    #55 2 years ago
  56. LordDjinn

    @salarta you have given a very good and reasonably unbiased opinion. I agree with you 100%

    #56 2 years ago
  57. salarta

    @56: I’m biased against Microsoft, it’s just that Microsoft gave me legitimate reasons to be biased against them, especially after what they tried to pull with their DRM policies. I don’t believe for a second that they wouldn’t bring back everything they were going to pull with the XBox One and try to force it on the industry if they ever manage to dominate the market like they did with Windows for operating systems.

    #57 2 years ago
  58. DSB

    It should be pretty obvious that Microsoft won’t be bringing the DRM back at this point. They don’t just need to sell consoles at launch, they need to sell consoles for another 10 years.

    Reintroducing the dropped policies would completely ruin it for them.

    I think it’s well deserved that their brand is damaged now, but I don’t see any cause for paranoia. They already played those cards and they lost.

    #58 2 years ago
  59. Cose

    They didn’t copy anything. XNA and XBLA Indie Games existed in the X360 era already

    #59 2 years ago
  60. salarta

    @58: I’m referring to the long term when I talk about the possibility of Microsoft bringing those policies back. Certainly they won’t bring those policies back for this generation, but what about ten years from now or later, whenever they manage to dominate the console market? That is, of course, assuming they do.

    #60 2 years ago
  61. DSB

    @60 Yeah, who knows.

    Maybe I’m an optimist, but this has to leave a mark on the Xbox division. They went full retard on this one, and like others have said, basically wrote the book on how to screw up a launch. They should be horrified.

    Just some of the things that have been said. Nuclear submarines and “Thankfully we have a product for those people, it’s called the Xbox 360″.

    Don Mattrick now has zero credibility. I hope he’s replaced, and I hope they bring in some fresh faces so they can regroup and try to turn their nuclear submarine around.

    #61 2 years ago
  62. Kanok

    @61 I agree with you, because i think Don Mattrick sucked.

    #62 2 years ago

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