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Gran Turismo 6: a commitment to PS3′s installed base

Wednesday, 15 May 2013 21:23 GMT By Stephany Nunneley

During the Gran Turismo 15th anniversary event at Silverstone Circuit today, VG247′s Sam Clay posed a few questions to SCEE president Jim Ryan, such as why the Polyphony racer is heading to PS3 when PS4 is just around the bend.

According to Ryan, the franchise’s history is peppered with two releases per platform, each one excelling over the other in substantial ways.

“If you look at the differences between each game, Gran Turismo, GT2, GT3 and so on, the change is not incremental, it’s absolutely massive,” he said. “And I think it demonstrates a clear ability on the part of the developer to just get a lot more out of the platform towards the end of its lifecycle than at the beginning.

“I think Polyphony does it better than most, so while what we demonstrated today is still relatively early code, when the game ships before Christmas 2013 we’re very confident you’ll see the same sort of changes as previous entries between GT5 and GT6 as with each previous platform iteration.”

“It’s sort of a sense of unfinished business with PS3, and with a 70 million installed base to market to, it’s still very compelling.”

While PS4 wan’t announced as a platform, creator Kazunori Yamauchi teases IGN that the team has “a PlayStation 4 version in mind.” However, Ryan said for this holiday season, it’s all about PS3 and its current installed base.

“It’s sort of a sense of unfinished business with PS3, and with a 70 million installed base to market to, it’s still very compelling,” Ryan explained. “I think the other thing I would say is that PlayStation has demonstrated a track record in prolonging the life of its platforms.

“If you look at the amount of business we did on PS1 after PS2 was introduced, it was a lot. If you look at the amount of business we did on PS2 after PS3 was launched, it too was a lot and we definitely intend this to be the case with PS3 when PS4 comes out. It’s not just a GT6 story, because as a publisher in the year of launching PS4, we’ve got Beyond: Two Souls launching in October and now GT6 before Christmas, so there’s a clear minded strategy to prolong the life of PS3.”

An intelligent person would will look at a platform with an installed base of 70 million, in this case PS3, and an installed base with zero – PS4 – and “work out where the economic potential lies,” he said.

The acceleration of development with GT6 has a lot to do with Polyphony being more familiar with PS3′s architecture this time out, and where as there was a larger gap between the release of Gran Turismo 4 on PS2 and Gran Turismo 5 on PS3, that won’t be the case with GT6, says Ryan.

“That was obviously a generational jump where as GT5 and GT6 are created on the same platform,” he said. “It’s fairly known that PS3 wasn’t the easiest platform at the start of its life for a developer to get their teeth into, so the hiatus between GT4 and GT5 was perhaps longer than we would normally wish. There won’t be a similar gap with PS4 though.

Despite creator Kazunori Yamauchi teasing IGN that the team has “a PlayStation 4 version in mind,” this holiday season, GT6 is all about PS3 and its current installed base.

“We kind of looked back over the PS3 cycle, and it still has a lot of life in it, but equally there are a number of lessons we have learned from the way that platform was taken to market and principally, one of the things we have done differently is in the area of development architecture.”

Ryan reiterated that PS4 was “developer friendly,” and said everything Sony has heard so far is that it is so much easier to work with than its predecessor.

“We intended it to be that way and we are very pleased with it,” he said.

Ryan said the firm has nothing to announce regarding the series on Vita at this time, but the firm is constantly looking at various strategies for its IP. But as far as the app for the game coming to mobile, tablets and PC is concerned, it just allows the user to be in touch constantly with the GT6 experience, but it still won’t be available to play on those platforms.

Something else alluded to by Yamauchi on this topic, again to IGN in th elink above, was the possibility of progress being transferred from PS3 to future PS4 versions of the game, if it were to come out for the system.

Ryan also said the firm had nothing more to announce in way of content or extra content coming, as Yamauchi needs something else to discuss regarding the game during E3 and gamescom.

“We definitely have ambitions for DLC, and we really cut our teeth so to speak with extra content for GT5 with reasonable success,” he said. “I think we have the desire to take that to a whole new level. Sure, monetization is important, but it’s equally important to provide sustained, ongoing engagement from the consumer for months and months and months, so they feel wrapped up in this while GT thing.”

Ryan would not be drawn on specifics such as season passes, but did say the firm is looking at “a whole bunch of stuff, not just DLC.”

“The series is Kazunort’s baby, and we think we forged a very clear and unique identity with Gran Turismo,” Ryan stated. “It is the ultimate driving simulator and that’s where its heart is.

“The series is Kazunori’s baby, and we think we forged a very clear and unique identity with Gran Turismo. It is the ultimate driving simulator and that’s where its heart is.”

“We think there are areas where we can definitely make some improvements online with building communities, downloading streams, but are we going to siphon it off to different studios to create [spin offs]? – we never say never about anything, but that’s not on the rugmat.

“Gran Turismo is a premium game experience, and we need to make sure consumers get as much value with it as someone who pays €5 to play a racing game on the tablet. With this sustained engagement, it relies heavily on the online component and we think we can do that however the game is priced – and that decision hasn’t been made yet.

“We want to be able to look the consumer in the eye and say: ‘yes you are paying more for this than your tablet game, but we think the value is great, so you make your own mind up.’”

Gran Turismo 6 is out this holiday season on PS3 and a demo is slated for July.

You can look over our full report on the game along with the debit trailer and screens and re-watch the full reveal at your leisure through the links.

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21 Comments

  1. monkeygourmet

    So GT7 on PS4 innnnnnnnn 2018-2019…?!

    Christ, that would be mad…

    I really don’t hope to usher in 2020 getting my bronze licence on GT7 on PS4! o_O

    #1 2 years ago
  2. monkeygourmet

    “If you look at the differences between each game, Gran Turismo, GT2, GT3 and so on, the change is not incremental, it’s absolutely massive”

    I thought about 70% of the cars models in GT5 were from the PS2?

    So that is bollocks isn’t it?

    #2 2 years ago
  3. Lengendaryboss

    Great read Steph, definitely answers certain questions people have been asking.

    #3 2 years ago
  4. Joe Musashi

    @2 Yes. Your appraisal is 100% correct. The only changes in the games have been the number of cars featured. Nothing else whatsoever.

    JM

    #4 2 years ago
  5. monkeygourmet

    @4

    Instead of being snarky (although I wouldn’t want you to break the habit of a lifetime…), what sets GT5 away from previous versions.

    I’ve just seen people complaining about things like the car models and AI being almost directly ripped from the PS2 games…

    Bar the car damage that again, people complained was poorly implemented, what were the big changes?

    #5 2 years ago
  6. SlayerGT

    @5 “I’ve just seen people complaining about things like the car models and AI being almost directly ripped from the PS2 games…”

    You shouldn’t listen to people on the internet.

    #6 2 years ago
  7. Eddie Rodrigues

    @5 “I’ve just seen people complaining about things like the car models and AI being almost directly ripped from the PS2 games…”

    I have never heard of such arguments

    “Bar the car damage that again, people complained was poorly implemented, what were the big changes?”

    In the first updates it was really poor, but after 1.04 it was good, but nothing like Burnout

    “I thought about 70% of the cars models in GT5 were from the PS2?”

    It is a racing game you twat, what did you expect, Adidas Mobile 2040? It is a Sports game: it only adds, not fully remakes.

    #7 2 years ago
  8. zinc

    @5, What sets GT5 apart from previous installments? Install times mainly :D

    *joke* GT fans!

    :)

    #8 2 years ago
  9. monkeygourmet

    @6

    So that’s all rubbish?

    I have never played it but have read a fair bit about the launch and various reviews. I went Forza 3 then 4 because of the online driving community. I only remember a lot people being disappointed with GT5, after the big wait?

    #9 2 years ago
  10. monkeygourmet

    @8

    :D

    @7

    There’s a big difference between using the same car TYPES, and using the same car MODELS (graphics) as a PS2 game.

    If you have never heard any bad press about GT5 AI and inconsistent graphics, you must have had your head stuffed up your arse around launch time.

    I don’t give a shit if you automatically dislike my posts as soon as you see my name, but don’t lie to yourself just because owning your PS3 makes you feel like a big boy.

    #10 2 years ago
  11. Stephany Nunneley

    @3 Thanks! Sam did the asking, I just did the transcribing! :)

    #11 2 years ago
  12. Lengendaryboss

    @Steph thanks for the transcribing :D and Sam thanks for the info.

    #12 2 years ago
  13. Joe Musashi

    It’s remarkable that you would want to comment on snarkiness when your own contributions feature that tone and your recent ones above include such gems as:

    “you must have had your head stuffed up your arse”

    “I don’t give a shit if you automatically dislike my posts..

    My tone in #4 was intentionally heavy sarcasm. Subtle sarcasm would be lost on the internet. “Please understand”.

    JM

    #13 2 years ago
  14. tezzer1985

    @Steph & Sam, great read, and very informative.

    #14 2 years ago
  15. monkeygourmet

    @13

    What do you do when someone calls you a twat and refuses to address problems that are easily outlined by many on line driving game forums and communities? :)

    If anything I was mildly calling out Jim Ryan, not Eddie directly. He obviously worked on the game and it upset him though, hence him jumping to its defence.

    I only think of you of snarky because I only really see you comment or pull someone up on their behaviour. Rarely on a game or topic.

    I may be completly wrong about this though, it just seems that way. If it was indeed sarcastic then that always is hard to get across on a forum, and I read it with the wrong internal monologue… :)

    #15 2 years ago
  16. RocknRolla

    Why should I get this if I own GT 5 today? Because they changed physics of the game by 1.06 %. ? No thanks.. Make it for PS4 then we’ll talk ;)

    #16 2 years ago
  17. Joe Musashi

    @15 See, you’re still being snarky even in the response above. That’s why your concerns about snarkiness ring hollow.

    JM

    #17 2 years ago
  18. mkotechno

    I’m pretty sure It will be a both ps3 and ps4 title with cross online play.

    #18 2 years ago
  19. Lounds

    GRID was better than GT5, Codemasters know how to make a good game.
    GT2 was my favourite probably followed by GT3.

    #19 2 years ago
  20. Da Man

    Surely they are going to milk the ancient mess of technology and design for years now, no two ways about that.

    #20 2 years ago
  21. Ireland Michael

    More likely: “We started working on this game years ago, so changing format this late in production wouldn’t make financial sense”.

    Expect Gran Turismo 7 sometime in 2017.

    #21 2 years ago

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    Erron Black, the gunslinger which was outed for Mortal Kombat X in the achievements listing last week, was featured in the latest livestream from NetherRelam Studios yesterday evening. Along with gameplay, fatalities and variations for Black, the developer also provided a look at gameplay for: Ermac vs Mileena; Ermac’s brutality and fatality moves; Lui Kang […]

  • The Legend of Zelda Wii U: 2015 release not a “priority”, skipping E3

    The Legend of Zelda franchise producer Eiji Aonuma is featured in the latest video update on the status of The Legend of Zelda for Wii U, stating a 2015 release is no longer a “number one priority” for the team. While Aonuma never specifically says the game has been delayed into 2016, the announcement confirms […]

  • Destiny gameplay designer exits for Bethesda

    Destiny’s senior gameplay designer Josh Hamrick announced on Twitter overnight he would be leaving the company in a week’s time for Bethesda. Hamrick joined Bungie in 2009 after working two years at Midway Austin, where he created multiplayer maps, modified single-player levels, and other designer functions. He was in charge of fixing bug in code […]

  • What to expect from the Call of Duty Championship this weekend

    Just settling down to the Call of Duty Championship this weekend? Here’s a rundown of today’s matches and what else to expect over the next three days. The Call of Duty Championship is taking place in LA this weekend until Sunday, with 32 four-player teams battling it out for a prize pot of $1 million. […]

  • MLB 15 The Show video highlights improved graphics, updated grass patterns

    Sony has released a video for MLB 15 The Show which provides a look at graphical improvements made to the game. Along with the visual upgrade over MLB 14 The Show, the game contains new minor league stadiums, dynamic sun generated in real-time, and upgraded grass patterns which reflect each stadium’s unique look. MLB 15 […]

  • Valve to offer HTC Vive Developer Edition free to qualified developers

    Valve has said it will offer the HTC Vive Developer Edition for free to qualified developers in an effort to buoy projects before the tech launches commercially. Surgeon Simulator developer Bossa Studios and The Room studio Fireproof Games are just some of the developers which already have a free Vive in-hand. According to Valve’s Doug […]

  • DriveClub gameplay video features MotorStorm’s off-road buggies

    Some gameplay footage of MotorStorm’s off-road buggies in DriveClub has surfaced. Pictures of the buggies were shown on the Japanese PlayStation Blog earlier this month, which considering the game was developed by Evolution Studios – which developed MotorStorm – this isn’t too much of a surprise. The buggies were first spotted by Videogamer, which pulled […]

  • Mortal Kombat X live-action TV spot features the track Chop Suey

    The TV sport for Mortal Kombat X has been released, and not only does it contain a “spontaneous fight circle” taking over an entire city, but it features the System of a Down track Chop Suey. Mortal Kombat X will be released on PC, PlayStation 3, PS4, Xbox 360 and Xbox One April 14. The […]

  • Bloodborne Forbidden Woods progression bug caused by multiplayer summon

    A progression bug in Bloodborne is in the works, according to Sony and From Software. The issue occurs when players activate a multiplayer session in the Forbidden Woods using the Sinister Resonant Bell or Small Resonant Bell. It also appears the Lunarium Key won’t appear because of the multiplayer bug, and without the key you […]

  • Yo-Kai Watch game franchise has sold over 7 million copies

    The Yo-Kai Watch IP has sold over 7 million copies, according to developer Level-5. The figure included both physical and digital download sales. Yo-Kai Watch 3 will be unveiled during Level-5 Vision 2015 next month. The first title is in the works for the west but is still without a release window. Thanks, Gematsu.

  • Bloodborne trademark returned to Sony after accidentally losing it

    In case you were worried or anything, Sony has once again obtained the Bloodborne trademark. Earlier this week it was revealed that Sony mistakenly abandoned the Bloodborne trademark along with four others registered with US Patent and Trademark Office: Guns Up!, Kill Strain; How Games Were Made to Sound, and No Heroes Allows: No Puzzles […]

  • GTA 5 PC official trailer coming next week, 15 new screenshots released

    New PC screenshots of GTA 5 have been released along with word of a new trailer coming on Monday. The screens below are from the PC version and you can view them in 4K glory over on Rockstar Newswire. The PC version of GTA 5 releases on April 14.

  • PSN real-time server status page launching in Europe soon

    PlayStation users in Europe will soon have its own a PSN Service Status Indicator. It was released earlier this month in North America. The indicator makes it easier to check whether PlayStation services are down or running as planned. This includes account management, PlayStation Now, the store, social services, etc. Sony told Eurogamer the service […]

  • Exclusivity contract prevents Bioware from revealing Dragon Age: Inquisition DLC release on PS4

    Bioware is unable to discuss when the Jaws of Hakkon DLC for Dragon Age: Inquisition will arrive on platforms other than PC and Xbox One. According to various tweets from executive producer Mark Darrah, due to the exclusivity contract between EA and Microsoft, the studio is unable to announce a release date for PlayStation 3 […]

  • LEGO Batman 3 demo, Namco Museum, more added to North American eShop

    Nintendo has updated the North American end of the eShop with a demo for LEGO Batman 3, Namco Museum on Wii U Virtual Console, and various sales. Below is the full update. Nintendo eShop Dot Arcade – Wii U LEGO Ninjago – 3Ds LEGO Batman 3: Beyond Gotham Demo – Wii U Harvest Moon: The […]

  • Square Enix’s Easter Surprise bundle contains five mystery PC games

    Square Enix offering another mystery bundle to customers in the UK, which comes with five mystery PC games for £3.99. As before, customers will be unaware of the games they are purchasing in the mystery bundle, but the bundle contains triple-A titles worth £40 combined. One of Square’s previous mystery bundles contained Tomb Raider, Just […]

  • From Software’s PSone game Shadow Tower coming to PSN

    Shadow Tower, the first-person action-RPG developed for the original PlayStation by From Software, will be released on PlayStation Network. In the 1998 title, players took on the role of a mercenary who has returned home to the Holy Land of Zeptar to find the place has been sucked into the Underworld. He must use the […]

  • PlayStation TV gets price cut in the UK, now £44.99

    PlayStation TV has received a price cut in the UK. After several retailers started offering the console for less than the RRP of £84.99, users on DealSpwn began to wonder whether this is an official price cut, and not just regular deals or stock clearance. Sony later confirmed the new price of £44.99. “Starting from […]

  • Fast & Furious expansion for Forza Horizon 2 is now available, for free

    You can download Forza Horizon 2 expansion Fast & Furious starting right now. Forza Horizon 2 Presents Fast & Furious is available to download now through Xbox Live for Xbox One and Xbox 360. The expansion is standalone, so you don’t need to own Forza Horizon 2 to play it. It’s also free from now […]

  • Fire-based weapons come to PayDay 2 with the Butcher’s BBQ Pack

    The 20th DLC for PayDay 2, the Butcher’s BBQ Pack, is now available on Steam. The DLC will run you $4.99/€4.99 and features: Piglet Grenade Launcher, 12G Steakout Shotgun and Mk1 Flamethrower Molotov cocktails and incendiary ammo Four new masks, patterns, materials and achievements The Butcher’s BBQ Pack is another co-development between Overkill and Croatian […]

  • Lords of the Fallen developer offers Hideo Kojima a job

    Amid the current turmoil between Hideo Kojima and publisher Konami, one studio has offered the legendary designer a position. Lords of the Fallen developer Deck 13 took to Twitter to extend a job offer to Hideo Kojima. Dear Mr. @HIDEO_KOJIMA_EN In case you are currently searching, we have an open position as Head of Game […]

  • Destiny Xur update: should you buy MIDA Multi Tool?

    The question on every Destiny player’s lips today. And the answer, supplied by resident Destiny expert Paul Davies, is… Yes! We asked Paul whether or not he thought Xur’s Exotic weapon this week was worth the 23 Strange Coins. Here’s what he said: “It was already a great gun to own for PVP owing to […]

  • Final Fantasy 15 has an all-male cast to make it “more approachable”

    According to Final Fantasy 15 director Hajime Tabata, the main cast of the game is all-male because it makes the game “more approachable.” Final Fantasy 15 director Hajime Tabata spoke to Gamespot about the reason for his choice of making the core cast an all-male affair. “Speaking honestly, an all-male party feels almost more approachable […]

  • Hearthstone Blackrock Mountain is coming April 2

    Blizzard has given Hearthstone expansion Blackrock Mountain a solid release date. Hearthstone’s Blackrock Mountain adventure pack will be released April 2 in the Americas region, and April 3 in Europe, Korea, Taiwan, and China. Blackrock Depths is the first wing to be released, others will follow one week apart. Other than the 31 new cards, […]

  • Bloodborne: if you can’t load your save after installing firmware 2.50, this will help

    If you’re having issues loading your Bloodborne save after applying firmware update 2.50 to your PS4, this should help you out. Reddit user KBALLZZ encountered an issue after installing update 2.50 on his PlayStation 4. Bloodborne started reinstalling the day one patch again and when it was done he couldn’t continue his game or load […]

  • Use this code to get 10% off on PSN purchases

    Sony is offering a 10% discount coupon to anyone looking to buy games on PlayStation Store this weekend. Sony’s latest discount coupon code is here. You’ll receive 10% off your cart total when buying from the PSN Store. The offer is not valid on purchases made on PS Vita, PlayStation TV, PSP, or in-game stores. […]

  • Dark Souls 2: Scholar of the First Sin upgrade path announced, system specs revealed

    Dark Souls 2: Scholar of the First Sin will offer returning customers a chance to upgrade at a discounted price. Those who already own Dark Souls 2 on Steam and are interested in picking up the Scholar of the First Sin edition will be happy to know that publisher Bandai Namco is offering them an […]

  • Bloodborne: this is what happens when you have 40 Insight

    Insight is one of the currencies in Bloodborne, but it’s also a mechanic that affects the gameplay. There are MASSIVE SPOILERS below, so turn back now or one of Bloodborne’s gameplay mechanics will be SPOILED for you. Just like Blood Echoes in Bloodborne, Insight is used to purchase certain items from vendors in the game. […]

  • Phase two of Xbox One April update brings voice messages, dedicated servers for party chat, more

    The second phase of the April update for Xbox One is now open to members of the Preview programme and and it looks like there are even more features in store. Phase one of Xbox One’s April firmware update started a few days ago with improvements to party chat and achievements notifications. Today, phase two […]

  • GTA 5′s graphical “downgrade” is a bug, will be fixed in upcoming patch

    As of patch 1.8 for GTA 5 on PlayStation 4 and Xbox One, a few graphical issues have cropped up leading some to believe there has been a stealth downgrade to the game’s overall graphics. Over the past couple of days, Reddit went nuts over a video showing what appears to be a downgrade to […]

  • Destiny: Xur location and inventory for March 27, 28 – MIDA Multi-Tool edition

    Xur: Agent of the Nine has arrived at The Tower in Destiny to rid you of your Strange Coins. Xur: Agent of the Nine has once again made it to Destiny’s Tower to sell you Exotic weapons and gear in exchange for Strange Coins and Motes of Light. For this weekend, Xur can be found […]

  • Destiny vault space upgrade will have enough room for every Exotic

    Destiny is finally getting the vault space upgrade players have been begging for almost since launch week. Destiny players can currently use vault space to store 20 pieces of amour, 20 weapons and 20 general item stacks. In the latest Bungle Weekly Update, the developer revealed that as of patch 1.1.2, due before House of […]

  • Half-Life 2: Update mod applies some sparkle to the original title

    Half-Life 2: Update will be available tomorrow, and thanks to the modding community, those who own the vanilla version of the game can apply a visual update to the 2004 title. The comparison video shows you the differences between the original version, and the version with Half-Life 2: Update applied. Here’s what the mod includes: […]

  • Neverwinter MMO can now be pre-downloaded on Xbox One

    You can now pre-download the free-to-play Neverwinter MMO on Xbox One. The game launches on March 31, but you will still need an Xbox Live Gold account to play it. Based on the Dungeons & Dragons franchise, the game can be downloaded from the Xbox Store.

  • Destiny of Spirits will go offline starting next month

    Sony will be ending service for Destiny of Spirits starting next month, Sony has announced. The free-to-play Destiny of Spirits was released in late March 2014 on Vita, and tasked players with collecting supernatural forces appropriate to their geographical location, and then trading them with others online. Gravity Rush spirits were added to the game […]

  • MotoGP 15 is out this spring on PC, last and current-gen consoles

    MotoGP 15 will be released in June on PC, PlayStation 3, PS4, Xbox 360 and Xbox One, Milestone has announced. Bike, rider and team customization are part of the latest release in the franchise, along with time-trials and enhanced career options. The game features over 20 bike models divided into three classes: MotoGP, Moto 2 […]

  • Cities: Skylines players should check out Nakatomi Plaza and Wayne Enterprises

    Nakatomi Plaza and Wayne Enterprises can now be yours in Cities: Skylines. Die Hard fans will be familiar with Nakatomi Plaza. Those who have never watched the first film and live in Los Angeles know it by its real-life name, FOX Plaza. It was created by Enos Shenk and is available through Steamworks. Those who […]

  • Call of Duty franchise has sold 175M copies, players have thrown 300B grenades

    With the Call of Duty Championship kicking off tomorrow, Activision has sent over a series infographic full of interesting figures such as the number of copies sold over 10 years and how many grenades players have tossed. According to the stats below, the Call of Duty franchise has sold 175 million copies across all platforms […]