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Sony on going first next-gen: “It’s about being the best”

Wednesday, 6th June 2012 11:44 GMT By Johnny Cullen

It’s not about going first in the next-gen cycle, according to SCEA boss Jack Tretton, but rather just to be “the best”.

VG247′s previously been told that Sony has been aiming for a next-gen launch ahead of Microsoft. But the Sony US boss said it’s not about being first.

“We’ve never been first. We’ve never been cheapest. It’s about being the best,” Tretton told Geoff Keighley in a GTTV interview.

“If you can build a better machine and it’s going to come out a little bit later, that’s better than rushing something to market that’s going to run out of gas for the long term.

“In a perfect world you want the best machine that ships first that’s cheapest. But the number one goal is to be the best machine and that’s what we’re always focused on.”

When asked on the status of supposed PS3 exclusive Agent from Rockstar, a game Tretton announced at E3 three years ago, quote of the show emerged.

“You couldn’t have said it better when you said Agent from Rockstar. I work for Sony Computer Entertainment. The second I start working for Rockstar, I’ll have some definitive information for you on Agent.”

Good work, Jack. Catch up on Sony at E3 here.

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107 Comments

  1. Lord Gremlin

    Makes a lot of sense. MS launched weaker 360 a year earlier and right now nothing on 360 graphically comes even close to PS3 exclusives (and multiplatform finally evened out).
    But whole year is too big of advantage.

    #1 3 years ago
  2. polygem

    i can still see some potential for a year, maybe even 2 for the ps3. i really do. as much as i liked my 360…it feels old and dated now, slim and dashboard and kinect are trying their best to cover that with multiple layers of make up…still fall/ winter 2013 is a must for the next ms console imho. overdue already.

    #2 3 years ago
  3. daytripper

    I like Tretton, he has said some things in the past that have dumbfounded me but with regards to him there is more positive than negative.

    I think his interview with Geoff Keighley, he made a great point in saying Sony knew getting third party exclusives this generation was more difficult as costs for developing games go up so they invested more in first party studios which I think will really benefit them in the years to come.

    #3 3 years ago
  4. G1GAHURTZ

    Captain obvious is obvious.

    #4 3 years ago
  5. loveaya

    SONY should’ve regret launching PS3 later than X360

    #5 3 years ago
  6. Da Man

    Yeah, nothing on 360 comes close to corridor shooters with one enemy on screen.

    Teh Cell and teh blu-ray will lead us to victory!

    #6 3 years ago
  7. Pytox

    ^^ lol

    #7 3 years ago
  8. Joe Musashi

    @5 Sony couldn’t really go any earlier in the current gen as Blu Ray was their trojan horse and was holding PS3 manufacturing back.

    @6 Give it a rest, there’s a good fellow. You’ve become precisely the type of character you show such distaste for.

    JM

    #8 3 years ago
  9. Pytox

    btw: Where was Kevin Butler????? :x

    #9 3 years ago
  10. Da Man

    Cry me a river, #8 hypocrite.

    Google vaseline, he who has many faces.

    You’re off, I have a distaste for hypocritical douchebags who have 5 alt accounts.

    #10 3 years ago
  11. Gekidami

    lol

    -Comes in teary-eyed, full of fanboy rage because someone said the PS3 was better than the 360.

    -Says everyone else is butt hurt.

    Classic.

    #11 3 years ago
  12. Da Man

    Oh dear.. Rage?? Really, you silly crazy zealot, appearing minutes after one critical comment on Sony, telling me I ‘m raging.

    Where were you when all those anti-MS drivels were around? Classic indeed.

    So anyway, first they say they never go first, then they say it would be a massive mistake to not go first.. Now they say it doesnt matter.. Go figure.

    #12 3 years ago
  13. absolutezero

    Jokes on you, hes just pretending.

    #13 3 years ago
  14. Gekidami

    lol

    -Says i show up minutes after one critical comment about Sony.

    -Showed up crying, minutes after one critical comment about Microsoft.

    Classic hypocrisy.

    #14 3 years ago
  15. Da Man

    Not minutes, there was a whopping half an hour.

    Besides me being a hypocrite (theoretically, mind you) doesn’t take away the fact that you’re the one..

    Use your head, not blu-ray, brah.

    #15 3 years ago
  16. Joe Musashi

    Hypocrisy:

    Complaining about alt accounts.

    Being an ally and defender of a repeatedly banned user who makes jokes about incest and homophobia – who has at least 4 alt accounts.

    JM

    #16 3 years ago
  17. Da Man

    He doesn’t realize what he’s doing, so anyway. Others do.

    That’s why.

    #17 3 years ago
  18. Gekidami

    lol

    -Shows utter hypocrisy three times on a single article.

    -Admits he’s a hypocrite (but throws in “theoretically” for good measure).

    -”NO! U R!” Says others are hypocrites.

    Da’Hypocrite’Man

    -“He doesn’t realize what he’s doing, so anyway. Others do.”

    http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/101/781/Y0UJC.png

    #18 3 years ago
  19. Joe Musashi

    @17 He does, because he was told when he got banned and he then commented on those reasons. Even then, ignorance is not an excuse.

    Either way, those excuses don’t take anything away from the fact that you’re still a hypocrite.

    You behave in exactly the manner you berate others for. You’ve actually become a parody of yourself. The sort of parody that isn’t funny, sadly.

    JM

    #19 3 years ago
  20. Gekidami

    ^ He’s VG247′s very own meme.

    #20 3 years ago
  21. Christopher Jack

    @Da Man, You used to be a more positive poster but lately everything you’ve written is filled with a 4chan level of trolling to the point you derail threads in the attempt of trying to harm ones credibility. Who gives a fuck that Gek prefers PlayStation over Xbox, get over it, he doesn’t have to be 100% bias but at least he’s been relatively civil about it.

    #21 3 years ago
  22. TheBlackHole

    Back on topic… there’s a very good argument to suggest that one of the main reasons MS has been able to catch/surpass Sony’s market share this gen is precisely because it was out 12 months earlier. Also, as one user stated above, it’s taken a LONG time for multiplat releases to reach parity across systems.

    I think Sony would do well not to make the same mistakes again.

    #22 3 years ago
  23. Da Man

    I was talking hypothetically. Learn to read, genius.

    #19 – You seem to have trouble understanding what I said. He doesn’t realize what’s wrong with that. Besides seems like LGBT notions go above anything these days, show me where he used at as a derogatory one against homosexuals. Go right ahead.

    Anyway, you who has many faces. We can do this all day, you’ve convinced me a long time ago. Too bad I still criticize Sony, and you still post pointless remarks.

    #21 – Okay, I’ll think about that. You’re probably right.

    #23 3 years ago
  24. ManuOtaku

    “In a perfect world you want the best machine that ships first that’s cheapest. But the number one goal is to be the best machine and that’s what we’re always focused on.”

    I find this pretty alarming if you ask me, how much it will cost then?, dont tell me i will need to have four works to get one again, please, make it powerfull enough but also affordable too, it is for your best interest, and for consumers as well.

    #24 3 years ago
  25. Erthazus

    “Yeah, nothing on 360 comes close to corridor shooters with one enemy on screen.”

    Yeah, cause it is much better to play Unreal tournament and Tribes bastard child that is in 720p after 6 years (!) finally (!) with green static jungles (that are basically walls aka corridor shooter) + zero mechanics for noobs that can’t shoot shit. Well, at least there are pink gay space marines.

    Lawl.

    #25 3 years ago
  26. Gekidami

    @22
    I dont really think Sony care much that MS has a bigger L2D number to show, in the end they’re probably more bothered about sales since their console actually came out, and globally Sony have managed to outsell the 360 since. Enough to render a 6 million gap (the 360′s sales before the PS3 came out) into a 2 million one.

    The multiplat parity (or lack thereof) was mainly because it was fucking hard to make stuff on PS3, so devs made them on 360 and ported them (poorly). I’d assume the same would have happened if the PS3 came out first, except the first PS3 games would have been a lot more stable up in till devs got their hands on the easier to use 360.

    #26 3 years ago
  27. Da Man

    Erthazus:

    1) http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-halo-reach-tech-analysis-article?page=2

    Reach was in native 720p years ago.

    2) Marathon came before and Ut was largely influenced by it.

    3)When you first came to this website you didn’t know ‘Tribes’ existed.

    You’re an idiot..

    By the way..

    Quote Erthazus: Well, at least there are pink gay space marines.
    I’m pretty sure 26 years old is enough to be responsible for statements like those..

    I wonder why our infamous poster doesn’t mind that.

    #27 3 years ago
  28. Joe Musashi

    Lashing out, insisting nobody understands what you actually said is actually your problem. Not anyone elses.

    If nobody understands you, it’s not that you’re so amazingly intellectually superior as your rampant posturing suggests, it’s because you persistently fail to articulate your point in a manner that can be distinguished from petulant rage and bitterness.

    JM

    PS: Hypocrisy is endorsing homophobic comments from one person whilst condoning them from another.

    #28 3 years ago
  29. Da Man

    The irony..

    Thanks for proving my point, keep on typing those.

    I think it doesn’t take a genius to figure out that you selectively attack and hunt posters, based on their attitude towards Sony. Pink gay space marines right there btw.

    show me where he used at as a derogatory one against homosexuals. Go right ahead.
    ?
    You were talking homophobia. I’m still waiting.

    PS: Hypocrisy is endorsing homophobic comments from one person whilst condoning them from another.

    Ignoring homophobic comment from one user, whilst repeatedly hunting another. What does that sound like?

    #29 3 years ago
  30. DrDamn

    @22
    Last time MS *needed* to be first, this time – not so much. They’ve built up a good base now.

    On the whole which is better? Better is very much a perspective thing, what do you value. What games do you enjoy? On a technical level better is only really comparable with multi-platform releases and the time it has taken to get to the current situation is telling. The PS3 may have some theoretical advantages, but if it can only demonstrate those in exclusive title built around those advantages then it doesn’t matter so much does it?

    #30 3 years ago
  31. Joe Musashi

    I think you need to read what you’re accusing others of and see just how closely your own behaviour fits into those accusations.

    JM

    Response to (first) stealth edit: No need to show you the homophobic comments. The fact the user was banned for them is evidence of them.

    #31 3 years ago
  32. Da Man

    Righty..

    DM

    Edit – it wasn’t stealth, and it wasn’t edit. Your schizophrenia became overactive again. It was after you added the stealth P.S. You.. massive weirdo.

    #32 3 years ago
  33. G1GAHURTZ

    I think you need to jog on, Joe Musashi.

    JM

    #33 3 years ago
  34. Erthazus

    @Retard Man,

    “Reach was in native 720p years ago.”

    RETARD, 1152 x 720 is not 1280 x 720 aka true 720p. Go whine in Bungie forums about “Native resolution”. There are a lot of topics about that. :D

    “2) Marathon came before and Ut was largely influenced by it.”

    Cause Marathon has nothing to do with UT idiot. You never even played proper UT game to say something like this.

    “3)When you first came to this website you didn’t know ‘Tribes’ existed.”

    Link or it never happened. I played Tribes before you even knew that PC gaming existed.

    Don’t worry, your favorite crappy corridor UT and Tribes bastard child with gay space marines will come out soon. Kids can’t wait for it too. :D

    #34 3 years ago
  35. Moonwalker1982

    Only games like Uncharted, Killzone and The last of us show the true power of PS3 and i haven’t seen anything on 360 that is exactly like that. But as for multiplatform, for a long time 360 was better in this and i still believe it is with some games. And Halo 4 says hi, damn impressive for this old hardware. Jack Tretton says its about being the best, well you certainly weren’t with PS3, that’s for sure.

    #35 3 years ago
  36. Da Man

    quote
    Native resolution for the game remains as per the alpha and beta code we previously analysed – 1152×720, with just a mild horizontal scaling up to 1280 pixels wide that is extremely difficult to detect by eye in most circumstances.

    Erthazus, you have zero authority to make statements like those when you ‘re yet to play the aforementioned video game.

    Marathon, alongside Quake equally influenced Ut. Ut is, in your own idiotic word, a ‘bastard child’ of those.

    ——

    http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=4571#post-21913
    quote myself: … as Tribes inspired Halo …
    quote erzaidiot: Tribes didn’t inspired Halo (or inspiration was super small). It

    Also, Halo has massive open environments with lots of enemies, each with separate impressive AI, unlike pos like Battlefield or Killzone.

    Erthazus, you’re so desperate, so insecure and so stupid, it’s possible that you’re the worst toy zealot ever created. Seek help and get a life, time is running out, fool.

    You never heard about Marathon. and neither you knew anything about Starsiege Tribes until you appeared here, ironically. You came to educate and was schooled. Repeatedly. And you have no idea about anything you cry about, from perestroika to halo.

    Haloperidol, fast.

    #36 3 years ago
  37. lexph3re

    Correction The Last of Us, GoW3,Uncharted, Killzone, Infamous, Heavy rain, and now Beyond.lol I personally hope 3rd party devs start taking notes from Sony’s tactics. I would love to see an AC game or anything else follow these design patterns. Like in dead space 2 how you can tell they took notes from Uncharted. Heck I think they even said that in a dev diary before.

    #37 3 years ago
  38. daytripper

    @26 True however with multiplats I think with some gamers especially those who own more than console it could come down to what you prefer playing on more, which for me at the moment is the Xbox, for the controller, Live and so forth. That could easily change next generation, it’s all about what I prefer to use from a design outlook and controller feel, it could be Sony next gen or it could again be Microsoft.

    I do think they have done well to catch up (Sony) considering the awful launch period and for me they have the better 1st party investment which I think as games cost even more to develop next generation could see a big pay off for them in terms of enticing games only available on their platform. They cannot fuck up the PS4 launch like the PS3 launch surely?

    #38 3 years ago
  39. Gadzooks!

    Crysis 2 and Witcher 2 are the best looking console games this gen. They also happen to have gameplay unlike the pathetic excuses for games the PS3 gets.

    #39 3 years ago
  40. OrbitMonkey

    I think it’ll still come down to exclusives, over the perceived quality of the console itself.

    I’m betting most households can afford maybe 2 consoles at most and that’s including handhelds…

    #40 3 years ago
  41. sg1974

    Five years ago the internet’s armchair experts were assuring us that the PS3 would flop, Blu-ray would flop, and the console would be a distant third at the end of the gen. Probably even the last PlayStation, they mused. Pounded into the dust by the 360.

    But just like that infamous Champions League final when half the Liverpool fans left before the final whistle, you’ll not find many who will admit to it today.

    Good job SCE.

    #41 3 years ago
  42. Christopher Jack

    @39, Ehm, Crysis 2 is on PS3, I’ve played it on there. As for Witcher 2? Don’t care, couldn’t get into the original, may try it out or get it on a super Steam special, but in the mean time, I’m going to continue playing games regardless of the plastic box I’m using to do so. Gaming is for gaming, not nerd bashing the stupid little box used to play them, grow the fuck up. Don’t enjoy the PS3, it’s UI or its games? What ever, no one cares, no need to harp on about it.

    #42 3 years ago
  43. G1GAHURTZ

    Yeah, good job, SCE.

    Good job for losing a huge market share!

    Well played guys.

    Next gen, lets see how much smaller you guys can get it down to…

    #43 3 years ago
  44. Gadzooks!

    #42

    Ok mate, no need for tears. I didn’t call your mam a whore or anything like that.

    #44 3 years ago
  45. DrDamn

    @41
    “But just like that infamous Champions League final when half the Liverpool fans left before the final whistle, you’ll not find many who will admit to it today.”

    Errr. No, just no. You clearly no nothing about this. They would have all have to leave at half time, not before the final whistle. Liverpool started the comeback on 54′ and were level within 6′ of that.

    #45 3 years ago
  46. Gadzooks!

    #43

    Exactly. They had it all and pissed it up against the wall. Now they have what they deserve: The scraps of this gen and a lot fewer followers.

    #46 3 years ago
  47. ManuOtaku

    #43 not only losing a huge market share, which if you look globaly is almost 50%, but also going for first to last place and it is fighting for the second position, not good at all, of course it was not their doom like many predicted, but it wasnt a success either, perhaps a flop would be a better term under the circumstances, because the other two main competitors did exactly the opposite, they had growth in market share and they are on top of them, globally speaking.

    Thats why i dont understand the things he did said, these were their two most key faults this gen, they came later so they gave the direct competiton a head start, and the price point for being a more powerfull machine, with a very difficult tech, that was done that way maybe to be more powerfull, therefore he is saying they will do it again with their next machine, i dont think so, especially for the vita situation and their overall business situation.

    #47 3 years ago
  48. polygem

    there was no real winner this gen. there probably wont be a real winner next gen. so many pros and cons for each machine. i cannot decide. i don´t have to.

    #48 3 years ago
  49. Gekidami

    @44
    lol! Yet another prefect example of a hypocrite.

    Damn, this article sure did bring out the worst of the site.

    #49 3 years ago
  50. Gadzooks!

    From a business pov there is a very clear winner – Nintendo.

    #50 3 years ago
  51. Christopher Jack

    @43, Well since the Xbox 360 was released, Sony has sold a combined 183 million gaming consoles.

    #51 3 years ago
  52. G1GAHURTZ

    ^^

    *Applause*

    They must be rolling in cash!

    oh wait…

    #52 3 years ago
  53. Gadzooks!

    49

    Oh boo hoo. Boo hoo hoo. A nobody on the internet insulted me. A NOBODY of all things. Won’t someone do something about it? Think of the children for pities sake…

    #53 3 years ago
  54. G1GAHURTZ

    LOL!

    #54 3 years ago
  55. Christopher Jack

    @52, & HP’s sales of PCs dwarf that number since the Xbox 360 released, yet they’re looking at exiting the manufacturing business just as IBM before them.

    #55 3 years ago
  56. Gekidami

    @53
    Pretty ironic coming from someone whose sole posts on this site are crying about Sony. I’m sure Sony feel real bad.

    Say, isnt it time you through another hissy fit and left the site? It was great the first time.

    #56 3 years ago
  57. Gadzooks!

    Yes, lets do personal insults. That’s always soooo productive.

    #57 3 years ago
  58. G1GAHURTZ

    @55:

    Yeah…

    MS don’t just make consoles, though.

    http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/6/3067350/windows-7-600-million-licenses-sold

    #58 3 years ago
  59. lexph3re

    OMG LOOKOUT! THE TRAIN HAS JUMPED OFF TRACK! RUNNNN EVERYONE!

    #59 3 years ago
  60. Da Man

    A hypocritical devotee continuing to react to anything remotely dissing their beloved corp. Appearing minutes after our fellow gamer Gadzooks posts.. Only to call others ‘raged’ later on.

    Top satire, Gekidami. I see you ‘re really determined.

    Anyway, I’m really lost with all these conflicting Sony execs statements.. We never go first, then we never go last.. then we don’t know.

    #60 3 years ago
  61. Gekidami

    ^ I’m not the one who feels the need to constantly vent my insecurities, buddy. I actually do other posts besides trolling a company. Maybe you and Gadzooks should try it sometime.

    #61 3 years ago
  62. Da Man

    See my criticism of my *gasp* favorite series, Tomb Raider. Try doing that with your fav blu-ray player sometime.

    You silly little man.

    #62 3 years ago
  63. G1GAHURTZ

    Is it possible for you to ignore it instead of responding with such vigour, Geki?

    #63 3 years ago
  64. Gekidami

    ^ Hows about rather than always telling the people who respond to “chill”, you look at the same people whose sole existence on this site consists of trolling?
    Oh right, because in this case its against Sony, and you’re totally down with that yourself.

    Jesus, 64 posts of the same old trolls every Sony article brings out. Dont you have anything better to do with your lives other then get butt hurt over a fucking video games company you dont want to see succeed for some unknown reason? At least try posting else where, and no not attacking, not moaning, just posting.

    #64 3 years ago
  65. OrbitMonkey

    @Giga, Thats advice both parties could take.

    #65 3 years ago
  66. sg1974

    I love the way G1GAHURTZ lectures everyone else how to behave but is a master at strutting around like an arrogant and condescending c***. Just fuck off; most people ignore your posts anyway.

    #66 3 years ago
  67. Kuwabara

    Ps3 is still first place. It has the best exclusives, you just can’t put the wii on ps3′s level. And the ps3 has averaged more sales than xbox 360, cause of the 1 year head start. Ps3 is still the more popular brand, only held back buy the huge price difference between the two, , due to blu ray hiccups, and cell processor costs. Ps3 would have sold millions more had everything worked smoothly from the beginning instead of having to compete with a much cheaper xbox. The difference with next gen is that there won’t be a big gap in release dates and won’t have the same launch price, because of development costs being much cheaper.

    #67 3 years ago
  68. manamana

    I love how Sony is rolling up impressive games towards the end of its lifecycle. But Microsoft had indeed the better position this gen by launching first, so most third party developers started their gamedevelopement and engines for the Microsoft platform, didn’t they?!

    #68 3 years ago
  69. Gadzooks!

    67

    PS3 is in third place, full stop. Market share, Install base, financials, software sales. All relevant metrics have it in third place.

    #69 3 years ago
  70. lexph3re

    Can we stop talking about the what if’s of Sony? It’s just not progressive at all. We can talk about all the what if’s of all 3 consoles but in the end where here and now.

    Sony is delivering phenomenal game’s late in it’s shelf life. They are still showing of that there is plenty of life left in the system for a good 3-4 years. Granted that 3rd party developers are on board.

    I think the number one to really think about is what will usher us into the next gen? The same ole stuff from the start of this gen. Or, the things this gen has come to differentiate itself from others at.

    I want to see 3rd party games more dynamic like how the last of us is showing. I want to see more intensity being groomed into games going into next gen. That way when we have the technology to boost even more solid performance we can see amazingly in-depth and beautiful games.

    We can go on dissing the companies or we can just wallow in the awesomeness of gaming where we are and will go.

    #70 3 years ago
  71. G1GAHURTZ

    @66:

    U mad bro?

    #71 3 years ago
  72. Joe Musashi

    @70 I think the number one to really think about is what will usher us into the next gen?

    If this year’s E3 is anything to go by, Usher will usher us into the next gen.

    JM

    #72 3 years ago
  73. OlderGamer

    A debate like this could go on for years.

    No, not the one from Jack about bringing the best hardware to market – price be damned, that too has legs.

    But instead the one in the threads, amazing how many MS fans are are experts on Sony. And vica versa. DaMan, calling it like it is man, your trolling. Plan as. You have been doing it for a while now and it is getting worse. You take great joy is argueing(not chating or descusing) just outright agruing with people that like something you don’t. And not just one or two posts. You go on and on about it, throwing hooks, hoping to snag something, someone so you can keep going.

    And Gek? Man don’t jump on that hook everytime he casts it. Ignore him.

    But in the end, oh well. Arguing is prolly the biggest reason some folks come to web sites like this one. the problem I have with it is that it derails thread after thread. And to tell the truth most people don’t care about you guys, or me, or any other posters personality. They just want to read the articles, and sometimes engage others and read others thoughts on the subject at hand.

    Like for example, on the actual article, I think Jack is a little off. I think there needs to be a better balance between price point and quality. I think Sonys recent systems have been tech wonders, but I think high prices have held them back. Not held them back from making great games, but the price keeps those games out of gamers hands.

    Not so much with PS3 today, but when it launched. And if a system does burst out the gate at launch and sell alot of units, pubs won’t see the value of making that system a priority. Clealry the Vita risks that, esp when the 3DS sells so well.

    I hope Sony would learn a bit from the past gen and try to strike a better balance between hardware tech and price point. Looking at almost any generation of hardware, we can see that it isn’t the best tech that sells the most units.

    Agree or not, like it or not, that is what these threads are for. Decusion on the topics at hand. Not attacking peoples character. Not chasing them article to article. Not being a shit just for the sake of it.

    Some of you guys are really something.

    #73 3 years ago
  74. Ireland Michael

    @64, @66 &73 – Bravo sirs. *clapclapclap*

    @72 Shit, beat me to it…

    RE Sony: Solely based on the conferences, the PS3 will definitely end up being my go to console for single player experiences this year. Sony has some great stuff lined up.

    Man, I remember when Microsoft had really solid line-ups every year, with tonnes of high quality exclusives. Its been years since that’s been the case, sadly.

    #74 3 years ago
  75. ManuOtaku

    “And Gek? Man don’t jump on that hook everytime he casts it. Ignore him”

    OG I think sometimes being way more cynical than they are works better than ignoring them, but i agree with you nontheless.

    #75 3 years ago
  76. Da Man

    Unfortunately, I tend to start the trolling after someone already posts something. As you can see, my original snide remark was aimed at a certain hyperbole.

    It’s too bad anything Sony related gets taken incredibly seriously and being analyzed through, and anything MS related (be it rrod jokes or the such) gets completely and utterly ignored by people like Gekidami.

    I’m sorry I dislike a japanese corporation.

    #76 3 years ago
  77. G1GAHURTZ

    You tell ‘em OG!

    Come on guys!

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1sONfxPCTU0

    #77 3 years ago
  78. silkvg247

    Oh their next console will beat a PC then? Interesting.

    #78 3 years ago
  79. ManuOtaku

    #76 “I’m sorry I dislike a japanese corporation”
    Know i understand why nintendo too, dont worry i will advise the nintendo tops to move to china, iam sure sony will follow suit.

    #79 3 years ago
  80. Da Man

    See, that’s pretty much these people react.

    A good joke though.

    #80 3 years ago
  81. OrbitMonkey

    ^ The way things are going, consoles are fast becoming PC’s locked to a corporation :-/

    #81 3 years ago
  82. manamana

    @76 you can’t be serious about that?! So do you only play games *made in america*? lolz

    #82 3 years ago
  83. ManuOtaku

    #80 man i always try to joke in this situations, i dont like altercations ( i dont know if that is an english word,lets say fights) even on write form, they create a bad energy and i like to live in calm and with joy, glad you like the joke, hope it loose you up a bit, that was the main intention.

    #82 Hey that would make another great topic, japanese videogame consumers doesnt support american games/consoles, but american consumers do support japanese products, it will make a great study.
    p.s although they are some exceptions to the rule, you know

    #83 3 years ago
  84. Kuwabara

    Sorry Gazdooks,ps3 is ahead of xbox360 in sales lead. You have to take in consideration launch date! ps3 is the best console. The best exclusives and the most recognised/popular worldwide. Only ps3 can sell that many units being 1 year late to the party and being that expensive. There is no way xbox or nintendo can do what sony did in that position. By the time this gen ends, ps3 owners can be pleased knowing they got the best of the bunch and every cent worth it. Come next Gen, you can expect ps4 to reign. And wii u cannot be in the same class as ps4 or xbox^3, because its gonna be atleast 150 cheaper than both consoles.

    #84 3 years ago
  85. Gadzooks!

    #84

    Wrong, and wrong.

    #85 3 years ago
  86. Christopher Jack

    @84 & 85, Why don’t you 2 just get a room? You’re arguing like an old married couple.
    “PS3 sucks because *…*” “No, PS3 is better because *…*”.
    Who gives a fuck? There are things I dislike about both companies & both consoles but it doesn’t matter either way so stop acting as if it does.

    Back to article, I really do hope Sony take a much more open approach to next gen, proprietary shit like the Vita’s memory cards are real deal breakers. It would not have been as big of an issue if they included at least 16GB of built in storage, then perhaps people would not consider it overpriced.

    #86 3 years ago
  87. Gadzooks!

    #86

    I didn’t say PS3 sucks, I stated where it is this gen which is BY MEASURABLE METRICS in last place. Not by much but there it is.

    We all have favourites. Play what you like and enjoy it, but facts are facts and not subject to preferences.

    #87 3 years ago
  88. Christopher Jack

    @87, It is subjective which metrics you use & if they are even considered a standard. For example, the PS3 has sold less consoles to date, but it has sold more during the same period since their respected launch, does it matter to us? No, so why debate it? No comparisons had even been made until you started.

    #88 3 years ago
  89. gomersoul

    I am really hoping Sony do take their time with the next console and get it spot on next gen. They had a shaky start but the ps3 has provided the best quality gaming console this gen hands down. I bought one on launch day for £450 and its been worth every penny. We would all like things a bit cheaper but I’m not the sort that wants to sacrifice quality to achieve that…

    #89 3 years ago
  90. MegaGeek1

    “In a perfect world you want the best machine that ships first that’s cheapest.”

    This is what Sony NEEDS to be striving for Jacky boy. Why does it sound like you’re dismissing this fact like it wont happen? An expensive machine isn’t a deal breaker for me, but at least have the best piece of tech that ships first! If the PS3 came out before the 360 and was $100 cheaper at launch Microsoft’s game division wouldn’t exist today. Sony have all the exclusives and games I want to play, but so help me if Microsoft comes out with a next gen console first that has comparable specs to the PS4, Im jumping ship. I’m on the jonse for some next gen tech badly!

    #90 3 years ago
  91. fearmonkey

    We are still having PS3 VS xbox discussions?
    Seriously, who cares… Pick the console that offers more of what you want.

    That being said, I hope Sony waits and sees what MS does, and then releases a more powerful console. This generation was very close performance wise, not really that much differences between them.

    If MS skimps on performance, I hope Sony doesn’t.

    #91 3 years ago
  92. Gadzooks!

    #88

    If you don’t like relevant facts being raised then I suggest you find a forum that spins things the way you want to hear them.

    Or shut your whining, either is fine by me.

    #92 3 years ago
  93. Christopher Jack

    @90, The Vita’s hardware is worth MUCH more than the 3DS, from that perspective & so far that one alone, Sony is offering a much bigger bang for your buck.

    @92, What are you on about you delusional little boy? You haven’t mentioned any ‘facts’, you’ve just driveled that Microsoft is better, from which perspectives?- I don’t know, I don’t think you even know. You’re just saying random bs without any sources backing you up. You want to be a smart arse, ok then, PROOVE your drivel correct:

    “Crysis 2 and Witcher 2 are the best looking console games this gen.” Are you certain about this?

    “They also happen to have gameplay unlike the pathetic excuses for games the PS3 gets.”
    The PS3 has one of those games & the rest goes down to perspective & the best critics in the world would disagree with your statement.

    #93 3 years ago
  94. Gadzooks!

    Calm down son, you’ll live longer.

    I didn’t say Microsoft were better. I said the PS3 is currently in 3rd place by many metrics, which it is. Nintendo whooped their ass too you know. Gotta give props to the big N.

    #94 3 years ago
  95. Dragon246

    If ps4 launches 2 years from now, no worries for me. I have A HUGE backlog of games on ps3. I just hope ps4 knock peoples socks off with the tech in it (and NOT price).

    #95 3 years ago
  96. Christopher Jack

    @94, How about you take your cynicism elsewhere? You came in here exclusively to mock a piece of plastic which people use to play games. Don’t bother trying to lie about it. Either stop bitching about how Sony ate your baby, we never cared, or just vent it out elsewhere.

    #96 3 years ago
  97. Gekidami

    @92
    Cherry picking aint cool, bro. You know perfectly well that the PS3 has been outselling the 360 since it came out, yet like the dishonest little fanboy you are, you’re going to shift the goalposts and expect Sony to have also sold PS3′s before the console was even out.

    -The PS3 came out a year after the 360.
    -Since its release, its been selling better than the 360 nearly every year globally.
    -The 360 sold 6 million before the PS3 was released, that gap is now at 2 million.

    These are the actual facts, the ones you want to ignore because they dont suit your delusion.

    And please, cut the crap about not hating Sony and just sticking to the facts. You arent fooling anyone.

    Case in point:
    “They also happen to have gameplay unlike the pathetic excuses for games the PS3 gets.”
    lol

    #97 3 years ago
  98. Gadzooks!

    Yes yes you keep pulling the PS3′s one favourable metric. Try last gen vs current gen market share for another example of how well the PS3 has fared.

    #96

    Grow a pair of testicles why dont you. Accept that people are free to criticise what they see worthy of criticism here.

    #98 3 years ago
  99. Christopher Jack

    @98, No they’re not, no one is ‘free’ to do anything, every action has a reaction. Any whos, without going into a physics lecture, I’ll just say that people have been banned on this site for ‘criticizing’. Perhaps you are the one who should grow a pair & learn to live with the fact that people choose to use a Sony branded plastic box to play their games on, your bitching isn’t going to change that, it’s only going to annoy a few people & if that’s your intention, then I think it’s about time that you grow up, or at least take your shit over with you to 4chan where the rest of the trolls thrive upon. It’s not that fact that you’re criticizing Sony, what annoys people are your bias intentions & the way you go about it, acting all innocent. I’ve got my own problems with Sony, Microsoft & Nintendo but I don’t skip past the article after only reading a headline to bitch about it.

    #99 3 years ago
  100. Gekidami

    @98
    I thought they were third by every metric? Nice of you to admit that in fact isnt the case.

    And actual console sales figures is a pretty important metric, just sayin’. You seem to be basing most of your argument on that very fact, howbeit in a totally dishonest way.

    So anyway, now that the actual console sales figures have been blown away, you move onto market share Vs. last gen. Yet to my knowledge none of the current gen consoles have managed to sell more than the PS2, i dont think any of them are even close or ever will at this point (Wii was just under 100 million lacking the extra 50 million, but now Nintendo has dropped the system, the people who buy it will no doubt do the same).

    …So what exactly is your point here? that Sony didnt dominate the market, therefore they failed? Why should Sony have to live up to a higher standard than anyone else? Because it gives you ammunition for your hate rampage? Oh, right.

    #100 3 years ago
  101. Gadzooks!

    You go girls. Defence force assemble!

    I like how the more enraged you guys get, the longer your posts get. Its a reliable metric :D

    #101 3 years ago
  102. absolutezero

    lol I troll U

    Stay mad ololololol

    Jesus fucking wept.

    #102 3 years ago
  103. daytripper

    This stil going on from this afternoon? Wow

    #103 3 years ago
  104. Da Man

    First the boy cries about evil haters not leaving pure, beautiful Sony from the bushido country alone, then he keeps on throughfully analyzing and reacting to every single statement..

    States that PS3 sold more (marginally btw!)…

    Only for this little hypocritical fool to later say how iPhones sell because they have the Apple name on them…

    Hey, Gekidami. Sony Ps3 is a piece of shit, and the only reason it outsold 360 was due to silly devotees like you who bought it for the name.

    :(

    Let him be, Gadzooks, he truly has nothing better to do.

    #104 3 years ago
  105. OrbitMonkey

    Obsessive compulsives arguing over who’s the most compulsive?

    #105 3 years ago
  106. Kuwabara

    Gazdoos, you idiot. Ps3 is ahead in sales!! so it’s not third!! And the wii isn’t comparable to the ps3 or xbox 360!! is less powerfull, and much cheaper which means your not comparing apples with apples! that put the ps3 first place. Nin64 vs ps1. (ps2 vs gamecube vs xbox) but wii cannot sit alongside xbox360/ps3, get it through your head! ow you talk about metrics and number 1. How about what the most important one to us consumers is, the games. Ps3 comes 1st, xbox 360 second, wii LAST.

    #106 3 years ago
  107. shogoz

    what a surprise a bunch of fucking nerds fighting again, god bless 247 for having a moderator go through this shit before it gets posted up. bunch of nut sacks!

    #107 3 years ago

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