SWTOR Update 1.1 Rise of the Rakghouls to release tomorrow

Tuesday, 17 January 2012 20:20 GMT By Stephany Nunneley

After announcing an initial delay for SWTOR Update 1.1, Rise of the Rakghouls due to “issues requiring additional testing,” Bioware has announced it intends to bring servers offline in order to apply the patch during the wee hours on January 18.

Servers will be brought offline starting at 2.00am CST/12.00am PST/3.00am EST/8.00am GMT/9.00am CET, and are expected to be down for around 8 hours.

Earlier today, an official forum post, stated the planned update would be delayed due to problems brought to the developer’s attention by “diligent players” on the Public Test Server Forums. Originally scheduled for release today, Rise of the Rakghouls was then rescheduled for release “within the next few days.”

More information is available through here.


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  1. LOLshock94

    OMGZZ PC R3GE!!!
    on the other hand this game is terrible…worst animations ive ever seen

    #1 3 years ago
  2. Talkar

    I would rather have content that is tested and working, instead of getting it fast, but then being broken.

    #2 3 years ago
  3. viralshag

    I would rather have the current content working rather than it being broken.

    I don’t see how bringing new content people aren’t geared for is more important than fixing everything that is wrong with the game as it is.

    #3 3 years ago
  4. Erthazus

    Broken game. I dropped it and returned to WOW. Fixed Dragon Soul Raid is really cool right now. We are currently at Warmaster Blackhorn in Heroic. So much fun and so much wipes on him on the first phase.

    From new MMO Games can’t wait for Guild Wars 2, Firefall, Planetside 2 and Tribes 2.

    Bioware with it’s current gen RPG’s is dead to me, they failed to deliver decent RPG game. Dragon Age 1 was the only decent one but it was also in development for a long time.

    SWTOR after 6 months will go the same road RIFT or AION went (AION is a much better example). Basically if not Star Wars brand, they could go this road before even RIFT started to bomb.

    #4 3 years ago
  5. DSB

    @2 There’s no way to win as far as I’m concerned.

    Blizzard usually held off on dating patches until they were truly good and ready, but there are so many retarded WoW players who’ll just hear a rumor on a forum and run around spreading it to every gullible fool in the game.

    Then they all rage once the “rumored” patch doesn’t materialize.

    Honestly, as much as I liked some of those guys on a personal level, I felt like choking them to death whenever I heard the word “Patch next wednesday!”.

    It’s as bad as “Facebook will require a subscription”.

    #5 3 years ago
  6. viralshag

    @4, I don’t think you can say Rift has “bombed”. I would say it’s probably the best MMO out there right now.

    And imo, Aion is not better than Rift, not by a long way.

    #6 3 years ago
  7. Talkar

    What does this have to do with WoW or Blizzard? o.O

    #7 3 years ago
  8. Erthazus

    @6, i’m not saying that AION is better than Rift. It’s not better for sure, what i’m saying is that SWTOR is broken and will go the same road as RIFTis going right now or AION.
    RIFT is not really popular right now and every day there are less people playing it.

    RIFT is not broken, but it’s a WOW clone with few interesting twists.

    My opinion: I’m not sure that you can call RIFT the best MMO out there, but if you like it. Good for you.

    #8 3 years ago
  9. DSB

    @7 It’s lessons learned from an almost identical game.

    #9 3 years ago
  10. viralshag

    @8, Yeah I would agree that I think TOR will be another “OK MMO”. I think the numbers will settle at about 1.5-2 million, I would be hugely surprised if they ever made it to 4 million.

    I think in terms of service by the dev, updated content, balancing and game play, Rift is the best. I agree it’s not the most inventive but I still think their talent tree system is the best I’ve seen in a long time.

    Interesting ways to mix up combat and how you play is, to me at least, much more important than conversation options as combat is what I’m doing 90% of the time in an MMO.

    TORs static rotation based combat is pretty boring and completely uninspired.

    #10 3 years ago
  11. Phoenixblight


    “I don’t think you can say Rift has “bombed”. I would say it’s probably the best MMO out there right now.”

    You sure about that cutting the cost of the subscription and about to merge some servers. Yeah thats totally a sign of a successful game, amirite?

    #11 3 years ago
  12. viralshag

    @9, This wasn’t rumoured though. In Bioware’s actual words it’s delayed. They should learn to stay quiet until it’s ready. Unless that’s what you mean. I was a little confused ;)

    But it totally looks to me like bait to keep people interested in re-subbing as the earliest subs will be renewed either today or tomorrow I believe.

    #12 3 years ago
  13. viralshag

    @11, Maybe you’re right. Perhaps Bioware and TOR should start taking notes, looks like they’ll be there shortly.

    #13 3 years ago
  14. Phoenixblight


    People still have 2 more days to resub. And Blizzard have done this exact same thing, hell they even did it with an expansion. Software development is complicating and no one can know of all the possible bugs within the game that’s why they had it in the PTR and because of people reporting bugs in the PTR, Bioware had found a critical one. Content that is fully tested is far better than being thrown out with a critical bug.


    Arm chair prophecy? Most pre ordered MMO to date, and they have already reported a million subs not even rift hit those numbers. The largest number they had reported is 1 million REGISTERED accounts which doesn’t mean subscribers just means people made a account. Also SWTOR has had 325k concurrent players that is far more than WOW in its current state.

    All Bioware needs is 500k subs in order to make a profit if even a game like Rift can do that then a game with Bioware and Star Wars attached can do that easily. I am sorry the game doesn’t fit with you but that doesn’t mean that it will fail. Look at WOW I don’t enjoy that game at all does that mean it will fail by the looks it there are still 10 million people subscribing.

    #14 3 years ago
  15. viralshag

    @14, I guess the shocking bugs such as locking out a romance option with a companion must have just slipped through the beta testing.

    I do agree though, released content that is fully tested is better. I’m just waiting to see that in practice from TOR. Want to make a friendly bet* that Patch 1.1 brings in as many bugs as it removes?

    #15 3 years ago
  16. silkvg247

    I’m enjoying the PvP in TOR, dunno why. I think I just love the class I’m playing (Sith Marauder).

    #16 3 years ago
  17. viralshag

    I like PvP, I will like it even more if it’s 1-49 and 50s split up. Even a level 45 vs a decently geared 50 is like fighting an end-game boss.

    #17 3 years ago
  18. Phoenixblight


    Once 1.1 goes live you will get exactly what you want at least from the PVP aspect. I enjoy the PVP as well, I like I can just go up as a lvl 14 and not havbe to worry about fighting higher level opponents other than the level 50s who have far better gear built for PVP but once 1.1 goes live that will be fixed.

    #18 3 years ago
  19. viralshag

    @14, Sorry, you’re right. Having a high figure of concurrent players of a Star Wars game within it’s first free month is definitely the sure sign of success.

    You would think with those numbers dwarfing that of Rift then, they could manage to scramble up a service that even managed to slightly resemble that of Trion. What are they doing with all the money is what I would like to know?

    @18, I know that it’s coming but unfortunately I won’t get to see it as I’m still 60/40 sure I won’t bother re-subbing. I’m going to continue playing the game for the last couple of days of my sub but they need to sort out a lot more in the game for me to consider paying any more for it.

    #19 3 years ago
  20. Talkar

    I just think it is funny how only a few days ago people were whining about Bioware patching the game, now that the isn’t isn’t there, people are whining about that. Haters gonna gate i guess x)

    #20 3 years ago
  21. Phoenixblight


    SWTOR is far more complex than Rift. 1) you have lots of cutscenes more than any MMo to date 2) You have lots of voice actors which don’t come cheap. 3) No one knows the actual amount that it had cost EA to develop this game. Analysts have said anywhere from 80 million to 300 million. TO put it in perspective Rockstar’s new engine which was used on GTAIV and RDR cost 100 million to develop and that’s excluding the cost of making the actual game(s).

    #21 3 years ago
  22. GrimRita

    @21 – then whose fault is that? If you decide to make things more ‘complex’, then you put systems in place to ensure that you deliver a good standard of service.

    The Bioware team are far bigger than Rifts, yet Rift delivered daily fixes(when needed), regular content updates WITHOUT the need to pull the servers down for EIGHT hours at a time.

    Its clear that everything Bioware are doing, is based on the US time zone, ensuring the Europe takes the biggest hit in terms of actual play time.

    What if someone takes Friday off(for arguements sake) because of the incoming update today, only to find that there wasnt one and its landing on Friday? So thats almost 16 hours of play lost.

    And PB – you throw out stats from ‘think tanks’ which, is all bull shit. Its not factual or backed up by anything than hot air.

    You can still have a very successful MMO with a smaller user base, if its F2P or P2P. If the studio makes money – great. But do you really believe EA spent all this money on a huge licence to end up 3/4th to an 7 year old MMO? If you do, come down from the clouds.

    If SWTOR manages to move along with 300-500k subs, great, but I think they will have a tough job keeping 250k

    Even today, the tools at Bioware are talking about the next update coming in 2013!!!!!!! WTF?!

    Ive said it before, lets see how many are still around in 6 months time, I bet you will see a mass exodus of players when its sub time. This game simply isnt worth £8.99 a month give the state of the game and the disappointing levels of service

    #22 3 years ago
  23. viralshag

    @21, Well complexity certainly doesn’t equate to better then. The cut scenes are ok at best but anything “complex” in them such as throwing a lightsaber into someone’s chest looks piss poor.

    As I’ve said, I could do without a fair bit of the voice acting. You play through either faction once and you have heard 80% of the voice acting already, the only things remaining is the player (just a ton of one liners) and class-mission dialogue.

    GTAIV and RDR looked great. TOR looks average and for the most part it’s mechanics are more simple than anything else out there. For example, having pets is nothing new, and for the most part that’s all companions are.

    Again, I say to you feel free to continue arguing with my opinion that this is an average game at best and quite disappointing but I have paid my money for it and think I’m entitled to complain about it. I’m not going to overlook the issues it has and the things it does wrong in the hope they will “fix it later.”

    #23 3 years ago
  24. Talkar

    You can just turn the cutscenes off. You aren’t forced to watch them you know?

    #24 3 years ago
  25. viralshag

    @24, why would I want to do that? I’m not saying I don’t want them, I’m just saying for anything g other than simply talking they’re just not very good.

    #25 3 years ago
  26. Phoenixblight

    ALright Rift is a completely different beast. 1) Trion was created by a successful investor that wanted to get in the MMO Market

    2) He had invested his own money into development and when he felt it wasn’t done, he went to investors to add more money in order to delay it for two more years otherwise it would have released in a horrible state much worse than Warhammer or AOC.

    “GTAIV and RDR looked great. TOR looks average and for the most part it’s mechanics are more simple than anything else out there. For example, having pets is nothing new, and for the most part that’s all companions are.”

    Now you are comparing a single player game to a MMO thats like comparing pudding to a Pie. Two completely different games with two completely different demographics in mind.

    “Well complexity certainly doesn’t equate to better then. The cut scenes are ok at best but anything “complex” in them such as throwing a lightsaber into someone’s chest looks piss poor.”

    Did I ever say that? Rift to me is a crappy copy and paste job that is bland and offers nothing. I would rather play AOC or Warhammer than that game.

    As I said the game has already been announced with 1 million subs which is far more than Rift has ever had. SO your example of how to do a launch is not proof of a better game.


    You discredit the evidence that I have then post your own conjecture? GG. Nice try.

    #26 3 years ago
  27. OlderGamer

    For what is is worth, and thats not much, I agree Rift is the best MMO on the market today. Head and shoulders above WoW, but thats just my two cents, and I am sure PB wouldn’t agree therefore making my two cents worthless. As if anyone with two cents would mean anything anyways.

    With all of that said, i haven’t played TOR. And I don’t care to. It just 100% does not apeal to me. At all. That doesn’t mean i see it as doomed or failed. It may well have a niche audiance. I do however think it will never, ever reach anything close to what WoW does in terms of numbers. Neither will Rift, btw.

    By saying one product is best in quality simply because it sells more then another one is kind of silly. Thinking like that puts Lady Gaga and Wii Play at the fore front of their respective industries. Are they the qualitative bench marks to which all else should be meassured? I think not.

    So someone likes TOR. Or Wow. Or I like RIFT. All that really says is that Someone likes TOR, Wow, and RIFT. Of course that leaves plenty of room for video game rage and for fanboys to rant. But in other news rain seems to be wet…more at 11pm.

    #27 3 years ago
  28. DSB

    I’m with OG on that one. It doesn’t mean anything for it’s succes, and I think it’s pretty hard to rate an MMO’s potential this early on, but it won’t be the game that brings me back into an MMORPG.

    Neither is Rift though. What little I played during the different trials was so derivative I couldn’t stand it.

    I think most of the potential for SWTOR lies in WoW peaking. If it can be WoW-with-polish then that’s likely to be good enough, provided that no one comes along and moves the genre forward.

    #28 3 years ago
  29. OlderGamer

    DSB, I too have fallen off of the MMO bandwagon. Once in awile I play DCOU and EQII as both are f2p. So I don’t feel aqs if I need to play a set number of hours in order to justify my investments. I play when the mood strikes and walk away.

    But for me personialy, I am really hoping for a lot out of Guild Wars 2 and even to a lesser degree Tourchlight 2. Hell even PSO 2 has my eye brows peaked a bit. But not TOR.

    I would be very interested in playing a new Star Wars Battlefront game tho. Very much so infact.

    #29 3 years ago
  30. blackdreamhunk

    I am still on level 20 lol

    #30 3 years ago
  31. Stephany Nunneley

    Change of plans. It will be released tomorrow. The original post as been updated with the new information.

    #31 3 years ago
  32. viralshag

    @26, I have no idea what investments Rift got is to do with pretty much anything being said here? So they got additional money and had probably one of the best MMO launches ever? Kudos I would say. Maybe EA and Bioware shouldn’t have based their launch around a seven year old game.

    “Now you are comparing a single player game to a MMO thats like comparing pudding to a Pie. Two completely different games with two completely different demographics in mind.”

    Then why mention them in the first place if they hold no relevance? I don’t even know why YOU mentioned these games engines as like you then said, they are completely different.

    “TOR to me is a crappy copy and paste job that is bland and offers nothing.” – Corrected.

    “I would rather play AOC or Warhammer than that game.” – Can’t argue with this, when using my above amended line anyway.

    “As I said the game has already been announced with 1 million subs which is far more than Rift has ever had. SO your example of how to do a launch is not proof of a better game.”

    No, I think Rift is a better game, imo, because it is more fun and generally brought in some things which I really enjoyed – great spec trees, excellent dungeons, cool crafting, interesting things to do when not questing (like exploring and achievements) and a good attitude towards updates and patches.

    My example of Rift is mainly how to do a good launch, in which Trion hands down did a better job than Bioware. I’m not even sure how you could say otherwise to this?

    @OG, Like you, my taste for MMOs is fading and probably a reason why SWTOR didn’t totally hit home for me. I think for you and me both GW2 will offer something different as there is no subs and it’s a one off purchase.

    I’m hoping to get a good 60-100 hours in and not feel like I need to rinse and repeat content to further myself, and that’s how GW2 is striking me. It seems more of an online RPG, which nowadays sounds right up my street.

    #32 3 years ago
  33. Phoenixblight

    “Then why mention them in the first place if they hold no relevance? I don’t even know why YOU mentioned these games engines as like you then said, they are completely different.”

    Perspective of the cost and the overall complexity of the engine to the comparison of TOR which is a game that has to allow upwards of 10k per server of a large variety of hardware specifications.

    You keep making comparisons with Rift well you are lucky they have a game just like that, its called Rift go to it. I mean you are just as bad as the people doing the WOW comparisons in the forums. TOR is not RIft or WOW, this is a company that is well known trying their hand with MMO just like the previous said companies. ANd so far it is very successful compared to other MMOs launch in launch, sales, subscriptions.

    #33 3 years ago
  34. GrimRita

    @32 Theres no point even debating this with PB Viral. He will just base all his facts on numbers and ‘think tanks’ to get his point home.

    PB for a change, please actually READ what people say. Viral is NOT comparing Rift the game, but Rift the service to SWTOR. Right now, Bioware are utterly and totally SHIT at delivering a service.

    If you are happy with days of down time for small patches, then fine – but if you are looking to attract new consumers to your product, providing a shit service is NOT the way to go about it.

    You can pull stats/numbers from your rear all day, like Paul Daniels pulls rabbits from hats but the bottom line is Bioware have yet to set the world alight with this baby and it will probably die a slow and painful death unless their dev team are all either sacked or given a giant kick up their backside….but watch out for those rabbits!

    And here is a stat for you. SWTOR 1 million subs and half way through the month, drops to 750k. Hardly impressive now.

    #34 3 years ago
  35. Phoenixblight

    “And here is a stat for you. SWTOR 1 million subs and half way through the month, drops to 750k. Hardly impressive now.”

    LinK or it didn’t happen.

    #35 3 years ago
  36. GrimRita

    Well, I didnt think it was possible but Bioware have managed to make the UI even WORSE with the ‘new’ cooldown animations.

    Now, you cant even tell if your ability has fully cooled down because the final few seconds dont show up clearly, so you click it only to find that it wont work.

    The Civil War now seems to be the ONLY option in pvp – it even tells you where you are going, but I am yet to see anything but Civil War.

    Great work…….FIX, dont add. It clearly confuses you Bioware but thank you. I have decided that on Friday, you wont be getting my £8.99.

    #36 3 years ago
  37. Ireland Michael

    @28 “By saying one product is best in quality simply because it sells more then another one is kind of silly. Thinking like that puts Lady Gaga and Wii Play at the fore front of their respective industries.”

    Hey! That’s my line! Get your own material!

    #37 3 years ago
  38. DSB

    It’s not exactly sound reasoning though. Sales don’t say anything for quality either way. Making that argument takes actual context.

    It’s not hard to see why Kanye West sells more than Lil Wayne, why Eminem sells more than both, or why Beyonce sells more than any other member of her former group (obviously: Dat azz).

    Things don’t get proportionately better or worse based on sales, you need a slightly more detailed argument than that.

    #38 3 years ago

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