PlayStation 2 turns 10 today

hip hip hooray
hip hip hooray

Metal Gear Solid 3 = *salute*
Zone of the Enders 2 = *salute*
Grand Theft Auto: Vice CIty = *salute*

Still a great console!

/gets on with Persona 4

Global Defence Force = *salute*

… seems like yesterday to me.

…just highlights why 10 year strategies are folly.

Ico = *salute*
Shadow of the Colossus = *salute*
GTA3 = *salute*

Now ditch it entirely.

Sorry to be a curmudgeon but I never got on with the PS2. I think after the sharp VGA output of the Dreamcast the muddy blur the PS2 output even over component cables just annoyed me. I’m fairly certain most games were upscaled to 480i/p rather than being rendered at 640×480 like the Dreamcast. The analogue sticks were stiff and had huge dead zones too.

The more games that get re-worked for PS3 like God of War Collection the better. I’d particularly like Ace Combat 5 and Shadow of the Colossus…

Ace Combat 5 remake would be godlike.

That shit was amazing.

Metal Gear series ^^

Fuck me. I could have sworn it was older. HAs it really only been 10 years?

With this console Sony made NO Mistakes. There are hardcore games, casual games of all status. From F,D games to AAA titles. It was reliable, cheap… what shit i’m talking?

Congratulations Sony and old PS2 that is still selling well.

Best damn console EVER! Agrees with J.C. 99% except San Andreas was just unbelievable awesome. Ace Combat was a legend on the PS2 too.

God, I miss the PS2 era!

I found games much more exciting back then. Hopefully I can learn to get that magic back.

can we have downloadable ps2 games on our ps3′s now! stupid sony

Sony made lots of mistakes with PS2.

For one we replaced 7 of them. The anolog sticks are way to close together. The lack of AA was laughable(compare to Dreamcast). The lack of online focus(again compare to DC and XB). 2 controler ports VS 4. The FF HDD disaster.

What helped Sony so much then was two things. Both of them related. The PS and PS2 both launched Pre DS and Pre PSP and more spacifly prehandheld mania in JP. And secondly the PS/PS2 both lacked competiton in their early days from western consoles and western publishers. The market was JP dominated.

Fastfward to today and the land scape looks much different.

So many strong JP game devs/pubs are placing their best efforts on DS/PSP. It seems like everyone in JP must own and three of each handheld by now.

And western games from Halo to CoD to UC to Forza. And western Pubs EA and Acti. All of them out perform their eastern conterparts. Add in the wests focus for online MP.

And really one of the biggest troubles for Sony this generation is that they are too Japanesse.

Sony has built their house with JP support. This gen, I believe it holds them back.

Happy B-day PS2, we had some good times.

But truth be said I played more Dreamcast(PSO, Marvel Vs Capcom, Speed Devils, Quake and Unreal(Online) and more Xbox(Mechassult, Halo, Unreal, and PSO(Online). Then I did you.

It really is a damn shame the Japanese output on the PS3 isn’t anywhere near the quality of the PS2. I have so many games that I will absolutly not get rid of on the PS2 but can’t really say that about the PS3/360.

Silent Hill 2 was a turning point though, that game was a fucking menace.

You forgot to mention that the PS2 was the first ever backward compatible system, and the first console to let you watch a new better video media that was sweeping the world at the time.

It had so much hype that people only bit because the PS1 was so great also. I still don’t see how people can sit here and argue with the dualshock after using it as their main controller during that 10 year supreme rein.

Online speeds were nowhere like they are today so online games weren’t that much of a big deal. I will say that fucking multi-tap 4 player add on was pure bullshit. Especially when the N64 and Dreamcast made having 4 controller ports on a console crucial to party games….like the GUY GAME

All in all the PS2 is arguably the best video game console ever made and I’m talking only from a software standpoint.

@OlderGamer i completely disagree with everything. I love everything about the PS2 controller. Dreamcast controller is on steroids. PS2 had the best titles from all 6th generation consoles and thats a fact. From Gran Turismo till Metal Gear, GTA, God Of War series. They have the biggest library of titles from many publishers + 1st party and 2nd party.

Dreamcast was burned by PS2 with absolutely everything.

I think you just liked Xbox, Dreamcast more because you just liked them… but you can’t deny that they had great exclusives, great games and great platform… GTA and e.t.c.

tea, Mega Drive was compatible with Master System games.

The PS2 was awesome. This is fact.

@21
I don’t believe that’s true, but may be wrong…

The PS controler design is all down to taste as is any controler. But for me it was one of the worst ever designs. Right behind the Atari Jaguar.

The thumb sticks are way to close to each other. Working those things is like rubing your tummy and patting your head at the same time. The contour bending of the “handles”? Really? Whos hands does that fit? Mine are too big.

I really liked the feel of the DC and the XB controlers. Their size was nice too. The king of controler comfort, for me, is the xb360 controler. Feels good. Good anolog sticks. Good size. Love it.

The PS controlers are so bad that for PS2 I went out and bought a converter so I could plug my xbone controler into the PS2. Works great, remaping included. For PS3 I own a DreamGear controler. It is PS3, but designed like a xb360ish one – it seperates the duel sticks, and redesigns the shoulder buttons. Very nice, little sloppy in the sticks, but it works good and fits great.

Controler comfort is down to the individual. Just a preferance. No right or wrong. But for me I have always loathed the PS design.

Sidenote, bit of irony really:
I never got into GTA.

@21
according to Wikipedia, it needed an add-on.
Apparently “the Atari 7800 is backward compatible with almost all Atari 2600 games.”

Mega Drive was able to run them using a converter, not out of the box.

edit: yeah, that’s what I meant.

lol, could do this all day.

The DC could play some PSone games with a disc swap

it probably is true that it was the first home console, to do backwards compatibility out of the box.

Oh yea , true DaMan but was the graphical leap that much further ahead that system had to basically be 2 in 1. I was very young back then and only remember a few titles like shinobi which was my cousin’s and he didn’t let me play very much…(had to sneak and play while he was at school )

OlderGamer said: The DC could play some PSone games with a disc swap

You mean that emulator that everyone and their grandma tried to get a hold of. It made MGS1 look like a PS2 game I forget the name damn, but yea Sony went after that company fast boy, good times back then man, good fucking times!

Bleem I think.

yea Bleemcast, oh man fanboys went wild when that came out. And I’m not talking about internet fanboys, I mean in school, in your face real gang fanboys. Nobody did anything violent we just use to scream out which side had the best exclusives across the cafeteria while risking detention

nom nom nom

I do think the Dreamcast’s joypad was awesome, generally most people found it uncomfortable, but I think I just got used to the unusual shape. The analogue stick was fantastic on it and we have the DC to thank for analogue triggers on all modern systems. I couldn’t imagine playing Crazy Taxi with anything else!

During the PS1 era I adored the Dual Shock, but when I eventually got a PS2 with Dual Shock 2 I was shocked by how much I didn’t like it. It wasn’t until recently that I found my original Dual Shock and I discovered the reason I hated the DS2′s analogue sticks was because they were much stiffer and the movement felt rough. I’ve got several pads too, so it’s not a dodgy one-off.

With the DS3 Sony have gone back to the feel of the DS1′s sticks and it’s an infinitely superior pad because of it. The DS2 also had a much larger dead zone compared to the DS1 and DS3 which made accurate aiming really hard.

@OlderGamer
The so called mistakes you listed are your opinions not fact, also I know people who have been through 7 or 8 xbox360′s your point is?
As for Sony being too Japanese what the hell has that got to do with anything. Take a long hard look at some of the western publishers EA, Activision, most don’t really give a shit about gamers.

I for one am glad that Sony still have focus on Japanese developers, after all if it was not for them I would miss out on games like Demon’s Soul’s and more importantly The Last Guardian.

Gitaroo Man = *salute*
Forbidden Siren 2 = *salute*
God Hand = *salute*
Yakuza = *salute*

I like to be different.

NOM NOM NOM

also, sennasnit I didn’t know about Atari actually. I just remember the manual for my MD saying that.

I still love the PS2, I actually put more time into it in 2009 than I did the PS3 and 360 (though not the PC). I’d imagine this is the last year though, so I made a pact with myself to finish every unfinished PS2 game I own before the year is out.

Filofax

Come down off your soapbox. Join the rest of us.

I never claimed anything as FACT. Most of what you read on this or anyother such website is going to be someone opinion.

Here is a fact for you tho. I own and game on a PS3 too. So take your would be labels of fanboyism and go somewhere else with them.

As for xb360s breaking. Mine broke too, MS replaced it, free. My first PS3 broke too. I payed to replace that. Hell I remember PSones having to be turned upside down to get them to read the discs when they first launched. I think it is farly safe to say that all game hardware is going to break. If you know someone that has broken 7 xb360s, tell them to get it off of the carpeted floor. lol. No really tho, if they are burning through that many systems, I would suspect they don’t have it well ventilated, that or they are lying to you.

I have replaced several systems over the years. I play alot of hours, more then most. Stay at home Dad. And I wear stuff out. Maybe your friend does to, it happens. The thing is, if he is wearing out that many systems, he must be playing the crap out of them.

As for JP focus?

I have no problems with JP games. None. Many of them are very good. But I don’t think it is wise to rely on them. I think Sony has always figured that if they make the hardware, game pubs will put their games on it. That strat worked well in the PS2 days. But I think we have a different market today.

Demon’s Soul is alright. Too hard imo, but it is ok. But I enjoyed Fallout3 and Mass Effect more. Alot more. All down to taste and opinions. This is the game industry, very little of it runs on Fact.

Ok again with the DualShock analog thing, maybe it was just me but I always used the D-Pad for most games….Yes I used the D-pad with racing games like Gran Turismo3. It wasn’t until Rockstar forced me to use the damn analogs in GTA: SA that I had to get use to them. Ever since then they haven’t been an issue to me.

The DC controller OMG suuuuuuuuuucked. That analog stick was too sensitive and felt like playing with a girls hard erect nipples more that anything else. People say it was the best console for fighters….How? the D-pad was placed so low and felt awkward too…maybe its just me.

Whenever I do fire up my old PS1 and PS2 games now I immediately go for the analogs though, Syphon Filter feels pretty damn fluid using them over the D-pad with Gabe’s crazy run animation. And parasite eve is more manageable with that crazy fixed camera.

@DaMan that is the miracle of Wikipedia my friend

Ok just hit me … I could be playing BF:BC2 right now

So long as you enjoy what your gaming on, does it really mater what the other guy is gaming on?

Later folks.

Hunam said: I still love the PS2, I actually put more time into it in 2009 than I did the PS3 and 360.

Playing Persona 4 I believe you. Have you finished it yet? I’m watching the Giantbomb vids, maybe one day when I’m old and bored I’ll fire it on the PS9

Nah, about 60 hours through it at the moment. Just imported the guide from Doublejump as I really want to get into the meat of the fusion without having to have my laptop on all the time. Persona 3 took me about 90 hours all in and that was just a normal, not completionist run

Megaten seems to have transferred to handhelds at the moment though, which is a shame really as I’d love Persona 5/SMT4/new megaten series on the consoles.

Having never owned a PS or PS2 and currently playing through GoW collection on PS3, I feel I’ve missed out on a lot. Sure being a nintendo fanboy during that time had it’s perks bit I feel PS2 was where it was at. Oh well. Happy birthday old gal

“That analog stick was too sensitive and felt like playing with a girls hard erect nipples more that anything else”

You say that like it’s a bad thing?

The best console ever made!

*Salute* Fantastic console and honestly the best