Forza 3′s maxing out 360? “Of course not,” says Turn 10

Finally a sensible statement out of developer! There is no such thing as using X percentage of a system, it’s always used. It’s how you use the resources available to you that determines how the game looks.

I think everyone criticizing the graphics is overlooking the fact that Forza 3 runs at 60 FPS.

I played the demo last night. I honestly don’t know what the problem is. It looks amazing, surely?

Some things are always sacrificed in order to get 60fps..

Not only that but to get a game running at 60fps, It either needs to be using as less resources as possible on the system or the system the game is being ran on needs to be alot better & stronger than the system the game was designed to run on.

I’m with Pat on the ‘rubbish graphics’ mentalists. Looks amazing (miles better than 2) and runs smoother than a very smooth thing.

the games allways look the same on 360 thou, i never see any difference, unless rare makes a new game for 360 then it stands out, viva pinata is one of the best lookin 360 games

Yep, Forza looks identical to Gears of War. IDENTICAL.

I see my cry of ‘mentalists’ was something of a clarion call.

“Some things are always sacrificed in order to get 60fps…”

Care to elaborate?

Goats. And chickens.

Virgins, occasionally.

I never understood that. Seriously, virgins(*) should be put to a better use than sacrificed…

(*) Politically Correct clarification: “of proper age; otherwise wait until they are old enough ”

I prefer the “dirty” look of DiRT 2, I need dust and scratches. Even if it’s not 60fps I feel it like more realistic. District 9 CG over Avatar CG.

The problem is not, that Forza 3 doesn’t look amazing. The problem is, that Dan Greenawalt needs to shut his dirty mouth, because he seriously overpromised and underdelivered.
“Defintive Racing Game this gen” my ass. No weather, no day/night, less cars and tracks than GT5 is going to have…

Also, GT5 runs at a higher framerate at a higher resolution with inarguably better looking car models.

An before anyone tries to condemn me as a PS3 fanboy, be assured, I am so not.

GT5 runs at a higher framerate than 60fps?

Err, but higher framerate? Like 253 frames per second? I heard that’s what definitive games use.

(Crap, I crawl at 2 fps)

Do we really need another “Have we maxed out (insert console name)? Of course not …” news?

forza 3 runs at 60 fps?! did you forget the 720p?! lol. thats under 1 million pixels.

GT5 runs @ 60 fps with 1080p, thats over 2 million pixels. print these fact sheets in your head.

turn 10 is a piece of shit company, btw. all they’re doing is promoting the 360 behind the bars. the 360 is already max’d out. the technology isn’t max’d out.

don’t post and say “720p is the hot spot” bull shit from microsoft. 360 can’t even put a freaking game with 1080p and run at 60 fps, most of .. sorry, A LOT of its games are at 720p.

Most PS3 games are only doing 720p to.
Though based off some stuff i’ve heard it turns out the 360 cant actually do 1080p at all under any circumstance. Some test to do with pictures covered in pixels or something if i remember correctly. No idea how reliable it was though.

At the end of the day it doesn’t matter anyway. Gameplay > Everything else

“Though based off some stuff i’ve heard it turns out the 360 cant actually do 1080p at all under any circumstance.”

@Gekidami: That’s basically horseshit. The 360 will happily do native 1080p… there are just next to no games that do it. Go check the beyond3d forums for the tests they do to establish true resolution.

On 1080p in general, less than 1% of the console games this gen use it natively. The hardware simply isn’t powerful to pull it off.

If GT5 is anything like GT5p then it will tear like a bastard and be basically uplayable at 1080p.

Also, GT5 will most likely still be sporting the horribly outdated AI that was barely passable on the PS1, and the usual completely unrealistic handling the GT is famous for.

GT5 might look good, but as GT5p proved it turns to shit once you actually play the thing.

PS3 fantards only really care about how games look in stills anyway.

Gameplay > Graphics.

Streetfighter IV is 1080p, 60fps on 360.

Hmm… not according to Beyond3D’s list it isn’t, G1GA.

Actually, looking at that list barely anything is outside of PSN games. Even GT5 Prologue isn’t proper 1080p in-game. Has that changed for the full GT5?

No?

Oh, ok then. I was sure it was.

Ignore me.

“Ignore me”

Sadly this isn’t eurogamer

i love the ‘it isn’t 1080P so it sucks’ arguement.

It’s like saying a delicious low fat cake isn’t a real cake because it isn’t giving you diebetes.

Low fat cake? Get out of here!

I think I’m with Blerk on that. Low fat cake != Delicious cake.

just a little correction for above, I actually meant to say “same frame-rate”, not higher.

all I am saying is that, while I don’t think Forza 3 is bad or anything, Turn 10 needs to keep their mouths in check.

“OH, LOOK AT US, POLYPHONY IS TAKING DESIGN CUES FROM US! OH LOOK, OUR RACIN GAME IS DEFINITIVE!”

It’s grating, really.

@Jadeskye

I’m diabetic and I now feel insulted (by your spelling and insinuations)…

Low fat cake? Yuck!

@ Len, if you’re insulted by anything on the internet you kinda shouldn’t be here O_o

Spend some time on 4chan, it’ll sort ya out.