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Kane & Lynch 2: Dog Days review round-up

Wednesday, 18th August 2010 15:16 GMT By Joe Anderson

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Kane & Lynch 2: Dog Days hit the US yesterday and will release later this week in the UK, so with reviews starting to come in, it may be time for you to consider if this title is for you or if you’re saving your cash for Mafia II next week.

So far, ratings have been fairly average with Destructoid awarding the lowest score, Game Informer calling it worse than its predecessor, and Gamespot calling it better.

Which is right and which is wrong?  Let the ratings decide.

As usual, if you have any reviews you would like us to add to the list,  please leave a link in the comments field below.

Thanks, mington.

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52 Comments

  1. reask

    Having played the demo I reckon I would agree with the lower reviews.
    Not sure what they were trying to achieve with the you tube look but it didn’t work.

    #1 4 years ago
  2. mington

    OXM UK – 9.0
    OXM Australia – 8.0
    Famitsu – 32/40
    Strength Gamer – 8.5
    GamingXP – 84%
    Eurogamer – 4.0/10
    Joystiq – 2.5/5

    Giant Bomb – 3/5
    Game Reactor.de – 6.0/10
    Ripten – 8.5/10
    Kotaku
    Videogamer – 7/10
    Strategy Informer – 8.5/10
    Total Video Games – 7/10
    Dual Shockers – 8.0/10
    Now Gamer – 6.8/10

    Inc Gamers – 7.2/10
    Guardian – 3/5
    CVG – 8.5/10
    1up – B-
    IGN – 7.0/10 – Video Review on same page
    Planet X-Box 360 – 7.7/10

    from neogaf, i saw them yesterday :)

    #2 4 years ago
  3. AHA-Lambda

    k i am upset and pissed off to see this. can IO even make good games anymore? Do I want a hitman 5?

    I really thought they would fix this. I’m still going to rent it and play it to obv form my own opinion but the apparent lack of content (4 FUCKING HOURS!!??) just plain isnt worth £40

    PS destructoid review 1/10

    http://www.destructoid.com/review-kane-lynch-2-dog-days-181575.phtml

    then again jim sterling is a massive cu-

    #3 4 years ago
  4. Stephany Nunneley

    jesus ming! lol Did you have those saved to your desktop? ;)

    We’re still adding and updating. Thanks.

    #4 4 years ago
  5. DSB

    Least intelligent pick for a sequel, ever. IO have really gone downhill in a hurry.

    #5 4 years ago
  6. DeforMAKulizer

    I wonder if someone from Gamespot will be fired again this time… Gretsmann got kicked from the 6/10 review he gave the first game…
    Shame, i thought that this Kane and Lynch would have the potential the first failed to gather..

    #6 4 years ago
  7. Stephany Nunneley

    @3 Actually, Sterling is a super nice fella. Just saying :)

    #7 4 years ago
  8. cookiejar

    The 360 version has a pretty bad glitch according to Giant Bomb, hence why it was marked lower than the PS3 version. But a fix is on the way apparenty, so you might wanna hold off for abit.

    #8 4 years ago
  9. mington

    i quite liked the demo, played through it twice in the same sitting

    but reading the destructoid review made me kick it off my rental queue

    #9 4 years ago
  10. AHA-Lambda

    @7 – well i’ve never met him and i assume you have :P

    he may be a nice guy in person but i’ve never liked his almost sensationalist reviews. I dont care how bad kane and lynch 2 may be but it just isnt a 1/10 game. 1s are for like some of the worst games of all time and k&l2 aint that. He also openly argued with people who tried to defend alpha protocol, again thats all opinion but you shouldnt as a journalist/reviewer be arguing with people over their own opinions cos its different from yours.

    #10 4 years ago
  11. Joe Anderson

    @7 I agree, met him and had lunch with him at a Sony event once, nice bloke.

    #11 4 years ago
  12. mington

    gay

    ;)

    #12 4 years ago
  13. Anders

    I’ve only played the demo, but 1/10 sounds absolutely crazy.

    #13 4 years ago
  14. mington

    “most of the game is spent pinned down behind cover, with the player’s health dropping to near-zero whenever he so much as pops his head above cover. One is expected to fight this way, slowly attempting to whittle away an enemy’s health before hiding again, regaining health, popping up and attempting it again.”

    This is why i know i wont like it, this is why i stopped playing killzone 2

    #14 4 years ago
  15. cyborg

    Hi

    Please add this review to your list. Thanks

    http://www.gamersmint.com/?p=7457

    #15 4 years ago
  16. DaMan

    I hope Destructoid gets banned from Metacritic, then again stuff like CheatCC is there as well so.. but, I think a random user review from Gamefaqs would be more plausible.

    #16 4 years ago
  17. Dr.Ghettoblaster

    LMAO at destructoid. Actually says more about the reviewers credibility than it does the game…

    #17 4 years ago
  18. David Sarkisjan

    1/10 is just ridiculous …

    #18 4 years ago
  19. Lord Gremlin

    Always trust the least favorable review. 1 it is then.

    #19 4 years ago
  20. Stephany Nunneley

    The thing is, a review is an opinion. It can’t be “wrong” otherwise it would be called a “fact”. That’s one of the reasons I (personally) don’t pay much attention to individual review scores, and instead just go with what the community says about a game. However, I have found Eurogamer to be usually spot on with reviews, and I used to think that way about Game Informer.

    #20 4 years ago
  21. reask

    Dont know about that Steph.
    I mean if the dependable sites are giving between 5 and 7 I wouldnt get it unless I liked the franchise.
    Even then I find they are usually about right.
    COD 3 anyone.

    #21 4 years ago
  22. Dr.Ghettoblaster

    1/10 when concensus says it’s “average” at best, tells me you have heavy bias affecting your opinion.

    #22 4 years ago
  23. kastanaras

    Isn’t this the same Jim Sterling that gave Assassin’s Creed 2 a 4.5/10 and Deadly Premonition a 10/10.

    Really can’t take his review scores to serious as I sometimes feel he scores games wrongly just for the attention (traffic).

    #23 4 years ago
  24. freedoms_stain

    That is some major fucking spread on the review front.

    Even if you discard the 1/10 it’s still a spread from 40% to 90%

    #24 4 years ago
  25. onlineatron

    @20

    The problem is the score doesn’t match up with the text. The text is well written, justified and interesting to read. Whereas the score (and blurb explaining the score) is completely out of sync.

    ‘Score: 1.0 — Epic Fail (1s are the lowest of the low. There is no potential, no skill, no depth and no talent. These games have nothing to offer the world, and will die lonely and forgotten.)’

    He stated that the games youtube presentation is ‘incredibly clever’, the multiplayer ‘ideas are great’, and that the first game was better. All this shows the game has potential to be better… Which is a complete contradiction to the score’s blurb.

    I’m not purchasing the game, I didn’t enjoy the first game, didn’t enjoy the demo and I’d rather spend money elsewhere. I also do not want to call Jim out, as he is an incredibly nice guy (from what I heard on EBA’s podcast), smart and funny…. But this review irks me, the score is pure page-view-mongering.

    #25 4 years ago
  26. Razor

    Wow, Destructoid went to town on this one.

    #26 4 years ago
  27. DSB

    @20 Spot on for you, that is. Generally I think games reviews are in a very bad place. The writers tend to actually mention things that should downrank the game, but it’s rarely reflected in the final score. I can’t take that seriously. Look at the average Starcraft II review for reference.

    Having written hundreds of music reviews myself, I’d say a “zero” score is often meant as a direct insult, but it should be common practice that if a review item reeks of lack of effort, then it loses a few points beyond the mere sum of its parts.

    I’m much more likely to go below a “50%” score in the magazines who offer that, for a generic album, simply because I find mediocrity repulsive. At least be properly shit, or properly good. That’s 100% subjective and not topical, but I think that’s the freedom you get as a writer.

    #27 4 years ago
  28. Moonwalker1982

    Destructiod is a JOKE on this one. I’m not here to ‘save’ this game, it’s a disgrace that its only 4 to 5 hours, i mean…WAY too short. But what they say at the end of the review is bullshit. It makes the first one actually look great or something along those lines..that’s nonsense.

    This game does alotta things much better than the first one.

    #28 4 years ago
  29. Stephany Nunneley

    @21 Well, that’s why I used Eurogamer as an example.

    For instance, I know loads of people hated Zelda: Windwaker, and I loved it. That’s just an example really.

    I think, what sites who focus on reviews need to do, and this is just my opinion which means nothing (and I have no idea if sites do this or not) but, say you have to review a shooter. Don’t give it to the hardcore RPG guy to review, give it to the guy who lives for shooters, because he knows more about it. Ergo, don’t give a guy into shooters a review copy of Demons’ Souls, etc.

    I had to review Manhunt 2 on Wii long ago. I felt I was fair on it. I HATED it. I really tore it to pieces when I reviewed it. If it had been on 360 I may not have. But I was honest with the Wii port just being broken beyond belief. I had played the first Manhunt and loved it. So I had experience with the franchise, and knew what I was on about.

    I also reviewed Viking: Battle For Asgard – which was totally my sort of game. Again, I gave it a bad review, and I felt I knew something about it because I liked the genre. It was so bloody repetitive though. I mean to a fault. Loads of people liked it though. I just didn’t.

    I also once reviewed a platformer for DS, and an MMO when I had never played an MMO before at that point – I panned both, because I just didn’t like either and found both trifling. Now, if either game had been given to someone with prior knowledge of the genre or series, it would’ve been more fair to both games and probably gotten a better review.

    That’s just the way I see things. And don’t get me started on reviewing music. I feel the same way in that regard. God I talk too much.

    #29 4 years ago
  30. Hunam

    I used to trust EG till they gave Dead Space and Alone in the Dark the same score. Such an act is unforgivable.

    #30 4 years ago
  31. The Hindle

    @ 30 yea Alone in the dark is soo much better :D

    #31 4 years ago
  32. Stephany Nunneley

    @30 & 31 – I never played Alone in the Dark, but Dead Space scared the pants off me. I’m really looking forward to DS2.

    #32 4 years ago
  33. DaMan

    I don’t mind someone having different opinions, the issue is when ie they base it on bollocks, or being inconsistent. besides, actually if you’re reviewing a game you should try to be as little opinionated as possible. with some things you can’t, but most of the time you can very well be fair. not all games are made equally decent, hence not all opinions are equal..

    something is wrong when a game like Rogue Warrior is on par with this one, or Ass Creed 2 gets a below average score. to be honest, it seems some guys believe you can say whatever you want without losing credibility as long as you put a ‘?’ or ‘imo’ after that.

    #33 4 years ago
  34. The Hindle

    @ Steph i was joking dont play Altd seriously its shit. :D

    #34 4 years ago
  35. DSB

    @29 Yeah, I think balance is really the key.

    Fundamentally I think you can justify “pitching in” through reviewing or writing, as long as you know your shit. From there on out, it’s up to people and peers to judge your oppinions and your ability.

    You need experience, insight, and for my money a lot of integrity. That means not getting excited, just because there’s a new Starcraft or Mass Effect out. I think especially the latter is missing when it comes to games or music journalism.

    I think the opposite can be true for specialization, as well. Editors pick me for knowing certain styles of music particularly well, but I also get stuck with a few wildcards. I think I have something to bring to those as well, being a lot less likely to settle for mediocrity, since I’m not already “sold” on the style.

    Of course I still have to do my homework, and know what I’m dealing with.

    #35 4 years ago
  36. Stephany Nunneley

    @34 I won’t play it then :D

    @33 I wouldn’t say AC2 was below average in any way at all. Personally, I got tired of it about 3/4 of the way through and threw it back onto the media cabinet. But the same thing happened with me in the first one. Both are gorgeous, and while I got bored with both, neither were below average in any way “imo” *wink*

    #36 4 years ago
  37. The Hindle

    Dear IO interactive if you want people to love you again release a Hitman 5 and a new Freedom fighters and all will be forgiven.

    #37 4 years ago
  38. Stephany Nunneley

    @35 Exactly. If my boss had given me a grizzly Bear CD to review, I would have to listen to it quite a few times and listen to older stuff and research the band since I am unfamiliar with them to give a fair review. Not like if say he handed over a new Depeche Mode or Pantera disc. But that’s music, and I used to review music. That’s a lot different than a game, and takes a lot less time. You can’t go back and play a whole game series to get a sense of the new title. You have to play that one and go on with it. That’s why I think reviews should be handed over to the person with the most experience in that genre.

    #38 4 years ago
  39. AHA-Lambda

    “I think, what sites who focus on reviews need to do, and this is just my opinion which means nothing (and I have no idea if sites do this or not) but, say you have to review a shooter. Don’t give it to the hardcore RPG guy to review, give it to the guy who lives for shooters, because he knows more about it. Ergo, don’t give a guy into shooters a review copy of Demons’ Souls, etc.”

    I thought people did this? O_o it wouldnt make any sense not to. Why give the guy who hates football the new fifa game to review after all?

    #39 4 years ago
  40. Stephany Nunneley

    @39 Smaller sites do not have the resources to do that. Larger sites like IGN or Eurogamer, or Gamespot? I am sure they do.

    I just don’t “know” if they do or not, as I’m not privy to their managerial style.

    #40 4 years ago
  41. AHA-Lambda

    @40 – right i just assumed that was how it worked, scary to think otherwise =/ Its why you shouldnt give me any jrpgs if i had to review them :P

    #41 4 years ago
  42. DSB

    @38 Precisely. That’s the way to go.

    One of my biggest peeves is how long games reviews tend to run. I think it should be a rule that if you go longer than one and a half pages, you’re wasting everybody’s time. I’m yet to read more than a page of a games review, thinking it was actually worth it. Most of ‘em I just skim through, looking for a bit of relevant information, all the while thinking “Fuck, this is boring”.

    I’ll rarely do a music review that’s more than 300 words, and I’m doing quite a few that are limited to 100, simply because I’m confident that people aren’t looking for “the saga of every little detail of why this album is good” – They just want me to tell them whether it is or it isn’t.

    Ultimately I think it makes you a better writer as well, since you learn to kill your darlings, and stick to what’s really important.

    I can understand going long if you’re trying to fill in a print mag, but online? That’s just indulging yourself.

    #42 4 years ago
  43. YoungZer0

    @6: Get your facts straight. There is no proof to this day that Gerstmann was fired because of this review. But there is a lot of conspiracy-theories that don’t make any sense.

    #43 4 years ago
  44. AHA-Lambda

    alot of people say it is because supposedly he didnt actually finish it =/

    admittedly the video review for the first game used almost exclusively footage from the first level

    #44 4 years ago
  45. YoungZer0

    @29: Gotta disagree on Viking though. A lot of the other Reviews said it was boring and dull. Which is the same thing i experienced after playing it. Such a shame because the story seemed interesting and the Art-Direction was fantastic. Also, there aren’t many games like these out there. Especially with Vikings in them.

    #45 4 years ago
  46. Stephany Nunneley

    @45 Agreed. I was really looking forward to that game. I love Vikings. I love that style of game. I was so let down.

    #46 4 years ago
  47. Moonwalker1982

    What a coincedence, recently i picked Viking up again, i had stopped playing it for a long time but now i’m back to it. It definitely has its good points too though, i see why people find it repetitive but i am enjoying it though.

    #47 4 years ago
  48. spiderLAW

    @23 I gave assassin’s creed 2 a 6/10 for the 360 version and a 5.5/10 for the PS3 version (and I prefer to play on PS3 usually) and people find my reviews to be pretty spot on or at least helpful so i dont think we can judge him by his taste in gameplay.

    If you need comparison i gave Uncharted 2 9/10, Gears of War 2 8.5/10, Mass Effect 2 9/10, inFamous a 7/10 (and i loved it), Mario Galaxy 1 9.5/10, Left 4 Dead 7.5/10, God of War 3 8/10, Saboteur 6/10, Kane and Lynch Dead Men 4/10….Need anymore examples?

    #48 4 years ago
  49. wishdokta

    No Lara Croft GOL coverage at all? Cmon. It’s brill, give it some spotlight.

    #49 4 years ago
  50. night_tripper

    I have played dog days and i got too say i enjoy the game and the mp is fun. I don’t think its a 9 out of 10 but i would give it 7.5 – 8 out of 10

    #50 4 years ago
  51. LOLshock94

    haha its funny how its the xbox mags which give it a good review every xbox or ps3 shouldnt even be publishing there bullshit mags but why dont you guys show gamesTMs review

    #51 4 years ago
  52. revolting

    Personally I really enjoyed the first one, and thought it was one of the larger injustuces of the gaming world that the actual K&L game was completely overshadowed by the negative press about its reviews, most of which seemed to be fueled by self-righteous “journalists” trying to prove a point more than the quality of the game itself.

    I mean, I’m not saying it was brilliant; it wasn’t. And it also certainly wasn’t for everyone. But me persoanally, I enjoyed it and found it entertaining, and that’s all I ask for from a game. I couldn’t give two shits about who said what about who outside of the game, as that has no bearing whatsoever on the experience provided by the game itself.

    While, again, I’m not surprised that the sequel isn’t universally loved, and I did expect a very mixed bag of reviews like this, I do get the feeling that some of the more extreme ones seem to be fueled more by a lingering grudge and trying to squeeze some more traffic and airtime out of the controversy of the first game than the game itself, once again. Which is a shame, but just goes to further solidify my opinion on reviews; I haven’t paid any attention to the scores they dish out for about 10 years now. They’re good for getting an overall feel for what a game offers, but I’m not going to reliably know one way or the other if I’ll enjoy a game until I’ve played it myself. Some reviews I do agree with, but just as often, a universally praised golden child comes along that does absolutely nothing for me, and conversely, an alleged complete stinker gets a universal panning, only for me to find I really enjoy it. Reviews are more like advice than a definative rating system, and advice can be great, but not all advice is good advice, even from generally trustworthy sources.

    So, to cut a long story short, I’ll definitely be picking up K&L2 and I’ll judge it on it’s own merits, reviewers be damned.

    #52 4 years ago

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