Battlefield 3 doesn't love me

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Battlefield 3 doesn't love me

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Started 6 months ago by DSB
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DSB
Member

It's just a relationship that keeps falling apart.

I do love the core game itself. There are a lot of bits and bobs I'd change, like there would be with everything else, but mostly I just don't get why they refuse to make it convenient.

Why am I spending valuable time ingame having to sort out my gear and camo? Is it really that hard to make a premade loadout and letting me select it once I'm ingame?

Why does it take aaaaaages to unlock weapons? Didn't you hear? Gratification is hip. Watching a graph move an inch or two after a 30 minute match isn't. It makes it feel like I'm playing a lot, and getting nowhere at all.

I probably already made those points some time here on VG247, but I just think it's a huge shame. It's like this fun, advanced game that gets held back by somehow taking the worst aspects of the previous games, instead of borrowing the things that actually worked for those previous games, and works for the competition.

I can't fall in love with BF3 when it keeps annoying me on points like that, much as I'd like to.

Posted 6 months ago #
YoungZer0
Member

That pretty much sums up why i gave up on the game. I really do not enjoy grinding in videogames, but the Battlefield series always took it to a whole new level.

Posted 6 months ago #
DSB
Member

Yeah. I know it makes fanboys cry out whenever you say you prefer something that CoD does, but really the prestige system is one of the smartest progression systems I've come across.

It lets you have all the guns reasonably quick, and once you're at the top, you get the chance to do it all over again if you really love the game and the progress that much.

To me that's close to the perfect balance between having something to strive for, while still getting to experience all the guns. I wish that was in BF3.

Posted 6 months ago #
Hcw87
Member

You can customize your loadout on the main menu, and select it once you get ingame. Kinda hard to miss this. Also if you don't like the grind, buy the unlock packs, seriously. It really isn't hard to rank up and get unlocks on this game, it depends entirely what you play. Conquest Bazaar/Metro gives a crapton of XP if you want to rank up fast.

Posted 6 months ago #
freedoms_stain
Moderator

Haven't you guys heard, in BF3 you only need 1 gun. The M16A3.

Someone cracked the game files and found out that the M16 receives no hipfire bullet spread penalties and about a 5th of the ADS bullet spread penalties while under suppression compared to every other gun in the game.

Why would you use any other weapon when there's one that beats their retardedly implemented suppression system?

Issue has been in the game since launch and known for months, yet to be sorted. One would hope that they've been waiting for the Aftermath patch (because hotfixing is too damned hard) but who knows?

Posted 6 months ago #
freedoms_stain
Moderator

@Hcw87, that's not what he was talking about. You can save 1 loadout per kit. Say you wanted a close combat specialist Assault and a distance specialised Assault (ignoring the fact that an Assault never needs anything other than an M16A3), you would have to change each piece of kit individually to suit the situation. You can't quickly select an alternate pre-made loadout.

On top of that the BF3 loadout interface is absolutely garbage gamepad optimised shite on PC, so it's slow as fuck to actually make any changes.

Posted 6 months ago #
DSB
Member

I'd say it's pretty easy to miss it, considering that I haven't been in the main menu a single time while playing multiplayer. Not once.

And expecting people to play certain maps in order to grind faster? If anything, that sounds even less fun than doing it the slow way.

Buying the unlock pack carries two problems. For one, I'd actually be paying not to be inconvenienced, and secondly it would be a solution that completely annihilates the progression system, which just means there's nothing to strive for.

I like progression, I just don't like progression that feels like it's a waste of time.

There has been quite a lot of problems with the weapon balance over time. Overall I don't mind too much, it's not on the level with the M60 in Bad Company 2, at least.

It is a shame that things like that take away from a game that you're expected to spend quite a lot of time on though.

Posted 6 months ago #
Len
Member

Where as I just can't get enough of bf3, totally addicted to it. Been playing lots of tank superiority recently, so much fun. It's the game that just keeps on giving... :)

Posted 6 months ago #
DSB
Member

Actually just found the loadout feature. Implemented in August, I stopped playing before then.

That definitely takes care of one problem.

Posted 6 months ago #
Giskard
Member

I didn't grind a thing, just played to have fun and unlocked all the base game's weapons in a week or so.

Instant gratification may be hip, but it's boring and should have no place in my Battlefield. Unlocking the final weapon felt all the better knowing I had to work for it.

The first guns you get are totally fine, and not underpowered in any way. I still use them.

Posted 6 months ago #
DSB
Member

You're right, the first weapons are the easiest to use, but for me that's not neccesarily great. I like switching it up. One of my favourite challenges in competitive shooters is mastering several different weapons, and in BF3, some of my favourite exotics are high tier.

You have the VSS which is a level 45 unlock, and I'm currently grinding for the 94 Akaban. The amount of hours the game expects you to play to get there is just grotesque.

I think the exact opposite in terms of gratification. If I feel like I'm actually going somewhere, and my time is being adequately rewarded, I'll be encouraged to play even more. And with a prestige system, you can simply reset if you dislike being at the highest tier.

I could understand it in an old game like BF2, but not in a supposed CoD killer from 2011.

Posted 6 months ago #
polygem
Member

i like BFBC2 so much more than BF3...speaks volumes. BF3 isn´t a bad game but i don´t even have a copy of it anymore...i still enjoy playing BFBC2 though from time to time. it´s on my 360´s hard drive ;)
imho it´s the better game in almost every aspect. don´t know, BF3 didn´t click. enjoyed it for a while but definiteley not half as much as i enjoyed BFBC2. was really disappointed with it tbh.

Posted 6 months ago #
Giskard
Member

@DSB:

You unlock about a weapon an hour in BF3, which is a fair pace. I unlocked more weapons than I could try during the first week. I still haven't gotten through some of their test runs.

Posted 6 months ago #
DSB
Member

That's not even close to accurate though. If we assume you get around 5k class XP (which is top tier) during a Conquest Large match, it'll take you at least 2 hours to unlock a lower tier weapon, and at least 4 to unlock a higher tier one.

Given that you'll probably be switching classes throughout, that's a long time with no progress.

Making people work that hard just for a weapon is playing to tedium in my opinion.

Posted 6 months ago #

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