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[Harry Hill Voice]
Hmmm, I like Robert Florence. I also like Dave Cook. But which one's best ? Only one way to find out... FIGHT !!!!
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-10-24-lost-humanity-18-a-table-of-doritos
RoFlo vs Dave Cook
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Posted 7 months ago #
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Please don't. Upset enough as it is.
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Sorry was only meant to be a bit of light jest. I posted it before I saw your post in the comments. Sadly I can't delete this thread...Posted 7 months ago # -
It's cool man, I know no harm was intended. Just keen to move past it. Thanks dude.
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Don't get disheartened, Dave. Everyone make mistakes. As you clearly laid out in the EG thread, it was an honest error. Donating it to the children's hospital was a nice gesture - at least some good will come out of this in the end.
Just imagine those happy kids' faces when they're messing about in LitteBigPlanet or whatever. Hopefully that will cheer you up.
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Yeah Dave, the EG comments are full of bloodthirsty witch-hunters out for blood and not willing to listen to reason. You do a bang-up job on here Dave, and you are appreciated. Unfortunately, your job requires an exceptionally thick skin, but for what it's worth, I don't doubt your integrity even the tiniest bit.
Chin up fella...
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Donating the console to charity gets a thumbs up from me Dave.
For what it's worth from a random person on the Internet I'm a big fan of your writing and this article has Not lowered my opinion of you.
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Yeah seriously Dave you do a fantastic job here and no one thinks any worse of you. We're all human and now everyone just needs to move on from what was an honest mistake.
To be perfectly honest, I thought it was a really harsh move to single you out in an article like that, rather unprofessional to say the least.
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Well, sony was right when they said about ps3 "IT ONLY DOES EVERYTHING"!
Jokes aside, it was a small enough mistake and you apologized, that's end of chapter for me.
Meanwhile, are there any plans of community giveaways? :)
Also I never visited your twitter page before, so happy engagement!Posted 7 months ago # -
Damn :)
Thanks guys, all of those replies mean a lot. I'm working hard here to give our readers the best coverage we can and I'm still learning every day, so it's cool to know that you guys are liking my stuff so far, really encouraging. Best of all, the hospital that runs this charity are based back home in Edinburgh so I'm scoring one for the home team as it were. Feel good about that too.
I'm also doing Movember next month. If you aren't familiar with that, it's a charity to raise money for research against prostate cancer, and you raise money by growing a badass tache. I did it last year and I'm doing it again, so I'll be after your pennies then.
It's worth it to make me look like a Cuban drug lord for a month ;)'
Dave
Posted 7 months ago # -
The EG article was particularly aggressive, and as mentioned you were singled out when so many others apparently do the same thing but won't be named!
There was a lot of sense in the article, but also some of it was blown way out of proportion.
I've only seen honest and passionate writing from you, so I must assume that you were just a convenient target for a guy obviously in the full swing of the red mist of rage, and actually not a despicable journo-terrorist intent on whoring yourself out and subverting the gaming masses.
It's also worth noting that us forumites are, in general, bastards. It's just the way anonymous commenting goes.
Keep doing what you do, it's good stuff.
Posted 7 months ago # -
Another for the big Dave love-in :). Don't think you did much wrong to be honest.
What's absolutely much more important than all this is that the enthusiasm and passion you write with is exceptional. I've really enjoyed the stuff you've been putting out on here. Games journalism is awash with cynicism, jaded views and whining. You are like a breath of fresh air.
Posted 7 months ago # -
Take it on the chin Dave. You seem to have been unfairly singled out, and that's harsh. In today's world it seems someone's always out to get you / waiting for you to fuck up. I've had some of this myself lately, so I feel for you.
As the rest of the guys here have said, you're doing a great job and we all love having you here! :)
Posted 7 months ago # -
I think that Rab is either incredibly naive, or just trying to double bluff his way to some sort of pedestal, Lance Armstrong style.
Everyone knows how the games industry works. Everyone knows how journalism works.
The idea that Rab has a career where is hands have stayed clean is one which is very difficult to believe.
Don't let it get to you Dave.
As you can see from the reaction here, we can all see that this guy is just trying to make a mountain out of a molehill.
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Have to say I thought that bit was particularly shitty and I'm normally a fan of his stuff. Have added my tuppence worth in the comments.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-10-24-lost-humanity-18-a-table-of-doritos
Posted 7 months ago # -
Thanks again guys, means a lot :)
Cynicism doesn't even enter into my vocabulary when games are involved. I love them, they're my biggest love. That will never changes.
Thanks for reading my stuff over the past few months. Much more big stuff to come.
Dave
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Nolite te bastardes carborundorum, Dave
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I think some people should take a serious look at their own lives before judging someone for entering a competition for selfless reasons. So part of the competition involved you promoting a product, so what? Every time someone enters an online competition it becomes increasingly popular for the hosts of the event to use your FB to share or promote.
Every FB game someone else plays instantly spams all their mates promoting them to play it. Now if they were to make you write a positive review/preview or anything like that then your integrity would come into question, it's just not very different from having Forza advertised around the rest of your site- it doesn't mean you're automatically giving up your integrity to sell it, Pat's just trying to get paid to keep this marvelous site & his amazing employees going. (at least that's how I assume you guys work, no idea of how these online sites keep going but I just assume ad revenue).
Posted 7 months ago # -
It's especially hypocritical given his Namco Bandai Dark Souls retweet earlier on. Anyway, apparently nuff said.
Posted 7 months ago # -
What a fucking joke. I'm sorry but seeing those comments just continues to build my ever growing hate for certain gamers. Like you said in one of your comments, Dave: never happy, it's never enough. This sums up so many internet posting gamers.
I don't see you as doing anything wrong. You entered a competition with better-than-normal odds of winning, due to a much lower number of entries. Hell, I would hashtag the crap out of Twitter more often but as I never win I don't really bother anymore! :)
But anyway, tell them to suck it and keep up the good work. Your work on VG247 has been exceptional.
Posted 7 months ago # -
While I'm sure the guy Rab himself is as decent a guy as everyone else, that article reeks of snobby and overbearing elitism, and serious overplaying of issues.
For one, he's talking about Geoff Keighley. Geoff Keighley is not a journalist. He's a media presenter, and little more than a promotion machine for other people's merchandise. He gets paid to say whatever the marketers want him to say. It's all his career is based on. To claim he's a "market leader" is hilarious. The only thing he's a market leader in is in being a sellout.
What's more hilarious is calling people sellouts simply for entering a competition. That's just ludicrous, and blowing things way out of proportion.
He's also promoting a stereotype (fat, lazy gamers who do nothing but play violent video games and eat junk food) that simply isn't true. Any journalist that dismissive of his core audience shouldn't be writing.
I back up what everyone else has said.
You and the rest of the staff are the reason I come here.
All of you are amazing - Brenna and her quirky, relevant writing, Steph and her wonderful sense of humour, Pat and his regular and blunt honesty, and you, with your refreshingly positive attitude towards gaming in general, which is a huge breath of fresh air in an industry (and sometimes this site) far too quick to chase after only the negative things."
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For me Dave is one of the nicest lads I've ever spoken to from the gaming press, he follows me on twitter and I get a sense with him that he would be a good guy in person too.
Posted 7 months ago # -
Hey, at least it didn't make NeoGAF... wait, wut?!?!?
At the end of the day it boils down to this - do you view PRs/journos (of any type) as humans who do a job, or as jobs fulfilled by a human?
If there's one thing the media (of any type) LOVES talking about the most, it's itself. You wanna know why PRs and journos get along IRL? Because they have a shitload in common, that's why!
Not. Rocket. Science.
Anyway Dave, this will all be forgotten by Xmas.
Posted 7 months ago # -
"I back up what everyone else has said.
You and the rest of the staff are the reason I come here.
All of you are amazing - Brenna and her quirky, relevant writing, Steph and her wonderful sense of humour, Pat and his regular and blunt honesty, and you, with your refreshingly positive attitude towards gaming in general, which is a huge breath of fresh air in an industry (and sometimes this site) far too quick to chase after only the negative things."
Well said, Mike.
Dave gets a +1 from me too.
Posted 7 months ago # -
It'll be forgotten before the weekend is over. If there's one thing the gaming media does its point it's finger, whine for five minutes, than going back to playing their games and forgetting all about it.
No "controversy" in this industry lasts more than a couple of days.
This isn't even a blip on the radar. I'm sure there will be a bunch of idiots on Twitter who want to make a big deal about it, but that's because they have nothing better to do with their live, but nobody cares about anything they have to say anyway, so it doesn't matter.
@O.G. <3
Posted 7 months ago # -
I like Dave as much as any of you, he's been a shot in the arm of this site and it's improved noticeably since he has been here. He was clearly punished far, far more than what he deserved.
But... you lot are basically saying that people acting like this is OK and that if we all shut up and let the circle jerk go on life will be easy.
That's... that's almost like you are asking for people to shill instead of be...you know, a journalist.
(no, i'm not calling Dave a shill, just reading into the overriding theme here. The other one being "oh well it's just videogames" like millions of people, jurno's included don't owe their entire livelihoods to "just videogames"
Posted 7 months ago # -
And what exactly was wrong with what he did? He entered a competition, posted a hashtag and won... by luck.
I don't understand what the big deal is, I honestly don't care either. He produces good work, I'm happy he won it, I'd be happy if any one of the regular readers won something.
Just because game sites advertise doesn't mean I have to click those ads, just like Dave posted a hashtag doesn't mean I have to follow it.
I'm not exactly going to turn around and be like "oh well, he liked it I have to go buy it now!" Honestly, with gamers one minute it's "don't treat me like a fool Mr journo!" and then the next it seems to be "WHY ARE YOU PUTTING THESE IDEAS IN MY BRAIN!?"
Posted 7 months ago # -
Because it's a conflict of interest. If you don't understand or care then I'm not sure why you are bothering to put an opinion down.
Posted 7 months ago # -
How is it a conflict of interests, exactly?
Was he there to review any games?
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