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1. GrimRita
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   So, no one has reported EAs last investor call on March 8th and I found some nice little confusion thrown in to massage the steep decline in SWTOR numbers.

   1.7 'active' subs, actually DID include the 30 day free trial. And from that number, just about half have actually subbed for another 30 days. But instead of actually offering up numbers, EA decided to use the term 'vast majority'

   Page 4 has the details, loosely speaking! http://files.shareholder.com/downloads/ERTS/1761146261x0x551670/86a5c9a0-1ee8-480f-887b-04bf50c8d268/ERTS_Wedbush_03082012_Transcript.pdf

   Posted 1 year ago #

2. Talkar
   Member

   Nowhere does it say that SWTOR is losing subs, it actually hints at the opposite. Now, he did say as you did, that of the 1.7 subs, the vast majority was what they call "recurring subs" (payed for a sub). When this document was released over half of non paying subs were now recurring subs too. So since we don't know what "vast majority" is, we have to use half for our estimations of recurring subs, which i'm sure is the way you would also like to estimate since it makes the game looks worse than it actually is. So: 1700000/2 = 850000 = A
   850000/2 = 425000 = B
   A + B = 1275000 recurring subs.

   Posted 1 year ago #

3. Phoenixblight
   Member

   Daw I feel so honored when I have a thread aimed directly at me but as Talkar has pointed out your claim is wrong. GG.

   Posted 1 year ago #

4. GrimRita
   Member

   He doesnt say numbers anywhere. All he says at this point is 'vast majority' aka 'we cant say numbers because the decline will make your eyes water'.

   But even YOU two fanbois have to admit - where will the growth come from? 1.2 patch? Doubt it. With Guild Wars 2 just around the corner and importantly, the lack of cross server support - if players feel part of an empty server/game, it just fans the flames for them to leave.

   dead horse, flogged...

   Posted 1 year ago #

5. Talkar
   Member

   "we said we had 1.7 million subscribers on the last call, which was about a month ago. What that
   was about was the fact that only about – just about half that number had triggered through their 30-day point and
   become active subscribers, our definition of recurring subscribers.
   We had about half that total still in the 30-day trial period, but they're subscribers because that first month is
   including with a package good. What I said a month ago was, just over half. I can now confirm for you today that
   the vast majority of the 1.7 is now triggered through that point and they're recurring subscribers."

   So by going from "half" to "vast majority" is a decline? I think you should look up the definition of those words little friend.

   Posted 1 year ago #

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