I asked:
"How is a sesnse of entitlement bad"
JM said:
"Because, in 99% of the case, it's assumed and not applicable. Yet those with the assumed sense of entitlement act as though they are owed something that they are not and when they are justifiably denied it, they act as though they are victims instead of seeing things for how they truly are."
How does anyone respond to this? Your basicly saying that gamers are smugg, greedy and stupid.
"In short: it's selfish and it encourages layers upon layers of misunderstanding."
Like I said. You seem to take the same kind of disdan that one might find with royalty looking down upon subjects. Also it is not gamers that create misunderstanding, its the industry with its layers upon layers of fine print layden tos. Look at something like PSN or XBL, they change their fine print, and you do not click ok you can no longer use the service. Thats legal sure, but what about the thousands of cash the end user invested into said products that depend on said service? When PSN updates there is no option to use the old one preupdated service. Your screwed. But I degress, I am sure you think that is justified.
I said:
"As what DSB said about a gamer paying his/her cash and therefore feeling entiteled to the game. Thats the crux of the anti drm arguement."
JMs response:
"No, that's still assumed entitlement and the mistake of the gamer. They ASSUME they are ENTITLED to the game. They are not. They have NOT bought the game. They have bought the LICENCE."
I agree with this truth of this statement, sans the making the end user/customer/gamer look like a fool. to the letter of the law it is true that we do not own the game, just the liscence, but we do "Buy" the product.
Here is where you start lose more points.
"The root cause of the issue is PIRACY. DRM is a response to PIRACY. Companies that strip DRM from their games have been proven to be pirated MORE. Legitimate users suffer the DRM because of the actions of PIRACY. You're a legitimate owner of a game(edit: OG - you only own the liscince tho, not the game itself. Therefore we own nothing, legitimate or otherwise.) and don't like DRM? Complain to the Pirate. That's why the DRM is in the first place."
You can also point to countless games were pirating was rampant and the game made millions. You can not assume that every pirated game equals a lost sale.
You continued:
"Oh, hang on. You can't find the pirate because he didn't put his name and address in your copy. So you'll go after the EASY target instead, the people that made the game."
Right because "going after" say EA would be easy. They would keep it in the courts so long you would never see the end of the trial. And honestly, I doubt your average gamer wants to "go after" anyone. They just want to own what they paid for. or in your terms, excersise their purchased liscence when and where they feel like it.
More from JM:
"Gamers that respond to DRM by pirating? You are making it worse for everyone. But your sense of entitlement and greed are preventing you from seeing the consequences of your actions."
Again torrents are not lost sales. You make it seem like everyone is pirating. Sure people pirate. Have been for a long long time. But it does NOT cost the industry bllions. The majority os pirating is done in nations/regions were the average person could not afford to buy retail priced games. The bulk of pirates are NOT some kid in moms basement tapping into a torrent. I am not some greedy bastard gamer trying to screw EA or ACTI by pirating copies of games. i am not distrubiting them to my place of work. I don't send my kids to school to distribute pirated copies of MW3. But you make that level of inference JM. Your smart enough to know that pirating is a much larger scence in emerging markets where vendors will set up a street shop and peddle games. The over whelming majority of gamers from established markets(EU, NA, and JP) buy legitimate copies at their local stores.
In many other places in the world the idea of buying a 60usd priced video game is unthinkable. If you want to prusue and go after those folks because you feel they are ruining the games industry, good luck.
You added:
"DRM is a shame. But when you stop thinking ONLY of yourself.."
Right, I keep forgeting about the poor abused MULTI Billion doller games industry. My bad.
"... and start to view the WHOLE picture then DRM is actually a very minor inconvenience in the scale of things. It's just whiney, selfish gamers thinking of themselves and nobody else that blow it all out of proportion. "
Right, who do you work for mate? MS? Sony, maybe? EA? I mean that is a company bunch of bs if I ever heard it.