I am 36 years old. I play games since the good old C64 days. i played on pc, dreamcast, N64, gamecube, playstation, xbox...and more.
i love gaming but i always have lots of other stuff to do as well. it is a timesucking beast that needs to be tamed all the time...
i recently bought a 3ds. i love to play mario on it. LOVE it. i also bought zelda OoT...it is awesome. nothing fancy really but it makes me smile while playing it as well. i only own a 360 at the moment and the only game i actually play on it is halo reach. i love halo but i hate all the team kill stuff when retards want to get the sniper rifle i picked up before they could. this happened to me a lot recently, with almost all the good verhicles and power weapons. kids today get all they want immediately from momy so they want the rifle too. i can understand those brats´logic but i hate it anyway. mp gaming can be very annoying...
i sold my ps3 a good while ago and i do not miss it tbh.
i have to admit: i am getting bored by gaming. even the good games can´t truly get me excited most of the time. i really feel like i have been there and have done that all the time.
you could say the same about mario, because i played a lot of mario games in my life, but strangeley it makes me feel good rather than bored.
the point is. today i am daydreaming all day if it would make sense to just switch to nintendo and finally get a freakin wii...i mean all the mario stuff, zelda...i could even play super mario bros coop with my girlfriend! she can´t connect to shooters but mario she likes...should i retire from my hardcore gaming days, let others do the hard competitive mp work and just relax with some fun nintedno games when i crave a game?...this doesn´t sound too bad to me atm. just sayin...
Old Harcore Gamers Retirement?(69 posts)
I am 36 years old. I play games since the good old C64 days. i played on pc, dreamcast, N64, gamecube, playstation, xbox...and more.
Iam like you, i do also have 36 yo, i been playing since the intellevision days, atari, NES, SNES, SEGA GENESIS, ETC., i do own the 3 systems since last gen alongside with the handheld, and i will recommend not to switch entirely to nintendo, but to expand to nintendo yes do it, the wii is cheap right now and have a great list of games really worht it, i will recommend a game that most of the time is overlooked but is a gem, little king story, of course they are so many games worthy of recommendation, but start with that and the mario games, but i do also recommend keep your 360 too, just for the microsoft exclusives, some third party games and especially the XBLA, which in my eyes have a great selection of games, really worth it
p.s and please Dont Retire, you just need to look for the games that really move you, i think they are a lot of good games for nintendo that really deserve to be played over the years, and some games on sony and microsoft systmes too, therefore dont give up on gaming just take some time and really pick games for the joy of the ride, not the score or becuase it is popular, altough sometimes popular games are ok, but thats not the rule most of the time.
hehe. yea i had an intellivision too....i wonder where that thing is actually. i remember the downhill skiing game, that submarine game, asteroids and stuff...unbelieveable how gaming improved technically.
i couldn´t really retire i guess. i just love games and i believe they will always be a part of my life.
i might just have to change the way i look at my gaming behaviour - and, just like you said really focus more. my problem is that when i got the consoles in my house - it is hard for me to say no really...i don´t want to end up buying a wii wanting to play games even more often...i will continue reflecting about that but i really think the wii offers a lot to me. more than i thought in the last years maybe...
Stop playing BtB, start playing squad slayer. Better yet - Anni classic. No CoD players and fighting for a sniper rifle there, unless you just take it and fail to use subsequently.
I really look forward to Halo4, judging by what 343 did in the Title Updates they got the message from the competitive players. Mini nuke grenades and loadouts need to go, the game was ruined by them. that and the diabolical rank system, only complaint I have for Halo3 one are the quitting penalties.
I'm 24 y/o, I play videogames since Famicom (NES in the west) and I feel games nowadays are incomplete, spoon-feeding garbages.
I feel you man.
I hate MP retarded, spoiled kids. They are ANNOYING, CHEATERS, TEAMKILLERS.
I don't play recycled shooters (CoD or the likes), though, but I see them everywhere when I play online games on consoles. I play Uncharted 2, Metal Gear Online 2(my fav MP), RE5, SOCOM.
I stopped playing MGO everyday because of the childish community. The damn thing is full of lifeless people. They kill my enjoyment in that particular game. You own them, they go mad, taking it seriously and try to TK you (adds you in his blocklist). I always join friendly-fire disabled rooms.
@Manu: thank you for the 3ds pushmo hint you gave me recently. fun little game. very relaxing. enjoy it a lot.
@Da Man: yes i played a lot of BTB recently. this is where this team killing shit happens. decided to go back to team slayer and squad to avoid it. i like these modes too, but without that team betrayal madness BTB would be an awesome mode too. Anni classic is indeed great! i also like the changes 343 did already - i got a very good feeling about halo4.
@Trace...:mgs for the 3ds looks promising too. a great game for a handheld if executed well. perfect for some long bed sessions;-)...some of the mg psp spin offs were truly awesome too.
i really like online gaming - or i used too...but it is really getting worse - it is "mirroring" (don´t know if you can say that in english?..anyway...") our society i guess. egocentric, ellbows, me first mentality. i want to relax when i play games. i love the competition but i refuse making a fool out of myself teabagging guys or cursing their moms.
@Poly, I'm only 26 but I still find enough time to find time for gaming outside of the usual things: works, gym, football and social events.
I would say if you still enjoy gaming, then don't give it up. Maybe just hold back a bit more often and just go at it when you really can't ignore the urge.
Some of my best periods of gaming have easily been when I take a break or simply don't have the time. It's great when you can come back to gaming feeling the need to play something new and read some reviews for games when the hype is over and get some honest feedback about it.
I'm also growing less and less fond of MP online gaming but much more for co-op online gaming, and more often with my select friends and people I game with often. A lot of the time I think it's who you're doing it with rather than what you're actually doing. :)
i wont totally quit gaming. i never will probably. it´s in my genes. but i got a feeling that i have to focus even more and i think the nintendo games will give me more statisfaction in the end. i really miss the feeling games gave me back in the daysi started it- and the 3ds really kind of does just that. i play OoT again right now and it feels great. i am having a very active life, work, sport, gf, dog, play drums, paint and so on, and i always wonder where i dig out all the time i spent for gaming (mostly i cut down some sleep)...but maybe i will do the wii experiment. i have this (weird?) selfmade "1 console only" rule for quite some time now (which i actually broke already by buying a 3ds;-) - i will give this some time but if i go nintendo wii i will probably trade in my 360 for it! (it feels strange to even write that down) -i can always buy one again later, now there even is cloud saves so i wont loose much. by the time halo4 comes out i already see myself buying it again. i love halo. BUT the plan is to REALLY change my gaming habits - you know, not even buy halo maybe (WHAT? UMAD?)- breaking the circle you know. change stuff. play mario galaxy 2 coop with my gf rather than getting t-bagged by a 12 year old who totally sucks in the match and ruins his first (and only) kill by t-bagging me. i´m thinking about switching from hardcore veteran to a casual (i hate this word) if you will...the plan´s not so well thought out yet - but i consider this - will take this weekend for reflection. maybe i´m just having a strange day today. could be. probably thats what it is. i really like vg247 for being a forum where you can reflect on this hobby like this and don´t get comments like: you suck - eat miyamotos balls noob - (now i am waiting for someone to post just that).
I hear you bud and everything you say makes sense.
I am 49 and entered around the ps2 era.
Lots of the new games are crap and represent a move into movie experience rather than game play imo.
I was personally very disappointed with uncharted 3 tbh.
It was nothing compared to 2 imo.
Still what do you do?
I mean is it the case that you watch over paid tv personalties serve you up the same crap?
Do you settle for the baftas or whatever the latest fest hug award ceremony is on?
Games are what they are and there is a lot of overrated stuff out there atm but you need to ask yourself this 1 question.
Do you get a buzz out of it?
If the answer is no then walk away.
Games are fiction end of, but unfortunately our precious media has become nothing more than mouthpieces of the establishment to keep us in our place so for me playing a game means more than listening to the crap spouted by overpaid personalities.
A strange take on it you may think but I am a fairly solid guy who will finish his mortgage this month so do not think for 1 minute I am ranting.
I kinda stopped buying in to this media love fest years ago where the powers that be tell us how lucky we are to be a part of it.
Enjoy your fantasy world and stop worrying about been left out of the wider picture because if the truth be known the wider picture is more fantasy than what you are doing.
If I had the time I'd still be playing games just as much as I did. Though I must admit that these days I enjoy plenty of other things just as much as I do gaming.
I totally agree reask. Games have the power to create an awesome fantasy world where you can loose yourself in. This is a good thing. It is great actually. It has a potential which yet hasnt been totally worked out.
I avoid tv too. It makes me puke. I dont buy it anymore.
Games try too hard to be mass media products, oriented in the movie industry. They are masd products- but not movies. Gameplay suffered for sure since gaming became more and more mainstream.They kinda loose their soul. But lets not forget that there are still great gsmes out there. Sorry for typo and strangeness. Writing on a crappy smartphone. Good night.
Why do you folks think I am so cranky and cynical all of the time. I love gaming, but hate the games if that makes any sense. I won't play Halo anymore. Too many kids. I play BF3, not because I hate CoD so much, I just like the depth of BF and the fact that I can play for hours w/o team killing, name calling, or even having to talk with other players. Seems the oposite of what OMP should be. But its the truth.
I just hate spending time with stupid and onboxious people.
This gen I have found the most fun play off of mainstream big box games. I play a lot of downloadable games. Like Manu, I too own all three console systems, But am more likly to play Dungeon Hunter and Trine 1/2 on PS3 then Uncharted. I will play hours of Pinball on XB360 before touching a Gears or Halo. And then there is the Wii.
I never consider it a "real" this generation system. Yet without a doubt some of the best times and most fun playing games have been found on the Wii this gen. Zelda Skyward Sword, imo, is prolly the best Zelda game scince the one on SNES. Then there was Metriod: the other M - fantastic game. Donkey Kong, The New Super Mario bros, Mario Galaxy 1/2, Kirbys Epic Yarn(wife loved it) and Kirby Return to Dreamland, and more. I just enjoy the games they have. My wife and I still play Mario Kart Wii co-op/competivly.
I am not saying that owning a Wii will end your gaming woes. But in all honestly, it sounds to me like you and your GF could enjoy the Wii the same way me and my Wii do. Playing games together with someone you know/love/whatever is a hell of a lot more fun then watching a 8yr old no scope you and then TeaBag ya.
My opinion is that you don't need to give your core games like your shooters(tho finding one not over run with 12yr olds is a must). But expanding the scope of what you play could be key.
@og: wise words. i think i really will get a wii finally. maybe i just keep the 360 too (i know i would end up buying one again someday anyway). but i am really still considering getting rid of it all. will decide on that in a few days. the kids in halo are annoying but i am in love with the halo gameplay. what can i do? wish for a 25+ only playlist option in halo 4? i used to love bf, but hated the demo and then skipped bf3. i know the final game is much better than what the demo level offered, but you know that´s kind of what the topic is about, i thought: why even bother, i got halo reach already, it´s a great shooter with superbly refined gameplay why getting another bf which is probably good but it wont bring anything new to the table. mw3 is a desaster though. i only rented it and was shocked. lazy ass game. the essence of what became bad in gaming. the mp levers are a joke. there is a german mall in it (arkaden?) there you can see the lazyness, the translations of the shop names and signs and stuff aren´t looked up correctly. noone would name shops like that. "shoes" doesn´t translate into "schuhwerk" (at least not in this century....it´s just "Schuhe" - easy to look up but they didn´t, probably just googled it and took the first link they found there. lazy. it´s details like this that seperate a good game from a bad game. details count. i cannot understand the good scores it received. this is a problem too. the hype of bad or mediocore games.
it feels great right now thinking about maybe playing games like zelda skyward sword, mario galaxy and super bros with my gf soon.
ok guys....i just did it. spontaneously - but it counts...i sold all my 360 stuff at rebuy.de- i traded it in actually for a black wii plus, second controler, mario galaxy 2, super mario bros wii and zelda skyward swords and a controller charger - just have to pack my stuff up, don´t forget to cloudsave and should be able to enjoy the nintendo next wiik...i see that as an experiment. can the wii be enough for my gaming needs? can it bring back some of that childish joy i had when i started with gaming and which i miss from the so called mature games on the so called hardcore gamers machines? can i live without online gaming (which i started to hate anyway recently)? is playing games with my girlfriend fun?
i am seeing myself buying a 360 again some day soon (halo4). but i had to go the hard way and maybe i wont be back on 360...who knows.
maybe i just keep the wii and get a decent gaming pc some day, this seems to be a great solution too. my computer needs to be replaced anyway soon.
everyone from vg24/7 on my 360 OhMikeOdd friendslist...let´s keep being friends for a while ok? i might be back one day! everyone else: please no friends requests - i´m on vacation.
For what it's worth, I've only played 3 games on my Wii. IMHO the game catalogue is awful. Worst purchase I've made.
Personally I'd have just bought a bunch of XBLA / PSN games instead. The quality single player stuff rather than the ritalin riddle scumbag attracting online garbage.
That said, Super Mario Galaxy is great, so have fun with that. I personally think the Zelda games are awful, but if you're a fan then obviously you'll enjoy that a lot too.
maybe...but again. i really like playing games alone, recently i feel strange about it sometimes though. my girlfriend is absolutely tolerant and not complaining at all when i play games. it´s more like I find it strange recently when i am alone in the room playing halo and she is on the couch reading a book or something. nothing wrong with it, but it feels strange to me sometimes. i know she would prefer spending time with me. it would be nice to just play a game together once in a while. when i bought the 3ds she totally digged super mario 3d land. she had a gameboy as a kid, there was a connection. though she isn´t into gaming really, she had fun playing. that´s where the wii comes into play. she wouldn´t really play an xbla game with me but mario or kirby with that wiimote thingy 4 sure. like i said. i´ll try and look how it feels. i do not have anything to lose. i can pick up a 360 any day cheap if i really start to miss that thing - but i felt like i had to get rid of it and stay as closest as possible to my 1 console only rule;-)
Should have got a Kinect and Dance Central. :D
Polygem also try punch out, great fun and also a little bit hard, and the gameplay is top notch, i did never tried before in the NES and SNES era, it was one of those games you let them pass you, but when i get it on wii, i was excited like a five years old, is a great and fun game, also the games that OG mentioned on wii are great especially the new donkey kong country, both kirbys, but in the third party front, please get little king story, is sort of a mix between pikmin and fire emblem, zack and wicki is a great adventure game with a great use of the motion controllers, also muramasa the demon blade, fragile, red steel 2, sin and punishment, sonic colors.
Those are some of the games i did enjoy the most, there are more but with those you get a solid start, and also those games were loved by my wife and kids too, so i think you will not go wrong with them.
P.S in the multiplayer front mario kart wii and monster hunter tri are the best on the console, great fun without all the bad things on common multiplayer.
Pscho: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WAAAAAAAAAAAAYYY!!!!!;-)
Manu: thanks again. i wrote that down. sin and punishment was on my list already, donkey kong, metroid, okami and kirby too...looks like there´s a lot of stuff to check out...probably enough untill next gen comes and then it´s choosing a new pair of sneakers anyway.
Nice little thread this. Skyrim had me questioning my choice of hobby. 56 hours in and now I'm just grinding... But I loved Oblivion, fallout 3 etc...
Weirdly though playing MW3 doesn't get old... But I then I enjoy punishing mouthy idiots with my online skillz (ie I camp like a bitch and noob tube), hearing their little tantrums warms my callous old heart :-D
If I still had my Wii, the one game I'd always have in the slot would be resi4... Seriously enjoyed that, much better than the ps2 version, with very tight controls.
yea resi 4. loved it on the ps2. probably worth picking it up again for wii too....man my list is getting longer and longer. i couldn´t get into mw3. not at all. it´s strange, sometimes a game connects and sometimes not. i enjoyed blops much more than mw2 for example.
skyrim felt the same to me. i was totally fascinated by it but at level 30 or so it got extremely boring and i even started to kind of questioning the whole experience. it wasn´t fun anmyore but at the beginning it felt like i could keep playing it forever...
Yea know not for nothing, but if your really looking for a fun SP experience...you might wanna consider picking up a PS2. Yup old faithfull. If you can handle the yesteryear graphics, there would be so many cheap high quality game experiences to be had. You could even stick with the handhelds, and sit next to the GF on the couch while she reads.
I am so fed up with the stat of games these days that I find I hate most of em. But I keep playing because every once in awhile I find stuff I can't put down. The trouble for me, and my bank account is that those things are spread out across four different platforms. For me, no one system is the complete package. If I had to pick just one it would be PC. If only a console, that would be hard as heck, but prolly a Wii. Nintendos first party line up is steller.
Interestingly enough poly, I hated BF3 demo/beta as well. The trouble is that I always played Rush in the past few BF games. But rush on Metro is one of teh worst gaming experiences I have ever had. Its horrible. I ranted and raged online about, and almost didn't buy th egame. I canceled my preorder. But then I got the game because my brother inlaw was threatening to buy it for me. He was getting a copy. So I bought one. And I started playing conquest.
Things started to change. Gone were the camping snipers just waiting for you to spawn. Gone was the feeling of being helpless due to having to slug it out thro a chockhold/bottleneck in the map. I could pretty much spawn were I wanted, I could use a wide variety of strategies that just weren't avalible in rush. And if someone is camping, you can easily flank them and take care of the problem.
I also play in hardcore mode now. Not because I am gifted at the game, just the oppesite infact. But when the other team can see your orange dot in a mini map, your taking alot out of the experience. There are no mini maps filled with orange dots in a real battlefield. What ends up happening is the game boils down to a twitch fest. At my age, I loose that almost every time. So again, if they can't see where I am, I can use tactics. I can use the one thing their caffine aflicted, suger fueled, twitch laden little asses can't top, my brain. Lots of fun. The game really opens up. Lots of fun.
I really don't think I would have sold my xb360, had I been in your shoes tho. But I hope you enjoy the Wii. Don't forget to check out the VC online. So many great games from the NES, to TG16 to NeoGeo. Reasonably priced. And you could be playing some of the great JRPGs from old like FF or Breath of Fire II. Lots to like there, and the Wii fits em/scales em to look nice on even a widescreen HD TV. Speaking of, make sure you buy some HD cables for the Wii. It does do 480p, and that can be a nice upgrade. The graphics aren't as shiny as what your prolly used to, but I will put up Metriods, Marios, and Zeldas artwork against most of comes out on PS360.
yes, conquest is definitely the mode to go for in bf. i only played conquest in bfbc2. i played some rush but switched back to conquest soon. rush isn´t so well balancend imo. i also didn´t like the changes they made to the classes in bf3. i know if i would have bought it and spent some time with it i probably would have enjoyed it too. i do not think it is a bad game. not at all. what´s so great about bf is that there really is some room for tactics. if your team works together it can be a blast. if your teammates all just wait for the helicopters to spawn you are fucked though.
360: maybe i should´ve kept it but right now i felt like wtf. i got nothing to lose. i am not happy with the pricing ms is doing with movies and games on demand, the new dashboard is kind of lame too, i HATE that there are ads now on the freakin dashboard even though i pay a monthly fee already, i do not like the ms point system. i don´t like that pretend to be cool marketing from sony either...i felt like making a new start, with the wii. right now i am really excited for what´s in store for me. almost like a new console launch. i was greatly excited about the wii pre-launch and was disappointed when it was in store really. then i kinda wrote it off , played on ps3 and 360 and didn´t care about it anymore- now i think that might have been a mistake. if i will miss my 360 i will pick one up again. plan is though to keep just the wii and the 3ds for the rest of this gen and then free my mind for the next gen and pick the one console that seems to fit best for me.
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@OG: thanx for the hd cable hint...almost forgot. just ordered it as well.
Oldergamer, i know is a silly question, but in all this time i dont know how to switch to hardcore mode,i mean battlefield 3, how you do it?, i have it on PS3 but i think it will be almost the same as in the 360
It's a nitpick, but 480p isn't HD... in any way, shape or form. What you're actually looking for are component cables. If someone is selling HD cables for the Wii then it's likely they're also selling magic beans at the same time. :D
ManuOtaku, change the "Preset" field to Hardcore in the server browser.
psycho: true. they call them component hd cables when you look em up on ebay or amazon..stupid indeed because wii is 480p max. you get the best picture quality with these so i need them anyway.
Although, you don't really make a fool out of yourself t-bagging them if they do something stupid or just fail spectacularly. Say, I usually t-bag Assault Rifle rushers and HR pre-title update jerks going in for the double melee. Why even play Halo if that's your primary tactic. I tend to t-bag those camping power weapons as well, map control is one thing but players spending whole match near RL or Sniper spawn piss me off.
Can't say I share the pessimism.
The only thing that can really bother me about the games themselves these days is console design becoming the standard across the platforms. It's a lot more limited than games were back in the day. It pretty much killed off most of the tactical games overnight because there's really no efficient way to give orders with a gamepad. Radial menus really don't work.
It ISN'T bad though - It's just way too samey. It has cut back on variety and especially the more complex and detailed gameplay styles, which is something that I loved. Micro-management pretty much doesn't exist in the console era, and that's a huge shame.
Still, I have no problem finding games to play, and a lot of the good ones wouldn't be there without console design.
"There are no mini maps filled with orange dots in a real battlefield."
I really don't like that argument OG. In a real battlefield you can't just move as you please. You do as your immediate commander says.
I don't really disagree with the point of what you're saying, but quite arguably the visual indicators are there as a compensation for the lack of command and control. If everyone were free to move as they pleased on a real battlefield, a lot of engagements would be friendlies killing friendlies.
Even a lot of pretty advanced simulated wargames feature indicators, because it allows people to eliminate the ID-element of the battle and focus on the practical combat elements.
Just saying :)
I agree though. Having to ID people before you kill them does make things a lot more intense. Another reason why I think it's a shame we don't have games like the old SWAT where you were terrified of killing the wrong guy, more than dying.
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