In the spirit of the hilarious moomin post, I thought this deserved a mention:
One thing that's really funny is posting this on Facebook and seeing how many people fail to realize that they're dealing with satire. Apparently the Christian Right has become so insane, it's impossible to tell the difference for most people.
http://www.thetruthforyouth.com/standard/main.htm
That one is a lot worse, by virtue of apparently not taking the piss.
AMAZEBALLS!
You know things would be SO much simpler if Jesus had cracked a few jokes to his disciples every so often... religion is just so earnest (unless you;re Jewish).
Yeah but how many people are going to read this think its all true then boycott Blizzard and damn anyone who doesn't. There'll be plenty, I'm sure.
I started reading it and soon i knew that it was all a joke, nothing more and nothing less. Blizzard? Lol. And while some views may be incredibly extreme of some religions, this is clearly all trolling and nothing more.
@ DSB: I had a look through the comics on that Truth for Youth site....
Im more offended by them than I am by any of the christwire stuff (not at all LOL).
If Rock & Roll is against Jesus' will then im going STRAIGHT to hell.
But honestly, how rediculous is that stuff??
From what I gather, it's run by some evangelical fanatics. The thing that bothers me the most is that it's always encouraged that you "talk to a Christian friend" in these sorts of societies.
It's never a question of reflecting or educating yourself, it's always a question of leaning on someone and recieving direct guidance.
It's a lot less about stopping pornography, rock n roll or whatever it might be, and a lot more about control, by humans, and of humans. Celestial superpowers don't really have a say.
I really don't think something like Christwire is going to have any consequences. People who don't know any better will just think it's another crazy Christian website, and if any Christians are actually paranoid enough to believe what that "review" says, then there's no way their kids are ever allowed to play videogames anyway.
You know you can also give women a rimjob.
I wonder what a skyrimjob would be like... Thanks for the link, DSB!
The funny thing is, people still continue to fall for Christwire all the damn time.
Though with organisations like the Westboro Baptist Church, it's sometimes not difficult to see why.
Westboro is obviously the pinnacle of ridiculous beliefs, but you really don't have to look very far for more "legitimate" crazies.
Really all you'd have to do is spend a day in Mississippi. Not only do they try to uphold prohibition in almost half the state (based on some retarded assumption that drinking is unchristian) meaning that carrying alcohol will see you either in jail, or 2000 dollars out of pocket, but they recently tried to push a measure that would define a person as being a fertilized human egg.
It's just incredibly idiotic, and that's not neccesarily just the traditional idiots - like your evangelicals, who are producing "wholesome" comic books like the ones above - that's also ordinary people. Or what passes for ordinary in Mississippi, which is obviously a very wide definition.
It's an alarming number of people that wish to claim moral superiority over other people, under the assumption that they're carrying out unspoken orders from the voice in the clouds.
Of course, how you can actually define morality as simply doing what you're told without conscience, is another can of worms.
Even in Denmark where I'm from, we have a church that's tied to the state, which should mean that it has an obligation to serve its citizens, but they're currently contesting the right of homosexuals to be married on the same basis as everybody else, with the sterling argument being that the word "marriage" classically only covers men and women in the dictionary, and that the state doesn't have the right to go changing classical definitions in the dictionary.
IN THE DICTIONARY. That's the wrong book, asshole.
Look the way I see it is that its their opinions and its your opinions to disagree. Everyone has a right to their opinions regardless of their apparent stupidity because its YOUR opinion that its stupid. I have no problem with people having stupid opinions, as long as they don't act stupidly upon them. What I do take issue with is disregarding other peoples opinions in a degrading manor because you disagree. It pisses me off. Yes all these religious fanatics would also call you the devil incarnate but because your just doing the same, so in my book, your no better. Way I see religion is that its just as much of a belief that God doesn't exist as it is that God does, because there both based on just as much fact: none.
I don't see how I'm oppressing anyone. I reserve the right to call an idiot an idiot, and a fanatic a fanatic.
The relativistic viewpoint that "every argument is equally valid" is essentially the same as saying that you just don't care. Some of us do, and we will form opinions, and if those opinions somehow need to be formed according to the sensitivities of literally everybody (anybody, if you choose to assume the sensitivities of a certain group whenever you feel like it) then that is in fact an attempt to limit someones opinion.
I don't know whether God exists or not. I know that a few psychotic illnesses such as schizophrenia sometimes causes people to hear disembodied voices, I know that people can't walk on water or turn water into wine with their minds, and I choose to base my own assumptions on that. I also know that I can't prove a negative, so ultimately people are free to believe in whatever they want, but they have absolutely no case for proving it in a scientific, rational manner.
For the record I don't associate myself with atheism. I don't need to be a member of any club to somehow speak my mind, and I don't propose to know any ultimate truth beyond that which can be falsifiably and verifiably proven.
Foolish actions are foolish no matter what religion is called upon to justify it. Belief doesn't make people less responsible, even if some might like that to be true. It doesn't matter if the bible is someone's justification for being a bigot, they're still a bigot for buying into it.
That counter-argument was really quite good. Damn.
To the point that I would agree with pretty much everything you said there.
I defiantly would say that I do care though. I've put a lot of though into the hole debate of God and had many debates with others and have come to the conclusion that the only logical conclusion to come to is unconcluded. I'm also not saying that everyone argument has the same validity but rather people still having the right to keep them. Anyone who say that homosexuality is evil because the bible says so I'd just answer with "So I should also stone my dad because he has two different types of grain in his field?"
I'd like to be able to disregard others viewpoints because there stupid but sometimes its that you just don't know that your the one thats wrong. Sometimes you can't tell.
Yeah. I'm not saying my opinions or the way I express them aren't offensive to some, but I accept that conflict. I simply don't respect Gods of any kind (although I may like them as characters in a story) and I will never respect belief societies who do not show the same courtesy to people around them.
If people just want to believe in peace, they're more than welcome. I'm not going to show up on someones doorstep and start preaching the bad news, and I'll never ask someone to tell me who their God is.
But when it comes to misinformation, peer pressure, ignoring science, lobbying politics, or aggressively trying to recruit people around them, that's where I'll always speak out. I think it's a pretty depraved lifestyle based on my own personal values. I'll take "bad things" over personal repression and blind obedience to another human being any day.
To me it's just as valid as any political or philosophical discussion, because I don't see faith as somehow being a mystical power, it's a pretty simple, and very well organized system. People are still just as responsible for what they think and what they do, and no ammount of scripture is going to change that.
I'm the same way with vegans, though. That's another belief society that struggles with the real world :P
I want to live where the cigarettes are banned, their scent is unbearable. They're teaching the kids bad things.
@DSB I love you, man.
Also, concerning vegans / vegetarians. I've adopted Maddox's approach. When a vegetarian / vegan / person-who-doesn't-eat-hamburgers tries to make me feel bad for lovin' that red meat, I just say that for every animal they don't eat, I'll eat 3. Gladly.
Works wonders. 2 convertees to hamburger-lovin' so far!
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