PS3 owners. Those cocksuckers do NOT communicate :/ Actually let me amend that to European PS3 owners.
I really thought it was my own stupidity In adjusting my settings, but no, get a friend in your squad and it works just fine.
I don't mind playing in complete silence in CoD, rarely is my success dependent on others, but i'm fed up of playing rush on BF3 & nil communicado.
*sigh* Guess I'll stick to Death Match :(
I'm a European PS3 owner... :(
I feel kinda.. upset.. lonely.. and slightly suicidal now :(
This is NOT BF3's big flaw. It is the PS3's big flaw. MS' inclusion of a headset in every box was a stroke of genius and one Sony should have copied. Sony made a half-hearted attempt to deal with this by releasing a game or two with a +headset option, plus a couple of good headset products, but what they really needed to do was subsidise the inclusion of one on a big game such as a CoD, GTA or Battlefield.
can u speak team-wide on ps3?
that was imo one of the biggest flaws of bc2.
A teammate whos not in my squad standing 2 meters away and i have not a single possibilty whatsoever to tell him "yo buddy, watch ur back ur gonna get bumraped in a sec".
That is just poor.
While I do agree that often times it would be nice to have some comunication in BF3, odly I find it refreshing not to have 14 yr olds taking over the mics. I can't say that I always play with friends, but mostly you will find me in a squad with Michael, some of his friends, of my own friends and family. And most of that time we are in party chat instead of in game squad chat.
Talking can def. improve squad play. But I don't think the game is ruined because people don't talk.
Thats the wonder of Rush. Everyone knows what to do, and where it needs doing. Cnqst is a bit different but players move in packs, stay with your squad. Sure its nice to have an extra pair of eyes looking for bads, but in the end I don't think it ruins the game not have chating.
Singing, racist, obnoxious, foul mouth kids, that ruins games. Most OMP FPS games are set up to favor the lone wolf anyways. BF3 is not much different. Lest in the idea that instead of one single player, the lone wolf(roam anywhere, do anything) gameplay is still there just as a squad.
I mean lets say you could talk back and forth with the guy that is camped up in the hills, what could you say to convince him he should stick closer to the rest of the squad? I think that broken up gameplay that people feel could be fixed if only others had headsets is just part of the nature of the beast. Too many different ages and different demographics playing to have them all work together.
Best advice, play in a squad with folks ya know. If in a bad squad use the in game feature to find a new one. And friend people that play well.
When I'm not in a squad with friends (or in one with people who play objective games like tdm) I've been lone-wolfing it and the team,as well as my stats, have been benefitting. That's probably my biggest peeve, people playing cq or rush and not even going for flags.
"That's probably my biggest peeve, people playing cq or rush and not even going for flags."
100% agree. But where I draw some pause is in the thinking that things would be any better if people all had/used headsets. A player is going to play the way they want weather you or anyone else tells them not to. It will just end up with yelling. And in that respect, I sometimes enjoy the quiet when playing.
I play on xbox360, most of the gamers on LIVE have headsets. Yet most games are silent, chatwise.
Plus to be honest, at least to me, the game isn't about winning. My team can lose and I still have a good time playing, and still level up and gain unlocks. The game is best played with friends either way of course.
Next gen, all consoles should be bundled with a mic, more emphasis on online socialization. Althogh they better be far superior to that piece of shit wired mic that Microsoft sells, it's cheap & barely worth $5 yet they charge (over here) nearly $30 for something that will break for no reason.
somne ppl just dont want to talk, regardless if theres a mic built in.
If DICE realy wanted to push teamplay heresa the ultimate weapon for it: Dont give Points for kills.
When u play in a Squad that realy does teamplay it doesnt matter AT ALL who makes the kill. What matters is THAT the enemy is down, not WHO killed him.
furthermore they shouldnt show K/D.
^ Remove k/d ratio?! *shudder*
@OrbitMonkey, I actually agree, it shouldn't be included in objective type games, it makes players become selfish, it encourages one goon to camp the entire game with a sniper rifle in a relatively safe place, sure he may have a 30/0 K/D ratio, but does that make him the best?
^ It makes him KING OF THE WORLD!!
People who whine about KD ratios are:
A) Babies
B) Too slow
C) Unable to shoot straight
That is all.
@DSB, I often get great K/D scores, the problem isn't that I'm not good, it's that others only care about K/D ratios than actually winning. Halo for example, I am often driving a warthog or riding shotgun in CTF games aiming for the flag or defending my own, while there's some guy in a tank or hiding with a sniper rifle shooting irrelevant enemies & nothing else, too often have I seen them throw away a game just to get a few more kills.
It's not that I don't care for K/D ratios, it's just that others take it too seriously in games or modes that it doesn't make a difference, they're selfish players, defend your motives all you like, you're just in denial.
Urgh, i hate to say it, but i agree with you both :/
Plenty folk are intimidated/concerned by the idea of a negative K/D ratio, they hang back from doing what needs to be done.
But the idea of removing K/D ratio from a FPS just seems... Daft y'know?
Fuck 'em if others can't get the idea of whats important in a game of capture the flag.
The problem comes when objective game modes encourage those just looking for a good k/d ratio to take advantage of those who are playing the game to win. Sabotage in CoD:MW was a classic example. You'd come across entire teams not wanting to win the game but to get the bomb out in the open and pick off the opponents to better their ratios. They didn't care if the round was won or lost.
A little too much can be made of expecting others to play the game the way you want them to play too though. People are playing the game for the fun of playing it. If charging in to objectives and dying twenty times because they are shite at any form of close combat is not their idea of fun then who are you to say otherwise? Besides a shit sniper is going to make a shit wingman too, and more likely to get you killed because you think your back is covered. They may not add much as someone off in the distance rarely getting a kill but at least they may be marking people up for you.
im not sure what the problem is with removing K/D.
Seriously, pls explain.
Yeah it would distract many players, but hell, fuck that shit. They dont do any good for the game and should be removed anyway.
DSB:
People who whine about KD ratios are:
A) Babies
B) Too slow
C) Unable to shoot straight
That is all.
ppl who post something like this in response to my post are:
A) morons
That is all.
I do like to have a decent K/D ratio but it isn't the end of the world if it's bad. As long as I enjoy the game I don't care. I like to consider myself more of a support / anti-vehicle kinda guy so I can normally score well but get a pretty lame K/D.
For BF especially, I'm more interested in my W/L ratio of games, which is sitting positively at 1.18, even that is lower than I would like. My K/D is an abysmal 0.804.
Me and my mates were having some great games last night and picked up the Ace Squad pin quite a few times. The quality of this game escalates wildly when you can have a good team talking on Vent or whatever.
"The quality of this game escalates wildly when you can have a good team talking on Vent or whatever."
Yes that does sound nice :/
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