So which classics do you simply "not get"?

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So which classics do you simply "not get"?

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Started 1 year ago by BraveArse
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BraveArse
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After the Deus Ex comments and a comment on the Ico HD news piece just now ;), I started thinking about games that I *should* like and everyone else seemed to think were manna from heaven that I simply didn't "get". It was like I was from a different planet with them. And I was wondering what "amazing" games you all had that experience with.

I'd add that I'm generally one of those gamers that raves about everything I play, I just *like* games, especially shooters. So when something like the below happens, it leaves me quite perplexed, and generally it'll happen with a universally acclaimed title.

Here are mine, maybe you can persuade me to give them another go...

Half Life 2: I loved HL1 but thought this a poorly paced mess with FAR too many loading screens. It took me years to finish it ( on PC and then finally on 360 ), and I only did it because I wanted to know if it got any better. I didn't imo. I just don't get it. Key moment: Being chased through a block of flats at the beginning, running into a flat and being greeted by a man who shouts "QUICK! Up this ladder" - LOADING SCREEN. Way to ruin the moment. I will admit I enjoyed the next episode a lot more.

BioShock: I'll admit it blew me away for the first hour or two. That plane crash intro is superb. But I truly don't believe it ever matches that intro at any point after that ( that I saw at least ). Yet all but one of my mates froths at the mouth about it. I couldn't get more than halfway through without being bored to tears. Like HL2 I keep on thinking I should give it another crack of the whip.

Deus Ex:HR - It's another one that I simply don't get why it's rated so highly. I'm with DSB on this one and won't reiterate those arguments, except to say, for me, it undoes everything it achieves with incredible regularity. I will finish it, but I can't help feel like I'm forcing myself to do it.

Anyone got any more?

Posted 1 year ago #
AHA-Lambda
Member

"Ico HD news piece just now ;)"

^_^

Yeah for me absolutely ico. I played a good few hours of this game and never picked it back up. I felt absolutely nothing from this game, it was not bad obviously but certainly nothing praiseworthy either. It just seems like an ordinary adventure/platformer =/ For me it is gaming equivalent to 2001 a space odyssey: imo incredibly overrated and just leaves me wondering wtf i am missing here O_o

Also
RDR: its just a poor and quite tedious gta with horses, wtf is all the fuss about?
Oblivion: I have tried on 3 separate occassions to get into oblivion and couldnt make it more than a few hours. zzzzzzzzz

I'll probably think of some more later =P

EDIT:

Zelda - zzzzzzzzz......zzzzzzzzz......
3D Metroid - 2D was just far better. I put a few hours into MP3 and couldnt care less by then =/
Crysis - its just an ordinary shooter guys!

Posted 1 year ago #
viralshag
Member

Portal, Gran Turismo and Zelda.

Off the top of my head those three stick out as games I have never really liked or gotten into but seem to be high on a lot of people's lists.

And when I say Zelda, I'm talking about all of them.

Posted 1 year ago #
BraveArse
Member

lol!

Actually I still love Ico - but totally with you on RDR and Oblivion. :)

Posted 1 year ago #
OrbitMonkey
Member

Grand Theft Auto. Shoddy combat, shoddy driving, boring characters, stupid AI, dull missions & adolescent gangsta fantasy for plot. I like the artwork though :)

Metal Gear Solid 3/4 Hide, lurk, cutscene, crawl, lurk, cutscene, shoot, hide, cutscene, fight boss, cutscene, continue boss fight, cutscene, finish boss fight, cutscene. Plus turgid story & pretentious plot. But hey you can hide in a box & drop porn!

Posted 1 year ago #
viralshag
Member

@Orbit - After the first MG I'm with you. The original was great and I never got around to playing 2 but 4 was extremely boring to me.

However, I always found the GTA games prior to 4 enjoyable. Sure some of the mechanics were pretty crap but as a whole I thought they were entertaining.

Posted 1 year ago #
Ireland Michael
Moderator

Max Payne.

Someone please, please explain this one to me. It had dull and boring gameplay, and the slow-mo stuff was a horribly tacked on mechanic. I also found the art design tried way too damn hard.

Posted 1 year ago #
daytripper
Member

final fantasy, halo

Posted 1 year ago #
freedoms_stain
Moderator

I was going to say GTA but I've nothing to add to what OrbitMonkey said, which nailed it right on the head for me.

I never really understood the hardon most gamers have for Goldeneye either.

Never particularly enjoyed Halo.

Posted 1 year ago #
viralshag
Member

Oh man, Goldeneye... How could I forget about that one...

I "get" Halo, I just didn't enjoy it as much as other games.

Posted 1 year ago #
Yoshi
Member

First I gotta disagree with everyone saying the MGS series and GTA 4. MGS series in my opinion is something that stands out so well on its own within the games industry plus the whole game can either be played run and gun or sneaky. GTA 4, now I really don't see what all the hate is about, yes sure you can't go and fly planes etc. I think the main problem that people have with GTA 4 is that it was a step down with the options of craziness that you had. However it was a step up with graphics and mechanics. Maybe the next GTA can mix those together.

Now with me it has to be Gears of War, I played 5 minutes of the first and hated it. It was just so clunky and horrible. Final Fantasy, never really got that either.

Posted 1 year ago #
AHA-Lambda
Member

@Ireland - I can agree with this too. I did like it but yeah it did seem very overrated to me =/

Posted 1 year ago #
freedoms_stain
Moderator

@Yoshi, The biggest problem for me is the weapon handling. Pressing fire should fire my weapon once, but in GTA4 it doesn't, you have to hold down the fire button and there's a stupid delay before you actually shoot. The cover mechanics are pretty woeful too for similar reasons, you can't pop out, take aim, squeeze off a couple of shots then duck back in, you have to hold down the fire button and wait an age while Nico fires at stupidly low rates of fire.

They fixed it for RDR so they obviously recognised it was a bad mechanic.

AI is also pretty dumb (in combat at least), they don't act like real people would in a fire fight, they tend to do an awful lot of standing there firing very slowly, or charge at you despite the fact you've already gunned down 10 of their mates with an AK.

Story wise, yeah, I actually refer to Nico Bellic as Nico Bellend in my head, everyone in the game is a douchebag, I don't really care how the story goes, it's really uninteresting, I just want everyone to die so that there's no chance they ever appear in another game ever ever ever. I think if you've created a story where I can't like absolutely anything about it either in terms of plot or characterisation, then you've done pretty badly.

I bought the game so I feel like I should finish it, but it all feels like such a grind. Normally I quite like going for achievements in games, but GTA4 is rough going.

Posted 1 year ago #
Da Man
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Prior GTAs were as boring as the player himself is ;) , just like any proper sandbox game.

Red Dead Redemption, on the other hand, was a dull repetitive grindfest with terrible controls and an excuse for a combat, all masquerading as an interactive western.

Posted 1 year ago #
M. K.
Member

Sign every word in Freedoms_Stains post! GTA4 is the only game of this generation which I bought and didn't finish.

Posted 1 year ago #
BraveArse
Member

Totally agree with MGS, another game I feel like I should try again, but I just can't abide Kojima's attempts at film-making. The fact that he likened himself to Hayao Miyazaki said it all really. He wants to make films more than he wants to make games but he's just not good enough at it.

If it was all game and no cutscene, it'd be about a third the size and three times more enjoyable imo.

GTA - tough one. I loved them from 3 to Vice City but then I just found that San Andreas and 4 totally lacked in characters I could really empathise with. So I'd echo Freedoms_stain's characterisation and plot comment there.

Posted 1 year ago #
themadjock
Member

GTA and Mass Effect especially after my save corrupted in 2 on the PS3 losing 11 hours progress, was buggered if I was going to do all that planet scanning again :)

Oh yeah and Crysis, that game may have looked pretty but the gameplay sucked. I am enjoying the second one though

Posted 1 year ago #
Len
Member

Any MGS title ,except maybe the first, for me. I played that till about halfway through, got bored and have tried all the rest but they're just so clunky and annoying (to me). I can't stand them.

My other biggy is anything FF related...immmediate yawn fest from me.

Posted 1 year ago #
LOLshock94
Member

oblivion, resistance 1 and 2, alan wake, LA noire, batman arkham asylum, enslaved, dragon age, mirrors edge, tomb raider underworld

one game which beats all of these games has to be turok evolution

Posted 1 year ago #
Edo
Member

Definitely any GTA game,never understood what people see in those games.

Posted 1 year ago #
Perfectionist
Member

I agree with MGS4, it was just boring IMO. I also didn't really like the God of War or Gears of War series either.

Posted 1 year ago #
tenthousandgothsonacid
Member

Yep, I hated Bioshock too.

Also nearly anything Nintendo (Zelda, Mario etc etc etc) just winds me up. 3 lives ? Collecting coins ? This is not how videogames should be in 2011.

Posted 1 year ago #
tenthousandgothsonacid
Member

Oh aye, and GTA4 I found to be very dull despite completing GTA3, Vice Cit and 200 hours on San Andreas. They sucked all the fun out of the series for GTA4. I've tried 3 times to get into it and never got past the first few missions as they're so badly put together.

Posted 1 year ago #
DSB
Member

I can nod my head at a lot of the titles here. GTA IV was impressive technically, but like RDR, I just wasn't taken in by the substance. I recently did a playthrough where I just skipped the cutscenes, and for me that made the game twice as good. It's not poorly written like Deus Ex: HR, but absolutely nothing happens. It's like being a fly on the wall for a pointless conversation you were never supposed to witness.

HL2 is another one. The first one was mindblowing, but the second one just felt a lot like picking up where the first one took off, with slightly better tech, six years later. It's not a bad game, it's just very average, even if it has a few interesting scenes, overall it's too familiar.

I don't think it's hard to understand Max Payne. It was very simple, but what noir movie isn't? That's what defines them. It's black hats and white, with a few impostors, and that's all they need to engage eachother.

It was fashionably dark, it played out like one of those simple gangster or revenge action movies, bordering on grindhouse (like a mix between Last Man Standing and Death Wish) and a lot of the things it did was simply unique: Being able to see the flight of every bullet, especially in bullet-time (or using the sniper rifle) the drug-related plot, the killing of Max's family by junkies at the beginning, actually treating players to an adult scene like that, and the photo-realistic textures used for all the models. It was something that hadn't been done before, and the game played incredibly well.

Someone should do one about undeservedly forgotten games. World in Conflict, Little Big Adventure 1+2, Startopia, Jagged Alliance 2, Silent Storm - Stuff like that!

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