Playstation 3 May Be the Better Choice for Battlefield 3 on consoles

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Playstation 3 May Be the Better Choice for Battlefield 3 on consoles

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Started 1 year ago by Moonwalker1982
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Moonwalker1982
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Not liking this at all, since 360 is my console of choice for online gaming, plus all my friends are on it too.

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It looks PS3 owners would be getting a better looking port of Battlefield 3 than Xbox 360 owners will be entitled to. This isn’t because DICE wants to discriminate but because of the fact that the PS3 version of Battlefield 3 will support SPU-based deffered shading whereas the Xbox 360 version will only have tiled-based deferred shading.

DICE cites the reason as being the Xbox 360 not having SPUs, however it appears this will provide a better experience for PS3 owners as it’ll enable them to produce better visuals as having the ability to use the SPU+GPU together “raises the bar.” This also enables to offload some of the SPU’s work to the GPU, providing them with more space to create better looking shaders and environments.

Although, DICE says they’ll be able to use some of 360′s CPU power to offload its GPU’s work to an extent, it still wouldn’t provide them with the same level of freedom that having a dedicated SPU-based deffered system will for the PS3. Here are some slides taken out of their presentation:

You can read the rest of the article on their site that also has links to the slideshows DICE presented about the two different consoles.

So what do you think; Would the PS3 be the better choice between the two or do we need to wait and see the Xbox version? Fortunatly, for the Xbox crowd, there is the open beta for all platforms in September.[/b]

http://csnation.net/content.php?429-Playstation3-May-Be-the-Better-Choice-for-Battlefield-3-Consoles

Posted 1 year ago #
Erthazus
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For console fanboys. Seriously.

Never knew that someone believes EA crap.

Posted 1 year ago #
Christopher Jack
Member

@2, You came in there just to write that? Pfft.
Would have liked to see more developers make good use of the SPUs, but I guess it's just more effort some publishers don't want to waste the extra time on.

Posted 1 year ago #
mojo
Member

i wouldnt mind too much if i would be on 360.
after all its a MP Game.
MPs dont need grafical fidelity at all.
to say it straight: they are even funnier with less eye candy

no trolling, honest opinion.

Posted 1 year ago #
Erthazus
Member

"You came in there just to write that? Pfft."

Because it's true. Just because at EA they use PS3 version of the game does not mean that it will be better.
We already saw Co-op game on the PS3 which looked unimpressive to say at least. (I never thought that it will look like MoH on medium settings on PC lol)

"Would have liked to see more developers make good use of the SPUs"

Yeah, it's so hard to do it in 2011 that even ID Software can't make RAGE working on PS3 by using every SPU out there while 360 version works absolutely fine.

Stop it. CPU Broadband engine is the thing of the past. There is nothing to argue. Stop your fanboyism.

@mojo, "MPs dont need grafical fidelity at all.
to say it straight: they are even funnier with less eye candy"

Every FPS needs a good eye candy. Multiplayer or singleplayer does not matter. Graphics for the FPS is important.
you saw BF3 PC-64p Multiplayer footage? Now thats fantastic.

Posted 1 year ago #
Moonwalker1982
Member

@Erthazus

But apparently DICE said this themselves, i'd be surprised if the difference would be big, cause i really don't expect that at all. And like you said about Rage on PS3..that's all true. Guess we'll just have to wait and see...

No matter how people see it, it's goddamn stupid we've yet to see anything from the multiplayer from the console versions.

Posted 1 year ago #
Noodlemanny
Member

@Erthazus
Did you really just say that "Multiplayer or singleplayer does not matter. Graphics for the FPS is important.".
Seriously?
So your saying what the game is, how it plays and how good it actually is aren't important. Just what it looks like. Are you shitting me?

You always go on about console fanboy'ism' but the true is your just a fanboy of PC. Anything off the PC is shit. Which is even more shallow.

Posted 1 year ago #
Noodlemanny
Member

Also sitting here in my blind ignorance I don't actually know what a SPU is. Is it like a Shading Processing Unit?

Posted 1 year ago #
Christopher Jack
Member

I fail to see how the Cell Broadband Engine Architecture is a thing of the past when it's used in one of the top 10 fastest super computers in the world, as long as it's affordable to manufacture & easy to design for, I see no problems, the bigger problems in the PS3 is the split RAM & the shitty GPU.

Posted 1 year ago #
Erthazus
Member

@Noodlemanny,
"So your saying what the game is, how it plays and how good it actually is aren't important. Just what it looks like. Are you shitting me?"

no...no...

Game must be Good no matter what.
Gameplay is important and always will be important no matter what and no matter what genre it is.

But for the first Person Shooter visuals are important at the same level as gameplay. It's not RPG or RTS where visuals does not matter.
Without great physics or Visuals you could never make destruction in Battlefield or look at Uncharted visual fidelity.

"Also sitting here in my blind ignorance I don't actually know what a SPU is. Is it like a Shading Processing Unit? "

you are not blind at all. It's a normal thing for people to not know what it is.
SPU - Synergistic Processing Unit

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synergistic_Processing_Unit here you go.

Just start reading Architecture and you will know about it everything. Cheers.

"You always go on about console fanboy'ism' but the true is your just a fanboy of PC. Anything off the PC is shit. Which is even more shallow. "

Not true at all. There are things that i like only on consoles.
Games and my favourite genres. I own a console and will continue to own them.
It's just console is not open enough for modding, for social stuff, less features, pretty much after 1-2 years are old, no M+K support and many other things. Some genres don't work on consoles, not the best media center. You can't use it for every peripheral out there. It's not friendly with codecs because console is not an open platform.
I prefer PC exactly for these reasons.

@Moonwalker1982, "But apparently DICE said this themselves"

DANGER CLOSE or whatever that studio was behind Medal Of Honor said the same thing. In the end it was just a good port that was on par with Xbox 360.

Posted 1 year ago #
Noodlemanny
Member

Now you see Erthazus you come up with your pervious post and their all like 'ARRRR, GRRRR, ANGRY FACE'. Then you come up with the above post which is all like 'Hmmmm, Counter-argument, Consider-ness". (Guess thats what I've just done too)
Yes I would agree with you that graphics are for some reason much more important for FPS. Probably to flesh it out.
I would also agree with all the above problems with Consoles. I would say that PC are the better platform but for some reason I just prefer Consoles. Although Consoles are alot cheaper and generally have the same life-span as a PC (as long as they don't break). But then also when you buy a game for a console its pretty much guaranteed to work (glitches and corruption aside) whereas with a PC something might be incompatible or your PC might just not be quite good enough.
I don't really know why I tend to do all my gaming on my 360, but for some reason I just prefer it.

P.S. I would try to read that Wiki link but I find when you go to Wiki you tend to come out of it more confused than you where before. Particularly with technical stuff.

Posted 1 year ago #
Christopher Jack
Member

Most my favourite FPS have lacked impressive graphics, games like Timesplitters 2, Halo 3+Reach, Borderlands, Star Wars Battlefront & many, many more.

Posted 1 year ago #
Noodlemanny
Member

@CJ
Halo had great graphics in its day... I swear.
But no I'd say that good graphics aren't essential for a FPS it just seems like all FPS seem to have more of an emphasis for it. Like I said probably to flesh it out, RPG have all that levelling stuff, RTS have all that strategy and building stuff, whereas FPS don't really go very deep. Its just about shooting guys in the face. Not that thats a bad thing, its quite worryingly satisfying. So might as well add another thing to make it all the more nice to shoot a person multiple times.

Also Halo 3+Reach have good graphics. Better than like Dragon Age 2 (not to mention Origins) and errr... I've run out of examples I can think of, But I'd say the graphics for the Halo's are great.
Wait unless your comparing them to PC graphics. If you are then yes all recent console games have had more and more lacking graphics.

Posted 1 year ago #
Christopher Jack
Member

Halo 3 & Reach were borderline 'alright' in graphics quality & that's comparing them to other console games.

Posted 1 year ago #
OrbitMonkey
Member

Well if your a single console owner, it only matters how BF3 stands up to other games on your console surely? I mean I don't give a fuck how this will look on a pc/360, only how it looks on my ps3.

Plus the whole *better version* argument Is subjective. Quoting dev specs & boasting about better shading is only something that matters to forum fucktards tbh.

For example, If I had both a 360/ps3, but all my gaming buddies were on the 360, then that would be my *best version* due to the nature of the co-op/multiplayer gameplay, regardless of graphics.

Posted 1 year ago #
Erthazus
Member

@Noodleymanny, "you come up with your pervious post and their all like 'ARRRR, GRRRR, ANGRY FACE'."

because it's their problem if they can't keep up with the discussion. I didn't said something offensive to that guy until he started to call me suddenly an idiot.

you called me an idiot or retard right now? Nope. So why i must insult you? It's his problem.

"I would say that PC are the better platform but for some reason I just prefer Consoles"

i absolutely appreciate everyone's choice. Consoles are good for gaming too, much better than stupid iPad's or android devices. I hope that console market will continue to grow and i hope that one day it will overshadow iPads and etc.

It's important for me as a core console gamer because i can also enjoy console games on the PC.

Posted 1 year ago #
OlderGamer
Moderator

Better version aside, if I buy a console version(I wanted a Steam version), I won't be buying it for the PS3. Its just not worth dealing with the PS3 control pad. Plus like someone else already said, more of my friends will own the xb360 version.

Posted 1 year ago #
OrbitMonkey
Member

OG did you come sliding in here to try to start a war of words over *the best controller*? And you a moderator too?! For shame!! ;)

For the record the best controller Is whatever YOUR personal preference is & IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT OTHER PEOPLE USE.

Posted 1 year ago #
Christopher Jack
Member

Didn't look like he was shouting about that the DS3 is shit, just that he doesn't want to use it... There are alternatives OG, some really great ones too. I know that won't change your mind, obviously you just prefer the X360 experience altogether which is fine, I just think that complaining about a non-compulsory peripheral seems pointless, you could even use your 360 controller if you must.

Posted 1 year ago #
Gekidami
Member

^ lol As if it was really about the pad.

Posted 1 year ago #
OrbitMonkey
Member

@CJ, so you can use a 360 pad with the ps3? Modded or a 3rd party effort?

Posted 1 year ago #
Gekidami
Member

You get an adapter. There are also some third party PS3 pads that have the 360 layout.

Posted 1 year ago #
Christopher Jack
Member

Adapter http://au.gear.ign.com/articles/955/955499p1.html several different types. Doubt it'll work with a wireless controller though.

Posted 1 year ago #
lexph3re
Member

Always entertaining to hear people talk about because their friends are on something it automatically give's the better experience. That in turn make's no sense because that mean's you guy's are all on the same exact schedule to keep up with one another. But, whatever excuse make's you feel best. I don't buy my console's because of my friends this gen I can make new one's on that game and know they will be playing it.

Posted 1 year ago #
OrbitMonkey
Member

^ Riiiiiight, cuz people don't buy things on a friends recommendation, friends they may work/study with, friends they see most days. Nope DOES NOT HAPPEN, ALL GAMERS ARE SOOOO LONELY :(

Posted 1 year ago #
lexph3re
Member

That's not at all what I said or meant. What I said was the excuse that something is better because your friend's is on it show's a lack of independent thought. Yes you can be recommended something by a friend but does that automatically make it the best? I have ton's of friend's that recommend games to me and we don't even play on the same console and other's we play on the same. So again how does all your local or online friend's mean product A is the best? especially when possibly 70-80% of the time you guy's won't even be able to play with one another.

I have friend's I study with, talk to and hang with and we barely even get to play online with one another. Does that mean my console/s are weak? I don't think so. So, at the end of it I stand saying it is funny to hear people claim something's superiority or neccessity because their friends play on it or they think they will play with them.

Posted 1 year ago #
daytripper
Member

fuck sake orbit you need to chill, you make out og said his opinion was fact.

Posted 1 year ago #
Ireland Michael
Moderator

So a marginally difference in graphics makes for a better game?

The "best" version of this game will be whatever version that most of my friends will be playing, because Battlefield is, for me, a social experience.

In this case, that means the 360.

I personally couldn't give a rat's ass about the difference between two stupidly named graphical rendering technique, and neither should anyone else.

"What I said was the excuse that something is better because your friend's is on it show's a lack of independent thought."

No it bloody well doesn't. It simply means you want to be social with people you know. Some of us do actually like to interact with other human beings. Crazy thought, I know.

Why would I buy the PS3 version? Nobody I know is getting it. I *want* to play the game with my friends. Playing multiplayer games with random annoying people on the internet that I don't know bores me shitless.

"That in turn make's no sense because that mean's you guy's are all on the same exact schedule to keep up with one another."

I have two local friends that I play games on Xbox Live with a consistently regular basis.

We get home from work in the evening. We're usually on Xbox Live around 7pm - 8pm, just winding down from the day playing some games. So we regularly catch each other at the same time, and we usually play some multi-player games when all three of us are on.

We don't "schedule" it. It just happens that way. And I highly doubt I'm the only person who does this.

Posted 1 year ago #
lexph3re
Member

Are you an idiot? do you read thing's backwards or something? Can you only comprehend something on a defensive level? I said nothing about being anti social. I said you lack free thought to let your friend's decide what you enjoy. I told you i find a destinct value in the product. not only "Oh, my friend is playing on 360 so that's the best way to go" it's a lame excuse. I have ton's of game's I play that I MADE FRIENDS ON and play those games with them more then my local friends. WHAT ABOUT THAT SPELLS ANTI-SOCIAL!?

Posted 1 year ago #
Ireland Michael
Moderator

@lex Defensive? This isn't even about me. I'm just using my own experiences as an example to help point out the ignorance of your remarks.

You don't *need* to say anything about being anti-social. It's the simple fact that you don't seem to be able to understand that people's desire to play a game with people they know can be the sole defining factor of the game.

The simple fact that you can't comprehend how important that decision is in the buying process, and keep going back on the "they're dictating your choice" shows everyone clearly enough that you don't "get" the social aspect.

The experience is the same regardless of format. We're going to pick the format we can enjoy the game with our *actual* friends on. And when I say friends I mean people I go to the pub and hang out with, people I share the events of my life with, people whose faces I see on a regular basic.

Not random faceless usernames on the internet that I know nothing about. Hanging out with random people you've never met on the internet is not "social".

"I have ton's of game's I play that I MADE FRIENDS ON and play those games with them more then my local friends."

That's good for you. Most of us over the age of 25 don't have the time or inclination to "make friends" on the internet. We want to spend time with the people we already know, and we're simply accommodating each other.

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