Oh, and I'm waiting for your intelligent reply 'douche'.
Oh, and I'm waiting for your intelligent reply 'douche'.
After reading sg's post, I can't help but agree.
I've spent the last couple of weeks trying to keep the insane trolling, spam and harassment under some sort of manageable control entirely by myself. I've contacted staff, only to be told that its something I just have to "deal with".
No, it isn't.
I wouldn't accept a *paid* job being treated like this. I sure as fuck won't do it for free.
Manage your own mess, Pat.
I won't be moderating a single ounce of spam or trolling on the forums from this point onwards.
You now have no active mods. Have fun.
This is amazing.
Pat's in France writing porn by the way.
I tried to help. I offered many sugestions. The truth is the site needs site wide moderation. Period. But the fact is nothing can be done by Mike, Freedom, myself, or anyone else. Dave, Steph, or Brenna will most likly do some deleting. That helps today. But is not a long term solution.
Been Pats move for awhile now.
I guess Pat's too old to be mucking about, taking videogames seriously. We all grow up eh?
Peace out homies.
Its probably said many a times, but you can see that the troll (ChunkyLover112 aka makta112 aka Jesus Christ aka KingOfConsoles aka Javinator aka super3001 aka Legendarydouche) only enjoys attention.
It doesn't help that its a weekend, and we have got a new writer posting right now.
For what its worth, the site upgrade will soon come. However its sad that the site has been left "as is" by the people running it.
I still like the site very much, although this needs to change, fast.
Although its rather funny to see people waste their lives on an internet forum like this.
^^^ Can I be a writer on this site???
This site can go fuck itself, and so can 'pat' whoever that is, throw me an ip ban so I wont be tempted to come back.
There is plenty of other sites that post game related articles that give a shit.
Its to bad that there is only a small minority of good users on this site... And I mean no offence to the writers either. you guys are mostly underappreciated and do a good job.
P.S LegendaryDouche had nothing to do with me leaving, he is but a small annoying pinch of feaces in the massive abundance of shit users this site seems to attract.
VG247 = Very Gay 24/7
Where is Pat anyway?
I remember seeing him a couple months back asking us the best way to handle this situation but now that it's gone considerably much worse, he's nowhere to be found.
I really like this site. You had an excellent write-up on Doritosgate and a couple of amazing opinion pieces but now that the site has gotten much more toxic than it used to be, I wonder why I still even bother coming here.
this site used to be fun man... but now it's sad what it has come to. There was a time when this was the only site i had bookmarked, I liked (and still love) the format of information vg247 has.. and the comments section used to give another angle to the news.
but the staff has really dropped the ball here by not banning the crappy trolls, (Not counting steph, she does a lot of cleaning work from what i have noticed).
I bet pat and dave think that this whole wave of new trolls is a byproduct of the next-gen launch, that these guys will quit posting garbage, once the release windows have past, which might be true, but other people might leave because of these trolls.
here .made this while waiting for the breakfast
i also love this page. i really do. i can totally understand your frustration mike. og also pointed out several times that your hands as mods are pretty much tied. not responding to mails while all you are trying to do is making a good / unpaid (!) / job simply is disrespectful.
i also remember much better times here. the main thing that keeps me here is the bunch of older posters whose opinions i respect. there are some great new posters too though.
i thought this page has gone down the shitter a year ago but man, it got worse.
i love the articles, the staff is still doing a fantastic job. this site is fast, to the point. it has some very good posters too, with different but well rounded opinions (for the most part).
vg247 became much bigger, which is great. they're making shitloads of cash with this page, which is so well deserved but they should really really start to care about cleaning the house a little bit.
this page will continue to grow without many of us posting here. i have zero doubts about that. i understand that life is constantly changing. this site might just be a side project to patrick these days...but he started this place and he's responsible for it. if he doesn't have the time anymore that doesn't free him from his responsibility. he should be consequent. kill it, or empower other people to manage it properly. everything else is just lazy no matter how you look at it.
@zinc: we'll see about that. but let's just talk about it again after you turned 21 ok?
Pat used to be the editor, but nowadays there is no editor. Shit doesn't get edited full stop. The number of mistakes I see in articles is unreal. I guess Pat is busy handling the business end now? I think it's a shame that he's let the site go down so much, although I still reckon it's a quality site.
For my part, my life is already plenty busy, so I'm not that bothered if there's a bit too much trolling, or if I have to get my grammar brain raped by typos, but I think that as a professional site, someone should really be doing something.
Even a post once in a while would be reassuring. But anyway, let's all not lose our shit either like...
Can't believe this shit is still going on. I remember the glory days of Blerk, Psychotext and many, many others who made this a wonderful and informed community to be a part of. I was genuinely excited by VG247 back then, thought I'd found a place I really wanted to contribute too. Hell even shatner was a breath of fresh air from the sort of drivel which is spewed across the community and forums these days.
Hats off to Ireland Michael, Oldergamer, polygem, Joe Musashi, Gekidami and others who have stuck it out so long. Particularly Michael who I know has always done his best to keep the shit from drowning this place completely.
I remember when the Eurogamer communities were amongst the most toxic on the net, and over time they fixed it, but it requires time, resources and a real commitment to caring about building a better community, something which after Michael's post, doesn't seem to be present.
Hey guys. Its sunday and im out doing sunday things but i wanted to say I agree on many points, the site redesign is still being worked on. I get frustrated by the crap too, sincerely it fucks me off.
Here's why other sites dont have this problem.
IGN/EG/Gamespot etc have big payrolls with whole teams dedicated to moderation and site design.
VG247 is Pat, me, Steph, Brenna and Sam on a crappy old version of wordpress.
Think about that for a bit. I'm not saying you guys are wrong, i agree things need done, but were not as able to just throw piles of cash at things. We dont have the piles of cash that Polygon etc have anyway.
Redesign is slated for this month. More will follow.
@redwood completely untrue on my behalf. I dont think that at all.
@Robo_1, Hats off to polygem???
The poor user is always being disrespected because of his views. Ppl like Legendaryboss are always telling him he a marketing droid for Nintendo or how he should shut up because they are tired of his opinion. There is no respect for user opinions, ppl want others to think like them and when they don't they are ridiculed on the threads. Why not ban foul language and disrespectful jerks as well??? This site is full of cocky jerks who need to learn a lesson. If ppl want a CLEAN site, then don't post trash in comment sections. Foul language is everywhere on this site, bunch of uneducated fanboys!!!
Could just have an option to turn off comments. I like the site and its content, but couldn't care less about the comments or opinion. Just invites kids to troll it up.
@legendairydouche: ever considered picking up a wiiu man? seriously, it's awesome! totally where it's at gamingwise at the mo'!
@Polygem, I almost high-fived you right there.
That excuse doesnt float when you actively have Pat just saying "Deal with it lol" as the only response and action he's going to take (which is none).
@dave.. glad you red that :) it was obviously meant as a rhetoric. NO disprespect. but please man, look at this.
Note to Moderator,
Take my post off page 1 please. I was hoping someone would wake up and delete it as a statement of wrong doings, false argument, and free bullying that is going on the website.
You don't need to throw cash at anything. Just delete the banning accounts and stop being so goddamn complacent about harassment. Every regular thinks this community has gone to shit and is absolutely vile the way it is, and nobody can be bothered to do shit about it.
I've managed to keep the forums at least semi clean for the last two months by deleting countless harassing threads (by the obvious individuals). Look what happens to the forums after a day of not bothering. It's a fucking mess.
@sebastian, there are no active nods anymore. We're tired of offering suggestions and nothing getting done about the problems. Two of them rarely post anymore, and I refuse to mod. Don't worry, we know you're one of the good guys.
@robo, Thank you. I appreciate it.
Michael if you could see the wall Ive been banging my head off trying to get stuff fixed, you would need a microscope. Its been headbutted to powder. This notion that I'm complacent is off the mark. I can only work with what I've got.
"Its been headbutted to powder. This notion that I'm complacent is off the mark. I can only work with what I've got."
Considering your blind dismissal of my complaints in emails, I have to politely disagree. You know full well that 90% of the complaints I've made regarding negative behaviour on the site were harassments directed at other users, and yet you still felt the need to inform me that "This is the internet" and that I should "just ignore" it.
This has essentially been the only response I've gotten for months. It's bullshit, and you can clearly see the results of it. If you're not being complacent, actually speak up and tell us what's you're trying to do about the problem. Clearly the vast majority of the community doesn't agree with the rules, when singular individuals are allowed to harass whoever the fuck they want. They're stupid rules.
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