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1. Deacon
   Member

   Ok so I've seen numerous people on here stating how they're ONLY ever going to use pre-paid PSN cards to make purchases from now on, despite the free fraud protection being rolled out by Sony across all regions.

   To me, this seems like a pretty big inconvenience. And it also seems completely unnecessary.

   I hazard a guess that the people who've been saying this will continue to use their card details for other websites and online purchases, so I'm curious as to why they will no longer link the information specifically with PSN.

   This is more a personal gripe than anything..
   ....but please, share your thoughts ; )

   Posted 2 years ago #

2. mojo
   Member

   ive used my CC before the hack, and im gonna use it in future.

   Hell, when i got a cc for the first time, it only took 3 months before i got a call from my bank that there are suspicious transactions ongoing.
   In that time the only shop that got my cc details was amazon.

   that is no blaming amazon. i just want to say if u stop using cc on psn u should propably stop using it at all.

   Posted 2 years ago #

3. Deacon
   Member

   That's exactly my point.

   You can have your card cloned when using an ATM, and you're susceptible when using your card online in exactly the same way as with PSN.

   I dare say following on from the initial hack the PSN is probably one of the more secure networks out there! One would hope so anyway.

   Posted 2 years ago #

4. Christopher Jack
   Member

   As I've stated in another post, there's more than one reason to use a prepaid card.

   Posted 2 years ago #

5. Deacon
   Member

   Of course, and maybe I should've clarified. I'm just talking about those who seem to be ruling out using their CC with PSN as a result of the hack.

   I want to know if these people are serious or not!

   Posted 2 years ago #

6. Blerk
   Moderator

   I wouldn't have used my card with PSN *before* the hack. :-D

   My main issue (aside from saving money with the cards) is kids. I don't want to register my card against accounts and risk the kids buying the entire store.

   Posted 2 years ago #

7. Christopher Jack
   Member

   People are foolish & paranoid, even if it's about an unrealistic event. How many people actually know how the network acts & the possibility of another security breach? There's nothing wrong with being cautious.
   @Blerk, I actually mentioned that in my other post :P

   Posted 2 years ago #

8. Psychotext
   Member

   I don't let any website store my CC details other than Paypal... the PSN is no exception. Besides, you generally pay less for PSN cash when you buy it in card form.

   Posted 2 years ago #

9. Hunam
   Member

   A lot of people seem so forgiving these days. I mean the reason people are doing this is because they simply don't trust Sony any more. They were massively negligent in their data protection duties and I think people will stop buying from them all together because of that breach of trust. It might seem silly or petty you, but to some of us, you guys seem naive :P

   Posted 2 years ago #

10. Bluebird
    Member

    Then you might as well stop buying anything from any company that requires even a marginal amount of personal info from you. ;)

    Posted 2 years ago #

11. Deacon
    Member

    Can people not see that ANY website or online service can be hacked? And that off the back of this, Sony are now very likely to have one of the most secure networks around?

    Saying Sony were 'massively negligent' is pure flamebaiting, and I'm pretty sure the jury is still out. I'm not getting into that aspect.

    Like Bluebird says, if people are adamant that they will never again use their card details with PSN, then I wonder how they are going to treat other online retailers. Retailers that are just as susceptible to hacking - if not more so - than the new PSN.

    We've all been promised fraud cover by Sony, and I've still not heard of any credible or substantial fraud resulting from the hack.

    Posted 2 years ago #

12. Da Man
    Member

    What's the problem with those pre-paid cards? I buy them all the time digitally where I live, even managed to save some money. You just have to find the right seller and not buy those with suspiciously low prices.

    Posted 2 years ago #

13. OlderGamer
    Moderator

    How do you folks find points cards for less then the value of the points on the cards? I can't find any cards anywhere for less then the MSRP. I mean anywhere. Once in awhile I can find promotional "deals" with the cards included in some bundle. But not gonna buy a new system for a silly points card.

    Posted 2 years ago #

14. Da Man
    Member

    That's where they mostly come from, those promos. They're just being sold. I also bought a few with avatar items for free.

    Posted 2 years ago #

15. Blerk
    Moderator

    Online stores here in the UK quite regularly discount them. 2000 MS points from the dash is £18, iirc, but you can usually get a 2100 point card for about £15 - a nice saving.

    I've seen £20 PSN cards going for £17-£18, a similar saving.

    Posted 2 years ago #

16. Hunam
    Member

    The whole "Hackers will get into everything" defence is just head in the sand thinking. I don't understand why people are jumping to Sony's defence so hard when they were the ones that didn't secure your details properly and because of that someone else took them. You can't blame the opportunist thief 100%. They were probably just trying to hack PSN to disrupt it, then realised how easy it was to get their hands on everything and did just that. Ignoring all other evidence because it doesn't fit what you want to believe it sillier than me not trusting a company which has lost my details. More to the point that Sony seem to obfuscate the matter more than actually say what happened and why.

    Posted 2 years ago #

17. reask
    Member

    Sorry Blerk but I had to laugh at your post.
    I know you were talking about savings but think about it.
    How do you buy the on-line prepaid?
    With your cc. :)

    Posted 2 years ago #

18. Deacon
    Member

    Hunam, it can be seen from both sides.

    I, other than having no PSN for a few weeks, have not been affected at all by the hack.
    Wow so my personal details are floating around somewhere. When have they ever NOT been. The truth will soon emerge as to whether or not Sony had sufficient measures in place with regards to protecting our personal data. Slamming Sony for their grossly inadequate infrastructure is of course your prerogative, but it's hardly based on facts.

    I'm sorry but people 'not trusting Sony' are just plain idiots. I do not say this because of my allegiance either.
    Trust is not an issue when it comes to dealing with corporations.
    I may not trust Lloyds TSB or HSBC, but at the end of the day they are bound by financial services and regulations to the point where they simply cannot get away with any unjust behaviour.
    The same surely applies to Sony, as we will soon determine once all of these external companies conclude their investigations into the hacking.

    If they were negligent, we'll know soon enough.

    So Hunam, (not knowing your allegiance or setup) lets assume you've been a loving PS3 user since day 1 and had bought many things from the PSN to date.
    Are you now going to go down the pre-paid card route?
    Are you planning to use some form of pre-paid card for ALL online transactions?

    Posted 2 years ago #

19. mojo
    Member

    to clearify my point in post 2.
    i dont say ppl who dont trust sony anymore are silly.
    i never trusted them in the first place (as i dont trust any other company of that size) but i know that my bank has their watchdog over cc transactions and will inform me if something smells fishy.
    Furthermore when i see a suspicious transaction in the cc bill it just takes a call of 2 minutes and i have my money back.
    point is: yes, im getting grumpy over stolen personal info or cc info, but on the other hand theres realy not much a single one can do about it.
    Goverments need to take action, not the customer. He doesnt have any power. not anymore.

    Posted 2 years ago #

20. Blerk
    Moderator

    Well, quite reask! But like I said, my reasons for not putting my CC details on PSN (or Live) are to save money and to protect me from fraudulent transactions from my own family rather than hackers. :-)

    Posted 2 years ago #

21. Dr.Ghettoblaster
    Member

    To answer original posters question, yes, I signed into PSN on Monday and immidiately removed my financial info. I know the hackers already have it, I get that.

    My reasoning is because there were threats (or rumors) of another attack after PSN went back up. I don't need my shit stolen again and possibly to a different population of hackers, so what's the point of leaving it up there taking any chances?

    I do trust Sony, so it's not about trusting Sony, it's the hackers I don't trust knowing how smart and powerful they are (technically that is, certainly not PR wise...) Why take the risk if I don't have to?

    Posted 2 years ago #

22. Gekidami
    Member

    ^ The hackers dont already have your financial info...

    Posted 2 years ago #

23. Dr.Ghettoblaster
    Member

    ^ As if you or I would even know

    Posted 2 years ago #

24. Gekidami
    Member

    The evidence points to them not having it. Both on Sonys side, and on the banks side. Saying that you KNOW the hackers have it is ridiculous.

    Posted 2 years ago #

25. Dr.Ghettoblaster
    Member

    HA! The network was breached in the worst possible way, saying that you KNOW they don't have it is ridiculous. You can do what you like and believe what you're told, I'll do what I like and make sure I'm safe going forward, thanks.

    Posted 2 years ago #

26. reask
    Member

    All I know is the gits dont have mine because I got me a new one. :)

    Posted 2 years ago #

27. Yoshi
    Member

    ^ Clever little bot

    Posted 1 year ago #

28. freedoms_stain
    Moderator

    Indeed, spam be gone.

    Posted 1 year ago #

29. Deacon
    Member

    Me being the curious little monkey that I am, I would now like to know if anyone in our little corner of the internet had any adverse effects brought on by the PSN hack last year?

    No fanboy bullshit please. Just share your story if you have one.

    Posted 1 year ago #

30. lexph3re
    Member

    Not a single glimmer on my end. And I never changed my CC info. Honestly, I haven't heard a single legit story on the issue. On the other hand I have heard more on 360 owners getting their accounts stolen along with their money. Been quite an interesting year to be honest.

    Posted 1 year ago #

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