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1. OlderGamer
   Moderator

   Recently we have had a couple of really good old school style releases.

   This week brings us Bangai-O HD and Moon Diver.

   If your a Dreamcast fan you know Bangai-O already. This is a hard as nails, eye candy laden, shooter I believe to have been developed by Treasure. Great game, were you jump, bounce, float and fly through enimy filled stages blasting everything.

   MoonDiver was a bit of a suprise for me. Its an old school style 2D side scroller beat em up game from Square Enix. I say Beat em up but its more then that, this ain't no Final Fight. You have four chars, each with different skills/styles. Each char can level up and be customized with new skills. The game is four player local co-op and over LIVE. Flashy graphics, tight control, vertical and horizonial stages filled with baddies. I liked what I played and will jump back into it later on.

   Bangai-O is 800msp and Moon Diver is 1200msp.

   Instead of talking about games and systems that can't be played, I thought I would share a couple that can be played. Somewhere in the fanboy rehtoric certian people forget to ask why some of us play more on one system we own over the other.

   For me that reason has always been games like Bangai-O and Moon Diver.

   Posted 2 years ago #

2. Blerk
   Moderator

   Outland (released last week) was really good too.

   I'm cross at Moon Diver for having day-one DLC, though. Not cool.

   Posted 2 years ago #

3. OlderGamer
   Moderator

   Agreed about the DLC, just the world we live in tho :(

   Posted 2 years ago #

4. Kerplunk
   Member

   Instead of talking about games and systems that can't be played, I thought I would share a couple that can be played. Somewhere in the fanboy rehtoric certian people forget to ask why some of us play more on one system we own over the other.

   Cute.

   Bangai-O has already been out on numerous formats for years including N64, DS and Dreamcast.

   Moondiver has already been released for over a month on PSN.

   But, yes, this is why Mr Neutral here likes to talk about XBLA as though it's the promised land for games.

   And, so long as you ensure you only tell people half a story, you can make that sort of impression to those willing to swallow it. Your FUD and bias is pretty obvious to those with objectivity.

   ---

   What I REALLY find distasteful about you, 'Oldergamer', is that you're as bad a platform fanboy as anyone out there. TEA or anyone else. But you love to present your little agenda and put 'innocent' remarks like "just my two cents" at the end of things to make it appear as though you're just a simple guy.

   The amount of crap, bordering on xenophobia in some cases, I've read from you and the way you have endorsed and approved certain people bashing others (but only in one direction, you never show the same approval when the situation is reversed) shows you up more and more as quite a nasty piece of work but with enough wits to wrap up your spite in some soft words and innocent sounding phrases.

   For me, this is the most detestable type of gamer today - the fud-spreading two-faced gamer: evangelising that they're all about the games when they're pushing the fucking idiotic politics just as much, if not more, than most. I'd rather have an out and out fanboy than some two-faced who isn't honest with themselves or with others. I can't stand people that think they can hide their agenda in softly-spoken words - deliberately being misleading and dishonest. Pretending to be the voice of reason whilst spreading your poison.

   But, you know, just my two cents.

   Posted 2 years ago #

5. OlderGamer
   Moderator

   By all means Kerplunk tell us how you feel. Don't hold back ... go ahead ...

   Posted 2 years ago #

6. daytripper
   Member

   oh for fuck sake, this is ridiculous

   Posted 2 years ago #

7. OlderGamer
   Moderator

   Getting old isn't it Day?

   Posted 2 years ago #

8. daytripper
   Member

   yes, everyone needs just to chill. hopefully psn will be back up tonight or tommorow and everyone can stop, breathe and play games.

   Posted 2 years ago #

9. reask
   Member

   Getting a bit heavy guys.
   Chill out its a games site for goodness sake.
   Less personal attacks all round would be a better way to go imo.

   Posted 2 years ago #

10. Anonymous
    Unregistered

    Kerplunk said: "What I REALLY find distasteful about you, 'Oldergamer', is that you're as bad a platform fanboy as anyone out there. TEA or anyone else. But you love to present your little agenda and put 'innocent' remarks like "just my two cents" at the end of things to make it appear as though you're just a simple guy".

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9NIZOvfKpc&NR=1

    "The amount of crap, bordering on xenophobia in some cases, I've read from you and the way you have endorsed and approved certain people bashing others (but only in one direction, you never show the same approval when the situation is reversed) shows you up more and more as quite a nasty piece of work but with enough wits to wrap up your spite in some soft words and innocent sounding phrases".

    What beautiful words you speak Kerplunk. Every word I read is like I hear beautiful music whispered in my ear :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4IRMYuE1hI&feature=related

    Kerplunk said: "I'd rather have an out and out fanboy than some two-faced who isn't honest with themselves or with others. I can't stand people that think they can hide their agenda in softly-spoken words - deliberately being misleading and dishonest. Pretending to be the voice of reason whilst spreading your poison".

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95SYdjRVCR0&NR=1

    Kerplunk said: "But, you know, just my two cents".

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jdzy4mI1Vu8&feature=related

    Posted 2 years ago #

11. StolenGlory
    Member

    I like to play games.

    Posted 2 years ago #

12. M. K.
    Member

    Moon Diver looks great, but I have other games in my queue. Scott Pilgrim, Trials HD, Armed Assault und Geometry Wars 1+2 want to be played :(

    Not to mention stuff that I have to buy like Dishwasher, Fancy Pants Adventures and Outland.

    Posted 2 years ago #

13. Blerk
    Moderator

    Christ, do we really need to do this all the time now?

    Posted 2 years ago #

14. daytripper
    Member

    outland is good from what i've played via the demo, moon diver i enjoyed from psn and will buy soon. hoping for some real genuine quality multiplayer xbla/psn games with lasting commuinities like warhawk or something, monday night combat was ok but not worth the money imo.

    Posted 2 years ago #

15. Dr.Ghettoblaster
    Member

    ***not touchin' this one with a ten foot pole, i've had enough of my own troubles in the forums already lol***

    Posted 2 years ago #

16. M. K.
    Member

    monday night combat was ok but not worth the money imo.

    Why? I loved and played it for months, but the first patch ruined it and I deleted it :(

    Posted 2 years ago #

17. daytripper
    Member

    i just thought it felt a bit flimsy, felt at times a bit "meh" in terms of fighting other players, didnt like the controls, art style wasnt to my liking. each to their own m.k :-D

    Posted 2 years ago #

18. Anonymous
    Unregistered

    You're welcome to say whatever you like Dr.G. You impersonated me and I'm the only one who should have gave you any trouble for doing that but I found it quite entertaining and admirable. So whatever shamefulness you have from that let me uplift it off of you right now and walk through the halls of VG247 as a clean man.

    As far as Kerplunk's comments goes I thank you so much for stepping out in the spot light and speaking on a matter that so many people are afraid to open their mouths about. Its people like him who teach our youth who are now brought up online socially to be and act that way. Its up to us to stop two faced people like him from spreading lies and corrupting our young children and gamers and teach them right morals how to behave online because the fact of the matter is more youth are now being taught from the net than in real life by parents.

    What you spoke about wasn't just about video games but about life in general and I won't stand by anymore and let it corrupt the younger generations to come in this industry/hobby. I'm far from being an innocent angel myself, but one thing I'm not is "TWO FACED WOLF in SHEEP CLOTHING"

    Thank you for standing up and calling a "spade a spade"

    Posted 2 years ago #

19. LOLshock94
    Member

    if you like old retro games then you may like shadow complex. sure the graphics are new and so is the gameplay new but i cant help thinking that the game plays like the old metroid games

    Posted 2 years ago #

20. daytripper
    Member

    yeah shadow complex is awesome, wouldnt be surprised if there is a sequel announced at E3

    Posted 2 years ago #

21. Dr.Ghettoblaster
    Member

    ^ Oh man, if there's a sequal announced to Shadow Complex I'll shit my pants. Actually, that's exactly what Microsoft needs right now, more exclusives so here's hoping they know what they're doing and announce it!!!

    Posted 2 years ago #

22. OlderGamer
    Moderator

    Pretty sure I saw something about Shadow Complex 2 somewhere. And your right very cool game. I played it on my sons account. If there is a second one I will get that for myself.

    As far as Monday Night Combat goes, I was suprised I enjoyed the game. Bought it and played mostly with some family who did the same. Lil' different tho.

    Do you still play Warhawk Day? I got that when it launched, was a lot of fun, but haven't played it in awhile. And I think I am a few updates behind.

    Posted 2 years ago #

23. daytripper
    Member

    yep i do pal, usually play zones or capture the flag. plenty still play it, i'm a 3rd person player really but will make exceptions for the likes of killzone 3, crysis 2 and half life. for me warhawk is the nearest thing to a star wars battlefront 3, a title i'm still very much bemused with the fact it hasnt hit 360,ps3, PC and angry at lucasarts for.

    Posted 2 years ago #

24. OlderGamer
    Moderator

    SW Battlefront III seems like a no brainer to me. Long over due.

    Posted 2 years ago #

25. Crab of Thunder
    Member

    I would so love a SW Battlefront 3!

    Posted 2 years ago #

26. daytripper
    Member

    there was a rumour about spark unlimited making it, so i e-mailed them a couple of months ago, its a copy and paste job but at least they replied

    "Unfortunately, our NDA’s (non-disclosure agreement) with publishers prevents us from talking about the products we work on. It’s is up the publisher and their marketing/PR engine to determine what information is given out and when. Word on that game really has to come straight from Lucas Arts. You do have to realize that publishers have a plan – be it good or bad – to release information. These days a publisher will typically wait to after the holidays to announce a game. They don’t want to cannibalize their holiday sales. So, it if it going to be announced, I would it will be during the announcement season of March through June.

    Regards”

    Posted 2 years ago #

27. lexph3re
    Member

    @Og aye do you think you could change your wording abit in your statement? I don't want to be outright but it does come of pretty fanboyish. Moonsdiver was out on psn for over a month but in your article you make it seem like it is a XBLA Gem. Just from one guy to the next your original postdoes kinda show a biasness about you. And I know you tend to try to come of neutral so its definetly points against that scale.

    As for the other game, haven't heard to much about it so hope I get a chance to try it out. That recommendation is appreciated.

    Posted 2 years ago #

28. OlderGamer
    Moderator

    Well Lex, I could edit the post using mod tools. But I would rather not. Editing posts, mine or otherwise aren't why I was made a mod in the first place. I'd feel like I was abusing the priviledge.

    As for adressing bias.

    Lets be honest we all have a bit of bias. You, for example have a PS3 bias. I lean Xbox(play PC/Steam most tho). However that doesn't mean that someone, me or you can't also enjoy games on other systems. It also doesn't mean that we have to go around attacking one system or the other.

    In truth I have been a multi system gamer dating back to the Atari and Colleco-Vision days.

    As for Moon Diver, I had no idea it was on PSN when I made the post. None of us have been on PSN in awhile. And I missed it when it launched. About a month or so back I was playing Steam hot and heavy, I wasn't on too much with either system.

    And what systems a game is on doesn't detract its value from another system the game might also be on. Meaning that I can like XBLA and you can like PSN over the same game. Its all good.

    As for my why I like XBLA because of games like Bangai-O and Moon Diver, I stand by it. Last week, it got a 2D side scrolling shooter from SNK Playmore, very cool game. I know PSN also has a few games of the same ilk. There was one bullet hell game I wanted on PSN but it didn't have a demo, so I passed on it.

    All I was trying to do was showcase a couple of games I thought were fun to play. And gave brief descriptions.

    Unlike some might have you believe I don't have some master plan. I am not stalking threads or creating threads to slander anyone. I am not wearing a viel, not putting on some sort of act. I am just me.

    Posted 2 years ago #

29. Anonymous
    Unregistered

    (just his two cents people) ;)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDlRY1Wf-ns&NR=1 :)

    Posted 2 years ago #

30. lexph3re
    Member

    I understand completely I just wanted to see if it could be clarified to avoid future attacks. I am glad to have heard your side before making any rash choices and words. I like to listen, think, the discuss so again good to hear all your facts.

    Posted 2 years ago #

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