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1. Big N
   Member

   Hello there,

   I'm opening this thread to ask you to sign an online petition because of the lack of official price for Nintendo 3DS in Europe, letting to retailers fix the final price as their will, fact that ensures an unequal price compared to other markets like the US and Japan. In Spain, for example, the exchange made is 1 dollar=euro, something totally unfair.

   If you think that Europe deserves a better and a fair price for Nintendo 3DS, please sign this petition: http://www.petitiononline.com/fair3ds/petition.html

   Posted 2 years ago #

2. Syrok
   Member

   I suggest just waiting until it drops to a price you are willing to pay. Less people buying at that price also sends a stronger signal than filling out an online petition.

   Posted 2 years ago #

3. freedoms_stain
   Moderator

   Retailers will only be firing up provisional prices right now surely?

   Posted 2 years ago #

4. Anonymous
   Unregistered

   "If you think that Europe deserves a better and a fair price for Nintendo 3DS, please sign this petition"

   LMAO its a gameboy dude just wait until it drops in price. It will soon enough because if more people feel the way you do, which I think they do considering my travels around the net stores over there will have no choice but to price it reasonable.

   But its great how you guys always get fucked :D I say over throw the queen and the government :D

   Posted 2 years ago #

5. OlderGamer
   Moderator

   Does anyone else feel that an over priced 3DS might just move exsisting DS systems? I am not going so far as saying Nintendo is over pricing this thing on purpose. But maybe. Also a truly pricy 3DS almost ensures that manufactoring can keep pace with sales. Plus the systems that do sell, are going to bring in extra cash.

   What i really wonder is how much it costs Nintendo to make the system. That is where this conversation starts and stops. If they are losing money of each sale - they pulled a Sony. A dumb move to over achieve on hardware that basicly pushes the system out of reach for the bulk of your intended market. If they systems are no where near this expensive to porduce, then shame on Nintendo for price gouging - and see paragraph one.

   Posted 2 years ago #

6. frostquake
   Moderator

   @ OlderGamer

   I assure you Nintendo is not pulling a Sony. They will not be loosing money on the 3DS. I would gather that since they are riding the Money wave and the fact that they can put out about anything and with all the hype that happened with the Wii, they will ride the Hype wave as well. I am already seeing all kinds of news on the 3DS, from local to national.

   Nintendo is very much a "guarantee" right now, kind of perception they can do no wrong. When your riding that gravy train you don't have to loose money on the 3DS. They had a good profit margin on the Wii at launch compared to the other profit margins on the other Launch consoles. Of course over time cost come down, but there is absolutely no reason for them to loose money on the 3DS. I will ask around and try to find out, but I am sure it will be posted to VG247 when it is found out.

   Oh and OlderGamer..what is "porduce" is that like "pork+produce"? LOL..Just jiving you..LOL

   Posted 2 years ago #

7. Erthazus
   Member

   @OG, Reggie said that they will never lose money on the hardware. They are going to make a profit out of it... I think before pricing it to 250$ they still could make money out of it. Hardware is really cheap. It's almost the same as PSP. some parts even cheaper like two CPU's.

   @frostquake, you are mistaking here a LOT. People said the same about PSP when it launched. They said that it is the final nail in the coffin to the Nintendo DS.

   But now, Nintendo do exactly the same thing what Sony did in the past. 3DS feels like a Last Generation handheld with 3D on top of it for the unfistified price and not so great launch line up full of ports or OK games for again, unjustified price for games with Region lock on top of it.
   Today market is a little bit different then 5 years ago. Apple eats Nintendo market right now really fast and with this shit that they introduced... "3DS" i mean, i can guarantee you that it can be a flop.

   It's 50/50 right now. 50% of failure and 50% that it will succeed because of hype. But something tells me something is not going to work out, especially if PSP2 is going to be a good device with justified price. But that again depends on Sony's part.

   Posted 2 years ago #

8. Big N
   Member

   I really hope that Nintendo 3DS crashes at launch, I hope that Nintendo will be forced to lower the price of Nintendo 3DS. 250 euro/230 GBP for a Nintendo handheld is a robbery, knowing that Nintendo wants to reach the mass market.

   I have to add that I have been a Nintendo fan all my life, but this is too much.

   PD: More than 300 signings in 3 days, thanks a lot.

   Posted 2 years ago #

9. Len
   Member

   Nintendo never lose money on hardware they always make money on each piece sold, always have, always will.

   As others have said though, if your not keen on the price, vote with yr wallet and don't buy it. I'll consider it when I move over to the US next month so around £150 but no way would I pay £220 over here.

   Posted 2 years ago #

10. frostquake
    Moderator

    @ Erthazus

    Everyone around me has already gone to GameStop and dropped their $50 US on the 3DS. The only ones who know the Specs of the hardware are my friends who work at GameStop. The rest of my friends, which include Mom's who know nothing about gaming, are reserving it based on the hype they are hearing from the news.

    Several Mom's have had their 7-8 year old's come home and said "Mom their is a new DS and the games won't work with my old one, so the Mom's are just walking in and reserving the 3DS, based on the hype.

    I will say this, if nothing new launches this year, the 3DS will rule the year. And that coming from someone, who doesn't even like the DS. My wife is the DS player of the house.

    Now if the PSP2 comes out this year, which if it does it will probably be in the third or fourth quarter, if this year at at all, then it will give some competition. It certainly will NOT be the NAIL in the coffin though. I suspect the PSP2 will be $50 to $100 US more then the 3DS. Now Parents DON"T CARE about which is more powerful when they are buying a Christmas Gift for their 8 year old, they will care about the price. If the PSP2 can be the same price as the 3DS then it will be interesting to watch.

    And I am not wrong about Nintendo always making money. I have seen the cost data of the big 3, and Nintendo has always made a profit on their hardware, while Sony and Microsoft profits up front have been on the negative side at launches.

    So I think your disagreeing with me on the "Hype" factor Erthazus, which is fine. The media is Hyping it Big Time, and unless we get something new this will be the year of the 3DS, for a lack of nothing else.

    I am setting money aside every month for the PSP2...but as of right now I am clueless if we will see it this year, and if we do it will probably be Oct, Nov, or Dec.

    I definitely prefer the PSP2 over the 3DS myself, but if the PSP2 doesn't come out in time for Christmas, the new gaming device under the Christmas Tree will be the 3DS.

    Posted 2 years ago #

11. Ireland Michael
    Moderator

    internetpetitionslol

    Posted 2 years ago #

12. OlderGamer
    Moderator

    Frosty you keep hitting it right on the head bud, in the western markets handhelds = toys for kids. I know some of us on this website flip for em, but I wish they would put that in perspective against the greater whole. Traditional handhelds in the west aren't what they are in the east. In the end I guess is doesn't matter either way. Just kind of funny to me is all.

    And before anyone hates - I own a PSP, and have put a lot of hours(over 150) into Phantasy Star Portable and Phantasy Star Portable 2 each.

    Just that when I go to family gatherings, each and every signle kid there has a handheld, and most of them are indeed gameboys.

    Posted 2 years ago #

13. Goffee
    Member

    Okay then, how much would pay for the PSP2? http://bit.ly/hTxvWf

    Posted 2 years ago #

14. Joe Anderson
    Member

    It's £199 for the 3DS at ShopTo at the moment if anyone doesn't want to pay over £200.

    Posted 2 years ago #

15. xino
    Member

    shopto think they are making money, but they are losing money!

    because they don't allow users to set their own delivery, you can only set your own delivery address after place a couple of orders.

    which is bullsh*!

    security reason my ass!

    Posted 2 years ago #

16. Erthazus
    Member

    @frostquake,

    Again you missed the point. Apple is eating Nintendo's market right now. No mom is going to buy 50$ game for the handheld, when iOS device games cost from 0.59 to 10 bucks and iPod touch cost on amazon only 209$ for example and has much better visuals, design. does much more. Kids don't care what games they want to play when they are at school. They are not gamers in their age and you are right that moms don't care about specs, but they care about the price and thats where it does a lot of wrong. PSP had the similar problem. Huge hype behind it.

    Moms and kids don't care about the specs, but i mentioned specs because games looks like almost at the PSP level, they are better then PSP of course... But thats the same thing like saying: Gamecube graphics are better then on PS2.

    The hype is still questionable. 250$ for the US and 50$ games is a total Rip Off.

    Posted 2 years ago #

17. Deacon
    Member

    My post in not in the least bit constructive, I just had to give my 10 cents.

    Do you HONESTLY think Nintendo give a fuck that people may be petitioning to lower the price of the 3DS? As many people before me have already stated, the hype & Nin's reputation alone will ensure the 3DS fucking FLIES off shelves when it launches. Now factor in all the children who ABSOLUTELY MUST HAVE the new 3D Pokemon or whatever... I sure as hell wouldn't buy my son an eye-destroying ; ) handheld, but there are a boat-load of parents who will.

    Petitioning for a 'fair' price....

    WORK SOME OVERTIME! - GET A SECOND JOB! - or shit.. maybe just DON'T BUY ONE at launch????

    Here in the UK we always get dicked when it comes to £££.
    - you could always move to Taiwan ?

    Since when was anything in this world fair anyway ?

    Posted 2 years ago #

18. xino
    Member

    or maybe you are a fool who loves being suckered for your money, or just another loyalist who love paying publishers your monthly gaming bill!

    Posted 2 years ago #

19. frostquake
    Moderator

    @Erth

    5 years ago I would have disagreed with you. 5 Years ago, Suburban Mom's didn't give a Rat's Behind, about price. They would have bought the 3DS with no thought.

    I will tell you this, I am around a Ton of Mom's and when you Mention iPod anything around them regarding their kids, the first thing out of their mouths is my kid is too young to have a phone. I said no that their is an iPod Touch without a phone. They then ask, where do you buy the games? Do you go into Walmart, or Target...I then explain nope you get it online or on the iPod Touch, just buy what you like...

    They then HATE the idea of having a credit card on file and letting their kid just buy whatever. They tell me at least the DS or PSP, they know what their kid is getting and how much money is being spent. Even if I tell them there are iPod Gift Cards... they hate that idea, too much trouble.

    You see, though the iPod Touch may be cheaper in the long run, for Suburban moms its all about Convenience and Quickness.

    For a Mom, it is easier for her just to buy the game that the kid just threw into the shopping basket, then worrying about storing a credit card, buying gift cards. And, Moms sure don't like the fact that Junior or Little Misses may be in the bedroom downloading with out them seeing that. They do know what they are playing in their DS or PSP, because they just bought the game.

    I have a 16 year old family member who uses her phone to facebook, twitter and basically socialize, then She DSi's at home.

    Her 12 year old brother is not allowed to have a phone or an iPod, because he is irresponsible, but can take his PSP with him everywhere.

    My 3 year old cousin has a DSi, and there is no way her mom is going to give her an iPod Touch!

    Mom's see the iPod as a phone, know matter what, even if it is just an iPod Touch. Apple needs to address this. I will tell you this though, NO parent I know is going to post a Credit Card to an account and give that iPod Touch to their kid...they would go wild with it.

    With the Economy still going down, and if Apple tweaked their advertising to dumb it down for Suburban Moms then things would get interesting

    Posted 2 years ago #

20. Nesvrstani
    Member

    Hah, an online petition? Come on. What are you... 12? A small petition [no matter how big it grows] won't stop the hyenas that sell them to cut the price. [not talking about Nintendo] I'm from Europe too, so I do know what you're talking about.

    Posted 2 years ago #

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