http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8792 Just another bbPress community en-US Wed, 19 Jun 2013 06:44:37 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 q http://www.vg247.com/forum/search.php http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8792#post-45088 Tue, 12 Mar 2013 23:25:27 +0000 Eddie Rodrigues 45088@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>- Dead Space 3 MT system was a mistake from the beginning. ALTHOUGH... the micro-transactions ARE optional. No one has bought them. EA won't put in their next games (table consoles/PC and Vita/3DS I mean)</p> <p>- Real Racing 3 is a cellphone game, it is truly obvious that Micro Transactions will take place in this kind of game</p> <p>- Again. Cellphone game.</p> <p>I am one of the few, VERY FEW, persons on the galaxy that actually can see past EA's mistakes and give each particular studio within it a well deserved credit/complaint, so you can't just assume it is a wholly bad/shit/terrible company for mistakes like DS3. Also back to the Cellphone industry issue: since the very start of the App Store on iPod Touch and iPhone use micro-transactions to explore to the very bit the player who wants the free version of the game. AND THAT IS FINE. Cellphone games aren't meant to be taken seriously unless you actually BUY them, which usually results in A) A decent developed game with 2 or more hours of content if not a "endless" game; or B) A shit game that isn't worth the megabytes used to cloud storage every tiny bit of its miserable existence. Android and iOS games are just a casual fun between classes or when you are waiting at a restaurant for you food to be ready or table to be available. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8792#post-45051 Mon, 11 Mar 2013 23:09:25 +0000 nollie4545 45051@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>How has Valve fucked anyone? From what I can see they virtually beg you to buy stuff by selling it at a ridiculously low price? </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8792#post-44966 Sat, 09 Mar 2013 16:46:11 +0000 Phoenixblight 44966@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>Dead Space 3 wasn't ruined infact they had made it better then the previous games,imo. I honestly didn't know about the microtransactions until I went into the store but what did they do with it? They allow you to earn token in turn you can use to buy some of the DLC. What is this blasphemy? Aren't they supposed to be bleeding us dry? I could just keep playing the game and earn rewards through the store. </p> <p>This thread is pretty rich. Sim City will get hammered out and fixed and yes it really sucks that those that bought the game are unable to play it because of this always-on connection but EA knows this will effect their bottom line and that's why they are giving a free game to try and appease those that bought the game. When I have played it, I have enjoyed it immensely. Just have to wait for them to hammer these bugs out. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8792#post-44963 Sat, 09 Mar 2013 15:11:51 +0000 stretch215 44963@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>I am (literally) laughing my ass off reading some of these posts. "Boycotting" game publishers. You guys are hilarious. When the games stop being fun, there's cause for concern. But from what I've heard from those who actually played ds3, it's a fun game. You guys ate going to miss some good experiences for a silly reason. There are many (real) issues in this world you should use that energy to take a stand against. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8792#post-44960 Sat, 09 Mar 2013 14:54:00 +0000 DSB 44960@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>I think it's pretty easy to establish some companies as worse than the rest.</p> <p>A business is a business, and there's always going to be a finite limit of how much they truly care. What you can look at is the difference in approach.</p> <p>Some go out of their way to help the indie scene, some lowball developer budgets, and then close the studio when it predictably fails, others still allow developers to delay their titles six times, some spend millions on DRM that only make games worse, and some find solutions that work for everyone.</p> <p>There's a big difference in the approach, and simply copping out and pretending like everybody's equally scummy is not really looking at the facts. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8792#post-44958 Sat, 09 Mar 2013 14:04:25 +0000 The_Red 44958@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>@Talkar<br /> Nobody is saying EA is worse than the rest when it comes to effing the consumers but look how they have ruined 3 actual games in span of a short time. </p> <p>And when comes to SimCity, they have pretty much the game unplayable. At least Dead Space 3 and Real Racing 3 work. SimCity = A full priced game you paid for but can't play. Did Valve make Portal 2 singleplayer only? Heck, even Left 4 Dead games work without always online even thought they ARE multiplayer games. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8792#post-44956 Sat, 09 Mar 2013 13:53:04 +0000 Talkar 44956@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>I think there are worse publishers around than EA, just look at Valve. They are at least as bad as EA, they are just way smarter about it. They've found a way to fuck their customers over and have the customers love Valve in the process. That is fucking brilliant! </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8792#post-44907 Fri, 08 Mar 2013 23:50:07 +0000 HauntaVirus 44907@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>Down with EA! </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8792#post-44831 Fri, 08 Mar 2013 01:52:35 +0000 freedoms_stain 44831@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>viral, most those franchises existed before EA acquired the studios that developed them.</p> <p>Mass Effect 1 was developed before EA acquired Bioware. Mass Effect 2 was developed after, and was distilled down into a 3rd person cover shooter, losing much of its RPG elements.</p> <p>Similarly, Dragon Age: Origins had been in development for years prior to the EA acquisition. Dragon Age 2, developed after, was distilled down to a more Action/Adventure game with RPG elements.</p> <p>DICE seem to have gotten off with dumbing down initially because Refracter 2 couldn't run on consoles. Then came Frostbite...</p> <p>SimCity was another pre-EA series. </p> <p>As for their sports licences, if EA didn't have em, somebody else would. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8792#post-44825 Fri, 08 Mar 2013 00:34:35 +0000 Telepathic.Geometry 44825@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>Well, it seems to me that we - as gamers - should be on the side of developers having as much creative freedom as possible. Obviously they can never be let completely off the leash, as the games have to make money, but it seems to me that EA have a pretty suffocating effect on devs and franchises. I don't think it's hyperbole to say that much... </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8792#post-44806 Thu, 07 Mar 2013 19:32:42 +0000 viralshag 44806@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>Haha, apart from a few there are so many weak willed weekend warriors here fighting the "good fight" against EA. Good job guys, I'm sure EA value your "hate" just as much as your money!</p> <p>I for one am glad EA is around otherwise my game library would be a lot slimmer and a lot worse off. No Mass Effect, BF, FIFA, Madden, Dead Space, SWTOR, Sims, SimCity and Dragon Age? No thanks!</p> <p>I also think some people focus too much on the politics of gaming rather than the actual games and let it ruin the experience for them. If a game is shit because it is actually shit, fair enough. But I think it's clear when people bash EA games just because it's EA. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8792#post-44805 Thu, 07 Mar 2013 19:31:11 +0000 fearmonkey 44805@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>i have had a dislike for EA ever since they killed origin systems, shafted the Dreamcast, and refused to publish titles Early in the XBOX's life. I don't boycott them, I just buy minimal games from them, or mostly buy games used or really cheap online. The only series I buy new is mass effect and Dragon's age, anything else was a used game or cheap priced digital release. After so many years have passed, I don't hate them as much, but I still dislike them for having so many great IP they do nothing with.</p> <p>Activision is worse in my opinion and the last game I bought new from them was Modern Warfare 1. I wish Activision would allow Raven to make a Heretic game, and singularity was a great title that didnt get the praise it deserved. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8792#post-44803 Thu, 07 Mar 2013 19:12:41 +0000 manamana 44803@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>That will definately happen. But on the other side of things, I stopped playing BF3 when all friends got those premium stuff. It's a shame but I still can play BF3 MP from time to time without extra DLC or premium. Oh wait, I got extra DLC (Map-packs) because I pre-ordered... </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8792#post-44800 Thu, 07 Mar 2013 18:55:20 +0000 The_Red 44800@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>I know there are games we all like. Heck, I'd kill for Mirror's Edge 2 but what if they sneak the dudebro co-op or always online + micro-transactions into Battlefield 4, Respawn game, Dragon Age 3, Burnout 6 and other anticipated titles? </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8792#post-44791 Thu, 07 Mar 2013 18:03:36 +0000 nollie4545 44791@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>I detest EA with a vengeance, ever since they did the license grabbing trick with their shit need for speed thing.</p> <p>They are a monster organisation who do nothing for videogaming but treat it like a giant ATM machine. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8792#post-44785 Thu, 07 Mar 2013 17:01:18 +0000 SplatteredHouse 44785@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>There is a pattern to be seen. I agree with what you say and that is what it comes down to (even if for me, it's more about whether I want to play that style of game at the time).<br /> But Gad, providing all of our interests fall into causing explosions, playing soldier (or space soldier), or alternatively, kicking a ball around a field week-in/out, then gee-howdy, do EA ever have an offer for us! They used to offer so much. More. With, arguably, less. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8792#post-44784 Thu, 07 Mar 2013 16:49:44 +0000 Gadzooks! 44784@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>If I like the way a game plays, I'll play it. That's my one and only concern. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8792#post-44783 Thu, 07 Mar 2013 16:39:02 +0000 SplatteredHouse 44783@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>EA today conjures up: grim decisions, strange orientation, and *slasher-movie sound effect* the relentless BATTLEFIELD they leave in their wake.<br /> zzzzzzz </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8792#post-44782 Thu, 07 Mar 2013 16:20:53 +0000 OlderGamer 44782@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>I hate EA. And I think they are helping stear/pionier the industry down a microtransaction ladden Trip A gaming future.</p> <p>But the thing is, as you guys said. I enjoy their games. Or at least some of them. The future isn't going to be free2play, it is going to be pay2win, and it is going to cost a lot.</p> <p>Look back in the days of gaming infencency, games were these little tid bits of fun seperated by the need to drop a quater in the machine to keep playing. Well, what is old is new again. That is the way the future is going to look. Today you buy your game, play, and should you want, you can drop more money on the game. Pretty harmless.</p> <p>However, like the games of yesteryear, the games of the future will likly see the gameplay balance thrown out the window due the pubs wanting you to put in another "quater". I remember playing games, doing great and then out of no where a rocket or a bad guy spawns right on top of me, instantly killing me. So in went another coin.</p> <p>I wasn't smart enough to see it for what it was then. I am smarter then that now. So are a lot of people. So I say thin ice EA, you are on thin ice. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8792#post-44779 Thu, 07 Mar 2013 15:03:08 +0000 DSB 44779@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>You fucking guys :D</p> <p>I have been "boycotting" them for a while. Honestly I don't miss EA games, but then they've been shit for quite a while, and they only seem to be getting shittier. The first serious challenge post-Battlefield 3 is going to be the Respawn game.</p> <p>Considering the money that EA has put into that, I don't think there's a chance in hell that they can do what 38 Studios did and put it on all clients. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8792#post-44777 Thu, 07 Mar 2013 14:46:52 +0000 Sadismek 44777@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>You are right! I will boycott EA!!<br /> ...oh, apart from the next Mirror's Edge... </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8792#post-44776 Thu, 07 Mar 2013 14:45:17 +0000 viralshag 44776@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>You are right! I will boycott EA!!</p> <p>...oh, apart from the next (5) FIFA games (at least)... </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8792#post-44770 Thu, 07 Mar 2013 12:55:06 +0000 SameeR_Fisher 44770@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>You are right! I will boycott EA!!</p> <p>...oh, apart from Dante's Inferno Sequel -- Dante's Purgatory... </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8792#post-44769 Thu, 07 Mar 2013 12:38:23 +0000 Dark 44769@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>You are right! I will boycott EA!!</p> <p>...oh, apart from the next bioware games... </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8792#post-44768 Thu, 07 Mar 2013 12:09:15 +0000 manamana 44768@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>You are right! I will boycott EA!!</p> <p>...oh, apart from the next Battlefied games... </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8792#post-44767 Thu, 07 Mar 2013 11:55:18 +0000 G1GAHURTZ 44767@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>You are right! I will boycott EA!!</p> <p>...oh, apart from Respawn games... </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8792#post-44766 Thu, 07 Mar 2013 11:36:38 +0000 The_Red 44766@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>Let's recap:<br /> - EA forces unified ammo with micro-transactions and dudebro action co-op upon Dead Space and thus ruins the game.</p> <p>- EA forces uber large and stupid amounts of micro-transactions upon Real Racing 3 and thus ruins the game</p> <p>- EA forces always online DRM for the singleplayer along with in-game ads and huge boards for micro-transactions upon SM and thus ruins the game.</p> <p>Seriously, how can one company do this? I know they HAVE to think about nothing but making money but doesn't hurting 3 franchises lead to the opposite? I know some will say that "You / GAF / forumers are not<br /> the majority and EA has them in mind" but seriously, just stop and look at this. At the very least, image of all 3 game has been seriously tarnished. Does EA honestly think that always online DRM for singleplayer and super micro-transactions are worth it money wise? (Regardless of quality concerns and the disgusting nature of these practices). </p>