http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8564 Just another bbPress community en-US Thu, 20 Jun 2013 11:42:33 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 q http://www.vg247.com/forum/search.php http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8564&page=2#post-44084 Fri, 22 Feb 2013 18:00:38 +0000 DSB 44084@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>Personally I don't think argueing about posters is all that interesting. Trying to analyze people on the internet generally isn't very rewarding.</p> <p>I try to stick to the subject, and if someone seems like they aren't interested in that, then I'm not interested in them.</p> <p>In this case, it's a fact that Sonys stock dipped at the same time as the reveal. It wasn't a huge dip, but it was a dip. </p> <p>sg1974s assumption that the game was rigged has little to do with reality. Acting on information before it's publicly available is called insider trading, and that tends to put people in jail.</p> <p>But of course, the stock market is fickle, and a rise of 2% after the end of trading is nothing to scoff at for a humongous company. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8564&page=2#post-44083 Fri, 22 Feb 2013 17:52:53 +0000 Dragon246 44083@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>@DSB,<br /> Yeah. It may be too aggressive of me. But you are free to post mine. Its not even nearly as lop-sided.</p> <p>@woe,<br /> Everyone is biased (or have choices), that is completely true. But isn't that history too much of it?<br /> On Sony side, stocks are dipping, ps4 is weaker (false), studios are closing and so on. On ms, people wrongly bashing it, good sales, price cuts and so on.<br /> Not seeing the trend here?<br /> And sorry if it was too aggressive of me. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8564&page=2#post-44082 Fri, 22 Feb 2013 17:44:31 +0000 woe 44082@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>@Dragon246 Everyones and including your history has bias in it Dick Tracey. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8564&page=2#post-44080 Fri, 22 Feb 2013 17:41:30 +0000 DSB 44080@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>Ever consider your own post history Dragon246? It's not hard to make assumptions based on that.</p> <p>Glass houses and what not.</p> <p>Far be it from me to say one way or another, but woes original post was really just a link to a Destructoid article, and it was pretty interesting given the hype of the night, even if the article itself was hyperbolic. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8564&page=2#post-44079 Fri, 22 Feb 2013 17:33:20 +0000 Dragon246 44079@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>@woe,<br /> Just look at this history-</p> <p> Sony stock nose dives after PS4 reveal<br /> Started: 1 day ago, latest reply: 8 minutes ago<br /> Sony takes a shot at Nintendo with new ad<br /> Started: 5 days ago, latest reply: 4 days ago<br /> Destiny 360 boxart and Info<br /> Started: 6 days ago, latest reply: 6 days ago<br /> Sony Slumps by Most in Four Years as Losses Stun Traders<br /> Started: 2 weeks ago, latest reply: 1 week ago<br /> Microsoft: 24M Kinect sensors and 76M consoles sold, 46M Xbox LIVE members<br /> Started: 1 week ago, latest reply: 1 week ago<br /> Sony Quarterly Loss 115 Million<br /> Started: 2 weeks ago, latest reply: 2 weeks ago<br /> Aliens: Colonial Marines "Bug Hunt" Confirmed With Date and Price<br /> Started: 2 weeks ago, No replies.<br /> Seller of Durango devkit says Durango info is old<br /> Started: 2 weeks ago, latest reply: 2 weeks ago<br /> Microsfts ships 5.9m Xbox 360s, $6.38bn profit for second quarter<br /> Started: 4 weeks ago, latest reply: 4 weeks ago<br /> Latest Microsoft analyst attack uses misleading numbers<br /> Started: 1 month ago, No replies.<br /> Next-Gen: Xbox 720 Will Be More Powerful Than PS4 - Report<br /> Started: 1 month ago, latest reply: 1 month ago<br /> 343 looking for an experienced Systems Designer for next big project<br /> Started: 1 month ago, latest reply: 1 month ago<br /> Halo 4 sold 3.2m in US during November<br /> Started: 2 months ago, latest reply: 2 months ago<br /> Machinima's Inside Gaming Awards 2012<br /> Started: 2 months ago, latest reply: 2 months ago<br /> Kotaku - Uh Oh, PlayStation Games Failed to Hit the Million Award in Japan<br /> Started: 2 months ago, No replies.<br /> Gears of War: Judgement - VGA 2012: World Premier Teaser<br /> Started: 2 months ago, No replies.<br /> Rumor: Layoffs at Sanzaru Games<br /> Started: 2 months ago, latest reply: 2 months ago<br /> New Judgement trailer December 7 at 9:00 PM ET/6:00 PM PT.<br /> Started: 3 months ago, latest reply: 2 months ago<br /> Microsoft Store BF deals are LIVE! Forza Horizon $15! $25 games!<br /> Started: 3 months ago, latest reply: 3 months ago<br /> Digital Foundry vs. Halo 4<br /> Started: 3 months ago, latest reply: 3 months ago<br /> Xbox 360 Gets a $50 Price Cut at GameStop Beginning Tomorrow<br /> Started: 4 months ago, latest reply: 4 months ago</p> <p>You know whose it is? Anti Sony and pro-MS it is (only 3 out of 20+ topics are something else), even when you use the wrong sources to prove an erroneous point, like the hardware specs. And its not only me saying that. Most posters are. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8564&page=2#post-44078 Fri, 22 Feb 2013 17:19:43 +0000 Da Man 44078@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>Very well put, OP.</p> <p>Sony123456789 is a deprived patient with no friends. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8564&page=2#post-44077 Fri, 22 Feb 2013 17:17:28 +0000 Samoan Spider 44077@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>It made it to 2 pages because people were debating the stock price situation. But your headline was sensationalist and if you truly understood what you were posting, I think you should've put a boot note in saying you understood that it was a disaster, just the usual stock hiccup. Although its still down around 14.03 at the moment. Its worth noting that there is a theory that its fallen because they have insisted on using the '4' in the name. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8564&page=2#post-44074 Fri, 22 Feb 2013 17:13:17 +0000 woe 44074@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>Dragon246 If people always ignore my news then why did this topic make it to two pages of replies? I also dont understand the Sony fans outburst either because at every chance they troll MS and Nintendo fans on a daily bases. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8564&page=2#post-44043 Fri, 22 Feb 2013 08:01:06 +0000 Dragon246 44043@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>Nintendogs still roaming around? Huh.<br /> No second screen gimmick. Now it will be interesting to see the dogs barking.<br /> So much for people copying their beloved ninty. Ninty magic I guess.</p> <p>@DrDamn,<br /> Thanks for pointing that out. MS good Sony bad guy he is. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8564&page=2#post-44042 Fri, 22 Feb 2013 07:51:14 +0000 polygem 44042@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>I will buy ps4 Day 1. Not on the Fence at all. The Most annoying Thing about sony is their huge narrow minded fanbrat legion. It's sad really... </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8564&page=2#post-44041 Fri, 22 Feb 2013 07:15:20 +0000 Dragon246 44041@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>^Look at your own history of trying to be the ms newsguy and anti Sony before commenting on others.<br /> Thats why people ignore your "news". They are bs and not newsworthy in most regard.<br /> Check the news before posting, otherwise you will only get laughed at like now.<br /> When you only see a "nose diving" erroneous article among the sea of ps4 news, everyone understands how biased your "news" is. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8564&page=2#post-44031 Fri, 22 Feb 2013 00:23:32 +0000 woe 44031@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>Some of you insecure Sony fans need to back the hell off because the headline as well as the news piece belongs to Destructoid. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8564#post-44018 Thu, 21 Feb 2013 20:42:05 +0000 nollie4545 44018@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>Do you think it might be because some idiot Sony executive implied they would not launch their console in Europe in 2013 along with the rest of the world? I mean can you think of any other company marketing high value consumer products who have ever voluntarily decided to reduce their potential market by a half?? You might understand if Sony were reluctant to offer PS4 in say, North Korea in 2013, but, Europe? You don't think offering a product to a region home to over 700 million people is a good idea? </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8564#post-44017 Thu, 21 Feb 2013 20:32:57 +0000 sg1974 44017@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>One thing you should learn about stock prices is that events such as last night are built in before the fact. It is not unusual to see prices fall after an announcement - you get cases in which a bank announces a big profit, and the shares drop later that day as investors take their profits. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8564#post-43993 Thu, 21 Feb 2013 16:23:16 +0000 Samoan Spider 43993@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>But to be specific L_Gravy, it fell a bit, climbed a fraction and then fell a bit more. Not a lot as the OP suggested but its worth double checking my link to their stock price above. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8564#post-43992 Thu, 21 Feb 2013 16:19:25 +0000 DSB 43992@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>After trading ended, yes. The post is from last night champ. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8564#post-43989 Thu, 21 Feb 2013 16:12:36 +0000 laughing-gravy 43989@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>Bulls***! their stock actually climbed. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8564#post-43986 Thu, 21 Feb 2013 15:32:52 +0000 DSB 43986@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>It's not too shabby considering the cosmic size of the Sony Corporation, but like Destructoid points out, last night it wasn't exactly what you wanted to see after a reveal.</p> <p>They absolutely jumped the gun on that headline though, and it really wasn't another WiiU. It was just the first thing that came to my mind. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8564#post-43981 Thu, 21 Feb 2013 15:02:00 +0000 Samoan Spider 43981@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>No way, christ a 1.5-2.5% drop can happen because an executive farts in public </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8564#post-43980 Thu, 21 Feb 2013 14:57:08 +0000 Beta 43980@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>Hardly a nose dive though is it :) </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8564#post-43978 Thu, 21 Feb 2013 14:52:46 +0000 Samoan Spider 43978@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>Whilst Woe is undeniably an idiot for jumping on this, I have to say what Edge referred to is actually an overnight high, not the actual stock value. A bit of a misfire on their part too. The price is currently 14.12 and thats down from 14.35 when I spoke up earlier. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8564#post-43977 Thu, 21 Feb 2013 14:47:51 +0000 Beta 43977@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>Well, look at that. The stock has actually gone up.</p> <p>Feel like an idiot yet Woe? </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8564#post-43976 Thu, 21 Feb 2013 14:04:53 +0000 Dark 43976@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p><a href="http://www.edge-online.com/news/sony-stock-jumps-following-ps4-announcement/" rel="nofollow">http://www.edge-online.com/news/sony-stock-jumps-following-ps4-announcement/</a> </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8564#post-43975 Thu, 21 Feb 2013 13:45:37 +0000 DSB 43975@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>It depends on how you look at it, I guess. Maybe Sony did count on a little slap on the wrist.</p> <p>But then I don't get why the presentation started so formulaic. I actually stopped watching because the great feeling I got from the intro was dashed by Andrew House walking on stage and starting to just mindlessly execubabble.</p> <p>That's not what I came for as someone looking for information and entertainment.</p> <p>So I mean, who were they really after?</p> <p>@SamoanSpider That's also very true. It could well be that analysts had their eyes elsewhere, and Sony slumped for something very different. It's just the obvious choice for us as gamers to assume it's PS4. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8564#post-43974 Thu, 21 Feb 2013 13:45:18 +0000 Samoan Spider 43974@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>And its up 12 points on premarket position so I would say that the money men are looking at the PS4 as a small part of Sony the company and are punishing them for something else. Please remember that Sony have a lot of fingers in a lot of pies.<br /> -&gt; <a href="http://www.google.co.uk/finance?q=NYSE:SNE" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.co.uk/finance?q=NYSE:SNE</a></p> <p>Edit: Ok, actually its down 22 points in premarket now but we'll find out in 10 minutes what its all about </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8564#post-43973 Thu, 21 Feb 2013 13:36:58 +0000 manamana 43973@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>I guess noone expects that the Gaikai connectivity will be free, so it will be profitable for Sony too. But it would've been to early to talk about monetization and final pricing considering it was just a reveal, or kind of a teaser, don't you think? </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8564#post-43972 Thu, 21 Feb 2013 13:30:05 +0000 DSB 43972@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>You're right Dave, but it's also not the response you want to a big reveal.</p> <p>It amounts to a financial golf clap.</p> <p>I think the fact that Sony wasn't specific about a lot of their services might have something to do with it. If they had gone "The playstation service suite will be fully monetized" I think there would've been some kind of jump.</p> <p>Xbox Live is uniquely profitable for Microsoft. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8564#post-43957 Thu, 21 Feb 2013 10:26:29 +0000 Mike W 43957@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>Woe grow up.....you're little hidden agendas towards this organization is becoming annoying like that Erthzaus dickhead. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8564#post-43956 Thu, 21 Feb 2013 09:57:28 +0000 Dave Cook 43956@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>1.5 is not a nose dive. Calm down Woe. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8564#post-43955 Thu, 21 Feb 2013 09:09:37 +0000 Samoan Spider 43955@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>Not to mention this might relate to the sale of M3 which was possibly poorly timed and nothing at all to do with the PS4 but still, when the market opens that could all change. </p>