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VG247 Forum » Topic: Sony Slumps by Most in Four Years as Losses Stun Traders http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8461 Just another bbPress community en-US Wed, 22 May 2013 14:42:13 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 <![CDATA[Search]]> q http://www.vg247.com/forum/search.php Da Man on "Sony Slumps by Most in Four Years as Losses Stun Traders" http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8461&page=2#post-43667 Thu, 14 Feb 2013 15:55:06 +0000 Da Man 43667@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ That they indeed have been host to some of the greatest games of all time doesn't really negate what I said.. You asked what is it so bad which makes me dislike them. Deacon on "Sony Slumps by Most in Four Years as Losses Stun Traders" http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8461&page=2#post-43664 Thu, 14 Feb 2013 12:32:45 +0000 Deacon 43664@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ You could choose to only see the negatives to ANY company. In my opinion their consoles have been host to some of the greatest games of all time. So for me, I find it baffling that any true gaming fan would harbour such a hatred for them, or wish for their demise. Just seems a bit sad is all. Da Man on "Sony Slumps by Most in Four Years as Losses Stun Traders" http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8461&page=2#post-43642 Wed, 13 Feb 2013 17:09:09 +0000 Da Man 43642@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ Last gen they produced an inferior console with high failure rate, which heavily held back everything else (from Xbox through Gamecube and PC). They also made three generations of unnecessary proprietary processors. Besides, they influenced software being produced by many companies (like Square and Konami), pretty much leading to many interactive movies being made instead of videogames. I merely comment on a shitty portfolio of a shitty company, no offense. As for those two agonizing Sony devotees, I really don't know how to address a person who spends literally every single day between a Playstation and an internet forum yet calls people who tend to criticize his toy idols a 'nerd' and a 'troll'. Uncharted is a dumbed down platformer, a mediocre shooter and a heavily scripted corridor game. No trolling needed here. 'lol'.. Deacon on "Sony Slumps by Most in Four Years as Losses Stun Traders" http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8461&page=2#post-43638 Wed, 13 Feb 2013 09:31:02 +0000 Deacon 43638@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ Out of morbid curiosity, I'd love to hear about all the 'lot of wrong' they did last, this, and all throughout the 90's, as you say. Not so I can defend them (as you'd like). I'm just curious. We need to get to the bottom of why you feel such overwhelming hatred for this corporation. Perhaps it's time to move on. Gekidami on "Sony Slumps by Most in Four Years as Losses Stun Traders" http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8461&page=2#post-43628 Tue, 12 Feb 2013 20:10:06 +0000 Gekidami 43628@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ ^ lol Why are you actually acknowledging this basement dweller even exists? Just ignore him whilst he vents his nerd rage on the internet between serving the till at the Apple Store and cutting himself. Trolls, dont feed them. Christopher Jack on "Sony Slumps by Most in Four Years as Losses Stun Traders" http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8461&page=2#post-43624 Tue, 12 Feb 2013 19:50:12 +0000 Christopher Jack 43624@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ Why are you insulted by the fact that people actually like Sony, PlayStation, Google, Android & Samsung? Enjoy the benefits of your own preferences & let bygones be bygones because seriously, your immature mocking has plagued this site for too long. No more excuses, just grow up. Da Man on "Sony Slumps by Most in Four Years as Losses Stun Traders" http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8461&page=2#post-43612 Tue, 12 Feb 2013 16:46:37 +0000 Da Man 43612@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ Do you even know what's an open OS? Anyone can develop for it, it uses a non proprietary graphics API (in contrast to ie Windows), and the tools are even free. 'Latest samsung' runs Android, which is inferior and requires faster hardware. Although anyway here we go: <a href="http://www.electronista.com/articles/12/09/17/dual.core.a6.beats.quad.core.galaxy.s.iii.nexus.7.tablet.in.tests/" rel="nofollow">http://www.electronista.com/articles/12/09/17/dual.core.a6.beats.quad.core.galaxy.s.iii.nexus.7.tablet.in.tests/</a> ^This is for you It's not my favorite. I merely comment on it's quality and performance, as well as the flawless design. Please do correct my grammEr. It's the best you could do for me. Deacon on "Sony Slumps by Most in Four Years as Losses Stun Traders" http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8461#post-43611 Tue, 12 Feb 2013 16:38:43 +0000 Deacon 43611@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ Mac OS is 'open'? Oh ok, that explains why the Mac get's all the top game releases like PC then. Why not compare the tech specs of the latest Samsung smartphone to your beloved iPhone? Yup. Overpriced. How would your fancy Apple 'iFeatures' be of any use on a GAMES CONSOLE? So you can see your buddies face while you're playing a fucking game? Outstanding. "Apple computers cost about as much as their analogs" - I don't even know what this means. Is this English? Where did I say Sony OS is open? It's venomous haters like you that have all but stopped me commenting here. Any chance to have a dig and wind a few people up and you just jump straight in. Yet can't take it when someone insults your beloved Apple. I doubt you'll ever grow out of it because you seem pretty impressed by your actions! Way to go man. And who the fuck calls themselves Da Man anyway??? That's a pretty huge 'cock alert' right there. Da Man on "Sony Slumps by Most in Four Years as Losses Stun Traders" http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8461#post-43610 Tue, 12 Feb 2013 16:15:56 +0000 Da Man 43610@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ Thank you yet again for demonstrating both your level of education in terms of hardware and software, as well as the general taste. Mac OS is more open than anything made by Sony, and so is iOS. Apple computers cost about as much as their analogs, you probably never owned anything better than an Acer notebook or a massive coffin PC. For something 'underequipped' Apple hardware surely have the most features out of comparable products. Lastly, I encourage you to educate yourself on each IOS sdk and feature 'iterataion'. Not that you would be able to decipher more than a few words out of it. As for Sony, they did a lot of wrong last, this and tbh in the 90s gen. They make unnecessary, overpriced hardware with inferior tools and poor performance, which they milk for decades thanks to dense shizophrenics such as you. Run along and engage in some screen swirling bishounen battles, you hardcore enthusiast. Not that you can play anything half competitive. Deacon on "Sony Slumps by Most in Four Years as Losses Stun Traders" http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8461#post-43590 Tue, 12 Feb 2013 10:07:13 +0000 Deacon 43590@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ Apple would provide overpriced, under equipped, iterative hardware, extremely closed infrastructure and yeah, ok, great support. Whoop-de-fucking-doo. That would REALLY change the industry for the better. Because Apple have such a legacy when it comes to gaming IP and nurturing development. Yeah let's throw Sony out and have every user interface with ads rammed down your throat. Or paying to play online across the board despite already paying your ISP fees. Sony have done a lot wrong this gen but acting like the industry would be a better place without them just shows your complete ignorance. And FYI 'Da Man', I've played more systems than your weekly disability allowance would ever afford you. I don't need a big retard-friendly interface to appreciate a platform. Keep hating though. You'll bring the evil Sony down one day. fengato on "Sony Slumps by Most in Four Years as Losses Stun Traders" http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8461#post-43578 Mon, 11 Feb 2013 22:55:53 +0000 fengato 43578@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ Sony really dropped the ball this gen - I went from being a PS gamer (didn't own the original xbox) to getting virtually all 3rd party titles on 360. It was sad watching my shiny (expensive) Foreman grill gather dust, but in nearly all cases the 3rd party stuff looked and played better on the MS machine. If Sony genuinely have the upper hand this time around (technologically), I'd happily return to my roots (esp with Destiny being multi-plat.) Sony is needed to keep M$ honest - I dread the day that they're no-longer competing in the market. Roll on the 20th... fearmonkey on "Sony Slumps by Most in Four Years as Losses Stun Traders" http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8461#post-43576 Mon, 11 Feb 2013 21:20:14 +0000 fearmonkey 43576@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ Since OG mentioned the Dreamcast, I have to post and say what an awesome machine that was. It's still the greatest and most memorable console launch for me yet. Local stores had Dreamcast Launch parties at Midnight, contests, and giveaways, it was amazing. Competition is a great thing, and I want Sony to come back strong and make MS squirm a bit. As Gheritt said above, Steam has pretty much become my gaming choice now thanks to prices and availability. I hope Valve makes MS squirm as well, MS has been cocky for awhile now, and they need to be reminded that no one is on top for long. Gheritt White on "Sony Slumps by Most in Four Years as Losses Stun Traders" http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8461#post-43571 Mon, 11 Feb 2013 18:13:01 +0000 Gheritt White 43571@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ I would like to see a future looking like this: 1. Google or Apple - owning the casual and family space 2. Microsoft or Sony - owning the mid-core or price-sensitive gaming space 3. Valve/Steam - owning the hardcore or high-end space. I can easily see Valve/Steam squeezing MS and/or Sony out of the market before too long, though. Christopher Jack on "Sony Slumps by Most in Four Years as Losses Stun Traders" http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8461#post-43570 Mon, 11 Feb 2013 18:09:38 +0000 Christopher Jack 43570@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ Apple already has the Apple TV & Mac Mini, I don't think they're going to make a gaming device ever again. Nor do I think they really give a shit about gaming altogether. Da Man on "Sony Slumps by Most in Four Years as Losses Stun Traders" http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8461#post-43569 Mon, 11 Feb 2013 17:48:59 +0000 Da Man 43569@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ Apple would provide quality, fast, well designed hardware, adequate SDK and great support. So yes indeed. Not that I expect someone like you, DH, to grasp the concept of good hardware (or software for that matter). Gheritt White on "Sony Slumps by Most in Four Years as Losses Stun Traders" http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8461#post-43566 Mon, 11 Feb 2013 16:48:33 +0000 Gheritt White 43566@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ "A games industry without either Sony or Microsoft is the best case possible." Fixed that for you. We (as in the industry, not punters) only need one console platform in a Steambox-shaped future, kthnxbai. DSB on "Sony Slumps by Most in Four Years as Losses Stun Traders" http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8461#post-43565 Mon, 11 Feb 2013 16:19:32 +0000 DSB 43565@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ Perspective: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/d67sdox" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/d67sdox</a> Gaming is a hell of a drug. Deacon on "Sony Slumps by Most in Four Years as Losses Stun Traders" http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8461#post-43555 Mon, 11 Feb 2013 11:58:10 +0000 Deacon 43555@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ "A games industry without Sony is the best case possible" Right. Sure. You'd rather have Apple in their place?? lol. Fuck me... So let's keep all future consoles exactly the same on the inside. Because that'll really drive innovation. manamana on "Sony Slumps by Most in Four Years as Losses Stun Traders" http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8461#post-43552 Mon, 11 Feb 2013 11:36:48 +0000 manamana 43552@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ Games industry without sony is rubbish and people saying otherwise are blinded by their fanboyish rose-colored glasses. Dragon246 on "Sony Slumps by Most in Four Years as Losses Stun Traders" http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8461#post-43550 Mon, 11 Feb 2013 09:44:44 +0000 Dragon246 43550@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ WOW! The stink is as bad as expected. Not that I expected ninty and xbox fans to say otherwise. But people, CHILLAX! Sony is not going anywhere, and PS4 will be well supported. Case in point, this post conveniently forgets to mention that Sony stocks have gained more than 35% in the past few months, from the 30 year low of 960 something yen. And if stock prices really are that important, then apple lost 100billion $ of worth in the past few months for nothing. But obviously, if pissing on Sony makes your day, then please continue on :) Da Man on "Sony Slumps by Most in Four Years as Losses Stun Traders" http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8461#post-43538 Sun, 10 Feb 2013 16:03:06 +0000 Da Man 43538@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <ul>- A games industry without Sony is the best case possible</ul> Word. OlderGamer on "Sony Slumps by Most in Four Years as Losses Stun Traders" http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8461#post-43531 Sun, 10 Feb 2013 00:38:30 +0000 OlderGamer 43531@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ Games are games in my book Mike W. Was just pointing out how the shoe sometimes pinches when it is on the other foot. Christopher Jack on "Sony Slumps by Most in Four Years as Losses Stun Traders" http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8461#post-43524 Sat, 09 Feb 2013 18:35:57 +0000 Christopher Jack 43524@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ I wasn't being specific to any individual industry otherwise it wouldn't make it a conglomerate. For example MS & Apple are not really conglomerates. DSB on "Sony Slumps by Most in Four Years as Losses Stun Traders" http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8461#post-43523 Sat, 09 Feb 2013 17:29:55 +0000 DSB 43523@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ That's categorically false ChrisJack. There's a huge difference between how the technology sector is doing in general, and how the games industry is doing: <a href="http://investing.money.msn.com/investments/stock-charts/?symbol=%24compx" rel="nofollow">http://investing.money.msn.com/investments/stock-charts/?symbol=%24compx</a> As you can see, most tech companies are booming. Most games companies are either failing to keep up, or slumping. Mike W on "Sony Slumps by Most in Four Years as Losses Stun Traders" http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8461#post-43522 Sat, 09 Feb 2013 17:24:26 +0000 Mike W 43522@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ @CJ True, but it's gets everybody gears grinding when it's focus just on Sony and plus we get to see how stupid some people really are like Erthazus. ;) Woe knew exactly what he/she was doing when he/she created this thread. What's the point you ask? Who knows....call it hidden agendas or just pure hate for Sony. What it all boils down to is ignorance and stupidity. Why anybody wants to see any one these manufacturers back out of the market is beyond me. Christopher Jack on "Sony Slumps by Most in Four Years as Losses Stun Traders" http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8461#post-43520 Sat, 09 Feb 2013 17:04:20 +0000 Christopher Jack 43520@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ Not many conglomerates seem to be doing too well, Samsung being the only major exception that comes to mind. @Gadzooks, do you have OCD? It's just that every time I see you post, it involves bitching about Sony's franchises being entirely milked, corridor QTE rip offs. I don't care about you criticizing Sony but at least be original, you're no better than Erthazus claiming that consoles have ruined his life with every post. DSB on "Sony Slumps by Most in Four Years as Losses Stun Traders" http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8461#post-43519 Sat, 09 Feb 2013 16:51:51 +0000 DSB 43519@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ It's probably wise to keep it in perspective. 10% is more of a slap on the nose than anything. A company that seriously screws up would lose 25% or something truly brutal like that. Sony is actually in the middle of a recovery from months of their stock tumbling, so losing 10% after a month where you've gained 50% isn't exactly critical to anything they're doing. In general though, the industry is doing poorly. It's not like it's just Sony suffering. We'll see what the next gen brings, but I feel like it might be a very quick rush followed by a very serious hangover. Ultimately it depends on how good the industry is going to be at keeping momentum going. I think a lot of those CEOs have no idea what they're actually producing anymore. Mike W on "Sony Slumps by Most in Four Years as Losses Stun Traders" http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8461#post-43518 Sat, 09 Feb 2013 16:32:41 +0000 Mike W 43518@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ @OG I was a proud Dreamcast owner and it broke my heart with Sega backed out of the market. That was a tough time, I still have the damn thing. :) But wait a minute, are you telling us you were a Sega loyalist and you're waiting for Sony to fail or something because you believe Sony was the reason Sega left the console market? You're not one those people are you? OlderGamer on "Sony Slumps by Most in Four Years as Losses Stun Traders" http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8461#post-43517 Sat, 09 Feb 2013 16:25:23 +0000 OlderGamer 43517@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ Now you Sony loyalist know what it must have been like to be a Dreamcast owner. Better hardware, better games...didn't matter. Gadzooks! on "Sony Slumps by Most in Four Years as Losses Stun Traders" http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=8461#post-43507 Sat, 09 Feb 2013 13:34:12 +0000 Gadzooks! 43507@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ God of War, Gran Turismo, Uncharted and Killzone have been milked to death already, and Sonys first party output in the last year has been extremely lame. Apart from that franchise milking, Sony have given us mediocre ripoffs of other games and piss-weak QTE/cutscene/narrow corridor games. Not to mention crippling the industry with awful hardware design. Now we see rumours of a bundled Kinect with PS4. A games industry without Sony is the best case possible. Steambox or an Apple box would be a far better 3rd player.