http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=5685 Just another bbPress community en-US Sat, 25 May 2013 19:16:32 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 q http://www.vg247.com/forum/search.php http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=5685&page=2#post-33061 Thu, 10 May 2012 11:37:43 +0000 DrDamn 33061@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>@Erthazus<br /> Well quite. The same can apply to the Vita too. So why is one "90% Original games" but the other just ports? </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=5685&page=2#post-33049 Wed, 09 May 2012 21:54:01 +0000 polygem 33049@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>i want to play all the sly cooper jak daxter ratchet clank hd bundles on my vita via remote play. i hope sony will finally push this after E3...it would be so awesome. these kind of games are perfect for a handheld. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=5685&page=2#post-33035 Wed, 09 May 2012 16:41:10 +0000 Erthazus 33035@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>@DrDamn, what you described as an update is basically New Game developed for the system. That is not the update.</p> <p>It's a new game and it was developed for the system and that is important and that is. Does not matter what the series are from.</p> <p>BTW, Guys have you seen SOUL SACRIFICE? It looks amazing for the Vita </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=5685&page=2#post-33033 Wed, 09 May 2012 15:31:25 +0000 DrDamn 33033@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>@OG<br /> Oh no I agree with you. Just pointing out the comment from Erthazus was complete BS. The 3DS has become successful by dropping in price and releasing a load of updates to some of it's strongest franchises plus some ports.</p> <p>An interesting point though, of the top 5 games on that 3DS list - the ones which according to vgchartz sold a million+. </p> <p>Super Mario 3D Land - released 9 months after launch<br /> Mario Kart 7 - released 10 months after launch<br /> The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D - released 4 months after launch<br /> Nintendogs + cats - Launch title<br /> Monster Hunter 3G - released 10 months after launch </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=5685&page=2#post-33031 Wed, 09 May 2012 15:17:20 +0000 OlderGamer 33031@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>Doc, you might not agree, but look at the draw of those top couple of titles.</p> <p>Mario, Mario Kart, and Zelda. Those are huge. Even if they are just updates as you call em. They are big name franchises. Sony doesn't even have franchises in the same league.</p> <p>VS:</p> <p>Uncharted, Hot Shots Golf, and Fifa.</p> <p>Nintendo is in another time zone, planet, demension, and more.</p> <p>8 of the top 10 selling games on 3DS are Nintendos own games.</p> <p>When I say that Nintendo is the only real games company left, that is one of the things I am talking about. They put out extremly popular, well built, excelent playing, solid(and great selling) games.</p> <p>I think what gamers and posters are saying is less that Vita doesn't have games, but more that Vita doesn't have great games that they want to play.</p> <p>I think it is the reason why time and time again top tech hardware doesn't win. You don't play hardware, you play games. And the only reason the masses buy the hardware is to play games on it.</p> <p>I think Vita will be fine. It takes time. 3DS was slow at first too. But it does need a price cut. If I was MS/Sony I wouldn't want to release my next gen systems too far behind Nintendos. By the time they come out Nintendo will have libary built up, and maybe even a lower price point. Just like the 3DS has over the Vita. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=5685&page=2#post-33019 Wed, 09 May 2012 12:03:54 +0000 DrDamn 33019@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>@Erthazus<br /> "@lexph3re, go see the charts of 3DS games that sell for example. 90% of them are original games."</p> <p>Using the ever dodgey vgcharts for a list but in this context valid enough.</p> <p>Top 10 3DS titles ...<br /> Super Mario 3D Land - Update of existing game series<br /> Mario Kart 7 - Update of existing game series<br /> The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D - Port<br /> Nintendogs + cats - Update of existing game series<br /> Monster Hunter 3G - Port<br /> Pokémon Rumble Blast - Update of existing game series<br /> Super Street Fighter IV: 3D Edition - Port<br /> PilotWings Resort - Update of existing game series<br /> Kid Icarus: Uprising - Original title<br /> Star Fox 64 3D- Port</p> <p>5 Updates, 4 Ports, 1 Original title</p> <p>Top 10 Vita titles ...</p> <p> Uncharted: Golden Abyss - Update of existing game series<br /> Hot Shots Golf - Update of existing game series<br /> FIFA Soccer - Port<br /> Little Deviants - Original title<br /> Rayman Origins - Port<br /> Dynasty Warriors Next - Update of existing game series<br /> Wipeout 2048 - Update of existing game series<br /> Unit 13 - Original title<br /> Lord of Apocalypse - Original title<br /> Tales of Innocence R - Port</p> <p>4 Updates, 3 Ports, 3 Original titles </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=5685&page=2#post-32995 Tue, 08 May 2012 18:49:33 +0000 HeavyD-Love 32995@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>Here are the games I think Sony would be smart to throw money at and make happen ASAP on their VITA system:</p> <p>-Resident Evil (exclusive Vita title OR 3DS port, I’d take either)<br /> -GTA: San Andreas Stories (following suit of the PSP tradition - this shit alone would sell systems)<br /> -God of War (exclusive Vita title)<br /> -Skate or Tony Hawk (exclusive Vita title)<br /> -Metal Gear (drop the solid…..a new vita exclusive)</p> <p>-Little Big Planet (Vita exclusive already scheuduled)<br /> -Call of Duty (vita exclusive already scheduled i believe) </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=5685&page=2#post-32865 Fri, 04 May 2012 09:15:52 +0000 polygem 32865@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>@ Pytox: dungeon hunter....<br /> i was very sceptical about the vita but i am really enjoying it. can´t say there arent enough games.<br /> i just downloaded mutant blobs yesterday and it is awesome and damn cheap. it really is great. gameplayvideos don´t show how cool this game really is.<br /> have lots of games yet to finish on the vita. super stardust is a better version of a great game, rayman origins, even unit 13 is quite fun, UC golden abyss was nice but at the same time a bit disappointing imho - well it looks great on the vita and gives you an idea of how much better games will look in the furutre so it´s still worth a purchase, wipeout is great, motorstorm rc is fun. some psp games are timeless classics too and are really cheap: FF dissidia, killzone liberation, the syphon filter games, killzone liberation, daxter, MEDIEVIL!!! and many many more. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=5685&page=2#post-32863 Fri, 04 May 2012 08:28:07 +0000 Pytox 32863@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>There are not many interesting games for VITA to make me buy one,<br /> maybe only FIFA Football &amp; that Diablo clone game on VITA ( what was the name? ) :D </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=5685&page=2#post-32679 Sat, 28 Apr 2012 18:06:28 +0000 lexph3re 32679@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>I'm going to come back to this after My programming class and when I get off work today. Because there's a perspective I want to point out. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=5685&page=2#post-32669 Sat, 28 Apr 2012 10:43:08 +0000 Erthazus 32669@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>@lexph3re, go see the charts of 3DS games that sell for example. 90% of them are original games.</p> <p>The only ports that helped them to sell the device was Ocarina of Time</p> <p>and no, DS had original games. There can't be any ports because hardware is too limited to port from any console.<br /> Dragon Quests, Pokemon's, Dungeon Crawler games, NSMB. The World Ends With You and etc., Kingdom Hearts.<br /> There are a lot of original games. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=5685&page=2#post-32668 Sat, 28 Apr 2012 10:23:00 +0000 Hunam 32668@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>I honestly can't see any reason to buy a vita at the moment. But when Persona 4 Golden comes out west I'll be the first in line throwing my money at the shops till my thirst is sated. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=5685&page=2#post-32664 Sat, 28 Apr 2012 01:08:49 +0000 lexph3re 32664@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>I don't know if you are playing the same nintendo handhelds as I have. But, almost all of DS's heavy hitters were ports. Even now in 3ds, there really isn't anything that is wowing about the 3DS catalog right now. I have both Vita and 3DS and I feel 3DS is the worst investment I have made to date. </p> <p>If it were'nt for my wife enjoying it I wouldn't even remember I owned one. And all she plays is sprung and well that's it. I bought her mario kart 7, sims 3, farm frenzy and cooking mama 3. Very diverse selection but she only touches 1 game.</p> <p>For me I bought chrono trigger and still have no ambition to touch it. All I've done is play/use my Vita. Netflix/Skype/gaming and more. I honestly don't see anything wrong with the uses of the vita right now. in games and in versatility. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=5685&page=2#post-32663 Sat, 28 Apr 2012 00:10:59 +0000 polygem 32663@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>right fez. downloaded the demo. will get that soon as well. also played fat princess demo lateley was also fun. But journey is different imo. </p> <p>have fun with the acer! I am into this In and out buy n sell "business" too but i promised myself to cut it down. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=5685&page=2#post-32661 Sat, 28 Apr 2012 00:07:30 +0000 Psychotext 32661@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>Buying at launch is rarely a sensible move. Far better to buy it a couple of years in for far less... with a shitload more (insanely cheap) games.</p> <p>One advantage of being an old bastard with fuck all time (and a massive backlog) I guess. :) </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=5685&page=2#post-32659 Fri, 27 Apr 2012 23:56:47 +0000 monkeygourmet 32659@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>Journey was fantastic, but then it's beautifully countered with Trials Evolution and Fez.</p> <p>Fez in particular has my girlfriends interest right now. I love journey and all these games to be honest. DL indyish games are getting so much more fun imo.</p> <p>Next game I have paid for is Dragons Dogma on 360. I've heard a few scare stories from Kotaku but the demo really mashed me Potatos! :)</p> <p>After that, who knows?</p> <p>My vita money has already been spent on an a Acer Revo XBMC PC, arriving 2moro, can't wait to set that up! ;) </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=5685&page=2#post-32657 Fri, 27 Apr 2012 23:24:40 +0000 polygem 32657@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>@monkeygourmet. yes journey would´ve been nice on the vita too, definiteley.<br /> i played some halo today. i love halo....but got bored by it. haven´t played for quite some time and got pwnd pretty bad. then thought about buying journey which i wanted since it came out...played through it in one sitting and it was really stunning. i was sceptical. it was much better than i thought it would be. some said it´s too expensive for the length but i don´t regret the purchase at all- was a great journey and well worth the ticket. will play through it again soon and i can really see my girlfriend playing through this too. they created a great atmosphere. very emotional game, just because of the art- and sounddesign. thatgamecompany really did a great job and deserve all the praise. i hope for more stuff like this. videogames as a medium need more diversity.<br /> reason why i mentioned halo: as soon as i finihed journey i said to myself that you gotta thank ms for bringing halo to the xbox but sony really delivers the extraordinary stuff in gaming. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=5685&page=2#post-32655 Fri, 27 Apr 2012 22:25:11 +0000 Erthazus 32655@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>@lexph3re, everything what you described is the reason why Sony was behind Nintendo in handheld space.</p> <p>Honestly, system need it's own games. It does not matter unique they are or not, but there must be good games. Games sell hardware, not ports. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=5685#post-32654 Fri, 27 Apr 2012 22:06:10 +0000 monkeygourmet 32654@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>@poly</p> <p>Funny you should say that, such an amazing game! I have it but watched my friend complete it the other day. Utterly compelling viewing! Why it wasn't cross platform with vita I don't know?! </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=5685#post-32653 Fri, 27 Apr 2012 22:03:29 +0000 polygem 32653@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>off topic....finally bought journey today and just finished it. short. amazing! amazing! </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=5685#post-32651 Fri, 27 Apr 2012 21:20:25 +0000 daytripper 32651@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>Everyone is talking about the need for new consoles at E3, I think this E3 is highly important for Vita, a steady flow of strong games not ports are required otherwise I feel the odd droplet of an exclusive won't cut it </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=5685#post-32650 Fri, 27 Apr 2012 19:49:52 +0000 monkeygourmet 32650@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>@poly</p> <p>I'm sure they will, but the thing is, can they at least release a few this year?! Bar Mortal Kombat, I have heard of nothing coming up for vita even remotely good. </p> <p>What they need IMHO:</p> <p>Final Fantasy<br /> Monster Hunter<br /> God of War<br /> Killzone<br /> Motorstorm<br /> Call of Duty<br /> Dark Souls game from FROM software<br /> PS 2 classics, god hand, DMC, Ico etc...<br /> Journey<br /> Unique games, only on VIta etc...<br /> Cheap game store, 5 to 10 quid for plants vs. zombies, piss off! 69p in iPhone sale kind of stuff<br /> Cross platform play, more of this<br /> Remote play, should already be out</p> <p>What I think they will show:</p> <p>Remote play, wow, new feature!<br /> Call of Duty<br /> Final Fantasy<br /> More social network stuff, I don't want or need!<br /> Ps1 support, not ps2 yet (remember, drip feeding features...)<br /> Killzone<br /> Bioshock video</p> <p>Well see what they do... Maybe a price cut. Anyway, either way I hope it gets cracked wide open soon for some awesome homebrew... </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=5685#post-32649 Fri, 27 Apr 2012 19:38:14 +0000 polygem 32649@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>again. i am sure there will be extremeley ambitious games announced for the vita at E3. sony has to do this. i really don´t think they are that stupid to not know that by themselves. they are competing against the 3ds and the ipad. no way they entered this JUST for prestige...they wanna deliver and sell.</p> <p>i am a resistance fan, so i can´t wait for burning skies....it´s not made by insomniac so i am sceptical but i bet it will be decent. then there is gravity rush and mortal kombat. this is enough vita for me for this summer...the fall will bring much more new games for sure. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=5685#post-32648 Fri, 27 Apr 2012 19:35:19 +0000 lexph3re 32648@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>Honestly, Every problem you guys talk on isn't a problem for others. Ports being a bad thing? not if you never played them. Did I play Rayman Origins on ps3/360/3ds? No, so is it a port of something I already have? No it is not. Umvc3 is not a port for me either, Why? Because I never bought it before. Sure if you own or played these games before then you can scream bloody ports all day. </p> <p>However, what good does it do saying "I COULD play this on a console." and you haven't. That is a statement that only show's you have options towards how you can access your games. I want disgaea 3 but did I buy it on ps3? No, and I'm sure their sales can suggest that a larger audience also haven't bought nor played the games. </p> <p>A lot of everyone's statement's are to personal towards the device. An don't take into account that there are more people who haven't touched these games and device then yourself. Now the system also boast a very healthy array of original titles that I hear a lot of people claim shart then admit they haven't played them. Haven't we as experienced gamers learned reviews aren't good enough a judge to appreciate a title?</p> <p>Honestly, it's just not wise to take the approach of selling a device merely because your to lazy to try other things out. I've tried a lot of games out on vita that surprised me on how much fun they were. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=5685#post-32647 Fri, 27 Apr 2012 19:22:29 +0000 ManuOtaku 32647@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>Well i have to say, keep in mind that pirating is a must in the most parts of the third world countries, becuase the price for the games are really expensive, due to the currency conversion and the state of the economy of said countries, therefore i do understand the needs for pirating games in some instances, but of course this should be the exception and not the rule, therefore sometimes think about this too. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=5685#post-32645 Fri, 27 Apr 2012 19:18:14 +0000 manamana 32645@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>@Charlie you are free to do whatever you like, just think twice about it. I had cracked games back in the C64 days. That was hugely common. But I also didnt enjoy the games not as much as the ones Ai bought from my hard earned money. It was more like "consuming" or "collecting" games. Plus when I finally bought games, I had to pick my choice wisely. And thats what I kept for now. I love the thrill of anticipation, when a game which I like is announced and I can finally buy it. I spend a lot in games and yes also used ones, which btw. is no better for game developers, as we all know by now. But pirating is not my lifestyle nor my attitude for gaming. In the end of the day, I want to have a good feeling about gaming, thats why I do it. Its a distraction from my worklife. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=5685#post-32644 Fri, 27 Apr 2012 19:06:06 +0000 manamana 32644@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>@Gwyn But on the PSP you can have most NeoGeo and Sega 16bit titles to enjoy, just saying .... </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=5685#post-32643 Fri, 27 Apr 2012 18:54:56 +0000 monkeygourmet 32643@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>Sony have become damn greedy too. People slag MS off for their xboxlive pricing structure, but who thought it was a good idea to charge me AGAIN to play psp games on the VIta that I already own?! </p> <p>Sony really don't understand why people pirate and want to jailbreak their devices. This old school mentality of trying to stay ahead of the pirates is going to drive a huge wedge between consumers and themselves.</p> <p>I chipped my old psp to play old emulated games (nes and snes games i had bought aggeeeees back) I also bought psp games at retail.</p> <p>Sony seems obsessed with stopping pirates getting into the vita, this is oly a bad move. Did the R4 cart stop the DS being one of the most successful handhelds in the world? I don't think so....</p> <p>Piracy is still only a tiny chunk off what potential a hardware manufacturer can make off decently priced hardware or software. If you believe otherwise you are foolish and deserve all the shite you get spoon fed,</p> <p>I.e. half finished games, dlc on the disk, hardware with drip fed features etc...</p> <p>You could say, 'that's how business models work these days', I say, 'fuck you'... Greed greed and more fucking greed, that's all it is... </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=5685#post-32642 Fri, 27 Apr 2012 18:46:59 +0000 Charlie Sheen 32642@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>@manamana you must of pirated one thing in your life and if you say you havnt then your lieing and if you have why are games different? </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=5685#post-32641 Fri, 27 Apr 2012 18:43:49 +0000 ManuOtaku 32641@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>Gwynnbleddium "BTW, I don't know if I wanna have a PS3 like experience on the go", i think this is the more important aspect sony needs to attack ASAP, besides the price point on both the vita and the memory cards, in my eyes the 3DS represents the DNA of portable games, handheld games, i mean the games really represent the handheld mentallity, short games, fun games and games that exploit the 3DS features, i think sony needs to do this with the vita as well, games that are only found on vita, and also that use the great tech this handheld has, if they can do that, they will bounce back, but if they keep with the consoles like experience mentality more than the hanheld one, i think they will have a hard time, dont get me wrong i know there are many gamers that want that, even if i dont want it that badly, i think thats good, but they need to go also the route of the handheld mentallity, they should support both strongly in order to succeed. </p>