http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=4701 Just another bbPress community en-US Wed, 22 May 2013 18:44:38 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 q http://www.vg247.com/forum/search.php http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=4701#post-23852 Mon, 30 May 2011 16:06:27 +0000 reask 23852@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>No, but I bet its warm where you are.;) </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=4701#post-23850 Mon, 30 May 2011 15:45:34 +0000 Gekidami 23850@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>So wait, you're mad that from time to time you cant sign into Sony sites?</p> <p>Is it cold up there, on top of that mountain-sized molehill you've made? </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=4701#post-23847 Mon, 30 May 2011 14:15:14 +0000 OlderGamer 23847@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>Silly Stretch215, your suposed to feel sorry for Sony. And show them much love. Didn't you get the email Sony sent that pointed all of that out?</p> <p>Honestly, folks, people are going to be upset. And everytime someone vents a bit isn't a signel for the Sony defense force to call to arms. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=4701#post-23811 Sun, 29 May 2011 04:32:10 +0000 Dralen 23811@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>If this had anything to do with lack of preparedness don't you think this would of happened sometime in between the five years that the PS3 has been around? I see you saying that it's never happened to your precious Xbox Live before, but it hadn't happened to the PSN until now either. </p> <p>These hackers were obviously organised and very skilled, and the fact that they still haven't been caught yet just shows how good these guys really were. These hackers probably did alot more damage to Sony's systems than they are letting on, which is why it is taking so long. </p> <p>Beside's, I think Sony have been very generous in the compensation that they are giving to PSN customers e.g. the welcome back pack. I mean a free game and a month of PSN+...that's pretty awesome. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=4701#post-23808 Sun, 29 May 2011 03:20:04 +0000 Christopher Jack 23808@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>It happened to me a few years back on XBL near Christmas then continued happening to me for some time, I didn't get anything for compensation &amp; my Gold sub ran out the week it finally returned to normal.<br /> Sony is responsible in many ways, I'm not getting into that discussion considering the lack of proof both ways &amp; the little knowledge I have regarding security &amp; hacking. I just want the store back up. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=4701#post-23807 Sun, 29 May 2011 03:08:29 +0000 stretch215 23807@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>Next will come the "it's not Sony's fault" spiel (which is not totally wrong), but I just don't care. Since I've been an Xbox live member nothing like this has happened. Do you think people didn't try? Preparedness is key, lack of preparedness is a fundamental flaw that should not be so easily forgiven. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=4701#post-23806 Sun, 29 May 2011 03:08:19 +0000 Christopher Jack 23806@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>Firstly, I'm not little, I'm 6ft4", not huge but far from 'little', Secondly, I like Sony's products but couldn't care for any company &amp; I'm half likely to speak out if someone falsely slanders them but I'm just as likely to do so with Nintnedo, MS or anybody else, just less people slander Nintendo or MS &amp; those that do are normally too stupid to even know why (look up anything that itsucks or SOMI have said). </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=4701#post-23805 Sun, 29 May 2011 02:57:56 +0000 stretch215 23805@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>Let's not argue semantics here, o.k.. I know what "realistically " is going on. I paid to use a service that was denied to me. As a paying customer I have a right to be upset. I don't really care about whatever compensation is being offered, what I'm saying is the service is unavailable when I want it. Bottom line. I don't see how anyof that is causing a stir.Major fuc kup on Sony's part. As far as your love and devotion to Sony go, little Chrissy, read any article/forum topic about Sony (negative) and your answer will appear. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=4701#post-23804 Sun, 29 May 2011 02:36:40 +0000 Christopher Jack 23804@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>@Stretch, I know that I can often be a smartarse but please, enlighten me, how exactly have I been a fan'girl'? For PS Plus you'll get over 2 months extra for compensation, your only options are to patiently wait or continue your bitching &amp; get nowhere at the same speed.<br /> "when you give money for something it's called PAYING for it", You said that you bought the service(same difference between buying a house &amp; renting), realistically you meant that you have payed to use the service-big difference but I knew exactly what you meant yet I continued typing because I occasionally enjoy being a smartarse, just like you continued bitching.<br /> I was in no way defending Sony here on anywhere, I'm just angrier at the hackers who caused this, I don't give a fucking damn what their excuses are, gives them no right to fuck with over 50million people for whatever meaningless regime they may have. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=4701#post-23803 Sun, 29 May 2011 00:41:37 +0000 Phoenixblight 23803@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>Stretch you are not paying for the the servers you are paying for a service that offers you discounts, free games, and cloud saving. You will get month off plus however many days the service has been down it says so on the email they sent. The DLC will be there when it comes back. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=4701#post-23802 Sun, 29 May 2011 00:28:07 +0000 stretch215 23802@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>Cjack you are the biggest Sony fangirl on this site (since tea's banning). Maybe I should repeat my comment and add some clues for those that have trouble with comprehension. Actually, I'LLC explain it for you: I paid for a service (psn +) and the service has been inaccessible. Meaning I haven't been able to access the service I paid for. Do you get it now genius?? On top of that I haven't been able to access the dlc that came along with a game that I also paid for. You see little Chris, when you give money for something it's called PAYING for it. Stop trying to defend your beloved Sony in every thread, it's making g you look silly(er). </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=4701#post-23800 Sat, 28 May 2011 21:26:56 +0000 reask 23800@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>@ Orbit.<br /> Yes online is perfect.<br /> I have been playing kz3 all day.<br /> Its the flipping sites.<br /> As I said not a deal breaker just annoying with the way its going on and off. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=4701#post-23799 Sat, 28 May 2011 20:12:41 +0000 OrbitMonkey 23799@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>Just so I got this straight. It's not anything to do with online play is it? When you say "down again :(", your on about the Playstation internet site? </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=4701#post-23798 Sat, 28 May 2011 18:26:35 +0000 reask 23798@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>Down again. :( </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=4701#post-23797 Sat, 28 May 2011 16:47:29 +0000 mathare92 23797@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>I've had a stable online experience since it officially came back, playing BFBC2 and UC2. Haven't tried accessing any of their sites though, besides the time I downloaded the update. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=4701#post-23796 Sat, 28 May 2011 15:36:19 +0000 OrbitMonkey 23796@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>To be honest if you got both 360/ps3consoles I can see how this whole mess would put you off Sony. Even late adopters must be thinking twice. Me? I've had mine 3-4 years know &amp; like OG I've just got too much invested in my platform of choice to change now.</p> <p>Plus I fucking hate what MS have done to the 360 dash. The blade system was fine thank you very much, now its all clutteted up &amp; don't even mention those fucking avatars. If i want a doll to dress up I'll buy a Action Man -_- </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=4701#post-23793 Sat, 28 May 2011 15:02:41 +0000 Christopher Jack 23793@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>You didn't buy a service, that's insane, you don't even pay for it... unless you own Sony corp :O </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=4701#post-23791 Sat, 28 May 2011 14:55:37 +0000 stretch215 23791@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>I'm with you reask, my ps3 isn't even my main gaming machine but the fact that a service I bought and paid for is inaccessible is bullshit. I don't care who's fault it is. I don't even want to play online, I want my la noire dlc. After this I may never buy a multiplatform game for ps3 again, and if you think I'm alone you're wrong. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=4701#post-23789 Sat, 28 May 2011 14:04:46 +0000 reask 23789@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>I can play on line and am.<br /> I have both consoles.<br /> When I had done the post I had been trying to get on to KZ site and PSN site which I was unable to do.</p> <p>Earlier on I had been able to get in to both.<br /> Its not a deal breaker just a nuisance really that one minute its up and next its down.<br /> I suppose its the randomness that's annoying me more than anything. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=4701#post-23781 Sat, 28 May 2011 12:57:21 +0000 Dralen 23781@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>I can definitely understand why this is upsetting some people, but for me personally; I haven't been bothered by this at all. The only games I play online for consoles is Halo:Reach and Killzone 3, if this had happened to Xbox Live I would have simply just gone and played something else offline. </p> <p>I don't really see what you would really need off of PSN or Xbox Live, most of the stuff on there is purely gimic stuff anyway e.g. gamer pics, avatar stuff, themes, trailers and the arcade games are mostly offline games anyway. </p> <p>While PSN has been down I've just been playing some of the best games on the PS3 again (GOW3, MGS4, Uncharted 2) and also L.A. Noire. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=4701#post-23778 Sat, 28 May 2011 12:18:42 +0000 OlderGamer 23778@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>+1 for both freedom and reask.</p> <p>reask, awhile back I stood at the Sony door. I had a three year old xbox360 die. My PS3, while under used, works fine. I weighed out making that switch to PSN.</p> <p>In the end I decided not too. My wife bought me another xb360(one of those new slims, 250g, and wireless net). I figured I had too much invested in games and dlc to make the switch worth it for me. I did however vow to deversify my future purchases.</p> <p>And soon after PSN was attacked.</p> <p>I know it isn't Sonys fault they were attacked. I am not sure if Sony was at fault for not closing known security holes, or if Sony was neglegent with our personal info. Courts will likly decide that.</p> <p>All I know is that, as a consumer, I understand hardware wears out. My first PS3 and my first xbox360 broke. I bought a replacement PS3, and MS replaced my xbox360. I have gone through 3 PS2s and 5 PSones. And 2 xboxones. the new stuff just has only so many hours of use before something breaks. My NES, SNES, Gen, Jag, TG16, etc are all original purchases and all still working. Tho the NES is finiky w/ the cart loader.</p> <p>But, as a consumer I expect the service to work. I expect it to be maintained. Backed up. Kept securly safe. I expect the downtime to be brief. Live and Steam, and a few other things from MMOs I can think of to the cloud based OnLive and more. Its like Netflix. When I have time to enjoy it, it needs to be there. Period. Its as simple as that.</p> <p>The only thing I can tell you is that if it bothers you that much, then switch to LIVE. Or just make future purchases for xbox360.</p> <p>But with DLC and full fledged digital game downloads, this gen is sadly not as easy to switch between systems as just buying the new Mortal Kombat game for the Mega Drive instead of the SNES. Instead we have a lot more invested in each system then just the simple game purchase.</p> <p>I think the best thing to do is to hang tight. Play on LIVE for a while. I am pretty sure that Sony will get things in order eventualy. I am also pretty sure restoring/fixing/hell maybe even rebuilding PSN is a massive undertaking. Alos they are bound to have bumps along the road. The Sony loyalists, or the ones only invested in PS3 will sit around and wait. They will attempt to point fingers at consumers that voice complaints. But for everyone else, just fire up LIVE/Steam and carry on. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=4701#post-23773 Sat, 28 May 2011 09:09:55 +0000 Christopher Jack 23773@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>I understand your troubles Reask, I just completed Mafia 2(underrated game, just takes a while to like) but now I can't use the free downloadable content.</p> <p>So I'm just as angry as you but there's only choices available: do nothing &amp; simply wait 3 days for the PSN Store to return or use another service like Steam or XBL either during the downtime or just switch altogether.</p> <p>I'm annoyed at Sony over all of this too but I understand that it's not entirely their fault that they were targeted(unless you're gullible enough to believe any rumours) so I'm more angry at those who actually attacked the network, they sure as hell didn't do it for the 50million+ users. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=4701#post-23772 Sat, 28 May 2011 07:51:24 +0000 reask 23772@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>@ orbit<br /> OK I apologise.<br /> I mean the bloody cheek of me. Sarcasm </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=4701#post-23770 Sat, 28 May 2011 05:59:46 +0000 OrbitMonkey 23770@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>Ha Ha Ha!! It's like reading a letter from the Daily Mail :)</p> <p> "It's OUTRAGEOUS!!, I'm OUTRAGED by the OUTAGE!! I will be taking my custom elsewhere!! yours sincerely reask". </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=4701#post-23764 Fri, 27 May 2011 22:59:26 +0000 freedoms_stain 23764@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>@Phoenixblight, he paid for the console, the network services are an innate part of the bundle. After a month of zero service and extended delays on information I think a little bit of impatience with continued delays and outages at this point is understandable and forgiveable. </p> <p>At the same time reask you've got to know that whatever Sony are doing atm is probably part of their phasing in of services and you're going to have to accept that until the PSN is fully restored you might have to deal with some shite and that shite is probably making things better in the long run. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=4701#post-23763 Fri, 27 May 2011 22:38:14 +0000 reask 23763@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>Right so I just accept it.<br /> NO WAY. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=4701#post-23762 Fri, 27 May 2011 22:36:04 +0000 KL 23762@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>They're doing maintenance every now and then to be able to bring the store up,supposedly when the store is functional again these down times will cease at some extend.<br /> Please let's not compare Live with PSN again.In my book Live's recent little outage was a set up just for that for people to make the comparison.a show off if you will </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=4701#post-23761 Fri, 27 May 2011 22:35:12 +0000 Phoenixblight 23761@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>You have paid nothing for the service so you should expect as much. So your car analogy is irrelevant. </p> http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=4701#post-23760 Fri, 27 May 2011 21:50:30 +0000 reask 23760@http://www.vg247.com/forum/ <p>I mean down again tonight.<br /> Sure you can play on line but site access is unavailable Again.<br /> Are Sony just plebs on this or what?<br /> Live is unaffected which leads me to believe Sony are just plebs.</p> <p>I mean is this crap going to be on going and if so can we be told by Sony that they are unable to provide a stable experience and will be taken down randomly to make sure all bases are covered.</p> <p>If I walk in to a garage and buy a car should I not expect said car to be reliable?<br /> Get your act together Sony and forget about the love in with your old base.<br /> Not good enough at this stage with a months downtime and counting.<br /> I personally have no issue with you but will not continue to be treated like this as a customer.<br /> Enough is enough. </p>