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PS4 to get PSone and PS2 support with native 1080p rendering, new VR demos inbound – insider

Tuesday, 25 March 2014 08:46 GMT By Dave Cook

PlayStation 4 is rumoured to be receiving PSone and PS2 classic support soon, together with 1080p rendering for select titles, according to an industry insider.

It comes from tipster Ahsan Rasheed, who has an impeccable track record for revealing accurate leaks. However as always, treat this firmly as rumour for now.

He took to Twitter to discuss some new PS4 insight he claims to have gleaned. Our guess is he heard this through the GDC grapevine, but it’s anyone’s guess right now.

It wasn’t a big leap to suggest that PSone and PS2 classics would be making their way to PS4′s PSN eventually, but the 1080p rendering line is interesting. Where this fits within Sony’s PlayStation Now streaming strategy remains to be seen.

Rasheed then turned his attention to Sony’s Project Morpheus VR headset, stating that Sony wants to hear as much criticism of the device from third-party developers, most likely to help improve the product.

It’s not a stretch to imagine Sony taking an Oculus approach to Project Morpheus, by inviting developers to test and appraise the tech to better hone it. PS4 was created using this approach, and it seems to have worked well for the company.

What’s your take on the above?

Via DualShockers.

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26 Comments

  1. fengato

    Oh my lordy – please let there be Tourist Trophy in native 1080!

    #1 1 year ago
  2. budgiesmuggler

    Gimme gimme gimme!

    #2 1 year ago
  3. jonnymelamet

    This is great news for fans. They don’t need to pay for any other service to access this game. In essence this looks like a good move from Sony.

    However, they have killed any momentum that PS Now had. PS Now is a service that runs on nostalgia. You can play any old game from Playstation on your PS4 via PS Now. By adding PS1 & PS2 support to the console, Sony has stated that PS Now is useless and not required.

    Understand this is just my opinion, I personally think they should have waited until Now launched before announcing this. They have essentially cannibalised millions of pounds (dollars etc…) of research. They have lost another avenue of revenue.

    Their only viable fresh source of income, in my opinion, is VR.

    #3 1 year ago
  4. CycloneFox

    This would be awesome. It’s my most eagerly awaited update for the PS4.

    Also, Sonys approach with Project Morpheus, just like with the PS4, to ask developers how they feel about it and what they would want to have in the final product is just awesome. Other manufactures could take a leaf from their book.

    #4 1 year ago
  5. Fin

    “Local PS2 / PS1 support on PS4 w/ native 1080p rendering for select titles”

    To me, this reads like you could use PS1/PS2 discs in the PS4, then using a software emulator, run them at whatever res you like (much like PCSX2).

    Which is fucking AWESOME.

    If this was coupled with the ability to install games directly onto PS4, so you’d no longer need the disc, holy shit, that would be a game changer (though admittedly unlikely as it would cannibalise existing PS1/2 PSN sales).

    E3 HYPE

    #5 1 year ago
  6. CycloneFox

    @jonnymelamet: You are missing the point. PS Now was never meant to support PS1 and PS2 games. It was always spoken of PS3 games alone. Many people have asked about PS1 and PS2 games, but Sony remained Silent. That’s where the first person eventually broke and told about the emulator that is yet hold back (rumor: due to works on upscaling to 1080p capabilities). It is already a fact, that Sony has a code-base for a PS emulator that already runs on the PSP, PS3 (already ran PS2 games at one state) and PSP Vita. But the reason, why it’s not yet added to the PS4 remains to be seen. It’s most likely, that this rumor may be the reason.

    #6 1 year ago
  7. jonnymelamet

    @CycloneFox Thank you for correcting me on this, but it then leads into another issue.

    What is the purpose of PS Now? Most people who are nostalgic for the PS3 still own one, at least of the people I have spoken to. Why should they pay extra to replace a fully functioning machine with an internet service that has yet to be proven? Doesn’t Nostalgia belong to those who had the experience?

    #7 1 year ago
  8. polygem

    hey sony, if i would have been able to play demons souls on my shiny new ps4, i´d still have a ps4.

    to me 1 gen bc is a must.

    this is why the new consoles aren´t for me.

    this and many other things, like forced subs and ads etc.

    gaming is walking some nasty roads these days.

    #8 1 year ago
  9. dsr

    I wonder if we will be able to just pop in PS2 disk and play the game or we should rebuy them again?

    #9 1 year ago
  10. melonbuster1

    Ok this is crap.. but that vr tho

    #10 1 year ago
  11. Fin

    @jonnymelamet

    Instant play of PS3 games on any compatible device, instant play of PS4 demos.

    You’re expecting everyone to chuck their PS3 and use PS Now instead – that’s not the case, it’ll be a slow transition (the way some PS2 games came to PSN late this gen).

    #11 1 year ago
  12. Panthro

    Adding stuff into the new consoles is always a good thing since they both have basically no good reasons to purchase either aside for people who just want a new console, I wouldn’t be surprised if there is a massive catch like rebuying the games you want.

    They will announce some new bullshit about the games being native 1080p and so being worth a re-purchase since It is technically a ‘new iteration’ of the game.

    Just prepare to be disapointed, we should all know by now nothing ever turns out as smooth as they say.

    #12 1 year ago
  13. Michael Ireland

    When they say native support, the important question here is whether this is for digital downloads only, of if it will support discs straight out of the box. If it’s the latter, I’m all over that.

    #13 1 year ago
  14. CyberMarco

    Too good to be true IMO.

    #14 1 year ago
  15. jonnymelamet

    @Fin The issue si that PS Now is going to have to start running, especially if the rumors of Amazon and Google releasing game streaming devices is true.

    It used to be, 10 years ago, that companies could wait to see if something was going to work out. Unfortunately, in the current, instant gratification led society, the ability to wait is become more of a luxury than a common place practice.

    I hope PS Now is successful, and I hope Sony can remain in the console business as they produce some great games.

    I am attaching an article which states how Sony is able to survive, but also highlights why both Sony and Microsoft need to look out for Amazon and Google.

    http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2014/03/24/can-sony-fend-off-amazon-and-google.aspx

    #15 1 year ago
  16. Michael Ireland

    Guys!

    Hey guys!

    Cloud gaming is the future, guys!

    #16 1 year ago
  17. nikk900

    Playstation now will launch this summer, and will be a netflix like service, with a monthly rate.

    #17 1 year ago
  18. Rat

    These are good news ! …I …I mean “Rumors” !!!!

    #18 1 year ago
  19. Kyl Every1

    @jonnymelamet
    I disagree. For one, this isn’t announced yet and neither has PS Now been firmly launched… this could in fact be part of that. I don’t think we are takling about true backwards compatibility here either, i think its highly unlikely you’ll be putting a PS1/PS2 disc in your PS4 to play…
    I would suspect they would sell/rent or make them available through the subscription. Just my opinion though. Also, PS now will have the ability to play some PS3 games too.

    #19 1 year ago
  20. Kyl Every1

    @jonnymelamet
    I still own my Ps3 but I have no desire to hook it up… Also, PS Now is suppose to make these games available on a range of devices including, PS Vita, PC, TV, mobile and PS4.

    #20 1 year ago
  21. CycloneFox

    @Kyl Every1: Again and again: I don’t know, where people get the idea. PS Now has nothing to do with PS1 and PS2 games, but the service is only supposed to play PS3 games. The servers are working with a cluster of PS3 hardware and every official announcement only mentions PS3 games.

    Of course, this made DigitalFoundry curious, who asked Sony about the matter and evetually some internal person from Sonys PS Now division (this is yet a rumor, of course) spoke out, that PS1 and PS2 games will be palyable via the emulator, which releases on PS4 later.
    .

    There is already a codebase for an emulator running on PSP, PS3 and Vita, which already ran PS2 games on the PS3 for some time, but had problems and was eventually patched out. Right now, it is likely, that Sony is working on an advanced PS4 version of the emulator, that may have overcome those issues, and have yet just held it back, as they are still working on it, yet.

    This is just predictions and rumors of course, but with Ahsan Rasheed, yet another source talks about stuff, that coincides too well with the upper story and that would make sense, if proven true.

    #21 1 year ago
  22. CycloneFox

    @CycloneFox: damn. missing edit function. xD
    The link should have looked like this:
    Already mentioned here

    #22 1 year ago
  23. Grubkiller24

    @Fin It’ll probably be a software update where you can buy the games digitally from the PSN store. Doing all the emulation stuff wouldn’t be worth it.

    #23 1 year ago
  24. Michael Ireland

    @CycloneFox http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic/the-edit-button/

    #24 1 year ago
  25. salarta

    If “local support” means you can pop a disc in and play the game, then I’m glad to hear this. I ended up having to rip my own PS2 discs and play them through an emulator because my PS2 wasn’t working as well with newer TVs. I’m considering a replay of my PS2 copies of FFX or FF12 soon, after I get through my giant backlog of games, so this’ll be great if it happens. After having played inFAMOUS: Second Son and Ground Zeroes last week, I’m currently on Zone of the Enders HD, I have Neptunia V and Persona 3 as the last of my PS3 backlog, and then I move on to my Steam and PS4 backlog (PS Plus = a lot of games).

    #25 1 year ago
  26. tracyis300

    Mann! Jet moto in 1080… Better yet!.. Just make a new one with online multiplayer grand prix

    #26 1 year ago

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    The development of Halo: The Master Chief Collection was of an “outrageous complexity,” which was one of the reasons it suffered a horrible launch. None of that will happen with Halo 5: Guardians, according to Frank O’Connor. Frank O’Connor, Halo franchise development director opened up to Xbox Achievements about the difficult task of developing The […]

  • Destiny House of Wolves: weapon Reforging explained

    When House of Wolves drops in a couple of weeks, you’ll be able to change the stats of some in-game weapons. This process is called ‘Reforging’. Alex goes over all the details Bungie revealed about the new Reforging system. This covers the materials you need, the weapons that can be reforged and much more. Make […]

  • GTA 5 PC: control the in-game phone with your iPhone using this mod

    GTA 5′s latest mod lets you control the in-game phone with your real-life iPhone. Reddit user Planetleak wanted to see if he would succeed in getting his iPhone to control the phone in GTA 5. He did it and has a video to prove it. It’s not a mod per-se, but it emulates mouse and […]

  • SoulCalibur dev wants to know fans’ favourite characters for “something huge”

    SoulCalibur developers are probably working on a new game, because they’re asking fans to vote on their favourite characters. Project Soul, the longtime developer of the SoulCalibur series is soliciting feedback on fans’ favourite characters. The developer said as much in a post on its Facebook page. “Calling all SoulCalibur Fans! Project Soul would like […]

  • Jason Voorhees doesn’t look out of place in new Mortal Kombat X trailer

    Jason Voorhees comes to Mortal Kombat X starting tomorrow and it’s time to celebrate his arrival. Jason Voorhees, the first DLC character for Mortal Kombat X has been given the trailer treatment. Jason is part of the game’s Kombat Pack, owners of which can start using him tomorrow, May 5. Being an iconic horror character, […]

  • Dragon Age: Inquisition – Dragonslayer DLC announced, free to all this week

    Dragon Age: Inquisition is getting a multiplayer expansion this week. BioWare has announced that all owners of Dragon Age: Inquisition will receive a new multiplayer expansion, for free. The expansion is called Dragonslayer and it’s centred around fighting dragons, hence the name. Three new playable characters will join the roster as you explore an all-new […]

  • Sonder is still happening, and this is the best news of the week

    Sonder is a really interesting-looking new indie adventure, which I am quite excited to remember exists. We first heard about Sonder in late 2013, when its debut trailer introduced us to a Kamai Media’s ambitious vision. In the intervening months Kamai has been hard at work on its space station management sim slash non-linear narrative […]

  • Twitter axes playable Internet Archive embeds

    The dream has died: Twitter has disabled Internet Archive game embeds. Remember how for a few days you could tweet a link to an a game on the Internet Archive and it was playable direct from that tweet? Well, Twitter has cancelled that. All those tweets now just show links. GamesIndustry suspects it has something […]

  • Lords of the Fallen, Divinity: Original Sin developers will reveal new games at E3 2015

    Lords of the Fallen developer Deck13 and Divinity: Original Sin developer Larian Studios have new projects in the works which will be revealed at E3 2015. Publisher Focus Home Interactive is behind both new games. In a French press release [PDF] spotted by RPG Codex, Focus said it will show off the two unrevealed titles […]

  • Rare game announce expected at E3 2015

    Rare’s new game will be shown off at E3 2015, apparently. Rare hasn’t announced a reveal, and neither has Microsoft, but it looks like the news has slipped out anyway. IGN cites a tweet from Rare creative director Simon Woodroffe in which he says that a new project from Rare designer Gregg Mayles will be […]

  • Batgirl expansion included in $40 Batman: Arkham Knight season pass

    Here’s what you get in the $40 Batman: Arkham Knight season pass. Batman: Arkham Knight’s season pass was announced last week, but apart from the news that it would cost a whopping $40/£33, we didn’t get many details of what it would include. Thankfully, Warner Bros. has since acknowledged the clamour this caused, as players […]

  • Star Wars Day Xbox sale discounts Force Unleashed, Lego games

    Star Wars Day is upon us, and here’s an Xbox sale to mark it. Microsoft is offering discounts on Xbox 360 games to celebrate May 4. From my desk here in Australia the sale is a bit light on content – two Lego games, plus The Force Unleashed and its DLC packs. Your mileage may […]

  • Here’s hoping this tease means we see Mass Effect at E3 2015

    Mass Effect boss Mike Gamble has shared a teaser image, which we’re more than happy to draw speculative conclusions from. The new Mass Effect game in the works at BioWare Edmonton is a mysterious beast. Judging by how long it’s been in development, it feels like we’re about due for a proper reveal, to clear […]

  • Watch almost a whole hour of Wolfenstein: The Old Blood

    Wolfenstein: The Old Blood is almost here. Are you ready for old-school shooter action? Wolfenstein: The Old Blood publisher Bethesda livestreamed almost an hour of the Machine Games shooter recently, and has now uploaded the archive to YouTube. Check it out below: Wolfenstein: The Old Blood launches digitally on PC, PS4 and Xbox One on […]

  • Splatoon lacks voice chat to promote a positive online experience

    Nintendo’s multiplayer game Splatoon will not contain a voice chat option in order to “focus on the positive aspects” of online gaming. Speaking in the latest issue of Edge magazine (thanks, GamesRadar), Splatoon co-director Yusuke Amano said personal experience with negativity in online voice chat was one of the main reasons for excluding the feature. […]

  • D4 on PC: differences from Xbox One version, system specs announced

    D4: Dark Dreams Don’t Die – Season 1 is coming to PC, and Access Games has provided a list of features different from the Xbox One version. We’ve pulled most of the changes off the game’s website and posted them below, along with the PC specs. D4 on PC Kinect gesture input controls replaced with […]

  • The Megalodon returns to Battlefield 4 with the latest CTE patch

    The Megalodon Easter Egg in Battlefield 4 may have been removed earlier this year from Naval Strike, but it has since resurfaced on the CTE with the latest patch. I’d make a Jaws reference, but it’s been done to death. The shark is shown in the video on the Paracel Storm map which was where […]

  • Survival horror game Kodoku has a new work-in-progress trailer

    Kodoku, the survival horror title from Carnivore Studio, has a new work-in-progress video available, showing you how the game is coming along. Announced for PlayStation 4 and Vita back in 2013, the game is slated for release sometime this year, and tasks the player with avoiding mythical Japanese ghosts using only magic and stealth. Thanks, […]

  • Current HoloLens prototype has noticeably “tighter” FoV compared to January build

    Microsoft’s augmented reality headset HoloLens is still very much in the prototype stage, according to various reports out of the Build Conference. Microsoft hasn’t discussed technical specs with the press yet as nothing is set in stone, but during a hands-on at Build, Ars Technica noticed the prototypes had a “x86 processor, 2GB RAM, 802.11ac […]

  • Silent Hills petition asking Konami to continue development has over 50,000 signatures

    A petition to save the Silent Hills game has been formed by fans in the hopes Konami will change its mind and bring the collaboration with Guillermo del Toro back from the dead. Konami confirmed on Monday the Silent Hill remake from film director Del Toro and Metal Gear’s Hideo Kojima had been cancelled, but […]

  • Attack on Titan has a US release date, title changed in EU over copyright claim

    Attack on Titan: Humanity in Chains will be released under a different title in Europe, according to the publisher, and while a release date has been set for North America, the same cannot be said for fans across the pond. According to Atlus, a copyright claim in Europe has forced the company to publish the […]

  • Yooka-Laylee meets final Kickstarter Stretch Goal in less than 24 hours

    The Kickstarter for Playtonic’s Yooka-Laylee sailed beyond its final £1 million ($1.5 million) Stretch Goal overnight, which will allow for a simultaneous release on all announced platforms. Once funded, Yooka-Laylee was slated for release on Linux, Mac, PC, PlayStation 4, Wii U, and Xbox One; however, a simultaneous release on all platforms wasn’t guaranteed unless […]

  • Not a Hero will miss its May 7 release date, but not by much

    Not a Hero will miss its May 7 release date, according to an announcement from Roll7. Not to worry though, it’s only by a week. According to the developer, the delay is due to “having undergone super-secret upgrades to crank shit up to 60fps.” The extra week will provide the additional time needed for tweaking […]

  • Assassin’s Creed, The Crew, Far Cry 4, other Ubisoft titles on sale through the Humble Store

    Ubisoft has put a number of its games on sale through the Humble Store. Franchises Assassin’s Creed and Far Cry are on discount as are single release titles. The list of games on sale are below. For pricing in your region, head over to the Humble Store. Anno 2070 Complete Edition Assassin’s Creed 3 Assassin’s […]

  • Payday 2: Repeater rifle, Peacemaker pistol introduced with The Butcher’s Western Pack

    Overkill Software released the 21st DLC pack for Payday 2 yesterday, titled The Butcher’s Western Pack. The pack will run you $4.99/€4.99 and other digital distribution channels. “For our 21st DLC we go back in time to visit the Wild West and the arsenal it was known for,” said the developers. “With it we’re introducing […]

  • The Yooka-Laylee Kickstarter just launched and has already met its funding goal

    Playtonic Games launched the Kickstarter campaign for Yooka-Laylee at 5pm UK, and in just over 30 minutes it already hit its $270,000 funding goal. You can watch the funding counter continue to roll over through the link. Yooka-Laylee is a 3D platformer where the characters use special moves such as Yooka’s tongue grapple and Laylee’s […]

  • Batch of hi-res Persona 5 screenshots released by PlayStation Japan

    A set of screenshots have been released for Persona 5, and while you’ve seen these before in magazines and on the official website, these are high-res versions. Some will even look familiar to those who watched the first gameplay trailer back in February. The shots were posted over on the PlayStation Japan Persona 5 game […]

  • Is Alien: Isolation getting HTC Vive support?

    Placeholder images for SteamVR icons have been found and it looks like there may be support for Alien: Isolation, so if you enjoy soiling yourself, get psyched! NeoGAF members found a thread on Reddit, where a little rooting around in a Steam directory unearthed the images. The list includes both games and apps, and as […]

  • Xbox Live multiplayer is free this weekend on Xbox 360

    Xbox 360 players in all Xbox Live regions can play multiplayer online for free this weekend. If you are a Silver member, this means you are Golden from May 1-3 and can play multiple games online with your buddies. All you have to do is log-in to Xbox Live.

  • Assassin’s Creed actor Michael Fassbender confirms film production starts September

    The Assassin’s Creed movie will start production this fall, actor Michael Fassbender (Prometheus, 300, X-Men:First Class) as confirmed. Speaking with ComingSoon.net, Fassbender said filming will start in September, which is inline with Ubisoft’s announcement in February. The actor will star in the film alongside Oscar-winning actress Marion Cotillard, both reuniting with their MacBeth director Justin […]

  • Eve Online boss states VR won’t be as big as we think next year

    I don’t think I’m the only one who wants VR to hurry up and manifest into a Sword Art Online-esque reality. Unfortunately, the chief executive officer at the studio behind Eve Online doesn’t think that will be happening any time soon. Talking to Venture Beat, Hilmar Veigar Pétursson touched on his excitement at the prospects […]

  • The Last of Us: Left Behind goes standalone in May on PS3, PS4

    Naughty Dog has announced that The Last of US DLC Left Behind will be released as a standalone experience next month. It can be purchased for both PlayStation 3 and PS4 through the PS Store and a two-hour demo of the Factions multiplayer will also be made available. “The Left Behind standalone game will have […]

  • EA’s annual E3 press conference takes place on June 15

    Electronic Arts has announced its annual E3 2015 press conference will take place the day before the show kicks off on June 15. EA, Microsoft, Sony and Ubisoft always hold press events the day before E3 officially starts, so this isn’t any surprise, really. The presser, dubbed “Live to Play”, will last one hour and […]

  • Steam exchange rate mix-up closes down community market

    The Steam community market was buggered up big time today after a mix-up with currency conversion had items selling from practically nothing, to millions of dollars. PC Gamer picked up on the news after a thread on Reddit appeared with screenshots depicting just how silly things were getting over there. The currency exchange rate data […]

  • Britney Spears signs five-year deal with Glu for new mobile game

    Pop star Britney Spears has signed a five-year deal with Glu mobile for a new, untitled game. The mobile game will feature her “voice, likeness, and creative influence,” and is due for release sometime next year. Glu also signed a deal with Katy Perry in February, so expect a game revolving around her to hit […]