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Xbox One console reviews begin, get the VG247 impressions here

Wednesday, 20th November 2013 05:05 GMT By Dave Cook

Xbox One console reviews have begun, and as ever we’re collecting those links like a next-gen squirrel, foraging through the tech undergrowth. VG247′s Dave Cook also gives impressions of his console.

UPDATE: Brenna’s produced a neat video walkthrough for the Xbox One interface. It covers many functions such as the store, pins, snap and more. Be sure to check it out.

Here’s a list of all the Xbox One console reviews breaking today, and you’ll find my own impressions beneath. Have a look and see what the critics thought here.=

Dave’s Impressions

I’ve been playing around with my Xbox One for a day now, and I know that’s not nearly long enough to make a judgement call, so consider these to be first impressions ONLY. It’s interesting to finally have the console in a home environment, as it beats the sweaty, noisy atmosphere of gamescom and E3. So to give the unit a fairer appraisal in the wild, I’ll be writing up another opinion piece on the hardware for Monday. Stay tuned for it then.

The Xbox One console

Well here we are. It’s been almost seven years since I got my Xbox 360. I bought it for BioShock. It was the tits. When the console arrived I took the liberty of snapping the box and parts as I unpacked them. You guys like seeing things unboxed right? The actual console unit itself is surprisingly light. I expected it to be much heavier after seeing it at gamescom in the summer, but it’s lighter than an old school PS3 that’s for sure. It’s also mostly grates, so cooling shouldn’t be an issue.

I’d take a photo of the console itself but it’s covered in debug codes and disclaimer stickers I probably shouldn’t be snapping. But what I can tell you is that it sits nicely next to my telly and cable box and in terms of volume it seems to purr along without reaching Dreamcast levels of din. Sega’s console sounded like it was trying to take off, after all. I plugged the Xbox One in, turned it on and was met with the day-one update, which at the time of writing clocked in at 1324MB. It downloaded very quickly however.

The Xbox One controller

I’ve spoken about Microsoft’s new pad before on these pages, and initial tests at game shows suggested that the pad – while nice – paled in comparison to PS4′s DualShock 4. After a bit more time with it, I definitely feel that gap has narrowed. The fact that the left stick is still above the d-pad makes ideal for the shooters I’m so fond of, while the grippy sticks are very comfortable indeed. The quiet triggers are smooth and the whole thing just feels quite lovely in the hands. I still feel the LB and RB buttons to be quite odd, as they don’t press in that far, but it’s a personal niggle.

Xbox One Kinect

The new Kinect is a sturdy piece of kit. The improved build quality is evident from the moment you take it out of the box. It has a long cable to connect with the base Xbox One unit, which means you needn’t shuffle your living room about in order to use it. For those disinterested in the device, you can turn off Kinect log-ins and opt for the standard pad method instead, but for the sake of this article, I tried it out. The set-up screen looks like this:

It takes seconds to set-up. From there I was able to start using voice commands by beginning with the phrase ‘Xbox.’ What’s neat is that any follow on words are highlighted in green on the dash. For example: I can be on the first menu – which is the activity feed – and say “Xbox,” which highlights my options in green. I was able to add on phrases like ‘Pins’ to go to my favourites board, ‘Bing’ to start a voice search, or ‘Store’ to hit up the shop.

You can even be really specific. I noticed after saying ‘Xbox’ that the Forza 5 advert on my dash went green, so I simply said, ‘Forza 5′ to hop straight into that menu. From there I could view the game’s gallery by saying ‘Image 1,’ ‘Image 2′ and so on. It made me feel like a dick, but it works so well that I’ll be testing this out a bit more in my fleshed out appraisal next week. Colour me surprised.

Xbox One dashboard

That’s what it looks like, and yes, you can add me this weekend if you want. I don’t bite. Much. So like I mentioned above, you can navigate all of this using voice, or thumb through it using the controller sticks. It’s similar to Xbox 360 in that regard. Transferring my profile over was as quick as entering my Windows ID. My gamerscore, avatar and gamerpic moved across in less than a minute. The activity feed is your marquee option however, and it acts like Twitter.

Basically you can look down the list to see which of your friends are playing what, who just earned an achievement, and I’m guessing this is where shared images and footage goes once it’s uploaded. The feature wasn’t live when I tried it, so again, this will be discussed in my article next week.

The achievements menu has had an overhaul, and there were even some of those collective, time-based awards active when I logged in yesterday. The two on offer were for FIFA 14: play five online matches (expires in ten days), and Madden NFL 25: complete a game of football during the two week period after launch (expires in 16 days). I quite like the idea of new and rotating achievements. Here’s a photo:

Note that the screen’s background is Diablo 3 Xbox 360 as it was the last game I had played at the time. It’s a neat touch. Here’s how the achievement screen looks for Call of Duty: Ghosts current-gen:

Now I’m actually going to play some bloody games. First up is Dead Rising 3, and you can get my impressions on Capcom Vancouver’s zombie romp this Thursday. Just a heads-up as well, I was able to play the game when it was about 43% installed, so you needn’t wait for the whole thing to load up before diving in.

Anyway, be sure to check back here to see more critic’s reviews as we add them, and our Xbox One game coverage as it transpires.

Meanwhile, what do you make of the Xbox One so far?

Disclosure: To assist in writing the waffle above, Microsoft sent Dave a debug Xbox One console.

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109 Comments

  1. bobnice

    Cant wait for mine, 2 more days. Looks great so far although I dont agree with the Dualshock 4 comment…while its an improvement over the ds3, I dont think its better than the 360 controller (best controller ever imo).

    #1 9 months ago
  2. redwood

    an 8 from polygon :)

    #2 9 months ago
  3. Doppleganger

    Even at gizmodo they are saying promising things about Xbox One.
    I have to dissagre with the both of you, the Wavebird for Gamecube is the best controller ever made.

    #3 9 months ago
  4. ddtd

    Dave, how long of a wait was there before you could start playing DR3? Is it as fast as the reported install times on the PS4, or longer?

    #4 9 months ago
  5. TheBlackHole

    “initial tests at game shows suggested that the pad – while nice – paled in comparison to PS4′s DualShock 4.”

    Are you high?

    :)

    #5 9 months ago
  6. gomersoul

    Finally someone who sees that the ds4 has now surpassed the Xbox controller. Glad I’m not the only one!

    #6 9 months ago
  7. polygem

    nice write up. interesting thoughts about the controller. i am still unsure about that. i tried the ds4 in a local gamestop (not played a game with it though) and i really liked it but still wasn’t sold on the stick placement. would be great to hear more impressions and comparisons. sure, it’s mostly personal preference but still interesting.
    i really like the xbox ui (rad red btw). the overall console design is a bit meh though imo. it really screams ‘slim version incoming christmas 2014′.
    i will receive a x1 this friday but planned not to open the box and return it to the shop – unboxing my ps4 nov29 instead.

    #7 9 months ago
  8. polygem

    @6: huh, the internet is full of ‘best pad i have ever used’ statements. to me that smells a bit fishy actually. i mean, compared to the ds3 i definitely believe it but compared to the 360/x1 pad? hmm…..

    #8 9 months ago
  9. Joe Musashi

    The internet is also full of “Latest mario game is amazing” comments. I guess that smells fishy too, right?

    JM

    #9 9 months ago
  10. Christopher Jack

    @5, The improvements in the DS4 over the DW3 made a much larger statement that I’d imagine stayed in the minds of everyone who touched it- EVERYTHING is supposedly better. As for the Xbox One it appears universally accepted that the new bumpers are poo compared to the Xbox 360 bumpers & I’d imagine that would also stick in the mind of everyone who has touched it.

    You can’t accurately compare from memory unless you have an eidetic one so the experiences that stand out tend to be the most considered in the mental comparisons possibly leading to a slightly skewed result in favour of the DS4. You really need both controllers together to compare them. Either way I think you’d be fine with either controller.

    One thing I’ll never understand though is the praise for the asymmetrical joystick layout. I personally find my left thumb naturally resting on the D-pad on the X360 controller, I mean all the precision motions in the majority of games come from the right stick which is in a similar position on either dualshock or xbox controllers.

    #10 9 months ago
  11. polygem

    Well i’ve tried the ds4 personally. Liked it but wasn’t blown away. Have you played the new mario joe?

    #11 9 months ago
  12. polygem

    @10. Thx. Nice write up. Can’t comment much right now but i also believe both will be great controllers. I personally prefer the asymetric layout but i will pick up a ps4 anyway. Controllers are essential though. If you don’t like them, the whole experience will be less enjoyable to you.

    #12 9 months ago
  13. Dave Cook

    RE: my DualShock 4 comment. I should have said that this was based on my initial test at gamescome, which was two games max per system = not enough to make a proper judgement call. I think it was because DS4 is so radically improved, while Xbox 360′s design was already good. I think that jump in quality surprised me most.

    After a day and night with Xbox One’s pad, it’s fine. No issues.

    #13 9 months ago
  14. Joe Musashi

    Logical contradictions aren’t invalidated by a lack of anecdotal evidence.

    The constant is “the internet is full of comments about..” but, apparently, that can be A-OK or ‘fishy’. The only difference is the subject matter.

    There’s no need to suggest malpractice simply because you don’t agree with what’s being said.

    JM

    #14 9 months ago
  15. monkeygourmet

    I have a feeling @Poly will open the box… :)

    #15 9 months ago
  16. monkeygourmet

    @JM

    If you really wanted to get to the point, you could have asked Poly to provide evidence for the statement:

    “the internet is full of ‘best pad i have ever used”

    (Sorry Poly, but I haven’t seen huge evidence for this)

    Instead you tried to bring Mario into it, which only looks like your trying to ‘bait’ or get Poly to ‘emote’.

    #16 9 months ago
  17. tenthousandgothsonacid

    It’s a big ugly thing innit ?

    No, not Dave, the xbone :)

    #17 9 months ago
  18. fihar

    @16
    I think what Joe is saying is that disagreeing with a consensus isn’t reason enough to call it ‘fishy’.

    #18 9 months ago
  19. Gekidami

    He was just just pointing out the usual fanboy hypocrisy, is all.

    #19 9 months ago
  20. monkeygourmet

    @18

    What concensus? :)

    #20 9 months ago
  21. fihar

    @20
    That the DS4 is the best controller ever?
    I’m not sure how you can look at poly’s comments and not see that.

    #21 9 months ago
  22. viralshag

    Haven’t got time to read the whole article yet but regarding the pads, I think the DS4 will get better write ups because it’s such a massive improvement over the DS3. The new Xbox pad is more of a refinement on something that was already pretty great, so it’s understandable for people not to get that excited over it in comparison.

    I hated the previous DS pads but I was more than impressed with the DS4, they’re pretty much on equal footing for me these days.

    #22 9 months ago
  23. Docker Al

    @ Dave, what demo’s are available & do any of the DL titles have a free trial?

    #23 9 months ago
  24. polygem

    I wont dance the dance with you joe. You’re still standing on my foot.
    @geki. Sure, true fanboy here. That’s why i enjoyed all the systems current gen and preordered x1 and ps4. You know very well who’s the fanbot here. Hint: not me.
    @mg: oh boy, i hope i wont…

    #24 9 months ago
  25. Fin

    @23

    Pretty sure the store isn’t up yet, but I want to know the answer to this too!!

    #25 9 months ago
  26. viralshag

    Ok read the article, I’m so excited for Friday… if my console doesn’t turn up, someones getting a beating!

    #26 9 months ago
  27. Dave Cook

    @23 not yet mate, that will all go live on Friday when the store launches. I’ll report back on Monday.

    #27 9 months ago
  28. absolutezero

    They’ve fixed the D-Pad on the Xbone pad! huzzah!

    Strangely though I find myself in the position that the three games I am looking forward to more than anything are 2 handheld games and a WiiU title.

    Next Gen psssshhhhh

    Thats also a lovely jumper Dave.

    #28 9 months ago
  29. G1GAHURTZ

    For all those who can’t be bothered to read/watch all of the reviews… Here is my take on them:

    All in all, a mixed bunch.

    Most of the dedicated gaming sites edge slightly towards a more negative opinion, but also saying that everything could change in the future, and the potential is there.

    It’s basically like reading a review of a game from a long franchise, where it gets an average score, and all the reviewer talks about is why such and such might be better in the next version.

    However, many of the dedicated gaming sites also give the X1 the edge over the PS4, as it stands, in terms of games and functionality. With a number of them giving the X1 a higher final score.

    The more tech oriented sites are split into two camps. The ones who just expect Kinect to work with any command that they can think of, and are obviously left disappointed, and the ones who see it as a super, futuristic gadget with hyper realistic graphics.

    Then there are the mainstream media reviews, who write for casuals and people who know next to nothing about games in general. They seem to be pretty hyped for the X1 as an impressive gadget of the future, too.

    All in all, the main points that I got were:

    Pros:
    Slick interface
    True next gen features
    High quality visuals
    Media integration
    General ease of use

    Cons:
    Big and ugly
    Kinect voice controls are hit and miss
    Loss of some basic functions from the 360
    Nothing new in gameplay terms
    Interface confused one or two reviewers
    Expensive

    Hope that helps…

    #29 9 months ago
  30. Ireland Michael

    So is it true that it’s noisy?

    #30 9 months ago
  31. G1GAHURTZ

    Didn’t see anything about being noisy in any of the reviews…

    Maybe ask Dave in his forum AMA.

    #31 9 months ago
  32. monkeygourmet

    @30

    Im suprised if it is that noisy, Dave and Dr Damn’s links in the Q&A (forum), seem to state it’s pretty quiet.

    I would hope so, my I7 & GTX 780 run almost silent. I know the box is smaller but I was hoping both machines would be very smooth running.

    I guess the only difficulty on the PS4 front is they have a lot to cram in a small space, Xbox has more room for ventilation.

    @21

    Sorry, I meant that I’ve yet to see any stand offs that fall completly in the DS4′s favour as per Poly’s statement.

    #32 9 months ago
  33. viralshag

    Dave said it runs pretty quiet.

    #33 9 months ago
  34. Ireland Michael

    The way Dave phrased it above it sounded like he was saying its noisy… just not Dreamcast noisy.

    What about the PS4? Anyone know the noise levels on that? Nothing kills my enjoyment of my gaming experiences than a helicopter fan drowning out my ears.

    #34 9 months ago
  35. Legendaryboss

    @29
    It does thanks.

    My point: My oh my what have we here? A little argument over fishy comments.

    The marketplace still not up, no impressions? Both consoles have performed as expected mostly.

    #35 9 months ago
  36. Dave Cook

    @33 @34 Near silent during gameplay and while browsing menus, louder when installing but not even near Dreamcast levels of sound.

    I’ll likely revise this further in my big appraisal next week once I’ve played more games.

    #36 9 months ago
  37. Ireland Michael

    I guess disc installations are a mild blessing for our ears if nothing else.

    #37 9 months ago
  38. Dave Cook

    @37 Yeah, I wrote the above while installing Dead Rising 3, hence the sound mention. I’ll be in a better position to comment after a weekend of play.

    #38 9 months ago
  39. Hcw87

    How is it compared to this PS4?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvwY0Q7uuRs

    #39 9 months ago
  40. bennyx

    @dave
    Does the controller need batteries like the 360 controller?? Or is everything all built in like DS4

    #40 9 months ago
  41. Ireland Michael

    @39 Comments say it only gets that noisy during installation.

    None of these machines really have any excuse to be noisy, honestly. They’re pretty low tech.

    #41 9 months ago
  42. monkeygourmet

    @Dave

    Do you have to put a towel under it to stop the ‘secret sauce’ leaking out of the GPU onto your carpet?

    Edit:
    :) +1 for ‘Cillit Bang’

    Also, serious question: “Why are there embargo’s on Ryse and Forza?”

    Surely it won’t effect people cancelling pre-orders if they are both shit? PS4 got some fairly average scores but people know it’s launch title syndrome.

    #42 9 months ago
  43. Dave Cook

    @42 Yeah, and I’d advise it too. Cillit Bang doesn’t get it out the rug.

    @40 The pad I was sent needs AA batteries. Didn’t come with a charger, but it’s micro USB so I could use my Android cable and rechargeable AAs – I *think*. Haven’t tried this yet.

    #43 9 months ago
  44. Ireland Michael

    No play and charge kit? That’s pretty fuckin stingy. Like the hardware wasn’t already expensive enough as it is.

    #44 9 months ago
  45. Dave Cook

    @44 Bear in mind I got a debug kit. Full retail may have these items.

    #45 9 months ago
  46. Hcw87

    @41
    Yes, but i’ve read that PS4 caches games while playing them, so won’t it allways be noisy every time you fire up a new game? As caching doesn’t mean it’s permanently installing it.

    #46 9 months ago
  47. Dave Cook

    Surprised no one’s mentioned the glimpse of my SNES and Dreamcast yet.

    #47 9 months ago
  48. bennyx

    Yeah I guess it’s a PS4 for me,by the way nice snes and dreamcast Dave

    #48 9 months ago
  49. polygem

    @44: yes, it only comes with a pack of duracell batteries. you´ll have to buy a play and charge kit for 24 euro…or use rechargeable batteries.

    just to balance things a bit: i think that´s a fishy move from ms.

    #49 9 months ago
  50. Joe Musashi

    @19 It’s that to the power of 2, or even 3. But point it out or reflect it back at the culprits and watch how quickly they spin it into something it’s not. Especially given the consistent baiting efforts demonstrated by both recently. So that’s a layer of double standards and denial added on top.

    Same old, same old. Cry me a fucking river.

    JM

    #50 9 months ago
  51. monkeygourmet

    @50

    If you feel the need to point things out yet you feel it’s getting you nowhere, why bother?

    “Same old, same old. Cry me a fucking river. (but I still feel the consistant need to reply)”

    It almost looks like you enjoy it?

    #51 9 months ago
  52. polygem

    @50: ok, let´s swing for a song.
    i didn´t spin. i didn´t bait. i buy a ps4 at launch because i think it´s a great product. i´ve said that on here several times. the pad receives a lot of praise atm and that´s probably deserved. i tried it, liked it but wasn´t blown away by it. many people call it the best pad they´ve ever touched and i wouldn´t sign that yet. my own hands on experience left a taste of journo-hyperbole in my mind. i called that “fishy” here.
    same old same old really describes your poor baiting attempts shatner. try to download a few new songs, maybe then you wont sound like a broken record over and over again.
    but then. it worked, i made your life a bit better again by responding to you. i know you love it. it´s ok. no need to thank me.

    #52 9 months ago
  53. Legendaryboss

    @50/51/52
    This is real fishy: So what do we eat with our fish? A good side of vinegar/salted heavy pile of chips. What do we use to attract fish? Bait.

    Um carry on.

    #53 9 months ago
  54. TrickyAudio

    Fucking Hell, Kinect is the size of a small console itself!

    Hoping by the time I get one next year, all the TV stuff in the UK will be live. Still seems abit half cooked to me at the moment.

    #54 9 months ago
  55. bennyx

    Now that I’ve found out that I need to buy batteries for the new X1 controller or a charger dock, I’m definitely buying PS4 now at least I won’t have to buy batteries every other day…… ……. ……. Bad move MS very bad move

    #55 9 months ago
  56. AmiralPatate

    @55
    Rechargeable batteries do exist though.

    #56 9 months ago
  57. Ireland Michael

    @56 Not really the point. It’s unnecessary extra expense on top of an already overpriced piece of hardware.

    #57 9 months ago
  58. G1GAHURTZ

    By the way…

    According to one review (can’t remember exactly which one, but think it’s Polygon), the batteries in the X1 controller were still going after over a week and a half of constant use.

    This is because the X1 controller knows when you’ve put it down, and isn’t in use, and it goes into a low power state until you pick it up again.

    Compare this to the PS4 controller, where reviews quoted needing to charge after ~8 hours of play.

    Also… It’s not for me to comment on other people’s luxury goods purchasing logic, but making your choice of games console over batteries in the controller seems kind of short sighted.

    Edit: Yes, that info is in the Polygon review.

    #58 9 months ago
  59. monkeygourmet

    @G1GA

    “the batteries in the X1 controller were still going after over a week and a half of full use”

    ^This

    I’ve heard that too, and at the same time the PS4′s pad need charging more often than people thought it would. Prob speaker / touchpad helps to drain the battery a lot quicker.

    #59 9 months ago
  60. TrickyAudio

    Yeah the battery life on the X1 wipes the floor with the DS4. Having said that, after playing with both I prefer the feel of the PS4 controller. Im hoping it’ll be improved in any future updated units.

    Also, heard that the Xbox UI doesn’t display the battery life of the controller? Is this true? Small feature, but still annoying.

    #60 9 months ago
  61. bennyx

    @56
    Yeah but that’s just an extra cost that can’t I afford

    #61 9 months ago
  62. DeyDoDoughDontDeyDough

    Memories are too short. I will never forgive MS for what they originally planned for Xbox One. They changed it because they had to, but let’s not forget how it attempted to derail console gaming.

    #62 9 months ago
  63. Ekona

    @62: You say derail, I say plan for the future. I would’ve loved the original idea for the xbone, but sadly the market wasn’t ready for it. I can totally understand why, but I also suspect there’s an awful lot of people out there who would’ve bought the mk1 too.

    No-one’s forgiving anything, they’re just purchasing what suits them at this point in time.

    #63 9 months ago
  64. Djoenz

    http://techcrunch.com/2013/11/19/review-microsoft-xbox-one/ 7/10

    #64 9 months ago
  65. viralshag

    @63, Agreed. I had no problem at all with the original plans for the Xbox.

    #65 9 months ago
  66. Djoenz

    The original plans were shite.

    #66 9 months ago
  67. DeyDoDoughDontDeyDough

    @65

    Then you either haven’t thought through the implications of handing corporation that much control of your property, or you have and couldn’t give a shit. Not sure which is worse.

    #67 9 months ago
  68. viralshag

    @67, Well considering Valve is ultimately in control of my Steam account and the 4 digit figure sum of money I’ve spent there, how is that any different?

    #68 9 months ago
  69. bradk825

    @67 Nobody is signing over their house and car first of all, so it’s not such a big thing, and like 68 said, it’s not that different from Steam. ALso, why would that “control” ever be abused? If they want to sell you more games, they won’t revoke licenses for no good reason.

    I’m glad they reversed it, don’t get me wrong, but it’s not near as bad as the sky is falling crowd made it out to be.

    ON TOPIC: The dashboard looks well made and easy to use, and I like that the voice commands are as responsive as promised. I still think that as far as the Kinect non-game stuff there will be more “Gee that’s neat” moments than “Holy shit” moments, but that’s ok.

    Hope you’re getting Forza Dave, I have your gamer tag now! Watch your bumper. ;-)

    #69 9 months ago
  70. DeyDoDoughDontDeyDough

    @68

    Valve is not a publicly traded company. Plus, Steam has competitors on its chosen platform. Both factors, plus Valves’s strong pro-consumer ethic make it a very different beast indeed.

    #70 9 months ago
  71. TheKeyPit

    Thanks for your first impression. I can’t wait for friday, because I already got Dead Rising 3 but no console. I’d really like to play some coop with you Mr. Cook.

    #71 9 months ago
  72. polygem

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-qxDdgiaWo

    (he already has one one though…can you spot it?)

    #72 9 months ago
  73. Eregol

    I started the day jealous of XB1 owners getting that lovely UI. As I’ve read more and more over the course of the day I have found out it’s a buggy broken mess. The spoofing they did at the unveil being a best case scenario.
    I can understand why Polygon gave it a ‘similar’ score to the PS4, but why it’s above I really do not know.

    #73 9 months ago
  74. Joe Musashi

    So much clutching of straws and eager deflection and distraction.

    None of which negates the original hypocrisy.

    JM

    #74 9 months ago
  75. antraxsuicide

    @70 Thinking that any company cares about its customers is absolutely childish. Gabe does what’ll make him money, which is why he’s as contrary as possible for the hipsters. Valve cares about you just as much as Microsoft.

    And I’ll go on record that I loved the idea of getting something new for a next-gen console. Too bad that couldn’t happen.

    #75 9 months ago
  76. polygem

    @74: i only had to change it slightly but now it makes sense.

    “So much clutching of straws and eager deflection and distraction.

    None of which negates the original hypocrisy:

    JM”

    #76 9 months ago
  77. DeyDoDoughDontDeyDough

    @75

    “Valve cares about you just as much as Microsoft.”

    Which you chose to believe just this minute to bolster the legitimacy of your point of view. However, all the evidence points in the opposite direction. Has Valve ever put out a bad game? Ever? No. That should tell you all you need to know about how much it cares. There is literally not a sliver of evidence that Valve doesn’t care about its customers. Not a sliver.

    Microsoft, on the other hand? Oh boy. Every time one of them speaks on stage I think they’re about to sell me a car welded together from two other cars. They are shifty as hell.

    #77 9 months ago
  78. Joe Musashi

    The more and more and more and more and more childish effort you make to divert away from your original childish efforts, the more you show yourself up.

    Please continue.

    JM

    #78 9 months ago
  79. Djoenz

    @JM
    I have decided to be more positive to ppl or on forum in general. We are not here to educate ppl just to have fun and express our love for gaming and games and consoles and never corporations.

    #79 9 months ago
  80. polygem

    @78: alright. spot the difference. again.

    “The more and more and more and more and more childish effort you make to divert away from your original childish efforts, the more you show yourself up.

    Please continue:

    JM”

    @79: come on, the guy needs his hobby!

    #80 9 months ago
  81. Joe Musashi

    Djoenz, how you wish to contribute is, of course, up to you.

    Unlike some, I have never sought to engineer reasons as to why an opinion may not be valid, to tell others to “just fuck off” or even threaten to “ban their creepy ass” (lol, as if I could!). I absolutely believe in free speech and the freedom of expression.

    Calling a spade a spade is not a crime.

    Of course, none of this invalidates the original hypocrisy.

    That’s still there. Despite so many repeated efforts to distract from it. Every additional effort to hide and smother just makes it more and more apparent. It’s it’s own Streisand effect.

    @80 Oh dear. Someone was so busy feeling clever about changing punctuation marks, they didn’t see how dense they were being.

    JM

    #81 9 months ago
  82. Djoenz

    @JM
    Thats what I like about you. I have always been the observing type on the net and IRL cause actions says a lot. I find myself sometimes having the need to adress ppl that are not always genuine. Like you I respect everyone until I discover they are not sincere.

    No one is perfect and I admit my wrong doings if someone adresses me in a polite way and opens my eyes, but JM there are a lot of stubborn people who will never admit when they are wrong.

    On the other hand sometimes its best not to over analyse people’s comments and just have some humour. Its a waste of energy, a waste of time and especially shameful wasting it on people we dont even know in real life. Have some humour once in a while bro.

    You’re an intelligent and wise individual and God bless you for that, but lighten up bro. People dont like being told to and thats perfectly understandable we arent all trolls or teens on here.

    #82 9 months ago
  83. polygem

    @joe:

    50% wrong quote. the other 50% was aimed at ultragamer and man, that was so deserved…then the staff made him “fuck off” btw.

    i explained myself already. i don’t try to hide anything. no hypocrisy to be found in my post. if you want to discuss, great. i’m always open for that. you don’t want to discuss though. it’s clear to see. every. single. time. i respect everyones opinion and i always have. if people act like dicks i tell them so. no problem if they feel the same about me and then tell me so.

    you repeat your trademark, catchphrase, semi-”intelligent”, arrogant, “educational” baitposts since the 80′s. it’s still kind of working for you sometimes but times have changed. you’re like mickey rourke in the wrestler (without the charme). you need to change or it might be to late :)

    #83 9 months ago
  84. polygem

    but good night jojo. let’s continue another day, ok? see you around – until the ignore button :)

    #84 9 months ago
  85. Joe Musashi

    @82 As there is no evidence of inaction that I am able to offer, you’ll just have to take my word when I tell you how much I observe that goes without remark.

    “It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one’s mouth and remove all doubt”

    A level of discretion and self awareness the more proliferate have yet to grasp. ;)

    @83 I think it’s remarkable how you’re so consistently able to miss the point (and references) whilst exposing ever increasing levels of self delusion. I believe the two may possibly be related behaviours.

    As for your suggestions, I can assure you that I’ll give them the attention they deserve.

    JM

    #85 9 months ago
  86. viralshag

    I really like JM as a commenter… Just thought I’d throw that out there.

    #86 9 months ago
  87. monkeygourmet

    @JM

    Sorry, I call bullshit on a lot of your gushing and self satisfied boasts.

    One minute the careful ‘observer’, the next a denial of certain posters conduct (or refusal to comment on it)…

    One minute calling out others on their in-ability to ‘ignore’, the next pursuing other posters you obviously don’t get on with…

    It would all wash so much better if you had not been previously banned for obnoxious behaviour. A sudden twist of target and suddenly it elevates you? Hmmmm… I don’t think it really works like that…

    It’s hard to bleat about hypocrisy after your colourful past.

    #87 9 months ago
  88. absolutezero

    I love it when JM goes mental.

    Really its fucking amazing.

    #88 9 months ago
  89. Joe Musashi

    What a colourful imagination some have.

    Does this negate or invalidate the original hypocrisy?

    Of course it doesn’t. It’s just further wasted efforts to deny, deflect and spin.

    JM

    #89 9 months ago
  90. polygem

    @joe:

    http://samvak.tripod.com/narcissismselfhelp.html

    i’m not trying to mock you with this but your posts just scream it. internet is not the best option man. maybe, look elsewhere…i really really don’t post this as your little internet foe now.

    #90 9 months ago
  91. monkeygourmet

    @JM

    I’m saying nothing of the sort.

    I think the phrase I’m after is:

    ‘Pot calling the kettle black’…

    #91 9 months ago
  92. Dragon

    I really like JM as a commenter… Just thought I’d throw that out there.

    I also like people tirelessly defending each other, no matter what.

    Keep it up!

    #92 9 months ago
  93. polygem

    @92: great post dragon!

    :)

    you obviously do what you like then. that’s a good thing.

    #93 9 months ago
  94. Dragon

    ^great stealth edit.

    You should just read your #90 comment.

    #94 9 months ago
  95. monkeygourmet

    @Dragon

    For someone who doesn’t converse with ‘banned’ people you have a lot of interaction with him.

    Get your story straight.

    #95 9 months ago
  96. polygem

    i didn´t stealth edit. i only added:

    “you obviously do what you like then. that’s a good thing.”

    the moment after i posted the initial post. i call that editing.

    #96 9 months ago
  97. polygem

    @94: of course i did read it. if not, i wouldn´t have linked it.
    but nevermind, you´re correct. it´s an irrelevant source, it has no numbers in it, no prove, it´s just a psychological fanboy page.

    #97 9 months ago
  98. polygem

    but now: free kisses for everyone. like it or not.
    ciao ba!

    #98 9 months ago
  99. Joe Musashi

    And, no, none of this invalidates the original hypocrisy.

    JM

    #99 9 months ago
  100. polygem

    :)

    #100 9 months ago
  101. monkeygourmet

    @JM

    And none of it explains why your ‘targets’ are so selective.

    #101 9 months ago
  102. polygem

    he loves us. we´re a challenge.

    #102 9 months ago
  103. KineticCalvaria

    @101, don’t argue with a man who signs his comments MG!

    KC

    #103 9 months ago
  104. viralshag

    @Dragon, I wouldn’t say I “tirelessly” defend JM, I barely have any interaction with him… It’s just that in some cases I do agree with the things he says.

    I like you too though Dragon, if you weren’t so favorable to Sony and I wasn’t so favorable to MS we might have had a future. ;)

    #104 9 months ago
  105. Dragon

    @viral,
    You didn’t get the clue? ;)

    I just copied you since I wanted to say the same thing :D

    #105 9 months ago
  106. viralshag

    Oh right! My bad then.

    #106 9 months ago
  107. techiesnetpromo

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    #107 9 months ago
  108. Animeboy413

    Lol

    #108 9 months ago
  109. DevilishSix

    Didn’t take long, but Best Buy is directing X1 buyers to contact Microsoft concerning the Green Screen of Death.

    http://www.spawnfirst.com/news/best-buy-directing-green-screen-death-users-microsoft/

    Here is what it looks like on video.

    http://www.dualshockers.com/2013/11/22/heres-the-xbox-ones-green-screen-of-death-caught-on-video/

    I apologize if this has been posted already.

    #109 9 months ago

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