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PS4, Xbox One “too limited” for Oculus Rift, says inventor

Tuesday, 12 November 2013 23:09 GMT By Brenna Hillier

Oculus Rift founder Palmer Luckey believes even the grunt of next-gen consoles is too feeble for virtual reality tech.

Speaking to TechRadar, Luckey said the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One aren’t on the company’s priorities list for a couple of reasons – the first being that the hardware doesn’t keep pace with innovation.

“Consoles are too limited for what we want to do. We’re trying to make the best virtual reality device in the world and we want to continue to innovate and upgrade every year – continue making progress internally – and whenever we make big jumps we want to push that to the public,” he said.

“The problem with consoles in general is that once they come out they’re locked to a certain spec for a long, long time. Look at the PCs that existed eight years ago. There have been so many huge advances since then. Now look at the VR hardware of today. I think the jump we’re going to see in the next four or five years is going to be massive.”

The next problem is that, powerful as they are, the PS4 and Xbox One can’t live up to what VR requires – “rendering at high resolutions at over 60 frames a second in 3D”.

“We’re seeing games that are already saying they’re gonna run in 720p on next gen so they can barely hit 60 in 2D,” Luckey said.

“It’s hard to imagine them running a VR experience that’s on par with PC. And certainly five years from now the experiences and the technology for virtual reality that will be available on PC is going to be be so far beyond anything that a console can provide.

“What we’re most excited about – really the core direction of our company – is trying to make something that works on platforms that are moving quickly and that are continuously getting more powerful, and consoles are not those.”

Thanks, games.on.net.

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29 Comments

  1. Lewis247

    I would absolutely love to see some form of VR for next gen consoles.

    #1 1 year ago
  2. salarta

    Suuuure it is.

    Incidentally, this means I’m not getting an Oculus Rift. I play PC games, but I don’t play only PC games.

    #2 1 year ago
  3. Lloytron

    Google Oculus Rift VR Tenga for what they prefer over Xbox and PS3.

    Warning – don’t. Some things can’t be unseen.

    #3 1 year ago
  4. xFidelCashflow

    i guess that explains why Sony decided to try to invest in its own VR tech instead of just teaming up with Oculus. whether it actually sees the light of day (or doesn’t cost $50,000,000) remains to be seen though, but it makes sense now.

    #4 1 year ago
  5. Erthazus

    ““We’re seeing games that are already saying they’re gonna run in 720p on next gen so they can barely hit 60 in 2D,” Luckey said.”

    Next Gen in a nutshell. 720p image at best.

    I can guarantee you that STEAM Machines will have Oculus Rift Support at LAUNCH.

    And can’t see how Sony’s VR tech will bring 60 frames per second in 3D unless they are going to make games that look like a launch PS3 games. Lol

    #5 1 year ago
  6. Asgaro

    Day one.

    Also,
    PC + Oculus Rift = true next gen.
    PS4 and Xbox One = fake next gen.

    #6 1 year ago
  7. Erthazus

    ^ It’s not fake next gen. It’s just an AMD fad with a clumsy gamepad.

    #7 1 year ago
  8. Fin

    @7

    and shitty sub hd call of halo shitbox makes your eyes bleed

    #8 1 year ago
  9. manamana

    Works best with Steambox! Lol!

    #9 1 year ago
  10. manamana

    No really, it’s a tragedy. In five years this console gen will feel outdated. I will probably invest in a steam machine and I can’t wait to see what they have in store. I can wait with the consoles. Nothing out there that makes me want to grab them anyhow.

    Okulus Rift will be a big thing, imo. I want to be there when it happens. Doesn’t matter if I need a PC, Mac, Steammachine or what ever. I will throw my money at it. Until then I’m backlogging this gen for cheap!

    #10 1 year ago
  11. yeoung

    I very much believe VR to be the next revolutionary step in gaming. Beyond still lie effective BMIs and commercial body integration suits. Though a PS4 will definitely find a way into my home, for MP with friends, PS Plus and various other reasons, I am looking into building a gaming rig for the first time. One that will make my inner geek weep at the very sight of it.

    Honestly I can’t wait for any of it to start.

    #11 1 year ago
  12. DSB

    @10 Careful there, you’re gonna make someone feel insecure ;)

    I think you’re right though. Dunno about the Rift specifically, they’re gonna need a way to stop peoples eyes from hurting and keep their stomaches from churning. And even then I’m not sure it’s a platform seller per se.

    The thing that gets me about this gen is that the PC has never stood stronger compared to the new boxes. The power of an upper mid-range rig is well past that of a new console, and it’s gonna be well past twice that within the next 4 years.

    Add to that the fact that most people are packing SSDs, and you actually have a PC that starts and runs faster than a console ever could, even with sloppy ol’ Windows chugging the resources.

    Microsoft and Sony have really gimped themselves by trying to create a digital platform based on 500GBs worth of HDD space. I really don’t see the logic there.

    None of that is really the challenge though. The price is still high, and people are incredibly fond of their consoles. It’s a culture onto itself, and I don’t think anyone is gonna jump the fence unless there’s a better offer on the other side. That usually means impressive games, and right now we don’t even have Madden, or GTA V for that matter.

    Personally I think consoles are heading in the other direction though, just getting a lot less attractive as a whole. I was looking forward to expanded capabilities, but instead they’re taking steps backwards and removing stuff like media centers, purely so they can charge people for their own monetized services.

    Milk dem cows, yo. I wouldn’t mind seeing a bit of poetic justice in that regard.

    #12 1 year ago
  13. xino

    bloody pc gamers getting jealous…
    please go pump up your £10000 rig with 60gb ram so it can run COD Ghost 2:)

    lol at the Tenga.
    isn’t that guy bored of the moving thing going up n down?

    #13 1 year ago
  14. sebastien rivas

    @5

    I hope so!

    @10
    I don;t like saying this but I truly don’t think ti is going to take 5 years to feel it outdated.

    @11
    Me too ;)

    @12
    Unfortunately yes I agree with you, yet, there is hope to wake up and challenge FOR I WON’T BE MILKED ;)

    #14 1 year ago
  15. Cobra951

    What a great excuse! It’s almost up there with Steve Martin’s “I forgot!” If anyone asks why I didn’t support something, I’ll say the hardware is too feeble for my awesome tech.

    #15 1 year ago
  16. G1GAHURTZ

    X1 couldn’t use this anyway, cos then Kinect couldn’t spy on your face!

    Trololololol

    #16 1 year ago
  17. xxJPRACERxx

    @15 He’s right though. Just read Carmack about how even 60 fps is not enough for VR and it really need 120 fps to feel comfortable. Do you think a PS4/X1 can drive two screens at HD+ resolution at 120 fps each?

    Also, G-Sync form nVidia is a godsend for VR.

    #17 1 year ago
  18. Virginityrocks

    I don’t know what some of you mean by “awesome tech”. The xbox one and PS4 are already out of date. My PC from 3 years ago is already better than this. Honestly. A system that can barely handle 1080p @ 60 fps is a fucking joke.

    #18 1 year ago
  19. junguler

    i don’t have any interest in this virtual reality bullshit. nor in kinect and ps move, just give me the controller and a good game to play and don’t waste my time on these stupid shit.

    #19 1 year ago
  20. archaven

    Quite delighted reading some of the sensible reasons from the users in VG. Unlike some blinded console elitist that consistently throw tantrums on PC gamers whenever an exclusive come to the PC.

    The reason i like PC because it’s an open platform. I can do everything on it, my spreadsheet, my documents/letter and resume, printing stuff, facebooking, twitter, emails, web surfing, participating in forum discussions, music, movies and of course PC gaming. What’s more i can even play PC games with a controller!

    I’m no console hater. In fact if anything, i’ll be forced to get a console just to play the exclusive titles. If not for these corporate giants holding these titles on their consoles, i see that they’ll sell peanuts.

    #20 1 year ago
  21. ctankep

    They’re aiming for 4K display ., 120Hz refresh for consumer product.
    Tegra 5 Kepler [ then 6 w/ Maxwell ] will blow past PS4 GFLOPs an’
    Carmack sees this whereas rest o’ industry is fixated on console specs
    which were either: 2 -years too late / 1 -year too early to make th’ most
    from performance envelope gains in fabrication.

    Throw in OLED screens with negligable refresh then VR becomes
    CPU / GPU -limited with regard to response times ., latency. Palmer an’
    his engineers made sure there was headroom for faster displays using
    a 1000Hz tracker so you don’t want to choke performance at any point.
    SCEE will do their own thing.

    #21 1 year ago
  22. Kreion

    @6

    RIght, let’s end this stupidness now. To you, and all other PC gamers: yes the PC is more powerful, etc,etc, but you are not allowed to used next-gen to describe it. The PC has no generations, it is one continuous, constantly updated, ever improving, device. It only has generations in the sense that games increase depth when new game engines come out. Or when Nvidea or AMD start a new range of cards – but since that’s not referred to as the new gen, you can’t just use the word incorrectly.

    Yes, that’s what irritates me about PC elitists -.-

    Other than that I think the creator is largely correct, if a bit unwilling to try and make it useable by next gen systems.

    #22 1 year ago
  23. Ireland Michael

    Considering this device is going to me a monumental flop once every realises the inconvenience of constant nausea and dizziness isn’t worth the vaguely novel idea of head movement, nothing of value is being lost here.

    #23 1 year ago
  24. Dave Cook

    @23 That’ll only be the case with some though won’t it? Or is it deemed a wide-spread problem?

    It made me sick, but then again I get car sick so that’s no surprise. 3D is the same.

    #24 1 year ago
  25. Ireland Michael

    @24 I’ve yet to see a *single* person demo the device and not feel some sort of problem. Some *while* using it.

    The cause of this sort of thing is complete unavoidable. The human eye simply isn’t designed to function under those sort of circumstances. Dizziness, headaches and nausea will occur in pretty much everyone.

    They constantly talk about how they’re “working to reduce the problem”, but it simply isn’t possible. Replicating vision, especially in an enclosed space, will always cause these issues. It might be more or less prominent in some people, but why would any want to constantly deal with those sort of sensations when they could just sit on the couch?

    The moment reviews go live and everyone start reporting about the frustrating side effects, this thing is dead in the water. I can put my money on that.

    #25 1 year ago
  26. viralshag

    I don’t really see any future in this tech, 3D 2.0.

    Sure the PC gaming scene is more powerful but only a handful of the most dedicated PC gamers will move with the tech every time. When you spend £200-300 on a graphics card alone, you expect that to last you some time.

    #26 1 year ago
  27. DrDamn

    @25
    I’ve had feedback from a fair number of friends who’ve tried it. The experience is very much – wow this is great tech, exciting, but like you said every one of them has also said they had some nausea/dizziness too.

    #27 1 year ago
  28. Ireland Michael

    @27 Don’t get me wrong, I think the tech in itself is a cool (but ultimately novel) idea. The question is… are the side effects worth it!

    I personally don’t think they are.

    #28 1 year ago
  29. DrDamn

    @28
    Yeah I understood what you meant. It doesn’t matter how cool it is – I’d love to try it myself – if it affects the majority of users with sickness problems.

    #29 1 year ago

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    We have ten Wrath of the Gods Founders Packs to giveaway for new RPG Skyforge, worth over $70. All you need to do to win a Wrath of the Gods pack is enter your details in the form below and we’ll pick 10 winners at random on Thursday, March 5, after 3pm GMT. Skyforge is […]

  • PC gaming expected to be worth $35 billion by 2018

    PC gaming is alive and well. In fact, it’s expected to be worth $35 billion by 2018. According to game-business group Open Gaming Alliance, the PC gaming industry is expected to grow beyond its current $26 billion worth and to a massive $35 billion by the year 2018. The information is based on data collected […]

  • Advanced Warfare: new patch adds new weapon, Master Prestige ranks, more

    Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare has received a new patch that gives season pass holders early access to a new weapon and everyone else a myriad of fixes and additions. The patch went live today on Xbox 360 and Xbox One, without any official notes. CharlieIntel reports that among the new additions is the new […]

  • Destiny’s end game and raids explained

    Destiny’s end game can be a bit obtuse to those not used to MMO games. Fear not, we’ve got a few quick tips on how to crack it. Arekkz Gaming has a video for new players of Destiny or those who are looking to brush up on their knowledge of the game. Today’s theme is […]

  • Capcom adds local co-op to Resident Evil: Revelations 2 on PC

    Following fan outrage over lack of local co-op support for the PC version of Resident Evil: Revelations 2, Capcom has now added it. Resident Evil: Revelations 2 now officially supports split-screen local co-op in both campaign and raid mode. The update is currently in beta on Steam, but anyone can opt-in to try it. Capcom […]

  • New Destiny glitch spawns infinite Thralls on Earth

    Destiny’s latest glitch spawns infinite Thralls to help fuel your bounty hunting and loot lust. The glitch is simple to replicate. You’ll need to start The Dark Within mission on Earth, on any difficulty. Then follow the steps in the video below (Via DualShockers) to get to an area out of the map. You’ll then […]

  • Battlefield 4 Winter Patch is here with new game mode, netcode improvements and more

    DICE has released the Winter Patch for Battlefield 4. The patch brings an eSports focus with new game mode Squad Obliteration and plenty more. Battlefield 4 Winter Patch is now live on all platforms. It’s just over 400MB on PC and 1.34GB on consoles. The patch adds new game mode Squad Obliteration and more customisation […]

  • HTC hopes to see Half-Life on VR headset Vive

    Vive manufacturer HTC said that it hopes to see Valve games, including Half-Life, on the virtual reality headset. Speaking to the BBC, HTC chairwoman Cher Wang said that Valve is keen on having its games available on the VR headset. “I think Valve’s best game is Dota, right, and Portal and [Team Fortress] and I […]

  • Make money easily in Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate

    If you’re looking to buy a fell set of armour for your character in Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate but keep falling short on Zenny, this video will show you an easy way to make lots of it. Arekkz Gaming has a very handy tip for all Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate players: how to make Zenny […]

  • This is how you claim free Xbox One games from your Xbox 360

    Microsoft is giving everyone the ability to claim their free Xbox One Games with Gold titles from their Xbox 360 console, even without owning an Xbox One. If you don’t yet own an Xbox One and want to make sure you don’t miss out on all those free Games with Gold games, you’ll be pleased […]

  • Destiny weekly reset for March 3: Heroic and Nightfall detailed

    Bungie has reset the weekly cap of Crucible and Vanguard marks and added new Heroic and Nightfall strikes, now with burn. From now until next Tuesday, the weekly Heroic strike will be The Devil’s Lair with Heroic and Lightswitch modifiers. As for the Nightfall, you’ll be fighting Sepiks Prime with the help of Arc burn. […]

  • Few Mass Effect FemShep cosplays are as elaborate as this one

    The internet is full of Female Commander Shepard cosplay from Mass Effect, but very few are as terrific as this one. Visual artist Freya Willia has spent over two years painstakingly creating the perfect suit of armour and the best weapons to make her cosplay of Female Shepard as authentic as possible, Omni tool and […]

  • Deals with Gold: Assassin’s Creed Unity, Red Dead Redemption and more discounted

    This week’s Deals with Gold titles for Xbox Live subscribers is a good mix of modern games and old favourites. The list of discounted games through this week’s Deals with Gold is live with discounts on Assassin’s Creed Unity, Amazing Spider-Man 2, Red Dead Redemption, Max Payne 3, and more. The deals are live now […]

  • Destiny guide: how to maximise your Grimoire Points

    Destiny players regularly compare the size of their Grimoire Points. Learn how to make yours the biggest. Destiny guide: how to earn Grimoire Points In Destiny, earning most Grimoire cards is just a matter of playing the game, maybe a little more attentively than usual. You’ll either need to complete a certain number of actions […]

  • Shovel Knight: Plague of Shadows will let you play as a baddie

    Shovel Knight owners will benefit from the generosity of Kickstarter backers quite soon. Because Shovel Knight was overfunded during its Kickstarter campaign, developer Yacht Club Games committed to releasing free content updates. The first of these, Plague of Shadows, has now been detailed. The expansion stars baddy Plague Knight, who turns on his former allies, […]

  • GTA controversies, from Hot Coffee to PR manipulation

    GTA has a long history of controversy. The latest Did You Know Gaming tells the full stories behind the sensational headlines. Grand Theft Auto is such a byword for controversy that it’s easy to forget the full context of what actually happened to bring mainstream press, politicians and interest group awareness to the Rockstar series. […]

  • Infamous 2 one of five new PlayStation Now additions for March

    PlayStation Now will expand to the tune of five new games this month. The March PS Now additions are Infamous 2, Twisted Metal, R-Type Dimensions, Alone in the Dark: Inferno and Operation Flashpoint: Red River. PS Now will set you back $20 per month or $45 for a three month subscription. It offers all you […]

  • Final Fantasy 10/10-2 HD Remaster gets PS4 release date

    Final Fantasy 10/10-2 HD Remaster hits PS4 in May. The PS4 release date for Final Fantasy 10/10-2 HD Remaster is May 12 in North America and May 15 in Europe. Gematsu reports a special pre-order bonus calendar with art by Yoshitaka Amano is available through the Square Enix Store and participating retailers. In Europe, pre-ordering […]

  • Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare getting 15 new Prestige levels

    Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare players can now aspire to the ranks of Grand Master Prestige. Advanced Warfare developer Sledgehammer Games will add 15 more Prestige levels to the latest Call of Duty, giving players at max XP a chance to grow even further. According to the Sledgehammer Games blog, when you enter Master level […]

  • Destiny: Crota’s End recreated in Minecraft

    Destiny’s toughest challenge gets even nastier if you throw Creepers into the mix. The ultimate Destiny challenge – for now – is the Crota’s End raid. Taking place in an alternate dimension accessed through the Hellmouth on the Moon, the Raid takes Guardians through a pit of darkness to the resting place of Crota himself. […]

  • Xenoblade Chronicles 3D trailer introduces the Heir to the Monado

    Xenoblade Chronicles 3D protagonist Shulk is the Heir to the Monado, his distinctive red sword. Let this trailer fill you in on what that means. Xenoblade Chronicles 3D releases for New 3DS on April 2 in Europe and April 10 in North America. As well as all the content of the Wii original, it has […]

  • The Elder Scrolls: Total War mod covers Morrowind, Oblivion and more

    The Elder Scrolls: Total War is a terrific mod allowing you get get intimately involved with the history of Bethesda’s detailed fantasy universe. The first release of The Elder Scrolls: Total War dropped on the weekend, giving players their first chance to try out LoRdNazgu1‘s creation. This version runs from 3E 427 to 4E 45, […]

  • Five Nights at Freddy’s 3 out now on Steam

    Five Nights at Freddy’s 3 is out now. Yes, we’re surprised too. You can grab Five Nights at Freddy’s 3 on Steam for $8. Developer Scott Cawthon really doesn’t mess about; the game was only announced in early January. Here’s the blurb: Thirty years after Freddy Fazbear’s Pizza closed it’s doors, the events that took […]

  • EVE Online heister makes off with $13,000 worth of goods

    EVE Online is a hotbed of villainy, espionage and backstabbing, but one intrepid corporate thief has made waves even in this setting. The thing about EVE Online is that it’s a true sandbox: the game’s rules are very loose, and allow players to make careers out of theft, piracy, assassination and espionage in addition to […]

  • Marth Amiibo getting a stock refresh in North America

    Nintendo of America has announced a fresh supply of the difficult to find Marth Amiibo. The Marth Amiibo will be back in stock in the US in late April, the platform holder said on Twitter today. Planning to pick up Code Name: S.T.E.A.M. and don’t have a Marth amiibo? More are headed to stores in […]

  • Skyrim beta update upgrades creation kit file size

    Skyrim has been granted a new beta update – more than three years after launch! – to improve the experience for modders and those who use them. The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim released in November 2011. I think that’s worth noting before we discuss the beta update that dropped today, even as Bethesda is working […]

  • Paradox’s next epic RPG is, uh, Knights of Pen & Paper 2

    Knights of Pen & Paper 2 is very serious business so please enjoy this very serious trailer. “Return to the dicey world of Knights of Pen & Paper for a new turn-based adventure, where players get to take on the role of players, and also of the game’s encounter-designing, rules-laywering GM in a fully customizable […]

  • Amplitude looks amazing in new gameplay trailer, has a team multiplayer mode

    Amplitude may have been delayed but we still get something this March: a fine new gameplay trailer. Amplitude is coming to PlayStation 3 and PS4 sometime in northern summer. It’s a reprisal of Harmonix’s classic rhythm action game, a forerunner to its later efforts with Guitar Hero and Rock Band, and was crowdfunded. Update: Turns […]

  • DayZ creator’s “crazy”, “esoteric” next game developed with Improbable

    DayZ creator Dean “Rocket” Hall has dropped the first vague details of his new game project. “I do not want to make safe games. I do not want to make games the way we have been making them. What if the most experienced video game staff in the world collaborated on the most esoteric and […]

  • Battlefield Hardline will support AMD’s Mantle

    AMD has confirmed what most Battlefield fans thought. Battlefield Hardline will indeed support Mantle. Battlefield Hardline will support Mantle, AMD has confirmed. Some players weren’t sure whether the retail version of the game will support AMD’s API, due to its absence from the recent PC beta. AMD did not say whether the feature will be […]

  • Unreal Engine 4 GDC 2015 sizzle reel shows what the tech can do

    Unreal Engine 4 is a pretty versatile bit of tech, as this new sizzle reel shows. As one of the more ubiquitous engines, Unreal will be on show at GDC this week. Developer Epic produced the following sizzle reel to quickly demonstrate what it can do – cutting edge graphics (there are very few games […]

  • Survarium’s latest patch removes limit on battle ammo, rebalances experience gain

    The latest Survarium patch has readjusted the value of experience and reputation points gained and removed the limit to the maximum amount of ammo you can use in combat. Survarium developer Vostok Games has released patch 0.27a to the public, having recently finished testing it. The patch is a major one and covers changes to […]

  • The Hunt Begins in new Bloodborne TV spot

    Bloodborne is so close you can almost smell its coppery tang on the wind – and also you can watch commercials for it. Bloodborne arrives on PS4 at the end of this month (March 24 North America, March 25 Europe, March 27 UK) so excitement is starting to build. Sony isn’t helping keep us calm […]

  • World of Warcraft: you’ll soon be able to buy game time with gold

    Blizzard will soon allow World of Warcraft players to exchange in-game gold for game time and vice versa. Blizzard has announced a new system that will launch soon for World of Warcraft. The system is called WoW Token. Using this system, players will be able to buy game time using in-game gold. Here’s how it […]

  • 3D Realms’ Bombshell returns with the first gameplay trailer

    Remember 3D Realms’ Bombshell? The isometric ARPG that was announced last year? Well, it’s back, and we get to see gameplay footage. The game stars Shelly “Bombshell” Harrison, a bomb technician turned mercenary with a mechanical arm. She will embark on a quest to rescue the president and save Earth, all while shooting aliens. The […]

  • Unreal Engine 4 is now free for everyone to use

    Epic Games has made Unreal Engine 4 available for anyone to download and use, for free. Unreal Engine 4 is now free. Anyone can download it and start using it, the developer announced today in a blog post. The download features the the full set of tools used by Epic, and includes 100% of the […]

  • Call of Duty European Championship winner announced

    The winner of the European round of the Call of Duty Championship has been announced. This past weekend, 28 teams representing UK, France, Germany, Spain, Italy, Netherlands, Sweden, Finland, the rest of Europe and Middle East attended the final of the European round of the Call of Duty Championship. UK team Epsilon eSports was crowned […]

  • GOG brings back Insomnia sale with discounts up to 90% off

    GOG.com is bringing back its Insomnia sale event with even more games. GOG’s Insomnia sale is back with double the amount of games. This year, there will be two sets of games available at once. The sets are seasoned classics and fresh new titles. Each set will feature games with discounts up to 90% off, […]

  • 2K is shutting down NBA 2K14 online servers, won’t affect career save files

    2K will be shutting down the servers for NBA 2K14 this month. The publisher revealed yesterday that online servers for NBA 2K14 will be turned offline on March 31. “You will no longer be able to play ranked games/online association,” reads the announcement. NBA 2K14 relied on online servers to store save files for MyCareer […]

  • One Dead or Alive tournament organiser is proposing ban of “over-sexualised” costumes

    A Dead or Alive tournament organiser has suggested a soft ban on some of the game’s “over-sexualised” costumes, and not everyone is happy. Tournament organiser “The HuBBs” took to the FreeStepDodge forums to suggest a list of rules that other offline tournaments can follow. The list goes over stages, characters, moves, which is certainly in […]