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Killzone: Shadow Fall Remote Play feature shown through video

Thursday, 7th November 2013 19:35 GMT By Stephany Nunneley

Killzone: Shadow Fall features Remote Play through PlayStation Vita, and you can see it being demoed off-screen by Guerrilla Games boss Hermen Hulst in the video below. The video was filmed by director Steven ter Heide. The game launches alongside PS4 this month.

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  1. Legendaryboss

    Meh! Overrated feature.

    #1 9 months ago
  2. Djoenz

    @1
    Is remote replay already implemented on WiiU? or anywhere else?
    if not how can be such thing overrated?

    If it is then I guess you dont like it? I have no interest in it myself but a lot of ppl that have pspVita really seems to like this feature.

    Next time please add IMO dear mr. LengendaryBooBoo :)

    #2 9 months ago
  3. Legendaryboss

    @2
    I meant its being hyped up as reason to get a PS Vita, the features are being overrated by many and there are many potential reasons for why i do not want it to succeed.

    BooBoo to you too. IMO is obvious.

    #3 9 months ago
  4. bobnice

    So it was confirmed by Sonys Q&A that in order to use remote play, you have to be within range of your router…in other words this isnt what most of thought it would be. You cant go on the subway and play your ps4 ganes on your vita. You cant leave your house (router range). So this begs the question….why the hell woukd I want to play my next gen ps4 games on my smallscreen vita when I can play them on my big screen, couch, and dualshock4??

    #4 9 months ago
  5. Djoenz

    BooBoo what if your girl wants to watch that awful soapshow or twilight movie and you just want to continue playing some game with addictive MP?

    Or you want to eyegasm on MGS’s character Quiet without your girl noticing/finding out?

    #5 9 months ago
  6. Phoenixblight

    @4

    Hahah! You thought it was going to go across the net?!

    “.why the hell woukd I want to play my next gen ps4 games on my smallscreen vita when I can play them on my big screen, couch, and dualshock4??”

    Not for you maybe? I have a wife and 2 children. I don’t get to have the TV at all times of the day.

    #6 9 months ago
  7. truth

    ^^^ ignore the hater. Just cause kinect commands don’t understand nonsense his harping on about something he doesn’t understand. His only concern is putting others down. If remote play is your thing great if not move on. Don’t go around complaining and trying to make others feel small.

    #7 9 months ago
  8. Erthazus

    This feature is meh… So is Nvidia shield remote play or WiiU. The tech is not there to do it right IMO.

    #8 9 months ago
  9. TrickyAudio

    Not overrated when someones using the main TV downstairs and I want to play the PS4. Its an ideal solution.

    Alright, many probably aren’t gunna buy a Vita just for it, but for us current Vita owners this is a great feature.

    #9 9 months ago
  10. Djoenz

    @8
    Thank you Erthazus :)
    You might be right.

    #10 9 months ago
  11. FeaturePreacher

    @4
    I would say wait until users get it in their hands before you say it can’t be used outside your house.

    #11 9 months ago
  12. Djoenz

    @11
    The only way to. do that is through Gaikai and honestly we dont know when it launches or that it will be free or behind paywall OR seperate sub arghhhh! !

    #12 9 months ago
  13. Zeronohero

    My girl always takes over the tv. Until ps vita tv comes to the states, this will have to do.

    #13 9 months ago
  14. bobnice

    @6 No I didnt think so, but the people I talked to about games thought it would. Even the people who asked sony the question in the Q/A though it would. Nice try smart ass. But to those with 1 tv in the entire house, I apologize. But my wife and kids do not affect my game time opportunities…I have a TV downstairs in my mancave were I am not bothered by soap operas or the disney channel or whiney vampire movies

    #14 9 months ago
  15. lexph3re

    I want use it badly

    #15 9 months ago
  16. Phoenixblight

    @14

    Sony had said it close to the reveal that remote wouldn’t work across the net that it would be something closer to Nvidia Shield or Wii U. Sorry that interviewers and the like don’t do their own research.

    #16 9 months ago
  17. fearmonkey

    This might not impact the naysayers, but for some people this is AWESOME feature.

    I have a friend with a 3 story house and his gaming systems are in the basement. They can play their PS4 games on Vita anywhere in the house, and thats a nice feature.

    I’ll be getting a Vita eventually, but its not a feature that will heavily impact me yet. I game on a computer monitor mostly and dont fight for the TV.

    #17 9 months ago
  18. MrBambinoDent

    For someone to say I don’t want to succeed!!!! I really can’t get that kind of thinking! Why the fu** you want it not to succeed??

    #18 9 months ago
  19. polygem

    remote play/ off tv play is great. since wiiu i don’t want to go back. ps4/vita combo is nothing you HAVE to use, it’s totally optional. if you have to share the tv it can come in pretty handy. i personally really enjoy gaming on handhelds anyway. to me this is something to look forward to.

    #19 9 months ago
  20. Legendaryboss

    @18
    Fine, if successful the following things could happen:
    A. Publishers get lazy to not bother making games suggesting remote play as an alternative.
    B. Sony does the above.
    C. PS Vita is not an accessory/ultimate partner/companion device to PS4 even if Sony said so.
    D. Software starts to fade.
    E. No one invests in original PS Vita games and instead remote plays every PS4 title.
    F. Exclusives starts to vanish.

    I could name more but no.

    #20 9 months ago
  21. Phoenixblight

    @20

    Thats quite extreme and its not like Vita has had much steam in the past year. Its been sent to die this brings some life to it.

    #21 9 months ago
  22. Legendaryboss

    @21
    Perhaps but it is plausible.

    #22 9 months ago
  23. MrBambinoDent

    Well now I can see some logic in your argument lol first you said it like you just hate it for no reason not because you care about the Vita supply of games. Still I think it might go the other way, Remote play might help move more Vita units, developers see some potential In Vita as a platform, more games to come :)

    #23 9 months ago
  24. Phoenixblight

    @22

    As I said Vita has had nothing since release so SOny fucked up and because of that developers won’t bother with it because it won’t warrant them enough revenue to make a game for it. This feature brings life to it for those that own it or for someone like me that would like a device like this to play when I don’t have access to the TV. Sony has to push their device otherwise its a 200+ streaming device just like the shield.

    #24 9 months ago
  25. FeaturePreacher

    @12
    That’s probably incorrect given the ps3 can do it. Guess I’ll find out when I actually get my ps4 on the 15th and connect it with my vita.

    #25 9 months ago
  26. MrBambinoDent

    Just one more thing, Remote play will work over the internet! You just need a decent stable internet connection and it should work.

    #26 9 months ago
  27. FeaturePreacher

    @13
    vita tv is released on 11/14 in Japan. Why not get it from play-asia? With shipping included it should cost around $130.

    #27 9 months ago
  28. Djoenz

    @25
    You can remote play with vita on ps3 OUTDOORS? How?

    #28 9 months ago
  29. lexph3re

    I don’t think that Vita has had nothing argument is valid still. I have as follows:

    Shinobido 2
    Unit 13
    Mortal Kombat
    New Little King Story
    Ninja Gaiden 2
    Ninja Gaiden 1
    Rayman Origins
    Lego Batman 2
    Gravity Rush
    Ragnarok Odyssey
    Soul Sacrifice
    Uncharted Golden Abyss
    Orgarythm
    Gucamelee
    Playstation All Stars
    Silent Hill book of Memories
    Kickbeats
    Assassins Creed Liberation
    Star Dust Delta
    U. MVC3
    Dynasty Warriors Next
    Killzone Mercenaries
    Resistance BS
    Metal Gear HD collection
    Muramasa Rebirth
    Disgaea 3
    Blazeblue CS
    Escape Plan
    Sound Shapes

    On Pre-order I still have
    Batman Arkam Origins
    Ys Cellestia

    I am also inclined to buy:
    Valhalla Knights 3
    Army corp of hell
    and more I just don’t feel like naming.

    The device has had great support this last year. And, I’m sure it will continue later. With Borderlands 2, Gravity Rush 2, Battle of Z, Dynasty Warriors and more coming out.

    Vita has been being treated great by developers it’s the consumer whose being a dick to the device.

    #29 9 months ago
  30. FeaturePreacher

    @28
    On the ps3 go to settings > remote play settings > remote start and set it to on. Once you press x, check the box to enable remote start via the internet, select yes, then select ok.

    #30 9 months ago
  31. FeaturePreacher

    @29 You forgot Murasaki Baby next year and Teraway on Nov 22.

    #31 9 months ago
  32. Phoenixblight

    @29

    A Large majority of those games have been remade for the PS3 not to mention others are on other platforms.

    @31

    Murasaki Baby will be on the PS4

    #32 9 months ago
  33. lexph3re

    Who cares? Do you say because Elder Scrolls is made on 360 no point in buying it on Ps3? Or since PC has Mass Effect don’t buy it anywhere else? I bought FF7 and Metal Gear Solid on PS1 should I have never of bought it again on Ps3/psp/pc/vita?

    That whole it’s on another console aguement makes ZERO sense

    #33 9 months ago
  34. Djoenz

    @30
    Also ps3 games that are not on PsVita? I did not know that and outdoors? wow.

    #34 9 months ago
  35. Phoenixblight

    @33

    Uh yes. I don’t buy the same game twice within the same generation. I don’t have vasts amount of income to be throwing money at the same game just because its on another platform. I buy a console because of exclusives. The vita lacks in that department and the exclusives that they do have don’t interest me.

    Only game I have on multiple systems is Mass Effect and Dragon Age and that is because I got it for free.

    #35 9 months ago
  36. lexph3re

    It’s not in the same generation though. PSvita is a generation ahead of PS3 it’s even moving into next gen with PS4. Also, I don’t have “vasts amount of income either” but I was sure able to get 2 games on my list that were on ps3 as well (UMVC3 and MK) with the rest all being unique to the console with new and or expanded content from their counter parts

    #36 9 months ago
  37. Phoenixblight

    @36

    Its the same generation especially since they port the games to the Ps3 so I don’t need to get a vita.

    What I am saying in generation as in time not technology or series. Vita came out over a year ago so it came out during the PS3 gen which I have played all the PSV ports that are on PS3. By every PSV exclusive games that SOny devs have made most of them have been kicked over the PS3 so I don’t see a point. PSP had more interesting titles.

    #37 9 months ago
  38. lexph3re

    I was making literally a fraction of what I make now and still was able to buy all of the games above with a wife and child

    #38 9 months ago
  39. Phoenixblight

    @38

    So? income is relative.

    #39 9 months ago
  40. lexph3re

    So you are telling me you played Unit 13, Ragnarok Odyssey, Gravity Rush, Uncharted Golden Abyss, Shinobido 2, Killzone Mercenaries, Resistance Burning Skies, Star Dust Delta, Wipeout 2045, Assassins Creed Liberation, New Little King Story, OrgaRythm, Army Corp Of Hell, Valhalla Knights 3, Soul Sacrifice, Dynasty Warriors Next, Silent Hill Book of Memories, Muramasa Rebirth.

    Oh yeah… your not telling me that. You are telling me that you don’t have a vita nor played any of it’s exclusives or it’s “ports” this gen and last at all. But, I guess that list of Exclusives I labeled are just not at all exclusive. They are just dwaddling games on a device that is poorly supported.

    #40 9 months ago
  41. Phoenixblight

    @40

    I have played all the ports and I plan on getting or playing Liberation HD.

    I have watched a Lets Play of Silent Hill BoM while new way of playing Silent Hill it wasn’t interesting and as far the other titles go, I don’t care for those titles. Trust me I have done my research.

    #41 9 months ago
  42. lexph3re

    Only towards your statement of income being a reason not to buy something. I have seen people with no jobs buy games over and over again whenever they wanted. And, granted if you like a game and with to pocket the experience of migrate it to another platform you would simply do it.

    #42 9 months ago
  43. lexph3re

    Doing research is not the same as actually playing it. I have watched so many games that look great that turned out boring as hell (Gears of War being one of my biggest ones) and I have played games that looked boring as hell and turned out great. You haven’t done your research until you actually had hands on with something. Especially more then half the games I listed

    #43 9 months ago
  44. Phoenixblight

    @42 and 43

    I am sorry I have a job that requires 60-80 hours a week, 2 kids and a wife. THe time I do have to play games I want to spend it on things I enjoy and Vita is not one of them with their title and no matter how much you beat your chest on how awesome the VIta is it doesn’t interest me at this moment. The only thing it has right now is the ability to stream games from the PS4.

    And my research is based on reviews and videos of games that is far more informed than tossing money at games willey nilley because not playing =/= researching in your bizarro world. You won’t be changing my opinion. I know more about my life and I know what interests me and what doesn’t and the fact that my life is based on making games I have a better insight on how games will play just on videos. Hey but keep banging on how awesome the vita is.

    #44 9 months ago
  45. lexph3re

    Umm again, I have a wife and 2 kids and job that requires around 80-100 hours a week and still can do what ever I like. Also, It’s not an argument of how awesome the Vita is but how your claim of it not being supported is silly and only works in your world. Also, you saying going by reviews and not throwing money at things. When did I say I threw money at things? Never once. In fact, 90% of the games I got on that list I got on sales or price drops.

    So don’t act like you know my “bizarre world” And also don’t act high and mighty like the only thing that count’s is the opinions of a lets play and a few website reviews that can’t even agree on the quality on games themselves.

    I understand everyone has their own taste in games. And, that is completely justifiable in any reproach to purchase anything in the hobby. But, keep on acting like watching is the best way to experience playing. That isn’t at all completely opposite of what your hobby actually is.

    #45 9 months ago
  46. Djoenz

    @45
    Wow Lex you really sound a bit ignorant tbh….sorry for butting in but damn I have to agree with Phoenix.

    You slur with arguments which are pretty private. Able to buy, afford or preferances of other ppl are none of your business.

    You telling me you never watch gameplay videos or check out reviews before purchasing a game?

    For me personally I cant afford to spend money on useless games. I have to research beforehand. I dont like trading it in and get another game etc..

    I see you just check out the discount bin for some goodies. Well newsflash not everyone wants to fork up monay for a handheld never mind the games for it.

    #46 9 months ago
  47. Phoenixblight

    @45

    THat is your opinion but not mine. The fact that sony ports every game that goes on the Vita shows in itself that they know its not bringing the revenue they want. If it was fine with the support it has they wouldn’t bother having it being ported.

    “Never once. In fact, 90% of the games I got on that list I got on sales or price drops.”

    That’s throwing money just less of it :P

    My time is precious so the games I want I have to be damn sure I want to play them and I don’t put money into games I am “meh” about(unless they are a fiver) and I definitely don’t throw money at things if I don’t see reviews and videos on such. That’s how it works in my house. Money is not something I just throw out on a whim especially not in this economy and especially not in the game industry when your ass can be out on the street because it doesn’t do well.

    #47 9 months ago
  48. Djoenz

    @47
    AMEN brother haha!

    #48 9 months ago
  49. FeaturePreacher

    @32
    Murasaki Baby is a vita exclusive.

    http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-08-24-the-human-touch-the-brilliance-of-murasaki-baby

    #49 9 months ago
  50. Phoenixblight

    @49

    Huh when I saw it at the PS4 reveal I thought it was for PSV and PS4. I bet it will be coming to PS4. It happens if it is successful enough on the Vita.

    #50 9 months ago
  51. lexph3re

    I’m ignorant for playing things that interest me at an affordable price? Yeah that makes since, also I didn’t pry into the mans financial standings he mentioned it himself so again how does that make me ignorant?

    Also, how many game have you played that reviews have completely shitted on they still turned out to be great? I have had plenty of those already.

    If you were also following the convo between us you’d know it sparked off him saying Vita didn’t have any support or games as a fact when it’s really just his opinion of what he thinks isn’t appealing. I actually tried things and enjoyed it after watching initial videos but all he’s done is watch let’s plays and read reviews but still I’m ignorant?

    That makes perfect sense good job guys

    #51 9 months ago
  52. Phoenixblight

    “saying Vita didn’t have any support ”

    Sorry it doesn’t have as many developers developing for it as much as PSP and DS did. Sorry that my opinion offends you.

    #52 9 months ago
  53. lexph3re

    Don’t think your opinion I that valuable to offend me. I was merely having friendly debate to a opinion that was pawned off as fact. Also, comparing a console out the gate to 2 well established an dead consoles also doesn’t make any sense.

    #53 9 months ago
  54. Phoenixblight

    Uh huh, its a handheld. The cost of developing a game for a handheld is minimal compared to a console or PC. DS and PSP had far more titles released at launch than Vita. 3ds had the same problem the first year than suddenly after a price drop a lot more games came for it. There are at least 6 titles I would like to play on the 3ds where on the PSV there are two(Murasaki Baby and Tearaway).

    Mobile games can be made for 50k and pushed for released in 6 months. A handheld game should be a year at most for development for known studios.

    #54 9 months ago
  55. lexph3re

    These are different times then psp and ds though. Ps vita also has completely different processing power then the ds an psp combined. Also, being under the assumption of how much a proper game should take or cost is pretty laughable. It should take them however long they want and or need it to take. The biggest issue right now is localization and install base. Because there are tons of games on vita in japan that still haven’t made it here.

    #55 9 months ago
  56. Phoenixblight

    “It should take them however long they want and or need it to take”

    Maybe in your world but that is not the real world. It comes down to cost of the game to make and how many they expect to sell. Its a business not a charity.

    #56 9 months ago
  57. lexph3re

    That not just in my world that’s also business. Why do you think they aren’t jumping to announce games they don’t intend to release within a certain windows. And how long an unannounced game takes is still something you don’t know till announcement. tear away is a prime example it’s been in development for about a year prior to its announcement and is still in development almost a year later. So a handheld doesn’t HAVE to be rushe or take some methodical one year to make

    #57 9 months ago
  58. Phoenixblight

    @57

    Of course its relative but at the end of the day they have to make money so you can’t just make a game until you feel its ready. They have studio bills, people and publishers to pay. Every day that passes and the game is not out that is more items they have to sell to keep the machine running.

    #58 9 months ago
  59. wildBoar

    Making a fully 3d game for a handheld these days is just the same as making a full console game for the PS2 or PS3.

    There’s not much difference aside from performance and texture quality.
    Claiming it’s supposedly cheaper is naive, a mobile game sure. A game like Tearaway or Souls Sacrifice? No, it’s just about as much work as a console game and as expensive.

    #59 9 months ago
  60. lexph3re

    Which brings us full circle back to why features such as remote play, ports, x buys, indies are all fully marketable approaches to selling their device.

    #60 9 months ago
  61. Phoenixblight

    @59

    No it really isn’t. SOul Sacrifice and Tearaway do not cost 30-50 million if they did they are absolute morons to throw that kind of cash for a device that has extremely low install base. I work with 3D and I can guarantee you we have yet to put a million into a single game even with all the licensing and middle ware.

    @60

    I never said otherwise in fact I did say streaming is a perk to bringing some life into the Vita.

    #61 9 months ago
  62. wildBoar

    @61 because all console games cost 30-50 million?

    You’re stuck thinking about scope I think. But I’d say it’s obvious both of these titles have cost millions, how much I cannot say, but thinking otherwise is once again a bit naive.

    We’re not seeing much but AAA explosion simulations on console right now I know, but Vita is just as much a console as PS2 or PS3 are, they’re about equal in power as well, and making games is largely the same.

    I suppose it’s about how you define “console” and “portable” games. If you’re thinking BF4 vs. Angry birds then yes. But there are no real boundaries like that. It’s mostly just dependent on ambition.

    #62 9 months ago
  63. lexph3re

    Not sure you can assume how much soul sacrifice cost to make. 100 million yen to make, that’s a million in US dollars. I’m pretty sure soul sacrifice cost more to make then dragons crown

    #63 9 months ago
  64. Phoenixblight

    @62

    Its all there in black in white in the game dev survey. The average and median cost of making a console game is 20 million. Show me a 20 million dollar hand held game. I bet it spits rainbows out of its ass.

    http://n4g.com/user/blogpost/ranma1/520744

    Developing for PSV should be closer to what a PS2 cost to make which was 1-5 million on average.

    “Michael Denny has said that development costs of a Vita game is closer to a PSP game. I wouldn’t say it’s the same costs as a PS3 game but when you compare to what our teams spent on Blu-ray based PS3 games it’s much, much less.”

    http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2011-07-08-sonys-shuhei-yoshida-interview

    #64 9 months ago
  65. wildBoar

    @64 yes, the toxic trends of this gen has been spectacle, and impressive set pieces making games stupidly expensive.

    That doesn’t mean there’s a standard of what a game needs to cost to qualify as a “console” game. Like I said, the Vita is very much a console, more so than a mobile device. Soul Sacrifice or KZ mercenary could’ve easily been console games, that’s the whole point of the Vita. Ofc traditional game prices are going to keep skyrocketing, it seems like they’ll do that until the market crashes.

    And putting less money into portable titles is a business decision more than it is some kind of limitation which is what you were arguing.
    That it’s somehow cheaper, I’ve agreed it’s slightly cheaper, but not by much. The rest is simply choice on the developers behalf.

    Rockstar could keep nerfing GTA beyond recognition like they did to get it running on PS3 to get it on Vita, and it’d be a 300M Vita game.
    Making a 3D game these days is expensive period.

    That companies choose to put less money into portable titles is only plain sense considering the install bases and the smaller screens, doesn’t mean it’s cheaper to develop for, it’s only slightly, like I’ve said.

    #65 9 months ago
  66. wildBoar

    People make smaller less graphically impressive games for the Vita, which is cheaper, the article you just linked seem to corroborate that.

    You could do the same on PS3, and you could make a stupidly expensive game on Vita. There’s less room, sure, but we’ve been compressing and downgrading assets for years on current gen now, and it would be the exact same with Vita as well.

    Most importantly, if it’s not economical, people won’t do it.

    But the work itself, is much, much the same as with a console game. It’s simply the amount of work that differs, but if you made the same game on Vita as you did on PS3 it wouldn’t somehow be cheaper on either, and that’s what I was arguing.

    It’s that people make cheaper games on Vita -/- not that it is cheaper to make games on Vita, necessarily.

    Thanx for entertaining me with the usual psuedo-science of VG I guess. Not gonna bother further tho, Kthanxbai.

    #66 9 months ago
  67. Phoenixblight

    @65

    You are dancing around the subject. As I have pointed out with articles the Vita is no where near the cost of a Ps3 game on average. Its a fraction of the cost. That is my point.

    “That it’s somehow cheaper, I’ve agreed it’s slightly cheaper, but not by much. The rest is simply choice on the developers behalf.”

    There is no 20 million dollar Vita game.

    http://www.assemblergames.com/forums/showthread.php?6664-NDS-vs-PSP-(development-costs)

    Average cost of developing a PSP game was 1 million dollars which SOny CEO said that Ps V development is closer to developing for a VIta than a PS3.

    1 million is average for a PSP and 20 million is average for PS3. Its right there from the horses mouth.

    “Vita is very much a console”

    Never said otherwise.

    “But the work itself, is much, much the same as with a console game. It’s simply the amount of work that differs, but if you made the same game on Vita as you did on PS3 it wouldn’t somehow be cheaper on either, and that’s what I was arguing.”

    Wrong so much wrong. What it take for me to a do a 3d model for animation and rigging in a console game takes 2-4 weeks depending on the how in depth the character needs to be. For a hand held game I can knock it out in a week or less because less data is needed and we have to be far more efficient because of the limitations of the hardware.

    Also very typical bounce out when you know you have nothing to prove what I claim otherwise.

    #67 9 months ago

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