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Thief reboot will overcome “fan resistance” at launch, a confident Eidos states

Friday, 11 October 2013 11:24 GMT By Dave Cook

Thief producer Joe Khoury has predicted that “fan resistance” will be overcome once Eidos Montreal launches the game launches in February. It comes as games still hold reservations about the reboot living up to its predecessors. That, and some folk still don’t like new Garrett.

Our very own contributor Stace Harman played the game recently and he too had reservations. Find out why here.

Speaking with OXM, Khoury explained, “I think hopefully, our greatest sense of satisfaction will be when the game’s released and that’s where we’ll overcome fan resistance. I think there are a lot of optimistically curious people just as there are some fans who don’t know the full extent of what we’re doing, so for sure they’re basing their impressions on the little information that they have, and that’s concerning for them.

“We haven’t shown everything we have in our pockets yet. And I think when the game hits the street is when there concerns will be met. We’re looking forward to that day. Right now the team’s working so hard to bring the game to where it is, taking into consideration everything that everybody’s saying.”

On the negative reaction seen so far, Khoury continued, “When I read a lot of the comments I can see where they’re coming from, and I can guarantee that part of that is just ‘wait and see, judge for yourself.’ Hopefully it’ll be good. We’re fairly confident, but then art is very delicate to judge – it’s an opinion.

“There’s a lot of people that remember things differently for the first Thief, and what they like about the first Thief games. And hopefully 15 years from now people will be talking about what they remember about this Thief, in comparison to the first Thief! We’re reading what they’re saying with a lot of care. And what we reveal in the next few months will hopefully cater to some of the questions that they have.”

You can watch some Thief gameplay in this new trailer and judge for yourself.

What do you think?

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17 Comments

  1. TheWulf

    It’s interesting to see them harping on the same things that some of the more die-hard fans of this reboot have said. That there isn’t much information, despite them having done a large lore dump not so long ago.

    This is just politics. I’m not impressed, honestly.

    Well, I suppose we’ll see who’s right come release. In the interim, TheDarkMod has hit its 2.0 release and now exists in its standalone state, and is likely better than any official Thief game will probably be, now.

    Check it out, if you want.

    #1 1 year ago
  2. YoungZer0

    @1: Looks outdated.

    #2 1 year ago
  3. Hcw87

    The problem with expectations these days is that people expect a sequel for a game released in the 90′s/early 2000 to play and look EXACTLY the same as it did back then. This is where people have seriously flawed expectations, since gaming have moved on from the simple gameplay mechanics from the past.

    Change the look of a character for example, and you will have major uproar. Change the voice of someone, same thing happens.

    Fact is, no sequel for a beloved game released 10 years ago will NEVER ever surpass it, simply because nostalgia.

    #3 1 year ago
  4. DrDamn

    @1
    “It’s interesting to see them harping on the same things…”

    Oh the irony.

    @3
    +1

    #4 1 year ago
  5. absolutezero

    “since gaming have moved on from the simple gameplay mechanics from the past.”

    In most cases its the exact opposite though. They simplify everything to such a degree as to make any connection to the original series superfluous.

    In defense of The Dark Mod it also has a map editor, which is being used to create just as crazily complex maps as the original Thief.

    I’m guessing alot of people never played the original Thief, which is perfectly fine its a pretty niche title at the best of times.

    #5 1 year ago
  6. Hcw87

    @5
    Sure. But in some cases the simplifications is actually a plus (regenerating health for example). Not all games work well without it. Running around in Call of Duty/Battlefield picking up healthpacks would completely destroy the flow of battle.

    #6 1 year ago
  7. absolutezero

    This is all “Opinions” but Regenerating Health has never lead to a game being better than if it used health packs instead.

    Same for the draining of colour for damage. Same for the bloody screen.

    Regen health in particular has a serious effect on the way that encounters are presented and fights play out. In a game where you can just run off and recover with no penalty how do you make the player feel threatened by anything? Why you ramp up the amount of spam damage and hitscan weapons. Grey screen and you dive into cover, which kills the pacing as you crouch behind a box waiting for colour to return.

    Battlefield does have med-packs, in the distant past of every Battlefield game before 3 there were specific Medic classes.

    #7 1 year ago
  8. Luciferous

    @7 Exactly this

    Look at the encounters in The Last of Us.

    Combat in that game was incredibly deliberate because not only did not have health regen you also didn’t have a lot of resources or ammo. Every mistake that cost you some health hurt, every bullet fired was a gamble.

    If it used regenerating health the game would have been terrible.

    Games like CoD and Battlefield would be completely different if they followed the same methods… you would have pitched fire fights that ebbed and flowed as people got injured and had to be pulled back to be healed by medics before heading back in… I’d probably play those games more if they were like that.

    #8 1 year ago
  9. absolutezero

    “With the next-gen, with the smartphone, with the tablet, with the indie developer, it’s really, really cool because now we have a lot of different types of players. There is a type of people that like to have that kind of indicator, because… they don’t want to fight with all these mechanics. They enjoy the story, they want to progress, they want to feel that they are good, but at the same time they like to, you know, ‘let me help you a little bit’.”

    I’m done. I’m Out.

    I’m so fucking done.

    #9 1 year ago
  10. Ireland Michael

    @9 Nice knowing you.

    Change is fine. New audience aren’t fine. Less cumbersome mechanics and streamlined interfaces are fine. Mobile gaming is fine.

    Half the time, if you want more of a challenge, all you have to do is increase the difficulty or change the options.

    #10 1 year ago
  11. absolutezero

    Tough all they changed in the new Thief difficulty selections is lowered HP.

    The mechanics/interface/UI were not cumbersome in the first place, I never had to fight to play Deus Ex or Thief. They are brilliant games, they still are brilliant games. Its not about change its about not understand what made these titles popular and beloved in the first place.

    Why bother “bring the series to a whole new audience” when you have removed everything that made the series special in the first fucking place?

    “We are working very hard to respect these different types of player. Honestly, it’s like, let’s say you are at home, you like to write, and you have a novel in your drawer that you would like to share. I’m pretty sure you don’t write for one guy; you want to make sure a lot of people would see the story. It’s the same thing to us.”

    “We’ve seen players who don’t even bother to read anything they find. We have to make sure the game is fun for them, too.”

    Why? Why should the game be fun for these people? I know it comes down to sales figures and getting a return but fuck. FUCK.

    #11 1 year ago
  12. Mineral4r7s

    @11
    I feel ya.

    #12 1 year ago
  13. Os Money

    “Running around in Call of Duty/Battlefield picking up healthpacks would completely destroy the flow of battle.”

    “Games like CoD and Battlefield would be completely different if they followed the same methods… you would have pitched fire fights that ebbed and flowed as people got injured and had to be pulled back to be healed by medics before heading back in… I’d probably play those games more if they were like that.”

    @6&8

    It’s called hardcore mode, it’s much more enjoyable if you haven’t yet tried it ;)

    #13 1 year ago
  14. mreko3230

    I just don’t think you can win if you’re going to be rebooting an old IP. People either complain that you’re just “re-skinning” the previous games without adding anything new and you’re too afraid to experiment or they think you are ruining memories of the their childhood nostalgia. You really can’t win.

    But hey, what do I know? I actually liked ‘Thief: Deadly Shadows’ and that’s the one everyone hated.

    #14 1 year ago
  15. Pitts

    @14- Deus Ex:HR and X-Com:EU spring to mind. Both developers were pretty clever in how they rebooted things while keeping the fans happy.

    #15 1 year ago
  16. fearmonkey

    I have said it before but I am waiting till I see reviews and play the game for myself. I admit I wasnt happy about the new Emo Garrett look and the voice actor is different. I liked the old Garrett quite a bit, and will miss that.

    However the guy they chose is a good voice actor and I’ll take a wait and see. I loved The original games but if it takes some changes to bring back the series, I will deal with it if the game is good. To me any new thief is good, just like any new Deux Ex is good. I loved Deus EX:HR and so I hope they do the same thing here, wow me when I finally get to play it.

    If they release an average game though…God help them…

    #16 1 year ago
  17. dexfx69

    I liked the previous Garrett, who may have been a theif, but was trying to be ethical in his decisions. In this new game, it seems he’s a sociopath.

    #17 1 year ago

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    Sunset Overdrive is a colourful game which is partly due to its concept art. The concept art featured below is created by Vaughan Ling, one of the concept artsists who worked on Sunset Overdrive. Anyone who’s played the game will immediately recognise the locations, weapons, character designs and general atmosphere of the game through these. […]

  • Get an extended look at the PS4 version of Project CARS

    The PlayStation 4 version of Project CARS has been shown in 1080p 60fps. The video below is captured by racing game enthusiasts Team VVV from a preview build. You can see different racing disciplines being demonstrated here, on different circuits. The game’s impressive visuals get even better when the weather gets worse.

  • Battle Pod is the Star Wars arcade game you’ve waited your whole life for

    Star Wars: Battle Pod is an arcade game that lets you replay the battles of the original trilogy, and features an incredible cockpit. If you’ve never played a game at an arcade before, Star Wars: Battle Pod will definitely be the one to change your mind. It’s an arcade cabinet out of a classic Star […]

  • CoD Exo Zombies: how to unlock the Ride of the Valkyries Easter egg

    To no one’s surprise, Exo Zombies mode in Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare has some Easter eggs. The first Exo Zombies Easter egg, of surely many more to come, has been discovered. It’s a musical one that involves Richard Wagner’s Ride of the Valkyries. How you unlock it is not as convoluted as you might […]

  • Dying Light is sub-1080p on Xbox One, full 1080p on PS4 – report

    Early analysis of Dying Light on PlayStation 4 and Xbox One has revealed a few technical details about both ports. Digital Foundry has produced some analysis of both the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One ports of Dying Light based on some early testing. Both versions manage a solid 30 frames-per-second, only dipping below that in […]

  • Battlefield 4 Second Assault DLC free to all EA Access members

    EA is offering Battlefield 4′s Second Assault expansion free to anyone with an active EA Access subscription. Anyone with an active subscription to EA Access can download the Second Assault expansion pack for Battlefield 4 starting January 29 and through February 28, free of charge. All you need to do is find it on the […]

  • The Witcher 3 is getting optimised, but no visual downgrade

    The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt is in the final stages of development and developer CD Projekt RED is making sure optimisation work doesn’t impact the game’s visuals. The Witcher 3 art producer, Michal Stec, spoke to Eternity in an interview and was asked whether the team will downgrade the visuals to get better performance. “No. […]

  • Can’t download Dying Light on PS4? Here’s a fix

    If you’ve bought Dying Light on PS4 and you’re having trouble downloading it, you’re not alone. Here’s how to beat the bug. Techland’s Dying Light is stumbling out of the blocks a little this week, with many PS4 users experiencing problems with their full-game downloads. A bug’s to blame. Your console thinks you’ve already installed […]

  • What The Witcher 3 owes to Skyrim – and how it surpasses it

    The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt owes more than a nod to Bethesda’s Skyrim. I went to see The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt, and had a great time. I went in a fan of the books but not very experienced with the first two games. I came out with The Witcher 3 top of my gaming […]

  • Dragon’s Dogma Online has great monsters

    Dragon’s Dogma Online looks pretty rad – an undesirable quality in a game unlikely to come west, from our perspective. The first Dragon’s Dogma trailer was released this afternoon; admire its beauty below. The free to play online RPG was announced for PC, PlayStation 3 and PS4 overnight, but Capcom doesn’t intend to bring it […]

  • Xenoblade Chronicles X map about five times the size of last game’s

    Xenoblade Chronicles X is not a small game. This week’s Famitsu has a feature on Xenoblade Chronicles X giving some details on Monolith Soft’s next RPG and first Wii U game. According to Siliconera‘s translation of reports on the feature, the game’s map is about five times the size of that in Xenoblade Chronicles. The […]

  • Take on Mars expected to hit beta in April

    Take on Mars, the space sim from Bohemia Interactive will soon be reader for wider consumption. According to a new Take on Mars development roadmap, the sim will go into beta at the start of April, with full release expected in June. The project is currently available via Steam early Access, but between now and […]

  • Can you guess the next Mortal Kombat X character reveal from this fatality audio clip?

    Mortal Kombat X will have at least one very liquid-sounding fatality. NetherRealm is revealing Mortal Kombat X’s cats one character at a time, and has promised a new reveal during a community Twitch stream tomorrow. It also provided the following teaser video – it’s audio only, and apparently taken from a fatality sequence. What’s your […]

  • Nintendo Creators Program now recruiting YouTubers – PewDiePie, others weigh-in

    Nintendo has opened a Creators Program designed to ensure creators get a slice of ad revenue from videos featuring Nintendo assets, and some prominent YouTubers aren’t pleased with the company. Update “What Nintendo are missing out on completely is the free exposure and publicity that they get from YouTube,” wrote Felix Kjellberg (PewDiePie) on his […]

  • Xbox Live issues under investigation

    Can’t sign into Xbox Live? Microsoft is on the case. Xbox 360 and Xbox One users report being unable to sign in to Xbox Live. Microsoft is already aware of and working on the problem. “Our team is hard at work right now trying to get this resolved. Thank you for staying patient while we […]

  • Make money from your non-Valve mods with Steam Workshop

    Valve has opened the money-making side of Steam Workshop to third-party titles, giving enterprising modders more ways to make money. Steam now hosts curated Workshops for Dungeon Defenders: Eternity and Chivalry: Medieval Warfare, the first non-Valve games to support the scheme. What that means is that community members can create, vote on and eventually even […]

  • Check out DmC: Devil May Cry’s new manual lock-on

    DmC: Devil may Cry developer Ninja Theory has released a video showing off the new, controversial lock-on mode. The new manual lock-on is causing quite a stir, although its reception is probably better than the white-wigged Dante who makes fans even more upset than the original makeover. “The primary purpose of this video is to […]

  • Dragon Quest Heroes looks pretty fun

    Dragon Quest Heroes is yet another Omega Force take on an existing property – like Hyrule Warriors or the One Piece games. And it looks pretty sweet. We haven’t heard much from Dragon Quest Heroes here in the west because it hasn’t been confirmed for release outside Japan. This isn’t terribly surprising as we still […]

  • Square Enix to reveal new PS4 game this weekend

    Square Enix is doing something pretty mysterious right now. The Final Fantasy publisher is teasing something called Project Code Z. The project, which Square Enix is tweeting about in Japanese, English and German, is due for reveal at Tokaigi 2015 on Saturday. It’s a PS4 game, but that’s all we know. There’s a website you […]

  • Tetris has crowned its first known western Grand Master

    Tetris fans have a new western champion. Tetris is one of those gaming obsessions that goes much deeper than you might expect. For example, did you know that some versions of the game assess your performance and over you the chance to become a “grand master”? Turns out that’s a thing, and according to Polygon […]

  • Ken Levine’s next game teased as “sci-fi-ish” small, open-world RPG

    A series of tweets from BioShock creator Ken Levine has shed a sliver of light upon his next project. According to Levine he and his team are considering something a bit sci-fi and contemplating first-person mode. The team is developing the game for PC with a large in scope, expandable, systems-based narrative where more can […]

  • Become a lynx in new Shelter 2 trailer

    Shelter 2 casts players in the role of a lynx, which makes for quite a different experience to the badger of the first game. The first Shelter game had you evading predators, but in the second, you becomes one yourself. That doesn’t mean there are no dangers to face, of course. Judging by the trailer […]

  • Why King of Fighters 13 isn’t coming back to Evo

    Evo, the premiere western fighting game tournament, has dropped support for a few previously favoured titles. King of Fighters 13 had a loyal following, but isn’t featured in the Evo 2015 line-up. “Many things go into what games makes it to Evo, but the most obvious one is, ‘Is the community playing this game?’” Evo […]

  • An average Evolve match takes less than ten minutes

    Evolve players are pretty quick at hunting each other down. Evolve developer Turtle Rock has released an infographic brimming with statistics garnered from its recent beta test. One of the key takeaways is that all three monsters, and all four classes, are working as intended – their performance in game matches Turtle Rock’s designs. If […]

  • Super Mario Amiibo can be pre-ordered on Nintendo UK, Mario and Peach sold out

    The latest set of Amiibo in the Super Mario series is now available for pre-purchase through the Nintendo UK Store. Each of the following sports a red base and will run you £10.99: Bowser, Luigi, Mario, Peach, Toad and Yoshi. It looks like Peach and Mario are both sold out, though. All six can be […]

  • The Music of League of Legends Vol. 1 free to download now

    League of Legends has excellent music, and now you can have it too. The Music of League of Legends Vol. 1 collects 15 tracks from the MOBA’s history, and is available for free. You can grab the music from iTunes, Google Play or via direct download. Tere’s an example track below to get you in […]

  • Super Bowl 49 update arrives on Madden NFL Mobile

    With Super Bowl 49 occurring this coming Sunday, February 1, EA Sports has updated Madden NFL Mobile with new feature enhancements and Super Bowl-themed Live Events. Updates include: League vs League Tournaments Obstacle Course Super Bowl Bonus Players Tom Brady and Richard Sherman Super Bowl Legends Super Bowl Moments Upgraded Auction House The Super Bowl […]

  • See Super Smash Bros.’ unused custom moves

    Super Smash Bros. was originally intended to have 16 custom moves per character. The final version of Super Smash Bros. only features 12 custom moves per fighter, but Nintendo left animations for some of the cut moves in place. A Youtuber called RED has dug these cut mvoes out of the brawler’s code, and displayed […]

  • The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt contains 16 hours of sex scene mo-cap data

    Sex is nothing new to the The Witcher games, and The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt is no exception. In fact, it contains 16 hours of sex scene motion capture data. Giggity. There’s a reason for the bedroom dalliances though, as Geralt is a flesh and blood human, or a modified human at any rate, with […]

  • Here’s the launch trailer for Fahrenheit: Indigo Prophecy Remastered

    A launch trailer for Fahrenheit: Indigo Prophecy Remastered has been released after an Amazon listing was revealed for it over the weekend. Key upgrades include: High-definition Graphics — All of the in-game textures have been meticulously recreated in HD for mobile and desktop. Widescreen Support – A true widescreen (not cropped) view strengthens the game’s […]

  • The open beta for Battlefield Hardline will be dated tomorrow

    The exact dates as well as more information on the Battlefield Hardline open beta will be shared tomorrow. This is according to the latest blog post from developer Visceral Games. “We’ll share the exact dates and info on the Battlefield Hardline open beta tomorrow,” wrote Visceral boss Steve Papoutsis. “Stay tuned, thanks again, and keep […]

  • Upcoming Hearthstone patch to apply balance change to Undertaker

    An upcoming Hearthstone patch will apply a balance change to the Undertaker card, Blizzard has announced. After the release of Goblins vs Gnomes, Blizzard said it kept an “eye on the state of game balance” as more matches were played using the additional cards. Released with The Curse of Naxxramas, Undertaker is considered an overly […]

  • February Games with Gold offers up Brothers: A Tale of Two Sons

    The free games on offer in February via Xbox Live Games with Gold have been announced. Xbox Live Gold members on Xbox One can download #IDARB during February. Xbox 360 users can grab Brothers: A Tale of Two Sons from February 1-15, when it will be replaced by Sniper Elite V2 from February 16 -28. […]

  • Kinguin blames unidentified Russian for deactivated Far Cry 4 keys

    Third-party game key seller Kinguin is issuing refunds to those who found their games deactivated through Ubisoft’s Uplay service. Customers which purchased keys for Assassin’s Creed: Unity, Far Cry 4, The Crew and Watch Dogs are affected. Kinguin said 4,600 customer tickets were submitted over the last 72 hours and 35 out of 3,400 of […]

  • Video Unlimited to be re-branded as PlayStation Video starting in February

    Like Music Unlimited, Sony’s Video Unlimited service is being replaced and re-branded PlayStation Video. PlayStation Video will become part of PlayStation Network to streamline digital services for the over 64 million PSN users. PlayStation Video and PlayStation Music will be added to PSN which is already a destination point for the PlayStation Store, PlayStation Plus, […]

  • Spotify arrives on PlayStation Music this spring, Music Unlimited closing

    Spotify will launch on PlayStation Network this spring as part of a new music destination called PlayStation Music. PlayStation Music is a replacement for Music Unlimited, and those with a PSN account can link to Spotify which can be used just for music, or when playing games on PlayStation 4. Existing playlists from current Spotify […]