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Watch Dogs compares the game’s city to GTA5, says the focus is on density

Friday, 27 September 2013 15:14 GMT By Dave Owen

Watch Dogs is set in a fictional version of Chicago, and creative director Jonathan Morin has compared its scale to that of Grand Theft Auto 5′s Los Santos. It may not be as big in terms of sheer mileage, but Morin promises the world of Watch Dogs will offer “huge density.”

“One thing I wanted to promote with Watch Dogs was density, a lot more than scale,” Morin said in an interview with Eurogamer. “We have a big city but one thing a lot of games aren’t exploring is the shared density of it.

“[In Watch Dogs] you can stand still and profile people for ten minutes – you’re playing without moving, almost. I think that’s even more important to me than just adding size to it. I don’t want size just becoming a space between A and B. We have a huge world but it’s more about the density.”

So the comparison to GTA5 really serves to show the different approach that Watch Dogs is taking. There’ll be no aerial vehicles in the latter, as the world isn’t vast enough to justify them like it is in GTA.

“GTA5 has a huge world but it has flying, it has jets so it serves that purpose,” said Morin. “You don’t have a jet unless you have the space to fly into. Us, we have huge density, so if we double or triple the scale then you’re going to start hitting repetition because we wanted to aim for the density first. We wanted the game to be the right size for that density, so it’s a matter of balancing what you want to achieve.”

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25 Comments

  1. VibraniumSpork

    Interesting. It’s good that Ubi are getting in front of this issue early-on; the next-gen sandbox genre is going to be facing some pretty stiff comparisons to Los Santos.

    #1 1 year ago
  2. viralshag

    This is something I was curious about and raised the question in one of the forums.

    I had a feeling the scale wouldn’t be matched but as long as there’s a lot to see and do that’s fine.

    #2 1 year ago
  3. VibraniumSpork

    @2 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/LOLgirl247/gifs/fistbumppow.gif

    #3 1 year ago
  4. monkeygourmet

    Watchdogs
    AC
    Splinter Cell
    The Division

    Ubisofts games are all becoming exactly the same from a gameplay perspective…

    free running, blending in, chases, cover, style over substance combat…

    Really becoming boring. Even new innovations with tablet intergration are filtering across their product range with gay abandon.

    Great having new IP’s and all that, but if they all play almost identically, it’s kind of missing the point.

    Over saturation, big time.

    #4 1 year ago
  5. daytripper

    I haven’t been impressed with the latest next gen footage, expected a bit more despite a cross gen release

    #5 1 year ago
  6. VibraniumSpork

    @4 I see where you’re coming from but they’ve likely spent millions developing these (in most cases) incredibly smooth and efficient play mechanics. Wouldn’t make sense to leave them languishing in one franchise when they can port them over to help improve others.

    And hey, GTA V’s an amalgam of past GTAs, RDR, LA Noire and Max Payne’s mechanics yet it’s still become more than the sum of its parts.

    #6 1 year ago
  7. Fin

    @4

    Rayman
    The Crew
    Valiant Hearts

    Ubisoft are the best publisher at the moment, by quite a stretch.

    #7 1 year ago
  8. monkeygourmet

    @6

    I know, and this is exactly one of the reasons I have a mild fear of the next gen.

    Hugely expensive games and engines where they have to wring every last drop of fun and creativity out of before it becomes cost effective.

    I mean, AC got boring for me after Brotherhood. I feel physically sick thinking these games are coming out every.fucking.year…

    Now we can add watchdogs to the list…

    I see where your coming from with GTA, and as much as I love 5, the cracks in that are showing too. If that was released yearly, it would get old, very quickly indeed.

    #8 1 year ago
  9. Hcw87

    It can be half the game GTAV is, and even then it will be awesome. GTAV is on a whole other level to every single other game released this generation.

    #9 1 year ago
  10. monkeygourmet

    @7

    The Crew and Valiant Hearts are unproven yet. Look fun, but the ‘meat’ of their releases are the ones I mentioned, and those are indeed almost identical from a gameplay perpsective.

    #10 1 year ago
  11. VibraniumSpork

    @8 No arguments here. AC in particular has *almost* been milked to death, though the AC4 expansion has somehow renewed my interest after the lacklustre Failcannon that was AC3. Could just be smoke and mirrors but from what previews I’ve seen so far it does feel to be trying something new. We’ll see!

    You’ve called it on Watchdogs though. We’ll get more of that game year after year after year…what worries me more about that one is that Aiden Pearce appears to have zero charisma -_-

    #11 1 year ago
  12. monkeygourmet

    Even the thought of squatting on top of a ‘crows nest’ on a pirate ship and seeing the words:

    “Synchronization Complete!” in AC4 : Blackflag

    Actually makes me want to vomit…

    I’ve ‘sync’d’ enough goddamnit!!! Please, have mercy… And that fucking eagle squawk as I plummet into a cleverly placed hay stack on the deck of the ship… Why is there hay on a ship?!

    Have mercy Ubi!!! No more!!!

    Diving off a pirate ship should NEVER be something that makes you feel bored!!! How have you done this to me?!

    And a Shark attack… How can that be boring?! I’ll tell you… Because i’ve just killed about 1 million of the little fuckers in Far Cry 3 and GTA5…

    No more AC PLEASE!!!!

    #12 1 year ago
  13. DrDamn

    @MG
    It’s not like you are being physically forced to play each and every one of them sequentially, back to back, without food and drink, whilst listening to a bagpipe rendition of We Are Sailing is it?

    You can get the GTA effect by just by one of the titles every 4 years and being pleasantly surprised at how much has changed. If they continue to sell to other people who are enjoying them then you reap the benefits of investment without having to pay for each. You also get the benefit of choosing the type of setting you prefer for that type of game, because they are offering you a choice. The glass is half full!

    #13 1 year ago
  14. YoungZer0

    Ah, it has already won me over. Los Santos is a boring city and so far sci-fi Chicago looks like it could make the wrongs of GTA V right.

    #14 1 year ago
  15. VibraniumSpork

    @13 “It’s not like you are being physically forced to play each and every one of them sequentially, back to back, without food and drink, whilst listening to a bagpipe rendition of We Are Sailing is it?” – http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/19550420/images/1340163943195.gif ;D

    #15 1 year ago
  16. Erthazus

    I agree with MONKEY so much that i don’t want to be in this discussion. He says everything what is in my mind. No more shitty adventure games like AC pleace.. Gosh. blergh.

    but I will say that Rayman: Legends was awesome. Everything else is the same piece of shit.

    #16 1 year ago
  17. monkeygourmet

    @13

    People use that arguement all the time:

    “It’s not like you are being physically forced to play… xxx”

    and do you know what I have to say to people who say that?

    Nothing… Because you are right! :)

    Buuuuuuuut… It still doesn’t help the fact that when you look at it, a game like AC hasn’t really changed since Brotherhood… Now, you can always argue; ‘Nintendo or xxx games (edit so not to go off on a Ninty tangent!) don’t change either’, but for a title that has those kinds of legs, it has to have almost perfect gameplay to start with.

    AC for example is worn out now IMO… That game only needed about 3 to run it’s course. Free running has been done to death and the futuristic vibe has become dull as ditchwater.

    The gameplay is still exactly the same broken mess it always was. Slightly fun but ultimatly unsatisfying, especially repeating the same stuff over and over again for 40+ hours…

    I prefered it when a game had a clear gameplay style:

    Stealth
    Racing
    Action
    Platformer
    etc…

    It seems like they are now trying to mash so mnay genres together, they are all coming out dilutted and weak.

    Splinter Cell is now stealth, action, free running…

    AC is stealth, action, free running…

    Rinse and repeat.

    I haven’t even mentioned the generally awful ‘tacked on’ multiplayer…

    I don’t really want any of these games now (apart from Division for the co-op), but AC was once my most anticipated title for next gen. It looked so good and fresh.

    Now it seems it has polluted all their titles, and the games seem to be scoring less and less and becoming more and more panned by critics.

    Everyone CAN play… But not everyone LIKES the same kind of genres or games…

    Stop mashing all the ideas together! :)

    #17 1 year ago
  18. monkeygourmet

    @16

    :D haha!

    btw… Next Rayman is a stealth/action/free running game… o_O

    #18 1 year ago
  19. Pytox

    @17 you also forgot they add uplay to each of their games now for no reason

    #19 1 year ago
  20. Lengendaryboss

    @16/18
    Getting real cosy you two? :D

    #20 1 year ago
  21. yeoung

    Ah, the good ole commercialism v artistic integrity debate. Aye, AC could do with a bit of revisioning. They invested quite a bit in AC3, but most of it was polish, none of it reimagined any core mechanics.

    I remember when AC1 landed it seemed like the answers to my long standing desire for an open world Tenchu-like game, thinking that no amount of slight variations year on year would dampen my excitement for rooftoppy-jumpy-stabby. Sadly though, I don’t think AC has anywhere to go seeing as Watch Dogs took the near-future era, and anything pre-dating it wouldn’t force Ubi to redesign core gameplay.

    That said, I’d buy another AC in a heartbeat if they added 3D maneuver gear, some kind of colonial webslinging, or a full fledged co-op campaign.

    #21 1 year ago
  22. VibraniumSpork

    @21 +1,000,000

    #22 1 year ago
  23. KTF26

    @monkeygourmet
    if Watchdogs, AC, Splinter Cell, The Division are the same
    then all games in the world are similar

    #23 1 year ago
  24. Juice_Man101

    @14 +1

    Imo Los Santos is more boring than Liberty City.

    #24 1 year ago
  25. Vic 2.0

    Sounds like they got the right idea. GTA 5 was mostly boring, exactly because you didn’t quite have enough (fun) stuff to do considering the size of the map.

    Plus, these people made Splinter Cell: Conviction, one of the greatest games of all time. Meanwhile, Rockstar’s been putting out garbage. If Sleeping Dogs is better than GTA 5 (and IMO it is, all things considered), Watch Dogs certainly has a shot!

    #25 1 year ago

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    The final add-on for Sunset Overdrive, Dawn of the Rise of the Fallen Machines, will be released in April. On April 1 to be exact. No, that’s not an April Fool’s joke from Insomniac Games either. Below, you can watch a fist-look at the new story, area, and traversal mechanic.

  • Heroes of the Storm playable at EGX Rezzed

    Heroes of the Storm will be playable at EGX Rezzed. This will be the first UK public hands-on with the online team brawler. Blizzard will also host giveaways and friendly tournaments at its stand. Tickets for all three days of Rezzed are still available, and you can purchase a pass through the official website. EGX […]

  • PES 2015 Data Pack 4 coming next week with Winter Transfers, new faces

    Data Pack 4 for Pro Evolution Soccer 2015 has been dated, and it updates the game with Winter Transfers, new player faces, and additional stadiums. The latest free update contains real-time player transfers made within the January window, and player ratings have also been updated. Additionally, a number of improved likenesses to key players will […]

  • Here’s the changelog for Dragon Age: Inquisition Patch 5

    Notes for upcoming Patch 5 for Dragon Age: Inquisition have been posted, noting improvements to gameplay and stability, and the new features outlined back in early February. Along with the new party storage system added to the Undercroft at Skyhold, players also have the ability to adjust the size of subtitles. Below you will find […]

  • Game of Thrones, Mortal Kombat X, Batman mobile games on the way

    Warner Bros. has announced free-to-play mobile titles spanning its DC Comics, Mortal Kombat and Game of Thrones properties. The following five new games under development are: Mortal Kombat X from NetherRealm Studios: The game blends fighting and card collection with cinematic gameplay and Fatalities. Play as both classic and fighters, and if you own the […]

  • Win! Beta access to new MMORPG Skyforge and DLC worth $70

    We have ten Wrath of the Gods Founders Packs to giveaway for new RPG Skyforge, worth over $70. All you need to do to win a Wrath of the Gods pack is enter your details in the form below and we’ll pick 10 winners at random on Thursday, March 5, after 3pm GMT. Skyforge is […]

  • PC gaming expected to be worth $35 billion by 2018

    PC gaming is alive and well. In fact, it’s expected to be worth $35 billion by 2018. According to game-business group Open Gaming Alliance, the PC gaming industry is expected to grow beyond its current $26 billion worth and to a massive $35 billion by the year 2018. The information is based on data collected […]

  • Advanced Warfare: new patch adds new weapon, Master Prestige ranks, more

    Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare has received a new patch that gives season pass holders early access to a new weapon and everyone else a myriad of fixes and additions. The patch went live today on Xbox 360 and Xbox One, without any official notes. CharlieIntel reports that among the new additions is the new […]

  • Destiny’s end game and raids explained

    Destiny’s end game can be a bit obtuse to those not used to MMO games. Fear not, we’ve got a few quick tips on how to crack it. Arekkz Gaming has a video for new players of Destiny or those who are looking to brush up on their knowledge of the game. Today’s theme is […]

  • Capcom adds local co-op to Resident Evil: Revelations 2 on PC

    Following fan outrage over lack of local co-op support for the PC version of Resident Evil: Revelations 2, Capcom has now added it. Resident Evil: Revelations 2 now officially supports split-screen local co-op in both campaign and raid mode. The update is currently in beta on Steam, but anyone can opt-in to try it. Capcom […]

  • New Destiny glitch spawns infinite Thralls on Earth

    Destiny’s latest glitch spawns infinite Thralls to help fuel your bounty hunting and loot lust. The glitch is simple to replicate. You’ll need to start The Dark Within mission on Earth, on any difficulty. Then follow the steps in the video below (Via DualShockers) to get to an area out of the map. You’ll then […]

  • Battlefield 4 Winter Patch is here with new game mode, netcode improvements and more

    DICE has released the Winter Patch for Battlefield 4. The patch brings an eSports focus with new game mode Squad Obliteration and plenty more. Battlefield 4 Winter Patch is now live on all platforms. It’s just over 400MB on PC and 1.34GB on consoles. The patch adds new game mode Squad Obliteration and more customisation […]

  • HTC hopes to see Half-Life on VR headset Vive

    Vive manufacturer HTC said that it hopes to see Valve games, including Half-Life, on the virtual reality headset. Speaking to the BBC, HTC chairwoman Cher Wang said that Valve is keen on having its games available on the VR headset. “I think Valve’s best game is Dota, right, and Portal and [Team Fortress] and I […]

  • Make money easily in Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate

    If you’re looking to buy a fell set of armour for your character in Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate but keep falling short on Zenny, this video will show you an easy way to make lots of it. Arekkz Gaming has a very handy tip for all Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate players: how to make Zenny […]

  • This is how you claim free Xbox One games from your Xbox 360

    Microsoft is giving everyone the ability to claim their free Xbox One Games with Gold titles from their Xbox 360 console, even without owning an Xbox One. If you don’t yet own an Xbox One and want to make sure you don’t miss out on all those free Games with Gold games, you’ll be pleased […]

  • Destiny weekly reset for March 3: Heroic and Nightfall detailed

    Bungie has reset the weekly cap of Crucible and Vanguard marks and added new Heroic and Nightfall strikes, now with burn. From now until next Tuesday, the weekly Heroic strike will be The Devil’s Lair with Heroic and Lightswitch modifiers. As for the Nightfall, you’ll be fighting Sepiks Prime with the help of Arc burn. […]

  • Few Mass Effect FemShep cosplays are as elaborate as this one

    The internet is full of Female Commander Shepard cosplay from Mass Effect, but very few are as terrific as this one. Visual artist Freya Willia has spent over two years painstakingly creating the perfect suit of armour and the best weapons to make her cosplay of Female Shepard as authentic as possible, Omni tool and […]

  • Deals with Gold: Assassin’s Creed Unity, Red Dead Redemption and more discounted

    This week’s Deals with Gold titles for Xbox Live subscribers is a good mix of modern games and old favourites. The list of discounted games through this week’s Deals with Gold is live with discounts on Assassin’s Creed Unity, Amazing Spider-Man 2, Red Dead Redemption, Max Payne 3, and more. The deals are live now […]

  • Destiny guide: how to maximise your Grimoire Points

    Destiny players regularly compare the size of their Grimoire Points. Learn how to make yours the biggest. Destiny guide: how to earn Grimoire Points In Destiny, earning most Grimoire cards is just a matter of playing the game, maybe a little more attentively than usual. You’ll either need to complete a certain number of actions […]

  • Shovel Knight: Plague of Shadows will let you play as a baddie

    Shovel Knight owners will benefit from the generosity of Kickstarter backers quite soon. Because Shovel Knight was overfunded during its Kickstarter campaign, developer Yacht Club Games committed to releasing free content updates. The first of these, Plague of Shadows, has now been detailed. The expansion stars baddy Plague Knight, who turns on his former allies, […]

  • GTA controversies, from Hot Coffee to PR manipulation

    GTA has a long history of controversy. The latest Did You Know Gaming tells the full stories behind the sensational headlines. Grand Theft Auto is such a byword for controversy that it’s easy to forget the full context of what actually happened to bring mainstream press, politicians and interest group awareness to the Rockstar series. […]

  • Infamous 2 one of five new PlayStation Now additions for March

    PlayStation Now will expand to the tune of five new games this month. The March PS Now additions are Infamous 2, Twisted Metal, R-Type Dimensions, Alone in the Dark: Inferno and Operation Flashpoint: Red River. PS Now will set you back $20 per month or $45 for a three month subscription. It offers all you […]

  • Final Fantasy 10/10-2 HD Remaster gets PS4 release date

    Final Fantasy 10/10-2 HD Remaster hits PS4 in May. The PS4 release date for Final Fantasy 10/10-2 HD Remaster is May 12 in North America and May 15 in Europe. Gematsu reports a special pre-order bonus calendar with art by Yoshitaka Amano is available through the Square Enix Store and participating retailers. In Europe, pre-ordering […]

  • Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare getting 15 new Prestige levels

    Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare players can now aspire to the ranks of Grand Master Prestige. Advanced Warfare developer Sledgehammer Games will add 15 more Prestige levels to the latest Call of Duty, giving players at max XP a chance to grow even further. According to the Sledgehammer Games blog, when you enter Master level […]

  • Destiny: Crota’s End recreated in Minecraft

    Destiny’s toughest challenge gets even nastier if you throw Creepers into the mix. The ultimate Destiny challenge – for now – is the Crota’s End raid. Taking place in an alternate dimension accessed through the Hellmouth on the Moon, the Raid takes Guardians through a pit of darkness to the resting place of Crota himself. […]

  • Xenoblade Chronicles 3D trailer introduces the Heir to the Monado

    Xenoblade Chronicles 3D protagonist Shulk is the Heir to the Monado, his distinctive red sword. Let this trailer fill you in on what that means. Xenoblade Chronicles 3D releases for New 3DS on April 2 in Europe and April 10 in North America. As well as all the content of the Wii original, it has […]

  • The Elder Scrolls: Total War mod covers Morrowind, Oblivion and more

    The Elder Scrolls: Total War is a terrific mod allowing you get get intimately involved with the history of Bethesda’s detailed fantasy universe. The first release of The Elder Scrolls: Total War dropped on the weekend, giving players their first chance to try out LoRdNazgu1‘s creation. This version runs from 3E 427 to 4E 45, […]

  • Five Nights at Freddy’s 3 out now on Steam

    Five Nights at Freddy’s 3 is out now. Yes, we’re surprised too. You can grab Five Nights at Freddy’s 3 on Steam for $8. Developer Scott Cawthon really doesn’t mess about; the game was only announced in early January. Here’s the blurb: Thirty years after Freddy Fazbear’s Pizza closed it’s doors, the events that took […]

  • EVE Online heister makes off with $13,000 worth of goods

    EVE Online is a hotbed of villainy, espionage and backstabbing, but one intrepid corporate thief has made waves even in this setting. The thing about EVE Online is that it’s a true sandbox: the game’s rules are very loose, and allow players to make careers out of theft, piracy, assassination and espionage in addition to […]

  • Marth Amiibo getting a stock refresh in North America

    Nintendo of America has announced a fresh supply of the difficult to find Marth Amiibo. The Marth Amiibo will be back in stock in the US in late April, the platform holder said on Twitter today. Planning to pick up Code Name: S.T.E.A.M. and don’t have a Marth amiibo? More are headed to stores in […]

  • Skyrim beta update upgrades creation kit file size

    Skyrim has been granted a new beta update – more than three years after launch! – to improve the experience for modders and those who use them. The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim released in November 2011. I think that’s worth noting before we discuss the beta update that dropped today, even as Bethesda is working […]

  • Paradox’s next epic RPG is, uh, Knights of Pen & Paper 2

    Knights of Pen & Paper 2 is very serious business so please enjoy this very serious trailer. “Return to the dicey world of Knights of Pen & Paper for a new turn-based adventure, where players get to take on the role of players, and also of the game’s encounter-designing, rules-laywering GM in a fully customizable […]

  • Amplitude looks amazing in new gameplay trailer, has a team multiplayer mode

    Amplitude may have been delayed but we still get something this March: a fine new gameplay trailer. Amplitude is coming to PlayStation 3 and PS4 sometime in northern summer. It’s a reprisal of Harmonix’s classic rhythm action game, a forerunner to its later efforts with Guitar Hero and Rock Band, and was crowdfunded. Update: Turns […]

  • DayZ creator’s “crazy”, “esoteric” next game developed with Improbable

    DayZ creator Dean “Rocket” Hall has dropped the first vague details of his new game project. “I do not want to make safe games. I do not want to make games the way we have been making them. What if the most experienced video game staff in the world collaborated on the most esoteric and […]

  • Battlefield Hardline will support AMD’s Mantle

    AMD has confirmed what most Battlefield fans thought. Battlefield Hardline will indeed support Mantle. Battlefield Hardline will support Mantle, AMD has confirmed. Some players weren’t sure whether the retail version of the game will support AMD’s API, due to its absence from the recent PC beta. AMD did not say whether the feature will be […]

  • Unreal Engine 4 GDC 2015 sizzle reel shows what the tech can do

    Unreal Engine 4 is a pretty versatile bit of tech, as this new sizzle reel shows. As one of the more ubiquitous engines, Unreal will be on show at GDC this week. Developer Epic produced the following sizzle reel to quickly demonstrate what it can do – cutting edge graphics (there are very few games […]