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Nvidia boss: “No longer possible” for consoles to have better graphics than PC

Wednesday, 25 September 2013 05:46 GMT By Brenna Hillier

Consoles will never again launch with better graphics and more power than PCs, according to Nvidia executive Tony Tamasi.

“It’s no longer possible for a console to be a better or more capable graphics platform than the PC,” he told PC PowerPlay.

“Certainly with the first PlayStation and PS2, in that era there weren’t really good graphics on the PC. Around the time of the PS2 is when 3D really started coming to the PC, but before that time 3D was the domain of Silicon Graphics and other 3D workstations. Sony, Sega or Nintendo could invest in bringing 3D graphics to a consumer platform. In fact, the PS2 was faster than a PC.

“By the time of the Xbox 360 and PS3, the consoles were on par with the PC. If you look inside those boxes, they’re both powered by graphics technology by AMD or NVIDIA, because by that time all the graphics innovation was being done by PC graphics companies. NVIDIA spends 1.5 billion US dollars per year on research and development in graphics, every year, and in the course of a console’s lifecycle we’ll spend over 10 billion dollars into graphics research.

“Sony and Microsoft simply can’t afford to spend that kind of money. They just don’t have the investment capacity to match the PC guys; we can do it thanks to economy of scale, as we sell hundreds of millions of chips, year after year.”

Back when previous generations of consoles launched, Tamasi explained, PC hardware wasn’t designed to the absolutely limits of what is possible at fabrication.

“The PC graphics industry wasn’t operating at the limits of device physics and power. If you wind back the clock, a high-end graphics card at that time was maybe 75W or 100W max. We weren’t building chips that were on the most advanced semiconductor process and were billions of transistors,” he said.

“Now we’re building GPUs at the limits of what’s possible with fabrication techniques. Nobody can build anything bigger or more powerful than what is in the PC at the moment. It just is not possible, but that wasn’t the case in the last generation of consoles. Taken to the theoretical limits, the best any console could ever do would be to ship a console that is equal to the best PC at that time. But then a year later it’s going to be slower, and it still wouldn’t be possible due to the power limits.”

Tamasi has said that Nvidia wasn’t snubbed by Sony and Microsoft, but chose not to be involved in the PS4 and Xbox One because it just wasn’t worth it. He later said that mobiles will out-perform current consoles anyway.

Matt Skynner, vice president of rival AMD, described Tamasi’s attitude as “sour grapes”, and has said partnering with console manufacturers will help AMD win the PC hardware race, too.

Thanks, games.on.net.

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75 Comments

  1. redwood

    cause we are entering an era of over priced graphic cards and un-optimized games.

    #1 2 years ago
  2. sebastien rivas

    never say never, unless you see the perspective from self narrow viewpoint.
    And yes GCs are overpriced and Nvidia has a good smile for now since there is too little if not no competition for higher gaming GC.
    What they don’t understand is that perhaps they do have higher profit margin but it does not mean they sell as many units; therefore will we see a decrease in PC component sells as a result in next 1 to 5 years?

    Also We know Nvidia, we know AMD/ATI but Intel may come on the market at some point. I can’t speak for them but since Intel already selling APU (though clunkier than AMD at GC level) as well as (I am not so sure when) already released or about to release professional GCs which may spice up some competition down the road if they decide to twist they pro. GCs along with some gaming GC lineups.
    Unfortunately from my perspective, it feels like Intel may be going to compete with AMD at first which is not where they want to start in order to be praised and also in hope to re-bounce PC component sells.

    In the meantime, I make a grinding face when I hear Nvidia nowadays…

    #2 2 years ago
  3. Dragon246

    Stating the obvious.
    Meanwhile, No 400$ PC can match the performance of PS4.

    @2,
    Latest rumored AMD cards supposedly outperform Titan.

    #3 2 years ago
  4. ddtd

    It seems that Nvidia has been a little down on the console market since it’s been revealed that Sony and Microsoft went with AMD for their CPUs and GPUs.

    Plus, I agree with #2. Nvidia talks about these super powerful GPUs that push the limits, however fail to mentions the price point. Let’s be honest, the target demo for those units are enthusiasts with deep pockets. The average PC gamer is going to build their rigs sensibly and to last for a long time before upgrading, and they know you don’t need the latest and greatest parts because the hardware is outpacing what the software can do because designers are spec-ing the games to run on the most common setups.

    #4 2 years ago
  5. gomersoul

    It’s never been possible for consoles to have better graphics, captain obvious… This sounds like sour grapes to me again. Stop bashing consoles and concentrate on why you didn’t get those hardware contracts, it’s not helping nvidias public image

    #5 2 years ago
  6. viralshag

    Who really cares THAT much though other than GPU manufacturers, PC fanboys and dedicated PC enthusiasts?

    As a gamer good graphics are obviously a bonus but where are all these amaaaaaazing games n the PC? 95% of the time they’re getting the exact same games as consoles and most of the time as a late after thought port where the graphics don’t improve that much.

    #6 2 years ago
  7. TheWulf

    Hooray, a painfully obvious statement that’s only going to deepen the divide between console owners and computer owners.

    I’ve never owned a computer for graphical fidelity, anyway. Why do I own a computer? For a few things that a console can’t and won’t be able to do, which is solely due to the nature of the beast. Of course, the worth of why I own a PC is completely subjective.

    Mods

    I like mods, they can do anything from repairing content, to adding content, or even completely changing the nature of a game. I’d say that Skyrim is definitely a better experience with mods, but then you may have people who’re all about convenience who’d think that mods are more trouble than their worth.

    Installing mods has become as easy as a button press thanks to Steam Workshop, and that’s undeniably a truism, but it’s still might be too much for the average consumer to want to bother with. One might simply want a product that is as it is, to use it and then discard it, as part of the usual cycle of capitalism. They may not be interested in the continuation of a game via mods, they may just want to trade it in as second-hand.

    I like what mods can add, though, and I like that they do offer what I feel is a superior gaming experience. I like that I can go to Steam and just click a button to get an interesting new map or piece of content for something. Yet not everyone would agree.

    It’s all about the right product. If you care about extending the life of your games, then having a PC is worth the price. If you don’t, then it isn’t. It’s that simple. Some people like to come back to games, others just prefer to move on to the next mainstream experience ASAP.

    Indie Titles

    Games like Gone Home, Shelter, Megabyte Punch, Shadowrun Returns, The Swapper, MacGuffin’s Curse, Beatbuddy, and so on may never arrive on consoles. Why? I’d say that there are three primary reasons.

    1. Money

    To list a game on a console, it often takes more money than it would on a PC. Why? You’ll often have to pay for the right to publish a game on a console, whereas on the PC you can just host the game on your own site and sell it to people from there. This is something that the Android platform has in common with the PC.

    It also means that you’ll never see the likes of humble bundles, where most of the money may go to charity.

    2. Jumping Through Hoops

    To get something on a console you have to go through loads of red tape, and it takes a huge amount of time. And then to land a patch, it’s sometimes more trouble than it’s worth, and more costly. This is why you’ll have developers who land patches on the PC first and more frequently, because there’s no one to tell them that they can’t patch their game, and no one to tell them it’ll cost money.

    Bethesda tends to land PC patches first and more frequently due to this very factor, and they’ve even said as much. It can be a massive hassle, and one that indie developers just don’t want to deal with. It can be more trouble than it’s worth.

    3. Advertising

    Even if you get a game listed on a console, it tends to not have the limelight — that’s given to AAA titles which console manufacturers have deals with. Furthermore, there can be no humble bundles on a console, because the control of how sales work is handled purely by the console manufacturer. So you can’t get the kind of advertising that being a part of a bundle would bring you.

    Furthermore, on Steam, indies tend to get front page treatment, that’s something that rarely ever happens on consoles, and when it does it’s always with either larger budget titles, or with exclusive titles. Want to release your titles cross-platform? Don’t expect the consoles to do you any favours with advertising if you’re not being exclusive.

    So for those three reasons there are games on the PC which can’t be found anywhere else (except perhaps on Android). This is the nature of the beast. The console is a closed platform that has endless series of gatekeepers. The PC is an open platform with no gatekeepers. Which do you think is the easiest for indie devs?

    Perhaps you’re only interested in indie games if they have a big budget, though, and AAA-like polish. Maybe you just prefer AAA third-person action games and manshoots, and you’re not interested in any of this pretentious, retro pap. That’s your prerogative, and in this case a console might suit you better. It’d be all you need.

    Emulation / Back Catalogue

    The PC has the back catalogue of almost everything. The earliest home computers, arcades, and consoles right up to and including the PS2 and the Wii. It also has the entire back catalogue of the PC, every title released since the IBM PC was a thing.

    So if you want to play an old game on your next gen console, you can’t. It’s not backwards compatible. Yet if you felt like pulling a title from ’01 out of your library, you can, and you’ll be able to play it. Titles from way back still work, I recently replayed Ultima VII, which is as old as the hills at this point.

    So whereas the PS4 doesn’t support the PS3, and the XBox One doesn’t support the 360, the PC is different. Every PC upgrade will continue to support every game in your library, and you won’t ever lose that library. You won’t have to re-buy games on your new platform simply because your old platform isn’t supported.

    And like I said, there’s emulation. Feel like playing a NES game from forever ago? You can! Feel like playing a modern remake of that game? It’s no doubt out there as freeware. Someone’s done it!

    Yet maybe one isn’t interested in the history of gaming, and as such this wouldn’t hold much of an appeal. It might have no appeal at all. If that is indeed the case, then this wouldn’t make a PC desirable to them. A console would be a better choice, maybe.

    Sharing

    Game jams! Freeware! Open source! People make and give away games for free. Have you ever played Frogatto and Friends? If you have a PC and you haven’t — for shame! It’s one of the best platformers out there, and it costs exactly zero pennies. There are so many brilliant games with no price-tag attached.

    Have you played Full Moon Rising? If not, you absolutely should, it’s hilarious! I could sit here for hours asking ‘have you played,’ I really could. Have you played Naya? Have you played Dino Run? Have you played Warsow? Have you played Shivah? But yes, it’ll take up too much of your time if I were to. Suffice it to say though, there’s a lot of good, free stuff out there.

    I like it because it has charm and they’re experiences you wouldn’t find in the mainstream. Yet some people? Some people would see them as utterly stupid, and lacking the mainstream polish they’d desire. It’s not for everyone.

    So there you go. Those are reasons to either own or not own a PC.

    #7 2 years ago
  8. TheWulf

    @6

    Sure, that’s true. If you forget the game jam games, the open source games, the freeware games, and the indie games which aren’t anything like the console mainstream.

    I suppose that’s easy to forget though if you just don’t have experience with a PC, but really it just speaks of your ignorance on the subject. You’re looking in from the outside, and you don’t know what to look for. So you make incorrect assumptions.

    It comes across as a bizarre sort of discrimination. You don’t know about X, so you make derogatory assumptions about it. I don’t understand what it’s fuelled by, honestly. A feeling of inferiority or… what?

    You tell me.

    Honestly, I’d be perfectly happy if you’d at least do your research. Whenever I talk about something, I at least take the time to dip my feet in to make sure that I’m right.

    #8 2 years ago
  9. viralshag

    @8, he’s talking purely about graphics so please point out why that applies to indies and emulators. You’re talking about gaming as a whole on the PC which is completely off topic. Did you even read the article?

    #9 2 years ago
  10. OwnedWhenStoned

    Any graphical improvements between my PC and my PS3 are an added bonus for me.

    I use the PC more because I have more choice on input methods.

    But I have to say, very few PS3 games look better.

    #10 2 years ago
  11. mistermogul

    To be honest I never thought consoles had better graphics than PC anyway.

    #11 2 years ago
  12. Erthazus

    @viralConsoleFanboy,
    “Who really cares THAT much though other than GPU manufacturers, PC fanboys and dedicated PC enthusiasts?

    As a gamer good graphics are obviously a bonus but where are all these amaaaaaazing games n the PC? 95% of the time they’re getting the exact same games as consoles and most of the time as a late after thought port where the graphics don’t improve that much.”

    If no one cared, AMD or Nvidia would not sell millions of GPU’s.

    Good graphics is first of all 60 frames per second and 1080p and not 720p and 20 frames per second that is outdated 15 years ago.

    95% of the time console gamers getting nothing but PR talk from Sony and Microsoft and that’s where games end’s.

    Every game that comes to the PC from console even if it is the most shittiest port ever will look 20 times better because of resolution, frame rate, filters and if you want. You can force your videocard to use Anti-aliasing.

    Current gen games on the PC looks like a next gen game. Easy.

    #12 2 years ago
  13. Erthazus

    @Dragon246, “Meanwhile, No 400$ PC can match the performance of PS4.”

    Yeah, you can, fucktwit.

    http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1753985/400-gaming.html

    and even with better performance.

    #13 2 years ago
  14. Gekidami

    ^ smh What a douche. Not only does his link prove nothing in regards to what was said, its not even in the slightest bit relevant, but obviously its finished with that highly upper class PC gamer “We dont swear and scream like kids online” insult.

    Seriously, can he get banned just for being such a massive tool? He could use the time to find out what an OS is.

    #14 2 years ago
  15. DrDamn

    @13
    http://www.hwcompare.com/12033/radeon-hd-7770-vs-radeon-hd-7850/

    Not to mention the PS4 GPU is meant to be a little more powerful than a 7850 too. The 7770 is what’s closest to the X1 before you start taking into account customisations.

    #15 2 years ago
  16. viralshag

    @12, what’s your point? I’m not disputing the fact that people game on the PC, obviously they do and that’s why they sell graphics cards, because you can’t game on a PC without them… So really, what is your point?

    If graphics are the most important thing going why do consoles and console games sell so well?

    At the end of the day you’re still playing the majority of games that console players are. In the grand scheme of things a few more bells and whistles doesn’t change the core experience of a game. Please feel free to point out the huge list of graphically impressive PC exclusives from the last year or two.

    #16 2 years ago
  17. CyberMarco

    @Erth, Why PC-only game developers didn’t make PC games look like next gen? (apart from Crysis yada yada…)

    e.g. Why didn’t the Witcher 2 look like how the Witcher 3 is going to look on “next-gen”? Note that I’m not mentioning console ports to PC obviously.

    Still waiting to hear how you can play a AAA at “any resolution you want” with a budget PC.

    #17 2 years ago
  18. ninjanutta

    Here we go ………LOL.

    #18 2 years ago
  19. Citrus raptor

    As someone who’s made the personal realisation that graphics are worthless if the content they’re displaying isn’t good, I couldn’ care less about this graphics stress. ‘Better’ graphics is a fleeting concept, making it one’s top priority is dumb. A solid display of art/Graphics that runs well is a better target.

    Hell, even if I had the opportunity of making a game with photorealistic graphics, I’d still want to explore those we see in games today. Just like someone who’s interesed in pixel art today. Brian Eno once said something about a medium and its various stages; I Think it would fit well in discussions about graphics nowadays.

    A bit more on topic… I don’t care, Nvidia.

    #19 2 years ago
  20. Erthazus

    @DrDamn, Show me official PS4 graphics card GPU specs. Otherwise this is all speculation. Fact is that the system for 415$ is more powerfull than PS4 right now.
    1 year later it’s going to have a 2x power and each year it is going to be the same thing.

    @CyberMarco,
    “e.g. Why didn’t the Witcher 2 look like how the Witcher 3 is going to look on “next-gen”? Note that I’m not mentioning console ports to PC obviously.”

    Have you actually played Witcher 2 on the PC? It looks next gen on the PC.
    Have you ever looked what effects and stuff that game had in the PC version?
    And No one saw decent (and the latest build) of witcher 3 on consoles.
    “Still waiting to hear how you can play a AAA at “any resolution you want” with a budget PC.”

    What you mean by a budget PC? You can play any AAA game at any resolution and it depends on your hardware. Is something wrong with that?
    What budget?

    @Gekidami, I don’t need to find what OS is because I actually can program in Linux and I know EXACTLY what OS is about. Your knowledge about OS is as much as the next kid below you. You don’t know Ubuntu, PhP, SQL, how to work at XAMPP and so on. You can only talk about Sony superiority for your favourite sony fanboys.

    #20 2 years ago
  21. Lengendaryboss

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    #21 2 years ago
  22. Gekidami

    “Show me official PS4 graphics card GPU specs. Otherwise this is all speculation.”
    lol The hypocrisy.

    -Is willing to speculate whats more capable

    -Is shown to be (yet again) an idiot who doesnt know what he’s talking about

    -Suddenly now that he’s been proven wrong, comparing cards (which he himself was doing) is pointless because its just “speculating”

    You’ve got to laugh because if you dont, the fact that this person is of the same species as the rest of us will make you cry for your sanity.

    #22 2 years ago
  23. DrDamn

    @Erth
    If you say it’s speculation then how can you say this box you’ve linked is more powerful?

    A 7770 is a 1.28 teraflop card. PS4 is 1.84 teraflops. That much is known.

    #23 2 years ago
  24. absolutezero

    You think the PS4 will let us turn off Motion Blur this time?

    I wonder if they’ll have an actual options page. I mean they are powerful enough at this stage that it would not be all that difficulty to impliment either a general system setting or game specific options.

    I value clarity and framerate above most graphical bells and whistles so being able to actually turn superfluous ugly shit off like Motion Blur would be interesting to see if it lead directly to improved performance on the consoles.

    #24 2 years ago
  25. Gekidami

    @23
    Because he’s a greasy weasel who will lie and make up stuff so that consoles always look worst than PC?

    #25 2 years ago
  26. Lengendaryboss

    “You’ve got to laugh because if you don’t.”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BL55GM2DPno

    #26 2 years ago
  27. Fin

    @20

    “Your knowledge about OS is as much as the next kid below you. You don’t know Ubuntu, PhP, SQL, how to work at XAMPP and so on.”

    PHP, SQL dbs and XAMPP aren’t remotely related to OS.
    Also, PHP and SQL aren’t exactly difficult to pick up/a good measure of someone’s knowledge. Nor is Ubuntu, really. It’s like the WinXP of Linux distros (easy to use, everyone knows about it).

    #27 2 years ago
  28. monkeygourmet

    Yeah… Graphics and power don’t matter.

    Unless your comparing PS4 to Xbone. Then PS4 wins because it’s more powerful.

    People pick and choose when it’s appropriate for them. Fact is Sony & MS (I won’t even mention Nintendo in this case), have made very medicore ‘next gen’ consoles this time.

    It’s not even their fault as creating a cutting edge machine that will be cheapish and last 10 years isn’t really in the realms of possibility right now.

    GPU’s and mobile devices are increasing in power on an almost 6 monthly basis, consoles just can’t keep up, this has never been more evident and why streaming will potentially bail them out late into the generation.

    Launching a console that can’t keep a stable 1080p & 60fps is a mistake though, especailly from my perspective. The average joe doesn’t care, but people who frequent gaming sites like this should understand that the next gen has sacrificed alot for media functions, OS and app switching.

    It had to be done in some respects, but the devices are becoming more like dumbed down PC’s and PC’s are becoming more like ‘top end’ consoles.

    #28 2 years ago
  29. Fin

    @28

    |very medicore ‘next gen’ consoles

    Just out of curiosity, how many graphics cards have 8GB of GDDR5 RAM?
    I don’t think they’ll outperform PCs, obviously, but calling them mediocre is a bit of a joke.

    #29 2 years ago
  30. absolutezero

    GDDR5 is not just a straight upgrade over DDR3 when used in a PC, if you have a GPU with some GDDR5 and some system DDR3 then it can both multi-task well and handle more focused intense graphic output.

    #30 2 years ago
  31. monkeygourmet

    @29

    I fully expected 1080p & 60fps as standard. If that wasn’t the case, PC as my main gaming platform then consoles as secondary.

    Im fed up of screen tear, framerates dropping below 30fps etc… Games are looking better than ever, but certain things betray them and I feel we will see a repeat next gen, only with more ‘sparkles’.

    Im not sure the GDDR5 on the PS4 works in the same way as the PC uses it, although I don’t know enough about PC’s.

    To me, the GDDR5 is the new CELL / Bluray when I see how Sony fanboys describe it.

    Until I see evidence for it being used purely for gaming and not being gobbled up by OS features, it means nothing to me.

    @30 explained it better than me! :)

    #31 2 years ago
  32. pcbros

    PC($$$) Graphics > Console ($$) Graphics… what a shocker :P

    #32 2 years ago
  33. Fin

    @30

    So if you had GDDR5 as both video and system memory in a PC, you would get better performance? Cos that’s what the PS4 does (w/unified memory).

    @31

    It doesn’t work the same way as a PC uses it, as it has unified memory between the game and graphics. PCs have one chunk of memory for OS and game (ie normal RAM), and one chunk of memory for graphics (graphics card RAM). Unified memory on PS4 means all of this is combined, so the developer can decide how much RAM to allocate for game/graphics split, rather than being constrained by predefined amounts (eg 1GB of RAM in a standard PC graphics card is all that can be used by graphics). It also allowed other features, like super-high transfer rates (something like 170gb/sec for GDDR5) across all memory, as everything is in one pool.

    It’s not equivilant to CELL, as GDDR5 will be standard in PC graphics cards, but not for a few years.

    “Until I see evidence for it being used purely for gaming and not being gobbled up by OS features”

    Don’t think you quite understand – games on PS4 have a specific amount of memory to work with (5GB, last I heard). The rest is “gobbled” (2.5GB total, probably) by the OS, but the entire 5GB is free for the devs to use (w/arbitrary split between game memory and graphics memory).

    Think of a console like a PC with SteamOS on it. Low overhead, everything’s designed for game optimization.

    #33 2 years ago
  34. absolutezero

    No it would lead to worse performance if you had DDR5 throughout. DDR3 is better at handling multiple processes at the sametime, switching between programs and having multiple programs open simultaneously. DDR5 is superior at running single progresses and slow slightly when its tasked with multiple programs.

    Thats why the combination of both system based DDR3 for everyday use and then dedicated GDDR5 on a GPU is a more useful set up for a PC.

    Thats why its a little bit odd that all of the OS side of things and say streaming, recording etc is going to run through DDR5. It would have made more sense to include DDR3 dedicated to that stuff. I guess it might have ended up being too confusing to code for and could possibly have raised the price.

    DDR5 is more or less already standard across most GPU’s around today. Because the OS and the rest of the PC is running system RAM you need less on the GPU, which lowers the price.

    #34 2 years ago
  35. monkeygourmet

    @33

    Im getting a PS4, and Im sure we’ll see some great stuff down the line.

    But, im disappointed that the original pitch of Cerny (I’m paraphrasing); PC like, powerful, easy to develop for, made by gamers for gamers, etc.. Isn’t evidant atall to me in the games I have seen so far.

    I know they are launch titles, but considering the ease of use and power of the wonder machine, I expected locked framerates and better looking games.

    Of course games will look better in 2 years time, hell, even Nintendo & Retro will prob make the Wii U sing, but by then the hardcore PC GPU’s will be upon us and the leap will be huge.

    For me, there has been a large descrepency between what is promised and so far been shown.

    The PS4 is more in my firing line as there are multi sources promoting the power it has over Xbone without evidence.

    #35 2 years ago
  36. DrDamn

    @MG
    We’ve ended up with what’s sustainable from a business point. People don’t want to spend $700+ on a basic console and MS and Sony can’t take a $300 hit for each console they sell.

    The 60fps/1080p argument doesn’t work. There will always be games who trade off the extra 30fps for prettier pictures, and for a lot of people that’s what they want. Both X1 and PS4 could mandate 60fps/1080p. Both consoles have the grunt to achieve it. It’s not a power issue.

    #36 2 years ago
  37. edragon

    HA HA HAAAA!

    All this because Sony and Microsoft using AMD? LMAO! :)

    Anyway like this Nvidia guy wrote, year later next PC is better again. But only then if you buy NEW Nvidia card. New card price is over £800. And this is funny part. How many home PC users spending EVERY YEAR £800 for new Nvidia graphic card??? :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

    I think I go and better buy console than buy every year new nvidia card. That’s why 80% PC players are pirates. they spend all the money for hardware, so they do not have any money left for software! :)

    #37 2 years ago
  38. Fin

    @34

    Er, how do you quantify “better at handling multiple processes”? Latency?

    @35

    How would you tell if something was easy to develop for?

    #38 2 years ago
  39. EdgizAwesome

    Erthazus, just stop, stop being an idiot, stop insulting others, and stop wasting commenting space please as time and time again you have been proven wrong in your pathetic rants.

    #39 2 years ago
  40. monkeygourmet

    @36

    “The 60fps/1080p argument doesn’t work.”

    It’s not an argument! :)

    History shows that without setting a solid benchmark from the off, more and more things get sacrificed.

    Last gen games were going below 720p and 30fps in alot of cases. At the start of this coming gen, we’ve already seen games like Ryse drop from 1080p to 900p and BF4′s res is still unconfirmed.

    All im saying is, things will start to drift as the years go by if you don’t have a solid foundation.

    I’ve had a 1080p TV for 4+ years now. 1080p is what I expect from a new machine that is supposed to last 8 years. Im fed up of jaggies, screen tear and framerates dropping below 30. I can foresee next gen struggling with these benchmarks, hence consoles will become my additions to a gaming PC.

    I understand that MS and Sony couldn’t afford to lose out too much, but both seem like a very small jump to me.

    Biggest ‘new’ features are sharing, media functions. I have a media PC and iPad for stuff like that so it really doesn’t excite me. Facebook / app switching, i’m really not bothered.

    #40 2 years ago
  41. monkeygourmet

    @38

    “How would you tell if something was easy to develop for?”

    Good question. Im just not atall blown away by many things I have seen from next gen so far. Both consoles seem like minor upgrades with media functionality tacked on.

    Thats not my vision for next gen.

    #41 2 years ago
  42. VibraniumSpork

    http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/490/786/6e7.gif

    #42 2 years ago
  43. Keivz

    @41
    You’re suffering from “launch titles” syndrome. I recommend the watchful waiting approach.

    #43 2 years ago
  44. stockops3

    Graphics, Graphics, Graphics, who cares really? I will also prefer games which have good gameplay, not how many polgons you can fit on a screen or stupid hyper ‘realistic’ graphics. And people play indie games and minecraft and MMO’s which aren’t revolutionary in graphics at all. But yet we still want Crysis 8 with ULTRA REALISM…… Art design > Polgons.

    #44 2 years ago
  45. DSB

    Yup, stating the obvious.

    He was right about the AMD console deal as well. It’s pretty obvious to anyone that AMD was the company that needed that deal the most.

    #45 2 years ago
  46. monkeygourmet

    @41

    :)

    I know what you mean! It’s a little bit more than that though. I just hoped for a little more power, and a little less media functions.

    It’s been a looooooong wait for this next gen, just doesn’t seem like a big enough jump for me. Still, I will enjoy the exclusives!

    #46 2 years ago
  47. DrDamn

    @40
    While you can still gain visually from dropping to 30fps over 60fps then it’s going to remain a choice for devs. Tech where you can’t realistically gain is arguably not available or prohibitively expensive.

    #47 2 years ago
  48. monkeygourmet

    @47

    The price of the PS4 is about okay for the tech. Not so sure about the Xbone though.

    Also, Wii U is now priced okay(ish).

    I would have still paid £399 – £429 for a PS4 that had more power though, it was cheaper than I expected it to be.

    #48 2 years ago
  49. sleaker

    And reporting from reality… Consoles have never had better graphics capabilities than current-gen PC Graphics hardware, woo.

    #49 2 years ago
  50. Fin

    I think the problem is ye’re all comparing consoles to your high gaming rigs.

    For the average consumer who has an alright laptop, consoles have faaar better graphics than PCs.

    #50 2 years ago
  51. monkeygourmet

    @49

    No, but this is the first proper generation that the PC is being seen as a viable alternative for many people.

    #51 2 years ago
  52. Phoenixblight

    @51

    And what evidence do you have of the PC being an alternative? Sorry but you won’t get a PC for the same price as a PS4 or Xbox One that provides the same performance. Price is king.

    #52 2 years ago
  53. monkeygourmet

    @52

    To a point, yeah.

    Im coming at it form a point of view of PC gaming coverage and spread of information.

    In the last 4 years, sites like Eurogamer et all have gone from minimal PC coverage, to showing how to build cheap machines that outperform consoles and are easy to build.

    #53 2 years ago
  54. DrDamn

    @51
    That says as much about where PCs were before than consoles now. They were a lot more of a pain in the ass (and they still are to an extent) than they are now.

    #54 2 years ago
  55. Cobra951

    “Sony and Microsoft simply can’t afford to spend that kind of money.”

    Since when? Microsoft at least can easily spend that wad of cash on any number of things. They allocated $1 billion to the RRoD fiasco alone.

    The story is all marketing speak, not facts. He’s throwing way too many absolutes into his speech for it to be factual. Nothing is flatly impossible, dear sir. Not that I disagree with the notion of PCs being the superior platform for graphics. Clearly, they are.

    #55 2 years ago
  56. DSB

    @54 Yes and no. The PC is really facing a lot more pressure right now than it ever has, but it’s not from consoles, it’s from tablets.

    They’re the next step on the evolutionary chain, it’s just a question of how fast miniaturization will mature.

    Other than that, I think you’re right, PC gaming is differentiating itself a lot more than it has compared to previous generations. Going into the 360/PS3 era, you were looking at platforms that were all running on physical media.

    Now the PC is digital, and it’s been able to reap the rewards of being an open, evolving platform.

    One thing that bothers me a lot about the new consoles is that they haven’t been able to find an SSD cheap enough. It’s gonna be pretty sad to go from a PC that starts and runs within seconds to a console that potentially makes me wait for minutes at a time.

    Booting up my old 360 is already a pain.

    @55 The fact that they could doesn’t mean it’s viable, which is obviously what he’s talking about. Microsoft aren’t about to throw away money, they have shareholders to care for.

    #56 2 years ago
  57. monkeygourmet

    @54

    And also the direction consoles are moving in.

    They are essentially more like a PC than ever before.

    Multitasking, Apps, Internet Browsers, Facebook, Media, Games etc…

    If im doing all that, I’d rather be doing it on a machine that can offer better performance.

    The Wii U is the last ‘traditional’ console, and even that has it’s fair share of media type functions.

    Dark Souls is a good example of why I want to switch. I loved that game, but being able to play it on PC at 1080p / 60FPS (blighttown!) with mods would make the game alot better for me.

    Same with GTA 5 and any game you care to mention thats multiplat. Even a badly optimised game gets tweaks and performs so much better. Effectivly, how the dev would have wanted it without being limited.

    You get what you pay for and all that. :)

    I really don’t want to go into the new era thinking…

    ‘those textures look shit’
    ‘Damn screen tear’
    ‘Jaggies’
    ‘Why is it chugging at 20fps’

    Deep Down initial reveal compared to the gameplay was such a difference it has cemented my decision.

    http://www.vgleaks.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/gif-1.gif

    I just can’t stand all these bullshots and fake videos.

    #57 2 years ago
  58. sebastien rivas

    @ Numerous posters who ponder the question of top GC lineups use for best graphics.

    In my opinion it has never been with I want the top of the line because I want the top graphics.
    You know, and I know it is quite dumb because the value at which I purchase a real high price GC is just too great compared to the longevity of keeping that card to top games FPS and settings.
    However, I did pay full price for example when GTX8800 OC’ed came out because according to the card specs and features then I knew I could keep it for a minimum of 4 to 6 years for gaming and it was already in the order of 500~650$ bucks already.

    But paying 1K + for at best 2 years of ultra settings and remaining hopeful to keep the card for 6 years, I say no thanks!

    Again as I mentioned in a previous thread. Cards are slightly bigger, do have a die shrink and have roomier set of memory.
    My point is, Should that be expressed with such price increase? Silicon and other elements are is more use but not to define such price increase. While first batches of die shrink are hard to make, then I assume it becomes easier within 6 to 8 months, so again price tag?
    Please don’t shove feature(s) in my face to prove anything, that would be debilitating! (look at my DDR5, it goes X time faster than…), the result in composition is primarily the same as others, still is silicon crammed in a different way and perhaps in different amount but again does that prove price tag increase?

    Don’t get me wrong, I am really happy for anyone who perceive the value is right and go for it. Although it is my belief that Nvidia is going the wrong way that can only lead to stall PC component sells in general.

    #58 2 years ago
  59. Dragon246

    Bottomline is, both next-gen consoles and PC can happily co-exist imo. I don’t think neither Nvidia, MS and Sony has anything serious to be worried about. New iterative hardware sells, there is no need for a revolution for next-gen as some hardcore gamers bark about, just look at Iphone sales.
    With the exception of failed Wii U , real next-gen consoles (PS4 and X1) should take console gaming to new heights. Similarly, PC gaming will also only increase. PC hardware sales doesn’t really have a direct relation to PC gaming figures, which have been pretty consistent.

    One more point, hardware grunt isn’t the only thing that will define next-gen success, it also requires great pricing. 400$ is a very good price of admission for next-gen imo since its a decent price and is also enough to cram some serious hardware (not PC Master Race kind of serious :P ).

    #59 2 years ago
  60. DSB

    @59 I’d be surprised if we didn’t see a few PC hardware companies go under over the course of the next generation. The ones that will survive are the ones that are heavily engaged in mobile, tablets and servers.

    That’s just the natural consequence of the market shrinking. Fewer bucks to go around. Making hardware is hugely expensive, so you really have to go big or go home.

    If you look at the numbers of the AMD deal, you’re looking at providing hardware for possibly 200 million units over ten years (tops, right?). But the PC market alone is closer to 350 every year (and that’s a minimum estimate). I don’t even know what the server, tablet or mobile market looks like.

    So that’s really not a big deal when you consider the scale.

    #60 2 years ago
  61. sebastien rivas

    @59
    I like your idea. As you mention, perhaps race to next absolute bigger/better is the wrong way to go in first place in which case Nvidia better take this personally because they have always been thrived by next big thing and raced for it. But one in all, I agree with an idea that technology may be going a bit too fast nowadays; therefore beware or drown in your own delirium if there is a market switch of demands which again price tag may have a hard core value to play in this scenario.

    #61 2 years ago
  62. CyberMarco

    @monkey, regarding the issue of console (not) being able to deliver next-gen games at a solid 1080p @60FPS.

    It all depends on the developer, how they want to deliver their games, do they want to sacrifice some of the resolution and FPS for better lighting/shadow effects, higher quality textures and the likes or do they want to keep it at solid 1080p @60FPS along the board but reduce the graphical fidelity?

    The same can be said for PC, I doubt my PC with be able to run BF4 maxed at 1080p @60FPS, although it managed to do it for BF3, so there it is.

    #62 2 years ago
  63. DrDamn

    @MG
    This is the TGS Deep Down video … http://youtube.com/watch?v=GSFYEg61-Fc

    Dragon fight is at the end. Not all that dissimilar to the initial reveal.

    #63 2 years ago
  64. pcbros

    @52 – Price is not king, value is king.

    If not all hail the Wii U, king of the next-generation!

    #64 2 years ago
  65. Phoenixblight

    @64

    Wii U doesn’t have price. Ps3 and 360 do not to mention the roster of games. ALso hardly call it next gen especially once next gen games come out you will see no games being ported to it.

    #65 2 years ago
  66. TheWulf

    I see #60 is still on his ‘computers are dying’ spiel. I’ll repost here what I posted on the forums.

    Yep. The PC is always dying. It’s been dying forever now, you know? Interestingly, Steam sales are higher now than they’ve ever been.

    Perhaps the two go hand in hand? The PC “dying” and the increasing popularity of Steam, I mean. Since usually if something is dying, it’s often haemorrhaging users. Like, say… WoW! WoW is the perfect example of something dying.

    I think there’s room for the PC and tablets/mobiles, honestly. I love my tablet and I use it to watch videos and do things, but the games for it are still by and large not very good at all. And indies are still producing for the PC more than any other platform, too.

    It happens all the time though, this. And it’s funny.

    8-bit consoles exist! Computers are dying!
    16-bit consoles exist! Computers are dying!
    The Playstation exists! Computers are dying!
    The PS2, GameCube, and Xbox exist! Computers are dying!
    The 360, PS3, and Wii exist! Computers are dying!
    The XBox One, PS4, and Wii U exist! Computers are dying!
    The tablet platforms exist! Computers are dying!

    Sounds like poorly considered hyperbole to me.

    Computers will always be “dying” whilst forever gaining more popularity. Funny how that works.

    I think some people just want the PC to die so bad that they delude themselves into believing that it some day will. It’s been happening ever since the earliest days of the PC. At first the computer was a fad that would never catch on. Then it was something that would never be popular, and since then it’s been something that was obviously going to die.

    Yet here the PC is, not only being as popular as it has ever been, but gaining in popularity with each passing year.

    As I pointed out in an earlier post — one buys something not because of idiotic brand loyalty, but because of what features the platform offers. There are features a PC offers that can’t be found anywhere else. Like open source games, game jams, freeware, indie titles, modding, emulation, and rampant bouts of unchecked creativity leading to all sorts of fun stuff.

    Maybe someone doesn’t want any of that, in which case a console is a better purchase. But that the PC exclusively possesses all of those features? That means that to certain buyers, the PC is always going to be the right choice. Right up until an open platform console happens.

    For the record, I’m completely for open platform consoles, I’ve said it time and time again in the past. An open platform console though would even help the PC, because the two would work in tandem to strengthen each other. So that’d be fantastic. It’d just a specific kind of open platform you connect to your TV, or a specific kind of open platform you sit at your desk.

    These platform wars have forever been stupid.

    Xbox people hating on Playstation people, and whatnot. It’s just stupid. It’s childish, hateful, and it doesn’t help anyone. After all, at the end of the day, all we want to do is play good games and play them how we want to, right?

    In that case, there’s enough room for all these platforms. And we should be happy with what we have.

    Hooray for once again having to be the voice of sanity and reason.

    #66 2 years ago
  67. TheWulf

    @44

    Couldn’t agree with you more. Don’t care if you’re a console owner, a PC owner, or a Texas Instruments calculator user, you speak the truth.

    We choose our platform and we use it to play games.

    Sometimes I feel like I’m one of the only grown-ups in a sea of gaming youf. It’s bizarre, really, how people behave. It’s kind of like competing over which toaster is better, when they all make slightly different kinds of toast.

    You pick your platform and you play your games.

    Graphics hardware is a puerile thing to base worth on, too. Base it upon the actual quality of a gaming experience. Whatever you think makes a good gaming experience.

    #67 2 years ago
  68. DSB

    @66 Gosh, I sure hate to barge in on your delusions there, but it’s just a fact.

    The PC isn’t dying, but it’s evolving, and that means going through a transitional phase which will see the PC companies that didn’t hedge their bets on the future die off.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/9601247/PC-market-to-shrink-for-first-time-in-a-decade.html

    Some people talk shit, other people really just look at the numbers. I know who I’d listen to if I was investing.

    And just in case you got insecure there, it’s really not the gaming PC that is dying. It’s largely the modern typewriter/e-mail console that’s being usurped by tablets.

    The reason why that matters is obviously because the companies involved with PC gaming are also the companies involved with providing hardware for the modern typewriter.

    But most people who know what they’re talking about will tell you that it’ll probably be enough to kill off the poorly grounded hardware companies out there.

    Again, it’s simple logic. Less money being spent = Less money being earned. Less money being earned = Fewer businesses. That’s not even economy 101. Even an idiot would understand something like that. You’d think.

    #68 2 years ago
  69. viralshag

    @68, But mods, emulators and indies!!!!

    #69 2 years ago
  70. DSB

    @69 Hah! I love all three, but I don’t kid myself that the rest of the gaming public does. I guess that’s the difference between me and TheWulf.

    It’s not gonna be good for us PC gamers, but the sad fact is that there’s a big difference between a company that’s ready to produce a lot of miniaturized chips for mobile/tablets and a company that isn’t.

    And you just can’t build that capacity overnight. It’s safe to say that AMD is in for a rough ride.

    Ars Technica did a pretty great series of articles on it.

    http://arstechnica.com/business/2013/04/the-rise-and-fall-of-amd-how-an-underdog-stuck-it-to-intel/

    http://arstechnica.com/business/2013/04/amd-on-ropes-from-the-top-of-the-mountain-to-the-deepest-valleys/

    #70 2 years ago
  71. TheWulf

    Wow. I looked back here to write up a post elsewhere. Sometimes it amazes me at how much of an inferiority complex a person is willing to show. How very ready they are to put their pettiness and rage on display. All they’re doing is making troglodytes of themselves.

    Which is appalling and repugnant, honestly. Yay for moral high grounds, which I certainly have a monopoly over in arguments like this. Mostly because I’m not willing to hate someone for their platform choice.

    Good job, those who are. You’re exemplars of our race.

    PC elitists my arse. VG24/7 can be as bad as RPS, except here it’s console elitism. You just can’t get away from the hate and the stupidity, no matter how hard you try.

    #71 2 years ago
  72. DSB

    Would anyone happen to have a really tiny violin? I kinda feel like we need one here.

    #72 2 years ago
  73. Ireland Michael

    “Sometimes it amazes me at how much of an inferiority complex a person is willing to show.”

    Oh, the irony.

    #73 2 years ago
  74. djhazro

    This is news to no one. What Nivida needs to focus on is how they can successfully market their excessively high-priced graphics cards. No matter how much people want to say it’s not, the console market is thriving. The PS4 and Xbox One are selling excellently, and continuing at this rate will be successful for both Microsoft and Sony. The truth is average consumers don’t care about how much a high-end PC can outperform a console. They just want to play good games overall, and as more developers optimize their games to run well on more common hardware, they’re going to care less and less.

    #74 1 year ago
  75. djhazro

    Jesus, Nivida. You act as if graphics are the only thing that matters…

    #75 1 year ago

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    Deus Ex creator Warren Spector seems pretty positive about the direction the sci-fi series has followed under Square Enix’s hand. Deus Ex was created by Spector and his team at Ion Storm, and remained with Eidos after the developer shuttered. When Square Enix purchased the British publisher, it put new studio Eidos Montreal to work […]

  • Protest Goat secures future for Elite Dangerous destruction derbies

    One of the stranger and more beautiful stories to manifest in the gaming world this week, I think. Elite: Dangerous has given birth to an unintended, emergent style of gameplay; a destruction derby like affair where players gather in no combat areas to both race and gleefully smash into each other until a victor limps […]

  • Destiny’s stunning landscapes captured in panoramas

    Destiny has some beautiful environments, which screenshots don’t necessarily do justice to. Walking around Destiny exclaiming over the lighting effects and the tiny animated details is the best way to experience Bungie’s tremendous achievements, but these panorama images stitched together from in-game screenshots are a good second. Click to see them fullsize. Redditor CenturyEagle made […]

  • Star Wars Disney Infinity re-release on the cards – rumour

    Star Wars is a no-brainer for Disney Infinity, and at long last it looks like it’s happening. A Star Wars re-release called Disney Infinity 3.0 has reportedly leaked from German retailers. We have to lable this one a rumour as we haven’t seen the original source, but the story was originally reported by DisKingdom, which […]

  • Award-winning mobile indie Monument Valley out now on Windows Phone

    Windows Phone’s game selection can be a bit restrictive, but has expanded delightfully today: Monument Valley is now available. Monument Valley is one of those gorgeous, mind-bending puzzlers the indie scene produces on the regular, winning awards and consuming everyone’s lives for weeks on end. Developed by Ustwo Games, with beautiful, understated art from Ken […]

  • Old-school EverQuest servers safe from legal troubles thanks to Daybreak agreement

    EverQuest rights holder Daybreak Game Company given its blessing to the wonderful Project 1999. EverQuest: Project 1999 is one of those lovely ideas that it are all too often crushed by the realities of the games industry. An entirely fan-managed affair, it provides an emulated version of the classic EverQuest experience, which is no longer […]

  • Free Dragon Age short stories fill us in on Corypheus’s followers

    Dragon Age: Inquisition developer BioWare invites you to learn more about the lore and characters that make up its beautiful role-playing setting. Dragon Age is set in Thedas, a world still only partially revealed by the three core games to date. BioWare puts a heck of a lot of work into its worldbuilding, employing a […]

  • Remember that gorgeous Luminous Engine tech demo? It now utilizes DirectX 12

    Remember the gorgeous Luminous Engine tech demo Square Enix showed off three years ago? The firm showed it again at Microsoft’s Build Conference, this time utilizing DirectX 12. The Witch Chapter 0 [cry] real-time tech demo was created from research Square conducted using real-time CG technology and DX12 in collaboration with Microsoft and Nvidia. The […]

  • Stealth Inc 2: A Game of Clones sneaks onto GOG and Steam services

    Stealth Inc 2: A Game of Clones can now be purchased through GOG and Steam. On both services it will run you £12.99/€14.99/$14.99. Links here and here. The game features: Fully explorable ‘Metroidvania’ style overworld, laying siege to a diabolical cloning facility with varied and detailed environments. A variety of special equipment to unlock new […]

  • Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare DLC Ascendance has arrived on PC, PlayStation consoles

    Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare players on PC and PlayStation consoles can now download the Ascendance DLC. The second content pack contains the OHM weapon, the OHM Werewolf custom variant, and the second entry in the Exo Zombies saga, Infection. Four new maps are also included: Perplex, Site 244, Climate, and Chop Shop. Ascendance was […]

  • Latest Xbox 360 system update is live, now supports 2TB hard drives

    Xbox 360 now supports 2TB hard drives via the latest system update for the console. Support for the drives was announced earlier this month and has been available for preview members. “In addition we will also no longer reserve space in advance on your hard drive,” said the firm. “If you are using 16GB of […]

  • Kickstarter for Banjo-Kazooie spiritual successor Yooka-Laylee launches tomorrow

    Playtonic Games has announced the Kickstarter campaign for its spiritual successor to the Banjo Kazooie series, Yooka-Laylee, will launch tomorrow. The title of the game was announced today along with the Kickstarter date. Formerly known as Project Ukulele, the 3D platformer is said to be “between the size of Banjo-Kazooie and Banjo-Tooie,” and stars Yooka […]

  • Console version of Mistwalker’s Terra Battle is in development

    Now that Mistwalker’s Terra Battle has surpassed 2 million downloads on mobile, the developer is now working on a console version of the tactical RPG. As part of the original Download Starter campaign, the 2 million milestone means the company will begin development on Terra Battle’s console version with details to be announced at a […]

  • Prison break game The Escapists is heading to PlayStation 4 from May 29

    The Escapists, Mouldy Toof’s prison break game originally released as a timed console exclusive Xbox One, has a release date for PlayStation 4. For those unfamiliar with the title, which is also a PC release, it tasks players’ time management skills as they do a bit of digging and crafting, and other prison-type stuff as […]

  • Dead Island 2 delayed into 2016 to ensure series is “taken to the next level”

    Dead Island 2 has been delayed into 2016 by Yager in order to ensure the sequel “takes Dead Island to the next level.” According to a tweet from the developer, it set “big goal” for the game, and in order to deliver what fans expect, the team needs more time to reach development goals. “We […]

  • Project Cars: here’s a list of all available cars at launch

    Project Cars will contain many, many cars and if we are counting correctly, there will be 74 total at launch. The standard edition contains 65 total, and when factoring the free car as well as the Modified and Limited Edition cars packs, you can add an additional nine cars to the mix. Comb through the […]

  • Competitive matchmaking support is coming to Team Fortress 2

    Team Fortress 2 will soon feature support for competitive matchmaking, which Valve says is a “high priority” project for it at the moment. According to a report from TeamFortress.tv, which visited Valve headquarters recently, Valve is looking into the possibility of 6v6 or 9v9 matches 9v9, a possible quick play option and it is also […]

  • GTA 5 PC patch fixes garage, Job crashes – full notes here

    Rockstar has pushed out a 353 MB patch for GTA 5 on PC The patch fixes a number of annoying bugs related to vehicles and garages, some deathmatch issues and purchase errors. It should also fix various freezing and crashing bugs, as well as a little issue with Steam. Time will tell if the patch […]

  • Fire Emblem If will come in White Kingdom and Black Kingdom versions with amiibo support

    We’ve finally got some juicy details on the next Fire Emblem game, but the most interesting aspect is that there will be two versions of the game. According to Siliconera, who translated an interview between Intelligent Systems and 4Gamer, there will a White Kingdom and a Black Kingdom version that offer different aspects of the […]

  • Deception 4: The Nightmare Princess heads west with “Golden Toilet” pre-order bonus

    Deception 4: The Nightmare Princess will debut on western PlayStation 4 systems this summer, Koei Tecmo has announced. It is also coming to PS3 and Vita. The game was produced by Keisuke Kikuchi of Fatal Frame fame and takes up where Deception 4: Blood Ties left off allowing players to relive Laegrinna’s pursuit to free […]

  • Nintendo US eShop update: Puzzle & Dragons Super Mario demo, Paper Mario, more

    Nintendo has updated the North American end of the eShop with a demo of Puzzle & Dragons Super Mario Bros. Edition, Paper Mario on Virtual Console, and amiibo Tap. The full update is below. eShop update amiibo Tap – free – Wii U Star Wars Pinball DLC – Wii U Paper Mario – Wii U […]

  • Deus Ex: Mankind Divided PC port handed off to Nixxes

    The PC port of the new Deus Ex has been handed over to Netherlands based studio, Nixxes software. After the initial reveal trailer at the beginning of April, we’ve only had a few morsels in the way of additional news. The most intriguing tidbit to date has got to be the fact that you’ll be […]

  • First-ever PC Gaming Show to take place at E3 2015 in June

    PC gaming will finally have its very own E3 press conference this year, thanks to PC Gamer and AMD. The PC Gaming Show will take place on June 16 at the Belasco Theater in Los Angeles and it will be livestreamed on Twitch. PC Gamer said speakers at the presentation will include representatives from Blizzard, […]

  • Majora’s Mask light available now on Club Nintendo for 6000 stars

    Club Nintendo shuts up shop on September 30 and members are being encouraged to spend accumulated stars before then. And what better to spend them on, than this adorable Majora’s Mask light? If you’re a member based in Europe you can nab it for 6000 stars. If you’re in Australia or New Zealand, it’ll only […]

  • Unity support announced for HoloLens, will work with Windows universal apps

    Microsoft is partnering with game engine developers Unity in order to make HoloLens compatible with apps and games which use the cross-platform engine. The partnership was announced yesterday during its Build Developer Conference. Universal apps for Windows 10 systems will also be available on Xbox One later this year, suggesting possible HoloLens functionality with the […]

  • Splatoon Nintendo Direct airs Thursday, May 7

    A Nintendo Direct focused on Splatoon, the Wii U multiplayer title, on May 7. It will kick off at 7am PDT/10am EDT/3pm UK and it can be watched via the Nintendo Direct website. You can also have a look at the game through Nintendo’s Twitch channel. The last game-specific presentation took place last week and […]

  • GTA 5 PC: clean up the streets as a member of the San Andreas PD with this new mod

    Remember the awesome mods for GTA 4 and San Andreas that let you run amok online as a member of the po-po? Well, dust off your taser and load up your gun, because it’s coming to GTA 5. The new mod for GTA 5 is currently in alpha and can be downloaded at palmbeachgames.com. You […]

  • Indie shoot ‘em up Project Root comes to Xbox One, PS4 and PSVita

    Project Root is a self-proclaimed rejig of the shoot ‘em up genre that was released on PC last year, and it’s finally coming to consoles. Combining free-roaming elements with the usual business of shooting things, Project Root was released this week for Xbox One, PS4 and the PSVita.

  • You can now bet on eSports online, starting with League of Legends

    If you’re getting bored with sticking a pony on the races, you can expand your gambling horizons at Unikrn where you can watch esports streams and get a little action on the side. The new platform was set up by Rahul Sood – previously the general manager of Microsoft Ventures. At the moment, customers are […]

  • Has Watch Dogs 2 been leaked?

    Ubisoft employee, Julien Risse, may have inadvertently confirmed Watch Dogs 2, thanks to his online CV over at LinkedIn. Videogamer.com spotted the slip up, in which Risse lists Watch Dogs, the DLC Bad Blood, and Watch Dogs 2 on his profile. Creative Director Jonathan Morin has already talked about his ideas for improvements for the […]

  • GTA 5′s Trevor makes his Jackass debut, complete with leopard-print knickers

    YouTuber Abstract Mode has shared his vision of what Trevor Philips’ life might have been like, had he not been completely batshit crazy. Watch Trevor get mauled, run over, and hit by a train, before taking a majestic swan-dive into someone else’s pool at the climax. Thanks, Kotaku.

  • Call of Duty: Black Ops 3 season pass will cost you £35

    Call of Duty: Black Ops 3 isn’t released until November 6, but you can already hand over your cash for the Season Pass. The Season Pass is available for pre-purchase on Steam for £34.99, and will cover four DLC packs – although the details we have on the content are limited to ‘exciting’ at this […]

  • GTA Online’s cheating assholes are no match for this player’s vengeance

    Think you’re smart for using invisibility and infinite ammo glitches? You need to be taught a lesson, sucker. You can have all the hacks you want but if your GTA Online game is weak, you’ll still get your ass handed to you. As this fool discovered when attempting to hassle another player. There’s a fair […]

  • PS4 sales help Sony’s games division swing to profit

    Sony’s PlayStation business has made an operating profit of 48.1 billion yen ($404m / £261.5m) in the past 12 months. That’s thanks to stellar sales of the PlayStation 4 and PS Plus, even as sales of the PS3 have stalled and the company wrote off costs for the PSTV and PS Vita. The profit puts […]

  • New patch for Dirt Rally gives co-driver’s attitude a tune-up

    Dirt Rally gets a new patch three days after release on Steam. On Monday, we reported that the newest Dirt game has popped up on Steam’s Early Access and is available to pick up for £24.99, as well as giving you an eyeful of tasty screenshots. The patch – released yesterday – fixes some issues […]

  • New The Witcher 3 screenshots show combat, exploration and general carousing

    New screenshots released on the official facebook page for The Witcher 3 show Geralt annihilating a winged beast, out and about in the world exploring, and living the life of Reily amidst a bustling feast. We were already treated to some glorious screenshots a few days ago, but these new ones are in-game and give […]

  • Destiny: 14 things you might have missed during House of Wolves intel drops

    Destiny: House of Wolves does a great deal more than just slap some new content on the existing game structure. House of Wolves changes Destiny in a lot of interesting and very welcome ways. Bungie showed off many of these changes in its livestream, and let both me and Arekkz come and have a look […]

  • Scratch that cyberpunk itch with Technobabylon on May 21 – new trailer

    Technobabylon more like Wrecked-yo-babbling with my smooth flow about how good Wadjet Eye games are. I don’t know y’all, it’s clock off time and everything feels like a reach. Wadjet Eye makes pretty good adventure games – award winning, in fact. The latest project to spring forth from the benevolent, sheltering hand of the label […]

  • Skullgirls 2nd Encore brings exclusive new features to PS4, Vita in northern summer

    Skullgirls, the little indie fighter that could, is getting another crack at it. Skullgirls 2nd Encore is the second re-release of the one-time troubled 2D versus fighter from lab Zero Games. Having survived the shut down of its developer and collapse of its publishing contrast, Skullgirls re-emerged as Skullgirls: Encore, adding in a ton of […]

  • Danganronpa series generates “impressive” sales for Vita exclusive

    Danganronpa is selling quite nicely, thank you, says NIS America. Danganronpa is a series of murder mystery visual novel puzzlers in a similar vein to games like 999. Two of these have been released for Vita in the west – Trigger Happy Havoc and Goodbye Despair. Speaking to MCV, NIS America CEO and president Takuro […]

  • I have no idea what is going on in J-Stars Victory VS+ but I kind of like it

    In this J-Stars Victory VS+ trailer, we see – uhh. Well. We certainly see some things. Look y’all, I was a massive weaboo in high school, but that was back in the dark ages when we had to take out Manga Entertainment VHS tapes from dingy little specialist rental joints that were literally underground, and […]

  • Please just watch this terrific trailer for Toren

    Toren is the kind of game I dream about when I drift off to sleep at night. This indie puzzle adventure strikes a spark in my little soul in the same way as Ico and Tequila Works’ Rime do. Mysterious, almost ethereal fantasy setting – check. Chance to actually walk around in that setting – […]

  • Play classic MS-DOS games on your own tweets

    In today’s episode of “what will they think of next”, someone’s figured out how to post playable versions of classic games in tweets. For some time now, Twitter has allowed you to embed various forms of media in tweets, most noticeably YouTube videos, simply by pasting a URL into the compose field. Turns out this […]

  • VR: Unreal Engine to add HTC Vive support

    The biggest digital PC game distributor and the most popular game development engine have both backed VR. It’s going to happen. An upcoming Unreal Engine 4 update will expand the development suite’s support to the HTC Vive, Valve’s VR headset. In this glorious new future where work on one of the most important engines in […]

  • WWE 2K15 PC supports modding

    WWE 2K15 may be the series’ PC debut, but it’s already getting into the spirit of the platform. WWE 2K15 does indeed support mods on PC, 2K’s Marcus Stephenson has confirmed. @ElementGamesTV you can. Now buy. — Marcus Stephenson (@stephensonmc) April 28, 2015 As Destructoid points out, this opens the door to all sorts of […]

  • Overkill’s The Walking Dead coming to PC, PS4 and Xbox One in 2016

    Overkill’s The Walking Dead is one step closer to your grasping little paws. Overkill’s The Walking Dead will be published by 505 Games, Overkill parent Starbreeze has announced. 505 also published Payday 2, Overkill’s previous title, so the two companies have established a working relationship. In a press release, the publisher said the co-op title […]

  • Call of Duty: Black Ops 3 pre-orders net Advanced Warfare DLC

    Buy Call of Duty: Black Ops 3 for later, enjoy bonus Advanced Warfare content now. Blacks Ops 3 is being supported by a rather cunning pre-order incentive even more likely to get you to lay your cash down sooner than you might otherwise. Gamespot reports a Black Ops 3 pre-order will receive a couple of […]

  • Steam Game Ban system lets developers determine who to block

    Steam users can now be blocked from individual games by their developers. Steam has always supported multiplayer bans for disruptive users, but a newly-implemented system allows developers to ban users from individual games using their own anti-cheat systems. Game Bans are enforced by Valve, but are enacted at the developer’s request and discretion. This change […]

  • Far Cry 4 devs matching Red Cross donations up to $100K to aid Nepal earthquake victims

    Far Cry 4 developer Ubisoft Montreal will match any pledges made to The Red Cross up to $100,000 to aid Nepal after the 7.8 earthquake struck the area in and around Kathmandu in Nepal. According to Ubisoft: “Having spent the last few years working on Far Cry 4, a game heavily inspired by Nepal and […]

  • Tales of Zestiria retail listing notes September release date, PS4 version

    Tales of Zestiria is coming west in northern autumn, and while it’s confirmed as a PlayStation 3 release, a Dutch retailer has it listed as coming to PS4 as well. Of course, listing it for PS4 could also be a typo, not that I would personally know about that sort of thing, really. However, according […]

  • Official mod tools for Total War: Attila are now available

    Official mod tools for Total War: Attila are now available and you can grab the new Assembly Kit as a beta through the tools menu via your Steam library. The Creative Assembly said the tools will be “immediately familiar” to modders of Rome 2 and Shogun 2, but the new version is the most “extensive” […]

  • How to get level 34 Ascended Raid gear in Destiny: House of Wolves

    Watch: two videos showing you how to get level 34 raid gear and a shopping list of what you need. One of the big changes that House of Wolves is bringing to Destiny is the chance to upgrade your weapons and gear to level 34. In these videos Arekkz Gaming shows you how to use […]

  • Destiny: House of Wolves puts PvP back in the spotlight

    Destiny PvP players, your time has come to shine. New Crucible maps. New Crucible rewards. And the glorious wonder of Elimination mode. Destiny: House of Wolves puts PvP front and centre. When Destiny was first detailed, one of the things Bungie stressed was that there’d be something for everyone. If you wanted to play solo […]

  • Destiny: Trials of Osiris – everything you need to know in one video

    The Destiny: House of Wolves embargo has lifted, and with so much information floating around pertaining to Trials of Osiris, it can be overwhelming. Thankfully, Arekkz Gaming tells you everything you need to know in one video. In the video above you will be informed of how the 3v3 Team Deathmatch event works, how you […]

  • Destiny: House of Wolves – watch a Trials of Osiris match from start to finish

    With the release of Destiny: House of Wolves looming, players will soon be able to participate in the new 3v3 Team Deathmatch event in The Crucible, Trials of Osiris. Below is a video featuring an uncut, complete match from start to finish. In the video, Arekkz Gaming gives you a breakdown of the mode and […]

  • Wolfenstein: The Old Blood – here’s what your PC needs in order to run it

    Wolfenstein: The Old Blood is out next week, and Bethesda has today released the PC specs for the standalone title. MachineGames has made some tweaks to the system requirements and have included both minimum and recommended specifications. Minimum OS: 64-bit Windows 7/Windows 8 Processor: Intel Core i5-2500 @ 3.3 GHz / AMD FX-8320 @ 3.5 […]

  • Destiny: Trials of Osiris – watch the livestream reveal right here

    Bungie will be showing off Destiny’s new 3v3 Team Deatmatch Trials of Osiris today, and you can watch the Twitch stream right here if you like. It kicks off at 11am PDT/2pm EDT and will feature community manager Deej and design leads Lars Bakken and Derek Carroll. More will be revealed on House of Wolves […]

  • May Xbox Games with Gold: Mafia 2, CastleStorm: Definitive Edition, F1 2013

    Microsoft has announced the free games Gold members will be able to pick up through Xbox Live. On Xbox One, Gold users can download CastleStorm: Definitive Edition for the month,and Pool Nation FX is being offered for an additional month. Starting May 1, Xbox 360 Gold members can download Mafia 2 through May 15, and […]