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Valve to make first Steam announcement today at 6pm UK, 7pm EU

Friday, 20th September 2013 18:00 GMT By Staff

Valve has announced that today it will be “talking about the steps” it’s taking to make Steam more accessible on televisions and in the living room.

According to the firm, it has three announcements to make beginning with the first one dropping today, at 6pm UK / 7pm Europe.

The announcements will be posted here, and we will report on it in full as it drops.

The splash pages says: “The Steam Universe is Expanding in 2014,” so expect something interesting.

Gabe Newell said earlier this week at Linuxcon 2013 that announcements would be coming, so the notice today backs his comments up.

During the event, Newell said Valve was looking to the more open platform of Linux as the future of gaming, as “none of the propriety closed platforms are going to be able to provide,” a grand unification between “mobile, the living room, and the desktop.”

“Next week we’re going to be rolling out more information about how we get there and what are the hardware opportunities that we see for bringing Linux into the living room and potentially pointing further down the road to how we can get it even more unified with mobile,” he said.

In other words, watch this space on todayMonday, September 23.

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  1. hives

    Jesus, okay, I know I’m paranoid… 3… Three…

    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

    But seriously, I wonder.

    1. Steambox, obviously.
    2. Some sort of controller. Maybe.
    3. ???

    #1 7 months ago
  2. Edo

    Three announcements…in three days!?Come on Gabe….at least give us a challenge….Half-Life 3 confirmed :)!!

    #2 7 months ago
  3. Djoenz

    Steambox!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    #3 7 months ago
  4. super3001

    l4d3 for xone would be great

    #4 7 months ago
  5. Dark

    L4D 3 exclusive for steambox.

    #5 7 months ago
  6. pcbros

    My guess is…

    1) Steambox announcement

    2) Steambox details

    3) Steam Linux distro

    Either way, I’m super hyped! Perfect timing too. I want to know what they have planned before I consider buying any console.

    EDIT: Remember it’s three announcements pertaining to their “living room” expansion. I doubt it will be any game announcement, unless they go Steambox exclusive.

    #6 7 months ago
  7. Gheritt White

    REAL-LIFE PORTAL TECH!

    #7 7 months ago
  8. Stephany Nunneley

    I have to say I am, personally, rather excited. PC gaming on my 52 inch! Hellz yeah boyz. Sorry. I’ll stop.

    #8 7 months ago
  9. Gheritt White

    @8: That’s funny, that’s what one of my socially astute friends says about my penis.

    #9 7 months ago
  10. Stephany Nunneley

    @9 LOL! :D :D

    #10 7 months ago
  11. pcbros

    @8 – Time to make PC gaming a little more accesible. The more I think about it, the more I see the following happening…

    1. Valve announces their games will be Steambox (PC) exclusives.

    2. Steambox will set a benchmark standard from which PC developers will use when creating their games. Forcing developers to optimize PC hardware (like they do on consoles) and not rely on brute force like $1k Titans to push their games.

    3. You will be able to buy a game on Steam and run it on your mobile phone, tablet, desktop and TV.

    #11 7 months ago
  12. Djoenz

    Yeah while you at it go think about what you can do to yourself if most of your predictions are off.

    I can make a list out of my ass too lmao…..

    #12 7 months ago
  13. TheWulf

    @12

    Actually, it makes a lot of sense, if you’ve been paying attention.

    Gabe has been talking up Linux for a long time, now. And he’s been talking about how consoles are so troubled because they’re closed platforms. And take a guess which two topics he recently brought up at a Linux con, which he was speaking for?

    He pretty much wants to make a new standard for the PC, one that can have a console-esque variant, and one where games developers are free from Windows once and for all. I wouldn’t put it past Valve to even have a Linux variant of DirectX (which is DX compatible) in development.

    Gabe is serious about this, he wants to change everything. I think he’s in a good position to do it, too.

    Anyone can cynically snark, but as I said, if you’re paying attention it actually makes a lot of sense. You should look into it and do some research for yourself. All snark says about you is that you have an inferiority complex, and you feel threatened by this.

    Stick your head in the sand all you like, but Gabe’s going to shift some paradigms within his lifetime.

    #13 7 months ago
  14. Djoenz

    @TheWUlf

    That may be so, but I dont need to see Pcbros summing up his assumptions. Once its cool, but twice is just over the top.

    #14 7 months ago
  15. sebastien rivas

    As a joke I would say
    1) support Nintendo, xbox One and PS4 and PC, and Mac, and Linux games via DL.
    2) You can add Nintendo, Xbox one, PS4, PC, and mac, and linux controllers and works natively.
    3) You can mod your own Steambox.

    Now a bit more seriously,
    @13 I agree with you, +1 man

    #15 7 months ago
  16. Max Payne

    If ubisoft can have Uplay on consoles probobaly Valve can have steam also ?

    #16 7 months ago
  17. DSB

    1. Buying Microsoft
    2. Buying Sony
    3. Announcing the Playbox Fourteen

    #17 7 months ago
  18. pcbros

    @14 – It’s way more productive to just criticize other people’s comments instead of offering your own predictions.

    I rather read about what people think Valve is planning…

    #18 7 months ago
  19. sebastien rivas

    @14
    @13 actually brought the most logic and perhaps the best informed post out of all of us.
    What is wrong with that?

    #19 7 months ago
  20. Phoenixblight

    People need to check their expectations at the door.

    1) Linux will never be the norm even now with Steam now supporting Linux how many games have actually supported Linux? Less than 5% and good luck with triple A developers making a Linux port. So what will Valve do with the catalog of games? Every single game they port to Linux themselves? Maybe give money to developers to port games to Linux even though its less than 5% of the PC space?

    2) Valve doesn’t have manufacturing power or even space for themselves to make a console or any type of console-esque device.

    3) Valve fired all of their hardware division.

    People are blowing this way out of proportion.

    #20 7 months ago
  21. pcbros

    @20 – “Linux will never be the norm”

    When the Android OS was in development, who would have thought it could compete and to some extent, over throw the iOS?

    “Valve doesn’t have manufacturing power”

    Does Valve actually have to directly manufacture the hardware? Why can’t they have other companies like Dell, HP, Toshiba, Samsung, etc. make Steamboxes? Google doesn’t manufacture all Android devices.

    I think Valve’s big hurdle will be getting third-party developers to “trust” in this product and create games. But I think Steam has such a successful history, that it shouldn’t be such a big problem.

    At this point, the best move would be to make their popular games exclusive to the Steambox. This would attract gamers and sell Steamboxes.

    #21 7 months ago
  22. Phoenixblight

    @21

    “When the Android OS was in development, who would have thought it could compete and to some extent, over throw the iOS?”

    Google nuff said. They have a lot more money than Valve and put their entire effort into creating an OS. I knew they would overthrow Apple because the entire Mobile OS market was fragmented unless you went with iOS.

    “Google doesn’t manufacture all Android devices.”
    Oh I dunno the fact they bought Motorola for 13 billion and license their Android OS to other 3rd party companies.

    Stop using Google. Valve would be the little leagues compared to Google. Would be like comparing Ouya to Samsung.

    Google is worth 250+ BILLION dollars, Valve is worth 3+ BILLION.

    Linux has been in the market for 30+ years and the only time it had hit its peak was when MS had Vista even then it didn’t get pass 10% of the OS space. Valve would have spent most of its fortune to get Linux standardized(which defeats the entire point of Linux) to then compete with Apple and Windows to worthy enough for anyone to pick up. As I said in a previous thread its far more likely of Google making OS in the PC space for anyone to pick up then Valve. Their Source engine was taken from ID and the only thing they have made themselves is the Steam platform outside of that space no one knows or cares about them.

    #22 7 months ago
  23. Edo

    I wish Valve succeeds in their endeavour just to make him shut the fuck up once and for all!

    #23 7 months ago
  24. pcbros

    @22 – “Google nuff said. They have a lot more money than Valve and put their entire effort into creating an OS.”

    Then why is the Chromebook such a flop? Just because a company has money or “puts their entire effort” into something doesn’t automatically equal success.

    “Oh I dunno the fact they bought Motorola for 13 billion and license their Android OS to other 3rd party companies.”

    I said Google doesn’t manufacture ALL Android devices. Google licensed Android to other companies. Which is the reason why Android has become so popular. What we have is practically Apple vs HP, Toshiba, Samsung, Motorola, HTC, Asus and Acer. It’s the whole IBM-compatibles vs Apple all over again.

    So couldn’t Valve license their technology to other manufacturers too?

    “Stop using Google. Valve would be the little leagues compared to Google. Would be like comparing Ouya to Samsung.

    Not quite. Ouya has no history and no proven success. It’s a virgin product. Valve has released several highly successful games to the market and they created Steam, arguably the BEST platform for playing PC games. Hate to break it to you, but when it comes to the games industry, Valve is in the major leagues while Google is in the minor leagues.

    “Linux has been in the market for 30+ years and the only time it had hit its peak was when MS had Vista even then it didn’t get pass 10% of the OS space. Valve would have spent most of its fortune to get Linux standardized(which defeats the entire point of Linux).

    First of all, Valve is not trying to standardize Linux. They are using it. Second, who cares how popular Linux is right now? Sony is using the FreeBSD OS on the Playstation 4. How popular is the FreeBSD OS? I’m sure 85% of the people here have never even heard of it. It proves that developers will create games for any platform that has a potential market (which equals potential profits). Like I’ve said before, the OS used matters zero.

    “As I said in a previous thread its far more likely of Google making OS in the PC space for anyone to pick up then Valve.”

    Google tried to make an OS (Chrome OS) and it’s pretty lame. It’s basically a browser based OS that uses only web-based products like Google Drive, Google Docs, etc.

    I guess having lots of money and putting their “entire efforts” into Chrome OS didn’t equal success… how odd.

    And here’s one last detail you might find interesting…

    “Built on a Linux kernel, Chrome OS shares many of its performance attributes with Ubuntu, yet lacks the control Ubuntu gives you over its controls.” (Toms Hardware)

    Even Google used Linux for their OS…

    #24 7 months ago
  25. Phoenixblight

    @24

    “Then why is the Chromebook such a flop? Just because a company has money or “puts their entire effort” into something doesn’t automatically equal success.”

    Wasn’t talking about Chromebook, I was talking about Android as were you. Nice in switching the subject there. Speaking of Chromebook I actually own one and I have to say it is by far the best OS for what it does and has less of a footprint than the other OS. But that is beside the point.

    http://www.techradar.com/us/news/software/operating-systems/why-google-s-chrome-os-will-be-a-success-1157288

    http://www.crn.com/news/mobility/240158044/googles-chromebook-success-bucks-pc-slump.htm

    “Not quite. Ouya has no history and no proven success. It’s a virgin product. Valve has released several highly successful games to the market and they created Steam, arguably the BEST platform for playing PC games. Hate to break it to you, but when it comes to the games industry, Valve is in the major leagues while Google is in the minor leagues.”

    Valve games haven’t hit the success of COD, Rockstar games, and Madden. Portal series only hit 3 million on the console space and their products have gone on multiple sales for 5$ multiple times so if you are suggesting that their games are worth an exclusive console launch you would be mistaken.

    “First of all, Valve is not trying to standardize Linux. They are using it. ”

    Yeah and SOny, MS put in billions of dollars into their R&D of their machines which Valve can’t do with the lack of manpower and revenue especially since they fired their hardware division. Valve would have to figure out how to play its current catalog of games on to a linux based machine. SOmething you still haven’t even acknowledged. They aren’t going to port all those games to linux and they don’t have money to money hat triple A developers to care.

    The only thing I can foresee happening is the device streams games from your PC to local machines(TV,mobile,tablet). Valve doesn’t have weight outside the PC space to become a MS, Sony, Nintendo.

    “”Built on a Linux kernel, Chrome OS shares many of its performance attributes with Ubuntu, yet lacks the control Ubuntu gives you over its controls.” (Toms Hardware)

    Even Google used Linux for their OS…”

    I know this again, Google has the manpower and resources to make their own OS. Valve does not.

    #25 7 months ago
  26. AngryConsumer

    my guess is…

    1) the announcement of the shutdown of steam
    2) the announcement of steambox not gonna be made
    3) the announcement of gabe newell retirement

    #26 7 months ago
  27. pcbros

    @25 – “Wasn’t talking about Chromebook, I was talking about Android as were you. Nice in switching the subject there. Speaking of Chromebook I actually own one and I have to say it is by far the best OS for what it does and has less of a footprint than the other OS. But that is beside the point.

    Lots of people say they think Linux is the best OS. But my point was, whether it’s Android or Chromebook, that having lots of money (as you said) doesn’t automatically equal a successful product.

    “Valve games haven’t hit the success of COD, Rockstar games, and Madden. Portal series only hit 3 million on the console space and their products have gone on multiple sales for 5$ multiple times so if you are suggesting that their games are worth an exclusive console launch you would be mistaken.”

    Who cares about console space? The Steambox is targeting the console and PC space. Say what you want, but at least in the PC world, Valve makes high quality games that people enjoy. And the fact PS3 fans were asking for L4D shows they like their games too.

    Also, why did you use Portal as the product to compare sales (Portal was a student project)? Why not talk about Left4Dead sales?

    Using your theory, no one should buy an XB1 or PS4… because I doubt Knack, Forza 5, Killzone and Ryse will have the same success as COD or GTA.

    “The only thing I can foresee happening is the device streams games from your PC to local machines(TV,mobile,tablet). Valve doesn’t have weight outside the PC space to become a MS, Sony, Nintendo.”

    They could implement a streaming technology to get the entire Steam library playable (a point you questioned before). Sony is using streaming technology to acquire PS3 backwards compatibility. And maybe the Linux side of things will be used to play indie games (without streaming). That is an option.

    “Google has the manpower and resources to make their own OS. Valve does not.”

    Google did not make their OWN operating system (it’s built on Linux). And newsflash, anyone can make a Linux distro, you don’t need money. So I don’t see how Valve couldn’t make one.

    #27 7 months ago
  28. antraxsuicide

    No chance of a successful Steam box. There are only 2 possibilities:
    1) Games on Steam box are also available on Steam PC. Then no one will spend the money on the Steam box, because EVERY. SINGLE. Steam fan is on PC. It’s a PC platform that’s free to download.

    2) Games on Steam box are exclusive (No PC release). Then 100% of the Steam user base is pissed, so no sales.

    #28 7 months ago
  29. pcbros

    @28 – 1) Steambox is not competing with the PC. Like the article states…

    Valve wants “a grand unification between ‘mobile, the living room, and the desktop.’”

    – Steambox = living room
    – PC = desktop
    – ??? = mobile

    2) Valve’s games will not be exclusive to Steambox. I think they will be exclusive to Steam (no console releases).

    The Steambox will not compete with the PC. I think it will be a way to attract people to PC gaming. Unless the Steambox becomes a “Streambox”, I think it will be an affordable, simplified PC gaming solution designed to be in the living room.

    #29 7 months ago
  30. DSB

    A Streambox definitely wouldn’t be succesful. The tech isn’t good enough.

    It has to be a value proposition, otherwise it’s gonna fall flat, and I’m pretty sure Valve has to be aware of that. That has to be why they dumped the Xi3 like a bad habit.

    If the choice is between a walled garden with limited functionality, tied to a hardware owner that wants to set their own prices and squeeze money out of people for basic online services, and a cheap living room meta-PC offering people cheap games, and choice in where they buy them, then I don’t see how that wouldn’t attract somebody.

    The target obviously won’t be fanboys. It would likely be people who want to save money, people who want choice, and people who can’t be arsed to fuck with HDMI cables and streaming just to get their PC on their TV.

    #30 7 months ago
  31. nollie4545

    As above, totally agree. Now the next gen consoles are arriving, and they are expensive and crap, the time is ripe to launch a PC in a box type system which will give people 90% of the experience of a PC but without the worries about which wire goes were. Do I have to buy a monitor? And I can’t use a keyboard there are too many buttons; hence giving console faggots another option rather than bitch about Sony and MS or MS and Sony.

    It is worth noting that 99% of the games on Steam do not belong to Valve, all it is an all in one digital marketplace and community.

    I am sure Valve’s hardware will be pretty simple, it won’t aim to replace a PC, why would they turn their back on their own marketplace? Of course its designed to tempt other people to the world of PC.

    I don’t see Valve forcing all developers to meet some common PC standard, Valve might be big but they can’t boss every other developer in the world around.

    Of course they will run Linus or a lightweight OS. They will try to make all games relesed on Steam compatible with this same OS.

    PC games all have minimum standards for hardware. It is BECAUSE developers are trying to cater for high end rigs that they include quality pre-sets which require a Titan to run nicely. You won’t ever stop developers trying to push hardware boundaries, they rely on this tech to sell their next game. This is where consoles do the gaming universe as a whole no favours, because there is no performance envelope to push- all consoles run the same modest hardware, therefore to develop a game solely for console and try to make it so intense it red ring of deaths everyone is pointless.

    #31 7 months ago
  32. DSB

    It’s a good time for it. People are open to new devices. Remember when tablets started coming out?

    “Who wants an oversized smartphone that doesn’t make calls?!”

    Well, right now the oversized smartphone that no one wanted is strangling the PC companies that didn’t get on the train.

    #32 7 months ago
  33. pcbros

    @30, @31 – I personally agree with both of you.

    But the Steambox can’t be too cheap of a PC. I think it has to be capable of running modern games to succeed.

    I personally can’t wait for Monday. I’ve been a big fan of Steam for a long time and I’m really looking forward to seeing what’s next :)

    #33 7 months ago
  34. nollie4545

    What makes me a bit sad is to read comments from idiot people who claim to be gamers, which basically take the same tired form of:

    -this new device/game/os/developer/company is gonna be shit, won’t sell, commercial flop etc etc etc.

    Seriously, as a consumer, how can MORE CHOICE in the marketplace be a bad thing? Are you that used to being gang-raped by MS or Sony or whoever that you can’t possibly entertain the thought of cheating on your sugar-daddy by even thinking about buying someone elses product?

    In the motoring world MS and Sony fan boys would be the equivalent of Ford fans and Volkswagen fans. Two groups of idiots arguing over products which are near identical save for the badges.

    Get a fucking life the lot of you.

    #34 7 months ago
  35. DSB

    @33 There’s definitely reason to be skeptical. I’d be very surprised if Valve are announcing an actual product in any of these announcements.

    Likely it’s just steps being taken towards it.

    They need to keep the cost of a box way down, and they need to make games run on it. That’s not easy at all.

    Quality and price are proportionate, so it’s gonna be a hell of a task to make an Xbox One or Playstation 4 cheaper than Microsoft or Sony.

    They’ll need to work some magic for all of that to come together.

    @34 Well, look at the Ouya, the 3DO and the Dreamcast. A console is easily smothered by its own ambition, and Valve are obviously trying to do something that’s perceived as nearly impossible here.

    It’s gonna be very interesting to see. If it works, you’re looking at an “open” console that’ll likely change gaming for good, and if it fails, then you’ll just have another piece of ignored hardware on the market.

    #35 7 months ago
  36. pcbros

    @31 – “I don’t see Valve forcing all developers to meet some common PC standard, Valve might be big but they can’t boss every other developer in the world around.”

    They definitely can’t force them. But if the Steambox becomes popular and it’s running lets say a GTX660… developers naturally will try to cater to that level of power. If they make a game that requires a GTX780 for example, then they just slashed their profits.

    In reality, unless you have money to spare, no PC gamer enjoys having to upgrade their video card every other year. There needs to be some kind of control.

    @35 – What do you think of them licensing the “Steambox” to other companies like Toshiba and HP?

    We could theoretically have Steambox-compatible devices (a la IBM and Android).

    I don’t think they will show the Steambox itself, but I think we should atleast get an announcement confirming the Steambox in one of those days.

    #36 7 months ago
  37. nollie4545

    Fair enough, many have tried and most have failed. But then if a company launches something, and it fails, what have we lost, as consumers? Nothing at all.

    If Valve can put a PC in a box and make it out perform these next gen consoles, and retail it for around £400-500, with their own controller, they’ll be laughing. No doubt they will do a deal with a couple of publishers and offer some big name games at serious discounts to those who buy the console, so the sticker price might not seem to terrible once you factor in a few big name games for half the cost the console boys will pay- thats £75 straight away for 3 titles. And of course publishers will lap it up- more sales and not through the claws of MS or Sony who no doubt put a fair margin on top.

    Throw in Occulus rift support and you’ve killed the PS4 and Xbox right there.

    #37 7 months ago
  38. nollie4545

    Developers don’t have to cater for any level of power. They have legions of data from services like steam and they know what poke the average PC has. So long as you cover that base, then you can add in all the goodies and quality Pre-sets you like to cater for the enthusiast end of the market.

    The fact is that you can’t just magically make games run fast on lower end hardware whilst having 16X AF and X4 MSAA, that shit takes horsepower, and this is where high end hardware comes in. You can’t just magically make a game run with software alone.

    Nearly every title I’ve ever played on PC will run fine on modest settings on modest hardware and STILL look better than the same title on a console. Where is the problem??

    #38 7 months ago
  39. DrDamn

    I think to be a serious proposition Valve would need to bet the farm on it, and I don’t think they will do that. I have a feeling it will end up being something to complement a PC rather than replace or be instead of. Streaming content nicely from your home network whilst supporting smaller titles natively in Linux. (Someone else picked up on streaming above PB? Just got it from the wording from Gabe).

    It would be nice if it was something more impactful, but I don’t think it will be. Next year Apple, Google or both will turn up with something which will cause more waves I think.

    #39 7 months ago
  40. DSB

    @36 There are just so many things that Valve still need to prove before we ever get to that point.

    I mean, you’ll never get a bunch of hardware companies to compete on making their own Steamboxes unless you prove that there’s a healthy market for them first.

    But if you could… Man, how awesome would that be?

    Competition = Better prices, higher product diversity, and everybody scrambling to make the best Steambox they can possibly make.

    That would be very good for gamers.

    #40 7 months ago
  41. pcbros

    @38 – Good point. I actually have a PC with a Athlon 64 4400 (single-core)and 9600GT. And it can run most games around 30fps (except for a few high-end games).

    @39 – For all we know, maybe Valve struck a deal with Onlive :)

    #41 7 months ago
  42. Dragon246

    I will just put this here-
    MS – $250 billion+
    Google – also $250b+
    Sony – $30b+ (assets worth $150b+)
    Hell, ninty- $10b+

    Valve?- $3b

    I know steambox is supposedly the fantasy of many here, but just keep your expectations on check. Valve isn’t going to take anything significant away from this above mentioned companies.
    Just read Phoenix’s comments. Makes perfect sense.

    Valve just cant compete. Neither in hardware prices, nor in software, nor in hardware, nowhere.
    One more thing, does anyone here really think Valve is even a “brand”? I am sure hardly anyone outside of gaming community will even know who they are.
    And, physical sales still are very strong, only digital console just can’t match the sales of profits of “traditional” consoles. And game stores wont have any reason to sell steambox, since they know it doesn’t have physical software.

    #42 7 months ago
  43. nollie4545

    The way I see it, this has to be a major idea of theirs, my gut feels is that its not an add on to your PC. Valve are cash rich, and in a unique position in the PC world. I think it is going to be a standardised PC in a box which looks, acts and plays like a console and for console money. They know its going to be overshadowed in the two next gen consoles so it will be a slow start type release. Maybe a deal with some of the hardware makers, maybe samsung to build it and say google for the OS. All serviced through the steam marketplace. Makes sense to me.

    #43 7 months ago
  44. nollie4545

    I don’t think posting company market values or net present values or total sales or turnover to date means jack shit to be honest. Of course Valve can compete on price- without exception EVERY game I have purchased recently is cheaper on steam than it would have been for a console fan boy.

    #44 7 months ago
  45. pcbros

    @43 – If Valve licenses the Steambox to other PC manufactures (HP, Toshiba, etc), it could easily compete with Microsoft and Sony.

    @45 – Steam could equal a better value overall for consumers in the long run. Also investing in Steam means you a buy a game ONCE. No need to invest in a library of games that might not be backwards compatible the next-generation.

    #45 7 months ago
  46. DSB

    @43 The world doesn’t start and end with Gamestop. Plenty of stores are stocking electronics even though they won’t see much of a tail on any of it.

    It’s not hurting their sales, and besides I’m pretty sure it’s cheaper to just order online anyway. It would definitely be stocked at Amazon.

    #46 7 months ago
  47. DrDamn

    If they rely on other to make and sell boxes for them to a defined minimum spec then that’s going to cause it’s own problems. The manufacturers will want to make a profit on each box and any variation in hardware starts removing fixed platform advantages. So hardware which can compete on a technical level with X1/PS4 will be more expensive. (Though they would save by having no disc drive).

    Maybe a deal with a single manufacturer? Samsung or LG maybe?

    #47 7 months ago
  48. pcbros

    @43 – “And, physical sales still are very strong, only digital console just can’t match the sales of profits of “traditional” consoles. And game stores wont have any reason to sell steambox, since they know it doesn’t have physical software.”

    Android and iOS do not use physical software and from the looks of it, they have taken a huge chunk of the traditional portable market.

    #48 7 months ago
  49. DSB

    @48 Spot on. But the really damning bit is that there’s no way a Steambox is going to be produced in the same volume as either the PS4 or the Xbox One, so there’s no way they’ll get the same sweet deal on hardware.

    At least unless they do some truly epic negotiating.

    On the plus side, you’re really not dealing with a lot of new technology. Everything is pretty much there, so putting a thousand bodies to work trying to make a bog standard PC small and cheap would really be pretty silly.

    The real problem is software. Linux won’t be easy to wrangle.

    #49 7 months ago
  50. pcbros

    @50 – It’s obvious that Windows is the preffered OS for Steam at the momment. But for Valve to push Linux (the smallest of the supported operating systems), they must have something up their sleeves. If they go from a library that’s thousands strong (Windows) to a small library in the hundreds (Linux), that would be a disaster.

    #50 7 months ago
  51. DrDamn

    @51
    Another reason I think streaming is part of this.

    #51 7 months ago
  52. redwood

    1-out in 2014
    2-$ 399
    3-Half life 3 exclusive

    #52 7 months ago
  53. pcbros

    I wonder if there is any chance the Steambox could be a like the Vita TV, where you basically stream your PC gaming to your TV.

    #53 7 months ago
  54. DrDamn

    @52
    3 – would never happen. That would screw over their entire fanbase unless they bought a SteamBox. HL3 available – yes, exclusive – never gonna happen. It’s not enough of a draw for people who are non-PC gamers anyway.

    #54 7 months ago
  55. DSB

    There would be no reason to play around with Linux if all you were making was a Streambox though.

    I think Valve has to know that that’s DOA. There are companies out there who are way ahead of them, and it’s not even remotely a new idea.

    #55 7 months ago
  56. pcbros

    @54 – Half-Life was always a PC exclusive. They eventually brought out Orange Box to the 360. But the true fanbase is PC, not console.

    Also, Halo 1 & 2 were released on PC, then every other Halo become a Xbox 360 exclusive… Microsoft had no problem “screwing” their PC fanbase.

    If the Steambox is indeed a PC in a box and not a streaming device, I don’t see how L4D, HL and Portal won’t all be exclusives.

    It’s like Nintendo and Sony deciding to release their first-party games to PC. It just wouldn’t make any sense.

    #56 7 months ago
  57. Fin

    @56

    Nope, Half-Life came out on PS2. There was also a Dreamcast port, but it was pulled at the very last second.

    #57 7 months ago
  58. DSB

    @54 Exclusives are mostly an issue for fanboys though, and they’re not about to be swayed by a Steambox anyway. Obviously a Steambox would be trying to remind the average Joe that he mostly plays multiplats anyway.

    You can get your CoD, Assassins Creed, and GTA on the PC.

    The EA sportsgames are really missing, but that’s pretty much it.

    #58 7 months ago
  59. DrDamn

    @56
    My point was they wouldn’t make it SteamBox exclusive – i.e. not available to play on Windows PCs.

    #59 7 months ago
  60. DSB

    @59 Oh right, of course not. That would defeat their own stated intent.

    They also wouldn’t tie the box to Steam, so if you wanted to use your Steambox to play Origin games – Fair game.

    #60 7 months ago
  61. pcbros

    #60 – It would be odd to see a Steambox playing Origin games though.

    Either way, in about 5 hours we should know a little more :)

    #61 7 months ago
  62. Dave Cook

    @56

    “It’s like Nintendo and Sony deciding to release their first-party games to PC. It just wouldn’t make any sense.”

    Makes perfect sense. More formats = more money. Yoshida just said last week that he wants to see PS games streamed on PC, mobile and tablets via Gaikai.

    #62 7 months ago
  63. DSB

    @61 The kicker is Linux though.

    Valve don’t have to make it a walled garden, they just have to make their Linux incompatible with the games currently on Origin. Then it’s EAs own fault for not keeping up.

    But Newell would be a hypocrite to lock down the box. The whole purpose of the Steambox is to prove that open is better, and eliminate the walled garden in the console space.

    And it’s not a stupid idea. Would Windows be able to succeed as a walled garden? If you buy Windows today, you have the whole world at your fingertips, and that ultimately adds value to the OS, so I think that’s gonna be the logic behind the Steambox.

    EA might get a few sales out of it, but most people will be using Steam anyway, and the fact that people have choice can only really be a value proposition.

    #63 7 months ago
  64. Dave Cook

    @63 “But Newell would be a hypocrite to lock down the box. The whole purpose of the Steambox is to prove that open is better, and eliminate the walled garden in the console space.”

    +1

    #64 7 months ago
  65. Moonwalker1982

    Interesting. I always like it when new stuff is being announced in the game industry. Hopefully also HL3 related, it’s about goddamn time.

    #65 7 months ago
  66. Mike W

    The million dollar that I need an answer too; is why should I buy a steambox when I already have a monster rig with a steam account?

    #66 7 months ago
  67. pcbros

    @62 – But if you release your first party games to other platforms, why would anyone buy a Wii U, PS4 or a XB1?

    If more formats is the better solution, then Sony should release their games on the Wii U and Xbox One.

    Exclusives attract gamers to your platform, unless the platforms are not competing with each other. But from the looks of things, Valve wants your living room… that’s Sony’s, Nintendo’s and Microsoft’s turf.

    @63 – Good points. But I just think it’s odd to see a competing platform like Origin running on a Steambox. Not saying it won’t happen though.

    @66 – If you have a killer gaming rig and you have it hooked up to your TV, then I don’t think the Steambox is for you. I think it’s for people who are either new to PC gaming (or scared of it), can’t afford a high-end rig and people who want to play PC games in the living room.

    #67 7 months ago
  68. Dragon246

    I am just waiting to see if Valve is being used as a conduit by some major corp to get into gaming.
    Valve cant do consoles itself, and ANY hardware manufacturer they may have a deal with will probably be bigger than them. Remember how PlayStation was born?

    That said, exciting times. More the competition, the merrier for consumers. Looking forward to the announcements.

    #68 7 months ago
  69. pcbros

    1 – SteamOS (Basically a fancy linux distro)! Woohoo I called it :)

    #69 7 months ago