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Forza 5 & Ryse: “I don’t see anything better on a competing platform”, says Penello

Friday, 6th September 2013 10:53 GMT By Dave Cook

Microsoft’s Albert Penello has stated that when it comes to Xbox One launch titles Forza 5 and Ryse: Son of Rome, he doesn’t see anything better on competing platforms.

Speaking with Rev3 Games, the director of product planning said, “I was famously chastised for saying in an interview once that comparing hardware specs was meaningless. And my point with that is, the people who are speculating on this are not our hardware engineers, and we’re not Sony’s hardware engineers. They’re doing things in their hardware to make it the best that they can. We’re doing things in our hardware to make it the best that we can.

“I don’t believe that the difference between these two platforms is [as] significant as comparing individual components. I’m a big car fan, how is it that a 300 or 400 horsepower Porsche can be faster than a 700 horsepower Corvette? It’s balance. there’s different things that you put in the system to make the performance the same, but you make different trade offs. When it comes to RAM, they made one decision on RAM, we made another.

“When I look at these games, I don’t see a difference. And I know there are a lot of people that want to compare those things on paper, and look at these individual components, but for me it comes down to the games, it comes down to the experiences. And I look at games like Ryse, I look at Forza, I don’t see anything better on a competing platform that I’m seeing there.”

Do you feel that here is a current parity across both PS4 and Xbox One’s launch line-up, as Penello suggests? Let us know what you think below.

Via OXM.

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44 Comments

  1. Lengendaryboss

    Oh another one, oh here we go:
    http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3dadjzbx11r5jtugo1_400.gif

    #1 1 year ago
  2. Joe Anderson

    He would say that though. He’s hardly going to come out and say, “well as far as both launch line up’s go, Sony’s is much better than ours.”

    #2 1 year ago
  3. CyberMarco

    “there’s different things that you put in the system to make the performance the same, but you make different trade offs. When it comes to RAM, they made one decision on RAM, we made another.”

    Hey MS, why do you really care about hardware specs if you have the immense powa of teh cloud?

    #3 1 year ago
  4. Kieran

    console wars in 3….2….1 lol

    #4 1 year ago
  5. Beta

    I get what he’s trying to say, but it almost comes across as defensive. “Our games are just as good”

    #5 1 year ago
  6. CoryBittickThePornoCritic

    Penello really does live in his own little world, doesn’t he?

    I’m not necessarily saying the PS4 launch tripe will be any better than the style-over-substance schlock Microsoft is trotting out, but come on.

    #6 1 year ago
  7. Kanok

    “I don’t believe that the difference between these two platforms”

    - Kinect can make a different…………Price!!

    #7 1 year ago
  8. UKVampire

    Oh god this nutter is back..

    I thought after his last interview Microsoft would have had him locked in a cage with extra security

    Let me introduce you to a few Playstation 4 exclusive titles there names are Infamous: Second Son, Killzone: Shadow Fall, or infact Drive Club…not to mention when its released Grand Turismo 6.

    Granted Forza looks superb however to say there is nothing better on competing formats is nothing short of rubbish

    #8 1 year ago
  9. Opalauge

    When it comes to graphic, he’s simply right..the rest is a matter of taste.

    #9 1 year ago
  10. redwood

    ahaahhahahh

    #10 1 year ago
  11. TheBlackHole

    @8 So what racing title is better than Forza on PS4 then… ?

    #11 1 year ago
  12. super3001

    ps3.5 upressed last gen has nothing on xone true next gen.

    xone is better console better network better games.

    no contest

    #12 1 year ago
  13. polygem

    if he cannot see anything better he´s probably just blind.
    brave man that he shares it online. i would personally go to a doctor first.

    why this neverending flood of arrogant statements atm ms? it´s not clever and it doesn´t help. especially not after their fkcued up console reveal. they must play it a bit smoother right now. aggressive but polite. this we are da best crap does not convince anyone. it doesn´t make you look good.
    in fact it would be better to say, it seems like sony did a decent job with the ps4 and i believe nintendo have an interesting line up for the end of this year but i also think we are having some amazing looking games on our platform that already show how the next gen will look like and that will wow people in the gameplay department as well. i think we´re delivering something unique here and games like ryse and forza will show that. we plan and invest to really bring a true next gen experience to xbox gamers.

    #13 1 year ago
  14. super3001

    at least he not targetting enemy crabs weakspot for maximum damage at dual 120 fps with realtime weapon change

    #14 1 year ago
  15. Hcw87

    PS4 has Killzone as a visually impressive launch title, that’s about it.

    That’s probably why he mentions Ryse and Forza, there really isn’t much to compare them to. Killzone’s graphics are in no way worse than Ryse for example though, they look on par.

    #15 1 year ago
  16. polygem

    well in my book super mario 3d world is the best looking game by far anyway

    realistic graphics are plain boring…i want my games colourful and fun.

    realism is for reality

    halo reach > than battlefield

    #16 1 year ago
  17. mistermogul

    MS seem to be coming across as very defensively with their recent comments.

    Does this undermine a lack of confidence in Xb1 you think or are they just trying to compensate for the policy 180′s?

    #17 1 year ago
  18. Units

    Ryse: Son of Rome is looking good

    http://i.minus.com/iZ2zaOxSRkJlP.gif
    http://i.minus.com/ibwuvs9GgOwl6q.gif
    http://i.minus.com/iMI0Cn6YDLh5q.gif
    http://i.minus.com/ibznduiI1tNtep.gif
    http://i.minus.com/iblUZEtxAxvsIA.gif

    #18 1 year ago
  19. OmegaSlayer

    Penello better shut up.
    Every time he speaks he lose a chance to show he’s smart.

    #19 1 year ago
  20. Tech-N9ne

    @19

    Your the one who needs to shut up.

    Having been to GamesCom and played these games, hes 100% correct. Even though I did not like the Ryse gameplay.

    #20 1 year ago
  21. Hcw87

    Some Forza gifs:

    http://abload.de/img/reflectionkvs7l.gif
    http://abload.de/img/reflection2gesvu.gif

    Killzone:

    http://www.playst4tion.com/community/attachments/c-gif.310/
    http://www.playst4tion.com/community/attachments/a-gif.308/

    No matter what, next gen will have visually impressive games from day one.

    #21 1 year ago
  22. CyberMarco

    If graphics are so considerable then Crysis 3 is the most great game, with innovating mechanics and what not. /sarcasm!

    #22 1 year ago
  23. polygem

    @18:

    http://www.nintenderos.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Super-Mario-3D-World-11-1152×648.jpg

    this one also has transparent pipes.

    #23 1 year ago
  24. Kieran

    driveclub might be a new ip but i think its looks equally impressive as forza & gta6 will come to ps4 id say

    #24 1 year ago
  25. MFBB

    I dont think Ryse/Forza are annything special.

    They look the same as the PS4 graphic bombs.

    PC also looks the same, saw Dragon Age 3 and Witcher 3.

    There is no difference at the moment, they all look great.

    But I guess next year Infamous/The Order could beat them all, Witcher 3 could also be something very impressive on PC.

    Battlefield 4 PC was meehh nothing special either, Witcher 3 should be the best looking PC game.

    #25 1 year ago
  26. Tech-N9ne

    @25

    Beat them all how? That’s the crap I keep hearing from you Sony apologist.

    Giving that PC is the pinnacle of gaming graphics, I’m yet to see graphics on the PC that’s the holy grail. So X1/PS4 will not be showing anything better.

    I’m exited about games like The Order purely because gameplay and story wise its looks like my kinda game. Graphics be dammed.

    #26 1 year ago
  27. xxJPRACERxx

    He’s right. So far there’s no game on PS4 that really look better than games on X1.

    #27 1 year ago
  28. OmegaSlayer

    @20
    Dude, book an ophtalmologist visit.
    You’re not even able to tell the difference between static and dynamic lighting and shadowing.
    If your sight is good, then your brain is fucked up but Microsoft fanboyism.

    #28 1 year ago
  29. Bill_E_Talent

    This is only half the tale… Microsoft’s Albert Penello posted the following on GAF http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=670081&page=15 post 708. There’s more at the link but the highlight was this:

    “People DO understand that Microsoft has some of the smartest graphics programmers IN THE WORLD. We CREATED DirectX, the standard API’s that everyone programs against. So while people laude Sony for their HW skills, do you really think we don’t know how to build a system optimized for maximizing graphics for programmers? Seriously? There is no way we’re giving up a 30%+ advantage to Sony. And ANYONE who has seen both systems running could say there are great looking games on both systems. If there was really huge performance difference – it would be obvious.

    I get a ton of hate for saying this – but it’s been the same EVERY generation. Sony claims more power, they did it with Cell, they did it with Emotion Engine, and they are doing it again. And, in the end, games on our system looked the same or better.

    I’m not saying they haven’t built a good system – I’m merely saying that anyone who wants to die on their sword over this 30%+ power advantage are going to be fighting an uphill battle over the next 10 years…”

    #29 1 year ago
  30. Tech-N9ne

    @28

    Yea, what else are you gonna say. Make up some shit, ‘cos I’m blind.

    This remind by of the fairy tale The Emperor’s New Clothes. In this case substitute Clothes for the PS4.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzJ3fcG9IkY

    #30 1 year ago
  31. OmegaSlayer

    @30
    Crow pies need 8 hours to bake.
    Prepare to eat a lot.

    #31 1 year ago
  32. Mus42

    @30 Conventional oven or fan assisted?

    #32 1 year ago
  33. viralshag

    Electric ovens are so wank…

    #33 1 year ago
  34. Riseer

    Ugh…i know he gets paid by MS and all but really?Ryse looks broken atm Firza 5 looks good i agree their but Ryse in a very compact game.Looks at Infamous SS open world with gorgeous graphics.I can careless about which console has better graphics.Ps4 is my choice because Sony has made its message loud and clear.Games Games Games…

    #34 1 year ago
  35. Maguire82

    Personally I think Microsoft do have the best launch games out of both system. Yeah Sony have Kill Zone but compared to battlefield field and COD its mediocre at best. And drivers club ain’t had the best feed back I’ver. But Sony do have Resogun tho.

    @29 I couldn’t agree more.

    #35 1 year ago
  36. Riseer

    @18 sure it looks good but the demo they shown looked bad the gameplay looks like shit..what’s the point of great graphics when the gameplay is crap.

    #36 1 year ago
  37. Riseer

    @35….Killzone beat the breaks off of COD why in the hell did you say that?COD has been doing down hill since MW1.KZ beats the living hell out of it.Also Kz compares damn good to BF.The different type of match setup’s in KZ will keep people interested in it.

    #37 1 year ago
  38. pcbros

    “When I look at these games, I don’t see a difference. And I know there are a lot of people that want to compare those things on paper, and look at these individual components, but for me it comes down to the games, it comes down to the experiences. And I look at games like Ryse, I look at Forza, I don’t see anything better on a competing platform that I’m seeing there.

    Did he say, those games were BETTER than anything on the PS4? No.

    He’s just saying that you can’t focus on which has better components and that he can’t see a difference between XB1 and PS4 games.

    You can all put away your pitchforks and torches now…

    #38 1 year ago
  39. Bomba Luigi

    It all depends on the Viewier, theres no right or Wrong Personal View.

    Just sayin.

    #39 1 year ago
  40. Riseer

    @29,It really does matter if you have weaker hardware you are still limited.You can’t sprinkle fairy dust on it to make it better.Sony has some great engineers as well.The Open GL platform is better for gaming,Valve had L4D running at 315fps vs 270 running on Windows 7.Open GL has less overhead then DX11.2.Hell Open GL uses a version of that Super texture resolution that MS has been talking about.Yet the OpenGL version is more efficient,then the DX11.2 version.

    All i am saying is MS markets the hell out of DX and puts the thought it’s the best gaming API which it’s not Open GL4.4 is by quite a bit.People should get there facts straight.If any Xbone games does run better then the Ps4 version it’s because of the API not the hardware.Sony does have a feature that makes Ps4 work well with DX so this may not be a issue.

    #40 1 year ago
  41. Maguire82

    @37 calm down its my opinion. I have played all the kill zones on the ps3 and for me personally it cant compete with battlefield and COD but I’ll will say this about kill zone it was better than MAG.

    #41 1 year ago
  42. pcbros

    After all is said and done, don’t we all agree with Penello? All these games look comparable. Killzone, Forza 5, inFamous Second Son, Titanfall, Ryse, etc all look great.

    I went to E3 and saw these games first hand. Most of us have seen direct-feed of these games. Do we HONESTLY see a noticeable difference?

    Let’s get real, all this talk about specs is just a waste of time.

    Plus, I never played a Mario game and thought, “man this game sucks… it needs ambient oclussion and true subsurface scattering!”

    Don’t be a graphics whore and just enjoy the games…

    #42 1 year ago
  43. darthroseman

    The launch titles for the PS4 and XB1 make New Super Mario U, Nintendo Land, and Scribblenauts look incredible.

    #43 1 year ago
  44. Doppleganger

    Picking up these games 100% along with Killer Instinct and Battlefield 4!
    If I was buying a PS4……Battlefield 4, so yeah you can say PS4 is cheaper.

    #44 1 year ago

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