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Hotline Miami 2: Wrong Number may rework sexual assault scene included in game’s current demo

Thursday, 5th September 2013 16:09 GMT By Stephany Nunneley

Hotline Miami 2: Wrong Number developer Dennaton Games is considering removing a sexual assault scene included in game’s current demo.

Speaking with RPS, the scene in question was part a demo shown to the press and has received criticism over the playable character Pig Butcher tossing a woman down before dropping his pants.

According to the RPS interview, the female in question was the only one shown in the demo, and after the pants dropping bit, a “director” came onto the screen telling her to act “utterly horrified in a more girly way,” – insinuating the scene was a fake one.

“We were really sad that some people were so affected by it, because maybe they had been through something like that of their own,” said the firm’s Dennis Wedin. “Maybe they had a terrible experience of their own that was triggered by the game. That was not intentional at all. We didn’t add the scene just to be controversial. There is a meaning to these two characters. There’s a lot more to them than just this scene.

“We removed it for the demo. We’re going to work with it, see if we can fix it. You get a bigger picture when you play the whole game, which is lost in the demo of course.”

Wedin said these two characters come back later in the game and the player will learn more about them.

“There’s also gonna be playable female characters – a lot more of them in the final game,” he said. “She’s the only one in this demo, so I understand why people got so upset. But there’s gonna be a lot more to these characters.

“The idea for the opening Pig Butcher scene came from a friend who played the original Hotline Miami and saw it as a horror game. That isn’t really how we see it, but we thought it was pretty cool. We wanted to explore the idea that people can see the game different ways – what it’s all about.

“So for this game, we thought it would be cool to examine that idea. Show how some other people saw the game, like if we gave them the ability to do a remake of the first game. That’s why we did the whole movie director [angle].”

Wedin went on to say that the developer’s reasoning behind the assault scene was due to it being a “trend in horror movies,” which tend to take the next step up with sequels.

“So almost doing that with the illusion of an assault but then having the game stop you, that’s us saying we’re not going to go the whole way,” eh said. “That’s not Hotline Miami. That’s not what we’re about. So instead, it just stops.”

Wedin said the team will see how people react to the reworked scene when the whole game is tested, when it can be presented in full and “in a good way,” instead of provocative.

Hotline Miami 2: Wrong Number launches next year on PS4, Vita, PC, Mac, and Linux.

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48 Comments

  1. Fin

    Thank fuck, it sounded pretty horrible in the PC Gamer preview.

    #1 1 year ago
  2. YoungZer0

    Ah, yes, the double standard. Want to bash in the head of an enemy? Go ahead, let the pixels flow. Sex or sexual violence? No, this might hurt peoples feelings and videogames shouldn’t touch that subject because they are not mature enough.

    Why are they not mature enough? Because we don’t push the boundaries.

    Thanks Obama.

    @1: So did a lot of the reviews about sex-minigame in Killer is Dead. I say you make up your own mind before you dismiss it that easily. I thought the Killer is Dead minigame would be the most horrendous thing ever, until I saw it.

    #2 1 year ago
  3. Fin

    /eyeroll

    That didn’t take long.

    #3 1 year ago
  4. silkvg247

    I still don’t get videogame censorship. If it’s ok in movies and books then why not games (with the appropriate age rating)?

    People have seen me moan about ridiculously sexualised females in games like Dragons Crown, but no matter how much I moan I don’t ask for censorship. I simply don’t buy the game, problem solved – just like I wouldn’t buy a book which involves dudes raping girls. None of it’s real, none of it matters, and why is it ever ok to tell someone what they can or can’t read or see or play?

    Censorship has to die, it really does.

    #4 1 year ago
  5. onlineatron

    @4

    it’s not censorship. it’s a developer listening to criticism, internalising it, and acting how they see fit.

    whether you agree with their decision or not, it’s practically the opposite of censorship–it’s free will.

    #5 1 year ago
  6. YoungZer0

    “I think the enemy is self-censorship. In a free society the biggest danger is that you’re afraid to the point where you censor yourself.”

    #6 1 year ago
  7. onlineatron

    @2

    right? rape victims, trauma survivors… they all just need to quit being such babies, to mature. because inhumane, nightmarish events, and material that recalls those times could never ever ever ever possibly affect the mental maturation and health of an adult and maturity is defined by the ability to repress horrific events.

    #7 1 year ago
  8. onlineatron

    @6

    that’s a rather disgusting misappropriation of a quote from a decent man.

    #8 1 year ago
  9. Ekona

    @7 So you’d be okay with other media never showing anything that could possibly be considered traumatic ever again either?

    #9 1 year ago
  10. DSB

    @7 That’s a ridiculous cop-out and I think you know it.

    If we were suddenly going to begin designing our entertainment to avoid ever triggering bad memories in people, then we might as well abolish the whole fucking lot. Because everyone has something. It might be a car crash, a shooting, a suicide in the family, an industrial accident, or a violent assault.

    Those things happen, it’s sad for all of us, and some of us should probably take care not to expose ourselves to certain media, if it triggers bad reactions in us, but demanding that others be selective with reality just because some people carry emotional scars is just a non-starter.

    #10 1 year ago
  11. Logion

    I think developers should be prepared to get reactions like this when showing a rape scene on an exhibition. Doesn’t matter if it’s movies or video games.

    #11 1 year ago
  12. onlineatron

    @dsb

    there’s respectfully exploring rape and it’s ramifications, or the way rape is viewed in media, and then there’s trivialising it, exploting it for shock value.

    it sounds like dennaton are more interested in the former two, but it’s understable how a verticle slice from an already hyper-violent game could be taken as the latter.

    remember your perspective is limited. mine too. but the difference is i’m trying to allow other perspectives, opinions, concerns into mine; while you cup your ears and scream la la la.

    it is sad for us all. but it’s much much much more, infinitely more, sad for the survivors. to try and hush their voice for the sake of your own is very problematic.

    #12 1 year ago
  13. rockman29

    @12

    Great post and thank you for posting that, you said it much better than I was going to.

    I feel the comparing of violence and rape is invalid. Violence has had a history of over 75+ years to distill itself in cultural media like movies and TV shows.

    It is because of this, that the HLM criticism of violence in games works. Because violence has always been a platform in games.

    Rape is however an issue virtually untouched by games, and in the cases it is, it’s mostly insensitive.

    HLM can’t use rape to criticize violence in cultural mediums, because rape never was a integral part to the violent features it is bringing attention to.

    What does social discussion and education and understanding of rape and it’s ramifications have to do with action movies and the obsession with killing in games? The latter of which HLM is about? Not much I think.

    The rape scene in HLM only serves to distract from it’s main purpose, due to it’s obvious shock value.

    Rape needs a different platform to be discussed. Abuse of children, sexual abuse of children or adults, and rape… all of these things are not part of the desensitization that is present in modern action films or games.

    Rape cannot simply be an ancillary narrative to this history of cultural media. It is a topic on it’s own and should be respected as the serious topic it is, not simply paraded and trivialized and exploited for shock value.

    #13 1 year ago
  14. DarkElfa

    The point is that this shit happens in real life, horrible or not and just like in films or books, if it is an important part of character development or story narrative then it should not be removed due to people not understanding that not all games are meant for children.

    #14 1 year ago
  15. RPRezo

    Sometimes I hate internet for giving whiny shits so much power over what other people should or shouldn’t see…

    Than again, it’s their right. The ones who are listening to this so-called “criticism” are the only ones at fault.

    #15 1 year ago
  16. rockman29

    @14 @15

    So you are saying because we are desensitized to violence in games, we should also become desensitized to rape in games or other popular culture like movies? Do you think rape should regularly feature as much as general violence in games/movies?

    Not that it matters or I think it is directly and immediately socially harming, but does it simply make it right by extension?

    Also does the presence of violence or a violent act such as rape automatically qualify art as mature?

    #16 1 year ago
  17. Taurinensis

    I think everyone likes to forget that just because something is in a work of fiction, doesn’t mean it promotes or condones it.

    Hotline Miami 1 had a dead male character with severe genital mutilation but no one cares about that now do they?

    Way to stifle artistic vision just because your a whiny little baby. That implied rape scene said a lot about Pig Butcher as a character and clearly set him apart from other members of the cast like Biker or Jacket.

    Of course though, it’s “in” at the moment to cry sexist at video games for every so called “journalist” with an agenda so they can push their crap or drum up page views.

    I can name lots of games with implied rape in them, but when Hotline Miami does it suddenly people start getting offended? puh-lease

    #17 1 year ago
  18. YoungZer0

    @7: Pathetic. So you’re saying because there are people out there who lost someone in a shoot out we shouldn’t play shooters anymore? What exactly were you thinking when you wrote that?

    You know what’s worse than talking about rape? Not talking about rape.

    People avoided Bioshock Infinite because of its religious themes. They have every right to be offended but telling a developer to drop it, because they were offended by it? How is that helping anyone?

    #18 1 year ago
  19. DSB

    @12 Is rape ever not shocking? It’s a gross sexual violation, it’s extreme by definition, and as such there’s no way you’re ever going to make a satisfying rule for when it would be acceptable in entertainment, or not.

    I’m pretty sure the vast majority of people everywhere agree that rape is deplorable, and that the victims deserve our sympathy. So do the victims of car wrecks, shootings, war, and violent assault.

    However, being involved in a traumatic event doesn’t give anyone the right to dictate what can or can’t be depicted in fiction.

    I think it’s totally fair to declare what’s actually in a piece of entertainment for those who are concerned, and conveniently enough we’re already doing that through ESRB and PEGI.

    #19 1 year ago
  20. G-Sama

    @18 +1
    for me ….i’ve had terrifying experiences with gunshots ..
    yet i’m a gamer who plays everything .. including shooting people ..

    you know what sucks ? rape and sex in music videos all the time .. with people singing about their bitches and slabbing their big booties , yet no one care ..
    a game that has a laying down mini-game … OH SHIT SEXISM !!

    people need to grow the fuck up .. how the hell are you expecting games to mature if you can’t deal with the implication of real life stories ? what if rape is a part of the characters back story ?

    i’m sure as hell raping in here wasn’t for “the shock value” as much as it serves something in the story ..

    grow up people … grow up

    #20 1 year ago
  21. Fin

    You guys are awesome, I bet any women reading these comments would feel right at home, and want to be part of the industry.

    Way to go guys!

    #21 1 year ago
  22. DSB

    Because having the PC police shame people into changing their games is such a boon to any artist.

    Great dedication to your craft there, Fin.

    #22 1 year ago
  23. G-Sama

    Edit : nevermind … DSB said my idea

    #23 1 year ago
  24. DarkElfa

    @16 I’ve been watching films for 4 decades now that have scenes of rape or assault and I’ve never become de-sensitized to the horror they represent.

    I’m not suggesting that every game have them but if it is part of the story then its part of the story. My problem with this is that some people still don’t see gaming as a story telling medium that isn’t meant for all ages and thus must face different restrictions from films.

    #24 1 year ago
  25. TheWulf

    @4

    Interesting opinion, and one I agree with.

    I have a somewhat controversial opinion in regards to Dragons’s Crown, and one’s that lead to a lot of sexually insecure anger. Essentially, my opinion is that Dragon’s Crown shouldn’t be censored, but if you’re going to do that with women, you should also do it with guys.

    See, at this point, people with reading comprehension issues would jump down my throat and throw pictures of the male heroes at me before reading the rest of the post. That’s happened, more times than I could admit to whilst staying as happy as I am. It might even happen here, who knows?

    Anyway, the thing of it is is that there are depictions of women in Dragon’s Crown that are only of women. Specifically — I’m talking about the vulnerable, chained up/injured women who’re offered as a ‘reward screen’ to the horny men playing the game. That’s fine, I don’t blame them for including that, and I have nothing against it.

    BUT.

    I think they should be including lanky, frail men in jockstraps and revealing armour, injured/chained up and what have you, to balance it out. Men, however, are so used to the masculine ideal (heh) that they freak out at the mere notion of the depiction of frail men in vulnerable positions. Have you ever seen how the average male gamer reacts to that? It’s hilarious in its travesty.

    So whilst I’m not against what Dragon’s Crown does, I am against that we never do this with guys.

    #25 1 year ago
  26. TheWulf

    Regarding the article? It’s a touchy subject. It’s made problematic by the fact that rape culture is popular today, you have people promoting and loving rape, and speaking out in it’s favour. When gaming celebrities like Mike and Jerry of Penny Arcade also support rape, then you know there’s something wrong, there.

    I’m not saying that anything should be censored, but it is a dangerous time for games to be experimenting with rape. Regarding #2, I agree, but I think that gamers need to be more mature about rape before games can be mature about rape. Rape is a horrific subject, and it needs to be treated with respect, but the average gamer attitude seems to be ‘lol rape.’

    Not exactly mature.

    There’ll be a time to explore rape in games, but people have to grow up, first. And rape itself needs to stop being promoted as a positive thing by gamers, because there are people who’ve gone through some shit regarding that (myself included), and it’s not a lot of fun. Sometimes one has to be socially responsible and actually include ethics in what they do.

    At this point, we need to be teaching people that rape is bad and nothing to joke about. I wish I hadn’t had to write this post, but that’s the reality of the situation. It has a certain gravitas that other social issues don’t. You don’t see picking on disabled people as being promoted as positive, and these days you don’t even see the discrimination of gays being lauded as a good thing.

    Rape is the current darling of monsters. We need to draw a line in the sand, then we can move on.

    #26 1 year ago
  27. TheWulf

    @18

    Agreed. I so agree with this, especially:

    You know what’s worse than talking about rape? Not talking about rape.

    I just hope those discussions can go further than ‘lol rape,’ which seems to be the extent of talking about rape thus far.

    #27 1 year ago
  28. TheWulf

    On the topic of being desensitised to violence in games: I’m not.

    In a game, I will actually take the high road and not kill anyone if that’s possible. And animals? I can’t. I have a mental block against harming even the depiction of an animal, I’d cry. I’m a big wuss.

    I’ve spoken about this in the past, but never have I said that there shouldn’t be games like that, not once. What I have said is that I wish we had more variety, and games in which we had more options than simply murder. I’ve longed for that. That’s part of my problem with video games in general, really. The handling of violence is as much ‘lol violence’ as the handling of rape is ‘lol rape.’

    Aside from the unusually mature instance of something very special (Gone Home et al), we seem to be in the infancy of a culture. We’re 98% Last Action Hero, and 2% Pan’s Labyrinth.

    I look at something like Spec Ops: The Line with awe, as it actually managed to handle the weight of murder, guilt, and conscience. It made the player feel some of the PTSD that a soldier who’d spent time on the field would have. That’s amazing.

    Again, I’m not saying that we shouldn’t have games which are dumb and fun, because I like those too, but I think that we should grow up and expect more from the industry. Aside from films like Last Action Hero, I find that killing a person in a film is handled with a lot of weight, there’s a lot of baggage for any character who kills.

    Video games mostly though?

    Let’s just rape/murder/pillage and get this shit over with.

    #28 1 year ago
  29. TheWulf

    Now then, everyone else? Try and top that! That’s intellectual discussion, right there, and I’d like to see more of it. And please, let’s discuss the argument rather than attacking the person. Okay?

    #29 1 year ago
  30. FrayJoker

    As with any media I don’t think the issue is whether or not games should contain sexual violence. Fiction is one of those things we use to make sense of the world, and it can be a safe way for us to explore it’s cruelty and make sense of it. I think the bigger problem here is whether or not Hotline Miami 2, a game that trivialises brute violence, should be allowed to trivialise sexual violence in the same vein.

    Those of you who are equating rape and murder are choosing to see this debate in very black and white terms. The fundamental difference between violence and sexual violence, especially in this scenario, is about where the power exists. The difference is that you are a reactive force in Hotline Miami. You are on equal footing in a kill or be killed scenario. You are empowered for being able to see a layout, for being able to die a bunch of times before you get that perfect route through. But the enemies are armed and just as likely to kill you as you kill them.

    Sexual violence isn’t just violence + boobies and therefore it’s more perverse and that’s why we don’t like it. I admit it is a huge discrepancy that we are more willing to depict violence over sexuality. But rape is about stripping autonomy and power at the most base and cruel level. I’m not going to say that’s what makes it worse, because it’s not that simple. But those who are dead don’t have to deal with death. Those who are raped, have to deal with rape. That’s why the subject should be treated with sensitivity.

    So that leaves the question. Can we trust Hotline Miami 2 to deal sensitively with a topic like this? Well, no. This series is basically the gaming equivalent of an exploitation film. So I can only applaud the developers here for having the restraint to say “well maybe this isn’t the best way we can handle this” and reflect on the issue. They could have gone for cheap shock value, but at the end of the day that would have done more harm than good.

    #30 1 year ago
  31. Clupula

    @21 – You guys are awesome, I bet any women reading these comments would feel right at home, and want to be part of the industry.

    You mean, like, Silk, who is a woman who commented on here that she was against censorship, even of things that may personally offend her?

    #31 1 year ago
  32. Dragon246

    @12,
    Do you also have problems with brutal murder simulators? Like.every.shooter.ever.
    Do you care for countless people who are traumatized by seeing murder in real life?

    #32 1 year ago
  33. Tyrantsoul

    I’m sorry but people forgetting that Gaming is a hobby,a glorified toy.Violence in games is okay because to a degree we learn it growing up.Mess fighting,toy guns(Growing up” pow! pow! pow! I killed you”). To that degree this is why violence is acceptable.Especially with boys which is why most games are aimed at a male audience.Its most likely a survival trait.

    Look at the news for example,you will see shock images of violence and gore.You won’t however see scenes of someone been raped.Why?Because as a society it,as an act is distested.And gamer or not you are part of this society.I refuse to buy from any game company that puts any rape scenes in a game.It can only be put in as a shock value.Point of proof is Hotline Miami,a 2d top down shooter.It has no need whatsoever to be in it.

    #33 1 year ago
  34. Clupula

    So, the news doesn’t report about people being raped?

    That’s certainly something I was unaware of, because recently, there was a case of three women who were kidnapped by this guy and his family and used as sex slaves for years. One of them for 11 years. The news went into detail about some of the things that happened to these women and even described one of them being seen naked on all fours in the backyard of these guys.

    And that’s just North American news.

    I’ve seen the nudity and gore that South American news will show.

    #34 1 year ago
  35. Tyrantsoul

    @34 Did I say report?No I did not.I said “show scenes of”

    #35 1 year ago
  36. Legion

    @#2 “Thanks Obama”?

    Really… that is your statement… blame Obama for everything? Even video games? Anything you say is null and void.

    #36 1 year ago
  37. Fin

    @31

    No, I mean women who casually like videogames, but don’t comment, and see comment threads like this, reinforcing the concept that games are a guys club.

    Summary:
    “I don’t find something offensive, so nobody else should either! If they do, they should just STFU and let me play my games!”

    #37 1 year ago
  38. Ireland Michael

    The common argument being made seems to be that this whole issue is killing artistic expression. To that I ask… *what* artistic expression? What exactly does the scene convey? What message is it trying to make? Is it anything more than senseless violence for the sake of violence sake?

    If it actually served some sort of thematic purpose, I could totally understand the outcry. But it doesn’t. It’s just there. If it doesn’t, I’m not getting it.

    Before you use the double standard argument… am I really the only one out off by the bloody, senseless violence portrayed in this game? Ten years ago I wouldn’t have blinked an eyelids, but in my old age (31), I’m starting to not only find this sort of blind violence boring, but genuinely unnerving.

    This is jus my view on its worth. I’m not suggesting anything get censored.

    #38 1 year ago
  39. DSB

    This.

    http://www.quartertothree.com/fp/2013/09/05/sequel-hotline-miami-include-rape-scene/

    #39 1 year ago
  40. Ireland Michael

    @39 Until we actually know the context of the scene, its impossible to argue for or against it.

    Is she a victim of the main character’s abuse?

    Is he saving her?

    What’s the purpose?

    #40 1 year ago
  41. CoryBittickThePornoCritic

    @40 maybe there was no purpose. Maybe it was just there because the developers thought “might as well put a rape scene in!”. Or, more realistically, it was there for the sake of controversy. To build hype pre-launch.

    #41 1 year ago
  42. Ireland Michael

    @41 That was my original point. Unless it serves some sort of thematic purpose in the overall experience, no argument against stifling “artistic creativity” can really be made.

    Sure, you can call it art. Anything can technically be art. That doesn’t make it good art.

    I for one don’t want to play a character who rapes someone. If he’s saving someone, that only mildly justifies it – I still find the general excessive violence of the game off putting.

    #42 1 year ago
  43. CoryBittickThePornoCritic

    @42 Well sir, thats just your opinion. And I respect that.
    I had personally hoped they would keep the rape scene, just for a bit of color and variety to the seemingly one-note gameplay of Hotline Miami. But oh well.

    #43 1 year ago
  44. zinc

    So nobody knows the context of the full scene?

    We’re all just knee-jerking over limited info?

    Carry on.

    #44 1 year ago
  45. DSB

    @42 We’re totally on the level in your last two paragraphs, but the first one just makes me feel like you’re trying to make the same bullshit distinction that Dave was trying to make when he felt like “fun” wasn’t a good enough “justification” to add some sex to Killer is Dead.

    Why did Ving Rhames have to be raped in Pulp Fiction? Why did Uma Thurman have to be raped in Kill Bill? Did she really need to wear that sexy latex? Did they really have to “bring on the gimp”?

    Neither situation treated rape seriously, or with respect. Ving Rhames getting buttfucked in the basement of a pawn shop was just a disturbing joke, and one that certainly never took into consideration the feelings of anyone who’s ever been exposed to sexual violation.

    Does that make it bad entertainment though? No. I don’t think so. And neither did the people who awarded the movie the Palme D’or.

    And that’s because you cannot turn it into an objective distinction. It’s a subjective work, removed from reality. It’s meant to stir something in you. If that something is disgust, that is still fully relevant.

    … And then we arrive at your last two paragraphs, which is totally fair. People have every right to be disgusted. It’s once people start claiming that they have “no right” to depict it that I start spitting out my coke :P

    #45 1 year ago
  46. Ireland Michael

    @45 I can’t really talk about those particular scenes, because I’ve never seen either of those movies, but talking purely from a personal perspective, I don’t think I would enjoy them.

    I don’t think anything should be censored, of course. But I can’t in good conscience say that I would be comfortable with that scene if it was right in front of me at that point in time. It would put me off playing completely.

    I just generally find violence and morally questionable things uncomfortable. But that’s just me – I simply don’t buy the entertainment that doesn’t align with what I’m okay with.

    #46 1 year ago
  47. dylquesne

    sexual violence happens to both genders. this is overlooked, and i am trying to bring it into the limelight with the following petition. please forward this to anyone who cares about stopping sexual violence.

    END SEXUAL VIOLENCE AGAINST MEN (with an eye for an eye)

    THESIS: if a member of the little, lesser gender commits sexual violence against men by kicking any man in the balls, thereby damaging his “man parts,” the man has a right to viciously rape his attacker’s “lady parts” in an “an eye for an eye” method of self-defense.

    i am not a man built like the football greats who are matt muchnok, tim tebow, josh lane or jeb blazavich – i am not built like ANY football hero, and it’s because i am so small and slight that i live in fear of members of the lesser gender. now, from the mere mention of a class teaching “100 ways to rip a guy’s nuts off” on an episode of “the big bang theory,” right down to images of “rosie the riveter” flexing her (quite unseen) bicep, i have good reason to live in fear of the warped sense of reality that the little females have adopted nowadays. sexual violence is sexual violence, and i believe that any man should be able to rape his attacker if he is kicked in the nuts by a little vagina who thinks she has some kind of superiority over men.

    i will bring up the television show called “mister rogers” because i believe that vaginas nowadays are living in “the land of make-believe” where they are as strong and as physically-capable as men are. “the land of make-believe,” kiddie-wonderland, “sesame street,” these places are the only places where there is no superior gender and therefore no shorter gender and no smaller gender and no weaker gender. no hungrier gender and no hornier gender. the fact is that gender-equality is propaganda that is not real and that exists only in lip-service after mention of it has become tolerable by a lot of repetition (how many times today have you heard or read the words “strong woman” or “a woman can do anything a man can do,” for crying out loud). maybe “abby cadabby,” the magical homosexual who lives on sesame street, may be able to undo biology and make gender-equality a reality…but save magical fairies and gender-equality for the childrens’ show – gender-equality is not real and it’s not going to become real with the works of a either a troop of fairies or just the one fairy trooper named abby

    blazavich, for instance, probably never was raped and yet is probably against rape. can one be opposed to rape if one has never been raped? “how do you know you don’t like it if you’ve never tried it,” isn’t that what gay-activists say? personally, i would love to be raped by the football-stud named blazavich…still, though, jeb blazavich is someone i wouldn’t respect if i realized (while sucking his big, fat blazavich) that he buys into the whole “a woman can do anything a man can do” facade. i don’t even respect some people who are not blind and who see through the facade of female police-officers – i don’t respect them if they still give lip-service to gender-equality. now, i realize that blazavich would not necessarily rape any member of the lesser gender if a vagina went and kicked him in the nuts, but i believe that this option should be open for men who are in-touch with reality enough to want to put women in their place (the word “woman,” after all, is a spin-off of “man” and a derivative of the words “womb” and “man”. the reason there is no “b” is because the lesser gender lacks “Balls” (or testosterone).

    you cannot be a real woman unless you are wholeheartedly an egg-bleeder and a milk-leaker – women are merely tools to be used by mens’ penises and by babies’ need for nourishment. milk and eggs, it’s as simple as dairy. you can’t be a real woman unless you are not ashamed that your body-parts scream “USE US” like they’re straight out of an x-rated version of “alice in wonderland”. real women are not ashamed of their milk-jugs and their egg-laying vaginas, they are not ashamed of their lack of testosterone. furthermore, they are not ashamed that a woman simply cannot do anything a man can do.

    END SEXUAL VIOLENCE WITH SEXUAL VIOLENCE

    when one considers the amount of the media’s propaganda and even scholastic propaganda that is designed to placate the lesser gender with the gender-identity issue of “a woman can do anything a man can do,” it should come as no surprise that coney island went and added a “ladies’ division” to their hot dog eating competition in an effort for the lesser appetites to triumph. “triumph,” as in alongside of men and never over men. it should come as no surprise that the little ones wear high-heeled shoes and shoulderpads to placate their egos on the job, as if to pledge allegiance to pat benatar with the words “we belong” when they obviously DON’T belong.

    furthermore, employers should require perspective female employees to pass an “anything a man can to” type of ability-test if females want to be employed. i know that this would be regarded by every lackluster member of the insufficient gender as sexism, but the reason that this is not done is because nobody has any faith in the physical capabilities of members of the shorter/smaller/weaker gender who rely on gender-based requirements to get a place as a soldier in the military or as a state trooper in a state police force located in indiana, pennsylvania, texas or any other state. unreliable is anyone who benefits from special compensations made to offset the inadequacies of femininity.

    when one considers the amount of the media’s propaganda and even scholastic propaganda that is designed to placate the lesser gender with the gender-identity issue of “a woman can do anything a man can do,” it should come as no surprise that females are never required to be able to do anything a man can do. it should come as no surprise that tactics of overcompensation like the aforementioned “ladies’ division” are used everywhere so that there is equal representation of both genders everywhere and even where the lesser gender doesn’t belong. speaking of the police force and the military, let me rephrase that statement by stating that if a man is only as strong as a woman then he’s just not going to be accepted into the military. the lesser gender has less required of them – this is because they are lesser people…and lesser people just can’t accomplish as much.

    if a man is only as strong as a woman, he’s not going to be accepted onto the police farce. “police farce,” let me quote pee-wee herman and say “i meant to do that”. it is a “farce” more than it is a “force to be reckoned with” if little vaginas become police officers largely because less physical aptitude is expected of them. the act of placating females is compromising the military’s identity and integrity as much as an act of homosexuality is compromising a man’s masculine identity and integrity. “a woman can do anything a man can do” is so obviously a cry for unrealized masculine identity, and a man stripping and inspecting another man’s body is (to quote kelly clarkson) “the same damned thing”.

    when one considers the media’s propaganda and even scholastic propaganda that is designed to placate the lesser gender with the gender-identity issue of “a woman can do anything a man can do,” it should come as no surprise that females are a bunch of masculine wannabees who think they have a right to use phrases like “yeah, man,” as if seeing eye-to-eye with men is only a matter of wearing a pair of overcompensating high-heeled shoes or shoulderpads. women are not men – women should not be allowed to compromise the police force with all of their physical inferiorities, and they should not be allowed to compromise the military. the word “woman” may be derivative of “womb” and “man,” but there are no balls without the letter b. testosterone makes men superior to women, it’s as simple as that. superior height, superior width, superior strength, superior appetites for both sex and food.

    if it is customary to get vaginas buying into the lie of “gender equality,” if a woman can do anything a man can do only if the bar is lowered, i think that a man should be able to do anything a woman can do. if a man is kicked in the balls by an overzealous wannabee, the man should be able to rape the wannabee – not only to teach her that she’ll “neverbee,” but as a method of equalization. “if you kick me in the balls, bitch, i’m gonna rape your vagina”. an eye for an eye.

    mr. dylan terreri, i
    dr. sheldon cooper, ii
    http://www.thelessergender.com
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    #47 12 months ago
  48. JB

    This discussion reminds me of the case against the website Bestgore:

    http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/06/05/best-gore-website-will-most-likely-be-charged-for-graphic-dismemberment-video-police-say/

    “While Zvulony said he believes not all murderous content should be taken off the Internet — for example, he would not remove depictions of governments massacring their own citizens, as happened recently in Syria — the video attributed to Magnotta, he argued, crosses a line.

    “We don’t want to sanitize reality. We want to have access to the truth. Except at some point, that unsanitized truth becomes really harmful to society,” he said.

    “It goes against the ethos of the Internet, but we do have to put some responsibility on the people who run these sites.”

    >_<

    #48 12 months ago

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