PS4 recording doesn’t require PS Plus subscription

Thursday, 8 August 2013 12:51 GMT By Dave Cook

PlayStation 4 game recording and streaming do not require a PS Plus subscription, as confirmed by Sony’s president of worldwide studios Shuhei Yoshida.

It follows confirmation that Xbox One’s DVR features will require an Xbox Live Gold subscription.

GameInformer has collated some Twitter conversations between Yoshida and fans on the matter, showing that PS4 recording and streaming will indeed be free.

What do you make of this?


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  1. Froseidon

    And the pissing contest continues!

    #1 2 years ago
  2. Dave Cook

    @1 just reporting the news as it happens innit?

    #2 2 years ago
  3. Zensi

    Anyone who is bothered to stream is going to pay for ps+ anyway… MS Witch-hunt once again

    #3 2 years ago
  4. Aullah


    #4 2 years ago
  5. Froseidon

    @2 – It wasn’t a dig at VG, trust me :P More at MS and Sony for trying to one up each other. Its so petty :/

    #5 2 years ago
  6. ps3fanboy


    #6 2 years ago
  7. lexph3re

    Not a pissing contest to answer consumer questions. This isn’t an official statement from Sony but more of a public q&a

    #7 2 years ago
  8. super3001

    same as last gen. no investment from sony = same shitty bare bone network

    xbl >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> psn

    #8 2 years ago
  9. Clupula

    @3 – Not necessarily. People do sometimes play single player games from time to time.

    #9 2 years ago
  10. viralshag

    It does seem silly for MS to lock it behind Live. Probably another thing they will U-turn on.

    I think it’s clear they want all X1′s to have a Live sub attached but the way they’re trying to sell/force/blackmail you into it is a shame.

    #10 2 years ago
  11. Aullah

    @8 I guess when you go to a shop to buy milk, you but the more expensive one cause its better. Right?

    #11 2 years ago
  12. Froseidon

    @7 – It is a bit of a pissing contest. The companies have tried to one up each other so much that what made the console separate is now lost. They’ve lost what made them unique. You buy one, you have the other.

    #12 2 years ago
  13. DrDamn

    I think it all depends on the execution. If MS let you upload and store to their cloud and Sony are integrating with just existing social network sites (Youtube/Facebook etc). Then the location of the feature (behind/infront of paywall) is about right.

    #13 2 years ago
  14. actuallyisnotafox

    no offence to microsoft but thats kinda nice :’)

    #14 2 years ago
  15. xXNapsterManXx

    Honestly im in Australia so streaming and this video uploading stuff looks very bleak but I am going to have Xbox gold and not have PS+ mainly coz I communicate with all my friends on xbox I’ll only be getting the ps4 for dem exclusives most likely SP naughty dog games.

    #15 2 years ago
  16. Bam007

    @ps3fanboy at least us “XBOTS” can stream directly to Twitch. Ustream to Twitch is Zune Marketplace to iTunes.

    #16 2 years ago
  17. Linuxul19

    @16 – Have fun being spied on you moronic twat

    #17 2 years ago
  18. Eregol

    @8 No investment from Sony? What do you call the purchase of Gaikai?

    #18 2 years ago
  19. Ignatius_Cheese

    So how long until the next MS U-turn?

    #19 2 years ago
  20. Joe Musashi

    I think someone yesterday suggested that Microsoft’s method may be to host the streaming data themselves whilst Sony’s approach is simply to facilitate the route to third party hosts (Twitch, Ustream, YouTube etc.).

    I don’t know if that’s what the actual plan is or not. If it is then I can understand why Microsoft’s approach would be part of their Gold service.

    That said, this streaming is almost like free advertising. Get your customers to promote your game content and show it off. If my product was going to benefit from that type of promotion I’d make it as simple as possible for it to happen.


    #20 2 years ago
  21. super3001


    waste of money

    #21 2 years ago
  22. ps3fanboy

    look at all these butthurtz xbots here, LOOOOL!… you guys picked the wrong side and now are paying for your mistakes. you can only blame yourselves for picking the crappola tvbox, just saying.

    #22 2 years ago
  23. Lengendaryboss

    Super is a troll like many others: don’t feed him and when you present him with facts it doesn’t matter: trolls and fanboys live in their own fantasy world to put it politely.

    Ignoring everything to suit their point.

    #23 2 years ago
  24. Lengendaryboss

    Just like people are paying for multiplayer on PS4?

    #24 2 years ago
  25. monkeygourmet

    Good news for an already cheaper device.

    #25 2 years ago
  26. MFBB

    #20 Well Sony is using cloud servers for many years on the PS3 to do all the online stuff and matchmaking etc.

    With Gakai they have even more cloud servers now, what are they going to do with all those servers if not use for features like this….but I guess they could mainly be for streaming PS3/older games.

    #18 you have to ignore idiots/trolls so they die.

    They feed from your response, just let them die.

    #26 2 years ago
  27. Eregol

    @23 Granted, I don’t read the comments here enough to know everyone’s demeanor.
    Both sides of the PS4VXB1 argument have selective memories and only remember the things that benefit them.

    #27 2 years ago
  28. super3001

    I dont buy cheapest device. I buy best for purpose.

    ps3.5 is CHEAP
    xone is BEST

    no compromise

    #28 2 years ago
  29. xxJPRACERxx

    I really like ps+, the best value around. But xbl is still better if you want mp but the value is not really good when you compared to ps+.

    #29 2 years ago
  30. Bam007

    PlayStation fanboy logic

    2013: Xbox One is going to cost how much? $499? LOL WHAT A RIP OFF!

    2006: OMG look at the cost of the PS3. For $599, we are getting the future of entertainment. Totally worth it!

    This site has gone to shit. If articles were actually moderated, we could have a civilised discussion rather than the article being ignored and people like ps3fanboy whipping out his cock and trying to convince everyone it is bigger than what it really is.

    #30 2 years ago
  31. Kieran

    @15 your gonna buy the 2 u must be loaded along with both memberships !! waste of money lad buy the one & be happy with your choice :)

    personally i cant wait til november and see whos outselling who but microsoft are doing everything they shouldnt i still do believe microsoft will do something in future about the drm or mandatory check ins !!! they will bring something like that back next year !!!

    #31 2 years ago
  32. smithy2483


    I’m a fan of both consoles, had all playstations 1-3 from Limited Edition Crystal Xbox and Xbox 360

    What makes the Xbox the best and you say ps4 is ps3.5??? (I’m throwing you a bone here ad you seem to troll that’s all)
    I’m not one that really cares for specs as im a fan of the GAMES!! but the PS4 the One trumped on specs fairly substantialy if you read the reports

    I’m holding off on getting the One at launch until I no longer require the Kinect… I didn’t buy it for my 360 (nor the daft camera on ps3) as I have no interest in these things

    #32 2 years ago
  33. Eregol

    @32 I’m curious as to what makes the XB1 a true successor while the PS4 is only a PS3.5 as well to be honest.

    #33 2 years ago
  34. SplatteredHouse

    Well, that’s great, for the reason that on one hand Sony embraced and presented the service as accessible, and upfront in importance to the system. Microsoft showed their hand well after Sony, and were shy on details, as ever. HAD Sony restricted the use of the recording services, it would have struck out at odds against the warm, inviting tone set at the conference unveiling. An inclusive facility, with ease of use, great for capturing what you’re enjoying, and available right from the fascia.

    I think it’s a big deal, where one competitor offers less than you ask, whilst the other offers more than you might expect.

    To the point about the article, I feel that where there is a level of doubt, then the question should be asked, and information sought. Why not clarify where each player stands on an issue, if you can? In the end, its better for everyone. The person being asked gets more time/space to talk about their product, the person asking obtains more, clear, information; and the person buying, probably (as well as being left better informed) feels a little bit better about both of the former.

    #34 2 years ago
  35. Lengendaryboss

    That means you own a PS3, logic failed troll.

    See 23.

    #35 2 years ago
  36. merrc

    It’s funny how so many still defend the greedy American company that is Microsoft. You guys are the real fanboys for not seeing how Microsoft is bending you over this generation. Most of the X1s features including “TV” is locked behind the paywall, so essentially it costs well over the $499 price. They don’t even include a headset, or rechargeable batteries in the controller, they want you to pay for all that shit. On top of that, you have the American govt. in close collaboration with Microsoft to exchange your personal information so easily. What will it take for y’all to say enough is enough?
    It’s not about being a fanboy, it’s about noticing which company is for you, and which is against you.

    #36 2 years ago
  37. Eregol

    I think all this stuff about personal data intrusion is over-egging the pudding a little.

    #37 2 years ago
  38. smithy2483


    I know, I rarely post in discussions, I just read peoples views… But maybes it’s because im a fairly old gamer (30) and have own all consoles from commadore 64 (apart GameCube and Wii U) I font understand the constant unexplained bashing and trolling

    #38 2 years ago
  39. ps3fanboy

    @38 yah yah… after all you picked the commandore64 instead of the sucky zx and amstrads. so im shure if you bang your head in the sofa a couple of times, you will wake up the old braincell and remember. if not i guess your ready for the retirement home, just saying…

    #39 2 years ago
  40. Lengendaryboss

    Take your own advice ;)

    #40 2 years ago
  41. bradk825

    Anyone that didn’t see this coming?
    Next week, MS plans to announce their penis size, followed by Sony, lol.

    #41 2 years ago
  42. super3001


    no ps3. 360 was much better console and no bare bone shitty psn. xbl had investment unlike always down or hacked psn

    #42 2 years ago
  43. poisonfart

    It`s not about size, the technique matters

    #43 2 years ago
  44. Joe Musashi

    Interesting. Members of one faction have twice made a reference to penis size in their responses.

    How very Freudian.


    #44 2 years ago
  45. Eregol

    @43 If that were the case MS have shown themselves to be very clumsy lovers.

    #45 2 years ago
  46. Lengendaryboss

    “I dont buy cheapest device. I buy best for purpose.”

    Troll on:

    Xbox360: $399.99

    #46 2 years ago
  47. MrWaffles

    @20 right on the money.

    #47 2 years ago
  48. smithy2483


    I think both consoles had great games, I’m not a lover of FPS so COD and battlefield hold no interest to me, I loved Last of Us, God of War and Uncharted on PS3 and games like Kameo (my fav launch game, gutted no Kameo 2 for One) and Gears of War

    I haven’t played many games online as prefer the old school way of having my mates round enjoying a few beers

    What I do like about PS3 online is I can use itv player and BBC catchup setvices without a fee

    Many companies are hacked, I was properly as dissapointed as eveyone else with the delay in Sony announcing it

    #48 2 years ago
  49. super3001


    360 is best for purpose. psn is cheap and shitty

    #49 2 years ago
  50. Lengendaryboss

    Like MS u-turn on your words, how fitting.

    #50 2 years ago
  51. Eregol

    @49 Constructive argument.
    Seriously, you’re doing well. Keep it up.

    #51 2 years ago
  52. TF_PtMaster

    This is probably the stupid discussion ever….

    How is this a competition? Yoshida just answered a few questions on twitter like he does all the time.

    Another stupid thing you don’t play for multiplayer, you pay for a service, that includes multiplayer and other things, well if you live outside US and pay for Xbox Live is pretty much. But that is not the point. Xbox Live and PS Plus are services.

    What i’m seeing is, Xbox Fanboys in need of bashing and downsizing everything Sony does, says, give, etc, because Microsoft was r@pped in E3.

    I don’t give a f#ck who is wining. I want booth to be successful, because if one fails we will eat only from one. This generation was the best in history, because Sony lost their monopoly, and we had two companies fighting to deliver the best value to consumers. Microsoft did a fantastic job with Xbox Live, delivering the best way i could find to play multiplayer games and chat with friends. After the hacking situation on PSN, and Kaz Hirai as SONY President we saw a more open company. They tried everything to apology to their fans. PS Plus is a superb service, i have spent 100€ in PS PLus for two years, and i’ve got so many games for free. Is usual to find myself playing PS3 and speaking with my friends in Xbox Live. This is how we can get the best of two worlds.

    Microsoft tried to rip-off all the consumers with Xbox One, this is a fact. They wanted to sell a service for 499€, with rented add-ons (games) for 60€. Where consumers did not had a choice of how and when to use the rented service.

    Xbox fanboys are so blind they want to fight for everything. Haters grow up.

    #52 2 years ago

    Well, that may well be very nice, but you won’t be able to use it record any multiplayer gameplay without a PS+ sub, will you?

    #53 2 years ago
  54. monkeygourmet


    Good point! Ha! :)

    I didn’t even think about that. I wonder if they’ll do things like adding adverts before your stream?

    You can pay a small fee to remove them? Stuff like that… Similar to Youtube now.

    So maybe, before your COD clip, there’s a 30 second ad for DLc or something?

    #54 2 years ago
  55. smithy2483

    @53 multiplayer doesnt neccessary mean online… But yes you’d be right I guess

    Can’t see me using this apart from uploading funny glitches in games, normally fifa is good for odd glitches

    #55 2 years ago
  56. laughing-gravy

    This isn’t even news they already confirmed this earlier on this year. @53 You will in FTP games they don’t require a sub. Look at Planetside 2.

    #56 2 years ago
  57. TF_PtMaster

    @53 of course you can. You can record local multiplayer :). Imagine you are playing a FIFA match with your buddies in your place, you can record that multiplayer moment -.-”’.

    #57 2 years ago
  58. Cobra951

    One more point for Sony, as I said in the related XBO comment thread. This should be a system feature, not a paid-subscription feature. Sony has it right, MS wrong. Simple as that to me.

    #58 2 years ago
  59. TF_PtMaster

    @56 made a good point. We have 5 or 6 announced free to play games outside PS Plus.

    So it’s possible to record multiplayer online games without a PS Plus subscription.

    #59 2 years ago
  60. deathm00n

    @LegendaryBoss I don’t undestand you. One moment you say to not feed the trolls. But you are their biggest feeder. They are getting into your nerves. Just let it go.

    @53 Yeah, so what? To record a multiplayer you need to play it. To play it you need to pay. Common sense. But you can still record singleplayer, so it’s +1 to sony when put against the Xbox that need to pay to record anything at all.

    #60 2 years ago
  61. laughing-gravy

    @59 :-)

    #61 2 years ago
  62. Lengendaryboss

    Sometimes its hard not to when they U-turn on their words, so you have to call them out on it. Trolls don’t affect me i just find it funny when they U-turn on their words when it suits them

    That advice was for others to understand and the argument was proof that trolls u-turn on their words when necessary.

    #62 2 years ago
  63. Djoenz

    Like microsoft lmao. Its a troll company.

    #63 2 years ago
  64. Dragon246

    Its clear that MS wants to force people to buy Gold, with Sony being lesser of the 2 evils in this case.
    2 180s make a 360. They can do a 180 anytime, which makes them a bit unreliable.

    #64 2 years ago
  65. monkeygourmet

    So much squirming being done on the lead up to next gen! :)

    (that goes for all 3 companies)

    #65 2 years ago
  66. Djoenz

    Im sticking to current gen man. . Im sick and. tired already of this next gen battle. . they are all fucking up. .

    Perhaps along the line when a game comes along I just need to play I might buy a next gen console until then GTAV on PS3 here I come baby!

    #66 2 years ago
  67. monkeygourmet


    I wonder how many people are thinking the same thing?

    There are soooo many classic games on the 360 / PS3 and alot of the first gen PS4 / Xbone titles (COD, AC, BF4 etc…) are multiplatform too.

    Not to mention stuff like GT6 and GTA 5 as you’ve said.

    Maybe some competition for Xbone / PS4 will potentially come from the 360 / PS3.

    #67 2 years ago
  68. Dragon246

    Me too for sometime. In my case I just don’t have time for one more console. Hell, I have around 5 plus Vita games sitting on my account.
    Plus animes, plus whatever else that piques my interest.
    Its just that there are only 24 hours in a day :(

    #68 2 years ago
  69. Djoenz

    Off from work finally.
    Guys download this for the ultimate media solution:

    It catogorizes all your media including metadata aka covers, descriptions etc. Its awesome sauce.

    #69 2 years ago
  70. Joe Musashi

    Djoenz – I’ve been using Plex for around 18 months. Absolutely fantastic product. :)

    Love it.


    #70 2 years ago
  71. FuntimeBen

    This is sensible and makes me feel good. Thanks SONY for not nickel and dimeing us like Microsoft. The paywall that Microsoft has for services that SHOULD be standard is unacceptable.

    “Hey! You want to record your games? Well we’ve put in a dedicated chip that records your video, which you are paying for, but you have to pay another fee to use it!”

    Thanks, but no thanks.

    #71 2 years ago
  72. noamlol2

    good guy yoshida: making sure the competition is for the consumer

    #72 2 years ago
  73. SplatteredHouse
    “What is it, exactly, that you’re getting with Xbox Live Gold? The right to access services that you already pay for. “

    #73 2 years ago
  74. RageOfThorn

    Sony has my purchase 100%.

    They have proven loyalty to the customers. They have proven respect of privacy. They have proven the value of the products they create….

    I still have my original PS3, runs great. I can’t say that for the 5 XBOX 360 consoles my family has went through since November 2006. This isnt counting the repairs I have had done to the current XBOX 360 consoles we now own. I keep my electronics like new, dust free and shiny. There was no excuse for all the equipment failures with the consoles I have owned.

    I was never prone to a system over the other till now. I always seen it as the more the better, but with all the recent privacy concern with Microsoft, bad attitude, and greed ect, I think the decision to even think about the purchase of a XBOX ONE would be a very foolish thought.

    I know Im not alone in these thoughts, the internet is absolutely full of the ramblings. The whole argument, at this point, is the brainwashed beating a dead horse when it comes to Microsoft supporters verses Sony. Im not here for a delusional thought process, or childrens argument. Im here because I love games, stating the point of wanting quality, and the obvious. Sony has not let me down, Microsoft has.

    It boils down to this, when you sit down to play a game would you value your time in the reasurance that you wont have to worry about privacy, system failure, or any kind of nonsense that has been proven very unlikely to happen while playing a Sony console, or would you choose to run the risk with the other not so transparent?

    I say this gen Sony has it in the bag. Honestly the way they care for the fans is enough promise to secure that title.

    #74 2 years ago
  75. Joe Musashi

    Is it true, as #71 suggests, that the DVR/Streaming of the Xbox One is handled through a dedicated part of the hardware?


    #75 2 years ago

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