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Xbox One built with advertising in mind, Kinect integral to next-gen adverts

Thursday, 4th July 2013 12:42 GMT By Dave Cook

Xbox One was designed with advertising in mind, members of the Xbox Live advertising team have confirmed.

Speaking with StickTwiddlers, a number of Microsoft staffers in the Xbox Live advertising division have shed light on the lessons learned through Xbox 360 adverts, and how this will be applied in Xbox One. It also places Kinect as a key part of the strategy.

Confirming that Kinect will use voice and facial recognition to tailor adverts on your console, one unnamed technical account manager said, “With the new Xbox One, the technology and Kinect has improved a lot, so that actually the voice recognition, the way you speak to your Xbox and the transition between gaming and watching TV is a lot smoother, and hopefully we can transpire [sic] that into advertising that we do.”

The strategy goes hand-in-hand with Microsoft’s ‘Nuads’ campaign, which resulted in adverts that housed interactive polls, as a way of making users feel like they were participating in adverts, rather than absorbing them passively.

The Microsoft employee added that Nuads, “transform passive TV advertising into something interactive, immersive, and actionable, redefining the relationship between consumers and brands with amazing new advertising opportunities”.

While this might all sound intrusive and that Kinect is spying on users to sell them products, one of the Microsoft employees stressed that the company does not want the technology and its customers to be abused. However, the volume of data captured by Microsoft and advertisers via Kinect is said to be significantly lower than the information recorded by game developers.

“This sort of works at two levels,” the Microsoft employee added. “There’s the game producers who have a different API, so a different set of code and system that they use, and they’ve got a lot more control of the whole thing, whereas from the advertising point of view we have a slightly more limited set, which is designed to protect the user. The company is very keen on protecting the user from any sort of abuse so we can’t do certain things.”

Because Microsoft is wanting to move Xbox One into the living room of families using Kinect, the device can – for example – recognise when there are many people in a room, and target adverts to families and people of varying ages.

Microsoft’s Senior Digital Art Director/UX Designer explained, “Xbox is moving more outside of the bedroom. We’re seeing much, much more people use it in living rooms where there is family, friends, there is lots going on, so there is a context of perceiving the content.

“It’s not like when you’re at work when you sit in front of a screen and your experience is very personal. But with Xbox, it’s lots of people in front of once big screen. They are playing or watching together and advertising is being consumed in a totally different way.”

They added, “On Xbox, the ad is part of the actual experience, it’s not something that is outside. The only difference is that the advertisement we have is quite small and not disruptive so people are not aware of clicking on the banners because they know this is a part of the whole experience on the dash.

“So the users know that this is something that when they click on it, they won’t be hit by something crazy or something dangerous like on the web. Everything that lands there, we create.”

One source called the development of adverts for Xbox One “exciting”, because, “the 360 console wasn’t built with advertising in mind, it was more of an afterthought, so we’ve had to adapt to the technology and how we work to fit them in to the console, whereas this new one is going to have advertising in mind.

“So a lot of the limitations that we have now, hopefully the release of the boundaries will widened so the opportunities will be a lot greater.”

What do you make of Microsoft’s attempts to target adverts to players using Kinect? Let us know below.

Thanks NowGamer and OXM.

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156 Comments

  1. Fethennour

    “Because Microsoft is wanting to move Xbox One into the living room of families using Kinect, the device can – for example – recognise when there are many people in a room, and target adverts to families and people of varying ages.”

    Good, good.

    #1 1 year ago
  2. Pytox

    that is why i wont get the one

    #2 1 year ago
  3. Biscuitpants

    as if adverts actually bother you to the point that you wont buy a console, sad as fuck

    #3 1 year ago
  4. Superfrog

    I’m sure consumer response to this will be entirely positive. NOT.

    #4 1 year ago
  5. someguy2

    @3 It’s more of the fact that it’s a £429 system that makes you pay a monthly subscription to play online and then they go and put adverts on it too.

    #5 1 year ago
  6. manamana

    Congratulations XB1 users, you will be part of a great experience!
    Make yourself at home!

    #6 1 year ago
  7. Blue Oni

    Ok this is it.I don’t want this thing anywhere near my house.Seriously fuck this shit.

    #7 1 year ago
  8. karma

    “transform passive TV advertising into something interactive, immersive, and actionable, redefining the relationship between consumers and brands with amazing new advertising opportunities”.

    You see, this is exactly why i’m jumping M$ sinking ship before next gen hits. I mean fer fucks sakes, where are the priorities. They still have the gumption to charge for xbox live while still raking in advertising money. And what benefit does that have to the gamer?

    And super targeted ads that are always watching and listening. FUCK OFF! to that I say.

    Sorry for the language, but that is BS.. They’re asking us to pay to be advertised to.

    #8 1 year ago
  9. OwnedWhenStoned

    Ha! I was never thinking about getting one of these, but damn Microsoft are doing a terrible job of selling it.

    #9 1 year ago
  10. Biscuitpants

    @5 Like your computer? like 99% of websites? like tvs? adverts arnt even a problem, just you guys are picky as out
    http://i.imgur.com/8skC2Ts.gif

    #10 1 year ago
  11. manamana

    The Xbox Live advertising team is working for Sony! LOLOLOLOL!

    #11 1 year ago
  12. manamana

    @10 only you can not install Ad-blockers on the Xbox180, can you? And on TV you can choose to skip channel, can’t you?

    #12 1 year ago
  13. OwnedWhenStoned

    @10. I think the expectation is, if you pay a subscription, the adverts go away. That’s the usual model.

    #13 1 year ago
  14. Digital Bamboo

    The gems just keeps coming:

    “The company is very keen on protecting the user from any sort of abuse so we can’t do certain things.”

    So, if it weren’t for the company, this guy would be all for abusing the users? That’s what it sounds like.

    This whole thing is some fucked Minority Report shit.

    @10 Yep, I hate all ads. Who watches TV anymore?

    #14 1 year ago
  15. Pytox

    @10 I guess you are the only person who likes ads?

    #15 1 year ago
  16. Biscuitpants

    @13 yeah but you pay for electricity, you pay for the internet, you pay for tv subscription yet you get adverts on almost all of those things, im not saying i like adverts or anything but i just dont get why people get mad over stupid shit like this, fuck even psn has adverts

    #16 1 year ago
  17. Biscuitpants

    @12 and you can just play a game cant you?

    #17 1 year ago
  18. CyberMarco

    @Biscuitpants

    You ignorant noob. Let me point some really interesting things that were said in this arcticle.

    “But with Xbox, it’s lots of people in front of once big screen. They are playing or watching together and advertising is being consumed in a totally different way.”

    Key word here is “consume”, C O N S U M E. The wet dream of any capitalistic corporation in this world is to have zombie-like consumers who all that they care about is to buy buy buy, get get get, consumerism in all its glory.

    “On Xbox, the ad is part of the actual experience, it’s not something that is outside.”

    WoW! Never before was I wanting an actual advertising experience with my products, thanks MS!

    And the best has yet to come.

    “The only difference is that the advertisement we have is quite small and not disruptive SO PEOPLE ARE NOT A-W-A-R-E OF CLICKING ON THE BANNERS because they know this is a part of the whole experience on the dash.”

    Yiiiiiiiha! Bingo, jack-pot. More mindless consuming zombies that their ignorance has reached new uncharted levels.

    Seriously MS and industry in general, fuck off. And people who still buy shit like this, please make yourself a favor and be more educated consumers…

    #18 1 year ago
  19. ps3fanboy

    micro$hafts continue giving the fail.. and the xbots drones still praising with ass up face down, LOL!

    #19 1 year ago
  20. OwnedWhenStoned

    @16 Pretty much my point on the TV subscription. I think it’s ridiculous that you give Sky (or whoever) so much and you still get adverts. It’s gouging.

    There’s no ads on Netflix.

    #20 1 year ago
  21. karma

    #10: Advertising on TV or the internet most of time pays for content delivery. Keeping sites like this one running.

    What are MS spending that ad money on, if you are already paying for xbox live service? Not to mention the complete invasion of your privacy.

    “surveillance – a watch kept over a person, group, etc., especially over a suspect, prisoner, or the like: The suspects were under police surveillance.” – Dictionary.com

    #21 1 year ago
  22. CyberMarco

    Also lobotomy must be the new trend now, huh?

    #22 1 year ago
  23. ps3fanboy

    ChunkyLover112 where ar thou noaw?… the micro$hafts need you, LOL!

    #23 1 year ago
  24. LordDjinn

    Hmm why havent sony fallen to this level?? Big business is big business, microsoft makes a killing on xbox live, i mean to charge to let you watch your netflix after you pay for it, man, and the claim for a much better experience, im sorry its almost the same experience.. the lag, immature net base, pretty much the same. where are they spending it, oh, throwing money at the game developers right??

    sony messed up the launch of ps3, and now they have the better games and most consoles sold compared to the xbox 360. sony trying to do it right..

    #24 1 year ago
  25. Joe Musashi

    I can appreciate this gets a negative reaction. But I struggle to find anything in the entertainment field these days that isn’t drenched in adverts. I think, for the most part, videogames have not been as badly affected by adverts as they might have been. Yet.

    Theoretically, adverts subsidise the costs passed onto the consumer too.

    This message has been brought to you courtesy of Doritos and Mountain Dew.

    JM

    #25 1 year ago
  26. MFBB

    Getting worse and worse for Microsoft every week.

    How can they put so much annyoing things into the new Xbox and fail so hard with revealing it all.

    I am looking forward to Gamescone.

    What bad news are we gonne find out there about the fail box.

    #26 1 year ago
  27. OwnedWhenStoned

    @25 Theoretically, yes. But unfortunately these days they just see it as another revenue stream.

    #27 1 year ago
  28. LordDjinn

    So does Microsoft care about it’s gamers?? I know sony tries to.

    #28 1 year ago
  29. CPC_RedDawn

    Yet ONE more reason not to buy this machine. If people can seriously sit there at their keyboards and still say that they will are delusional.

    This is just even more nails in their coffin, they really need to sort out their PR team and fast(yet if you ask me its far too late now).

    1) the machine itself looks hideous, sure the PS4 is no arty farty box but at least it has some design to it rather than a square box this needs addressing.

    2) The “exclusives” they showed at E3 majority of which turned out to be running on Dev Kits, or actual PC’s. Also they look nowhere near next gen apart from that slo-mo trailer with the boat and the women. But even then that was pre recorded footage using the in game engine so not real time. This needs addressing as well, saying you are spending a billion dollars on exclusives is one thing but only showing about five of them that turn out to be on other platforms is a little, well silly.

    3) Back tracking on your polices is a good thing for the consumer and means that you are showing your fears and weaknesses. Now I completely hated the 24-hour check in and the used games now that is gone it is great. But this IS where the industry is heading and if someone as powerful and big as Microsoft get scared when people attack “change” then this change will never happen properly. If Sony were doing it as well you can bet that no polocies would have changed. They need to address who speaks, what they say, and how they say it as no one has a clue on the power of the hardware and its functions and policies. Get your own facts straight pure and simple.

    4) Advertising is a great, but using to throw stuff down peoples throats is wrong. Using peoples info and private details is wrong as well. Using it to give something back to the player is the best way possible. Who here wouldn’t mind a game like GTAV for half price if on the loading screens there was an advert for Coca Cola? Or in game whilst driving there are actual real adverts/billboard/raido spots, etc that are real world adverts for real world products which then gives the player a cheaper and more believable game. Not filling up someones dashboard with adverts of crisps just because in their bio they say they like crisps.

    5) EMBRACE INDIE!!! With the indie scene thriving on PC and also Sony now opening their doors and saying “come on in, make yourselves at home!” is basically kicking Microsoft in the junk and giving gamers what they want. A rich library of new innovative games at a cheap price that they can play whilst giving first time developers the chance to show what they can do. Microsoft, SHORT THIS SHIT OUT!

    If they tackle all the issues above, the advertising is still a hit or miss and even my idea would not be welcome for some people. But at least it gives something back to the gamer in terms of a cheaper game or even a free game if there was adverts that DONT infringe upon gameplay.

    #29 1 year ago
  30. mistermogul

    Xbox Live should be free with ads, or paid with no ads. Both = fail.

    #30 1 year ago
  31. actuallyisnotafox

    now thats what im taking about! everybody loves adverts, so why not add a gaming device such as the kinect and bam! greatest combination ever…

    #31 1 year ago
  32. stretch215

    How is this bad news? You people act like ads aren’t useful. I’d rather get ads that are somewhat personalized vs. ads that are generalized and obtuse. You motherfuckers will complain about anything! “Gamers” are the most entitled, whiny group in society.

    #32 1 year ago
  33. Ekona

    A way of making advertising less intrusive rather than massive banners or breaks in entertainment sounds fine to me. I await with interest to see it in action, rather than blindly decry it as unwanted as being raped by a hippo.

    Twice.

    #33 1 year ago
  34. OrbitMonkey

    I admire the fact that MS always focus 100% on their goals…

    Of course their goal nowadays is being evil… EVIL!

    :)

    #34 1 year ago
  35. CyberMarco

    @stretch215

    You idiot can’t get it can you? These companies use specifically crafted advertisement that is aimed to each individual to make you an impulse buyer, triggering your subconscious to consume even if you don’t have any particular need of the said product. Man you are ignorant!

    #35 1 year ago
  36. manamana

    @32 I already pay for everything so I prefer no ads while gaming *at all*, thank you.

    #36 1 year ago
  37. SplatteredHouse

    Ban this sick filth. This is not a drill. Make for the life-rafts. Women and children first! Dive, dive!
    The dashboards came first …
    __—/o/
    __
    __

    #37 1 year ago
  38. stretch215

    @29 the ads will be on the dashboard, obviously. Do you really think the ads will be in-game? Lol! Also your wall of text (which has been said about a thousand times by about a thousand people) is a waste because nobody cares. People will buy what they want, and a lot of people want an xbx1. Deal with it. Also Sony’s e3 was a snorefest, imo. I was on the fence going in, but sony has zero exclusives I’m interested in. My wife literally fell asleep during their conference!
    I’ll grab a ps4 around summertime probably, but they could’ve had me at launch if they brought the games.

    #38 1 year ago
  39. LordDjinn

    I hate advertisements, even if it is something i want.. hulu and kfc did it one time and it made me want a chicken little, that was the only time it was okay.

    #39 1 year ago
  40. actuallyisnotafox

    @35 yeah like why are there advertisments for a car and stuff on a video game console ._.

    #40 1 year ago
  41. noamlol2

    fuck adds and fuck the kinect

    micorsoft you want my hard eanred cash? drop the bullshit

    #41 1 year ago
  42. manamana

    @38 she fell asleep because it was 3 in the morning I reckon?

    /Ba-dum tshhh!

    #42 1 year ago
  43. SplatteredHouse

    “so people are not aware of clicking on the banners because they know this is a part of the whole experience on the dash.”

    Is this a joke? That’s not ok. You’re monetizing, in order to monetize from monetizing now. Just get lost, Microsoft. More lost, that is.

    #43 1 year ago
  44. stretch215

    @35 calling people names show’s a serious lack of vocabulary/ intelligence. You sir, are an “idiot” if you believe what you typed. “Subconscious impulse buyer” LOL. You actually believe that? I’ve never in my life bought anything I didn’t need or want. Ever. It must only work on weak-minded game blog stalkers like you.

    #44 1 year ago
  45. diggidy

    I work in digital advertising and everyday I feel like a slimy, slippery snake that was sent to earth to destroy mankind

    #45 1 year ago
  46. CyberMarco

    @40

    To give you an example, when there is a Champion League football game you always see ads for cars, alcoholic drinks and stuff that is targeting mostly an adult male audience. When there are cartoons on TV you see toys and kids stuff, it’s that simple.

    Now take that schematic and apply it on everyone’s consuming habit and you’ll get the idea.

    #46 1 year ago
  47. CyberMarco

    @44 lol, I didn’t mention that you were part of that demographic but is commonly know that the industries work like that. Just go get a bit of education on the matter and you’ll get the point. You are probably too naive or too ignorant…

    #47 1 year ago
  48. SplatteredHouse

    @45: https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/5793130752/hA31697D9/ Behold, the Exorkitteh.

    #48 1 year ago
  49. stretch215

    “Now take that schematic and apply it on everyone’s consuming habit and you’ll get the idea.” I think it’s brilliant. If ads can show me things that I’ll actually want, sign me up. Especially since the ads will be optional and non- intrusive. This is not a big deal.

    #49 1 year ago
  50. CyberMarco

    @49

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEjVpgLkeFg

    #50 1 year ago
  51. SplatteredHouse

    @49 The concept of having paid for something in full already hasn’t yet occurred to you? Also, if it’s a “service”, then doesn’t there need to be an opt out.

    #51 1 year ago
  52. ps3fanboy

    oh, come on xbots why you so silent?… where is your micro$hafts praise now, are you choking on your own dribble?, LOL!

    #52 1 year ago
  53. stretch215

    @47 you don’t know me to say what I am. I doubt you even know the definition of the words naive and ignorant. I am plenty “educated” on the matter. Educated enough to know that you speak foolishness. People cannot be made into “impulse buyers”. Being impulsive is a behavioral trait acquired at birth. Unless these ads can alter your brain chemistry, they can’t “make” you into anything.

    #53 1 year ago
  54. CyberMarco

    @52 Go back to your hole…

    #54 1 year ago
  55. CyberMarco

    @53

    http://lifehacker.com/how-stores-manipulate-your-senses-so-you-spend-more-mon-475987594

    Why am I dealing with this shit…?

    #55 1 year ago
  56. ChunkyLover112

    I knew that.

    #56 1 year ago
  57. ps3fanboy

    @56 ChunkyLover112, no moar praise you lost your tongue?, let me remind you of your own dribble…

    “Microsoft has always been and still is amazing. This is so cool!

    With the Xbox One coming, I fail to see why Sony is even trying with the ps4. They’re soo going to fail. I almost feel sorry for them as a company. ”

    the butthurts must be big now for you xbot, when micro$hafts shat all over the xbone with ads, LOL!

    #57 1 year ago
  58. mistermogul

    @44 – Do you not believe that impulse purchases are real? How about subliminal messages/advertising?

    I don’t think Marco was implying “I’ve never in my life bought anything I didn’t need or want” but you would have at one point or other been swayed by advertising. You may have bought one brand over another for example due to advertising you saw though made no connection to said advert.

    You need to open your mind if you think advertising affects only “weak-minded” people.

    #58 1 year ago
  59. CyberMarco

    @57

    Seriously, do you even communicate with reality? As if my stance wasn’t clear enough…

    @58

    Thanks for making it more clear, it’s a bit hard to communicate with the language barrier and such.

    #59 1 year ago
  60. deathm00n

    @21 Bingo! Ads on Xbox are going to benefit Microsoft and their partners and only them. On the internet each site and their owners + the advertisers are winning money, there’s not a big company behind everything (maybe google, but that’s not the point) earning shitloads of money because they pop up an ad in your face.

    #60 1 year ago
  61. Ge0force

    “On Xbox, the ad is part of the actual experience”

    I guess I’ll go for another experience :)

    #61 1 year ago
  62. LordDjinn

    Oh wow, there are people here trying to educate a failed intellectual.. save the human race, it usually doesnt work.. :/

    #62 1 year ago
  63. DeyDoDoughDontDeyDough

    Nothing new to say, really. Microsoft lost me permanently as a customer back in May.

    #63 1 year ago
  64. mistermogul

    @61, 63 +1

    #64 1 year ago
  65. Ireland Michael

    And just when they were starting to win back a little more traction too…

    I don’t honestly mind ads on the dashboard all that much, as long as they’re ads for video games.

    Mountain Dew and Doritos? No thanks.

    #65 1 year ago
  66. Pytox

    @65 don;t forget Pizza Hut !

    #66 1 year ago
  67. WENDiGO

    @32 Here’s the thing, gamers actually care about how they’re being treated unlike the rest of society. We don’t just throw our money at the screen for just anything. We think first. If a company is doing something that is very bad for gaming, we won’t just accept it, we’ll fight to change it. This is a common practice (to fight for change) in the world. Idk when and why society decided to take everything up the a**.

    #67 1 year ago
  68. ChunkyLover112

    What’s the problem? I fail to see the issue with what they’re doing with Xbox One.

    #68 1 year ago
  69. OrbitMonkey

    Ordered Pizza from dashboard ad…

    100 achievement points.

    :)

    #69 1 year ago
  70. Ireland Michael

    @66 We thankfully don’t have that here. Until recently, we didnt even have Mountain Dew.

    @67 “Here’s the thing, gamers actually care about how they’re being treated unlike the rest of society. We don’t just throw our money at the screen for just anything. We think first.”

    You must be part of a very different gaming culture to the one I’ve been exposed to for the past few decades then…

    You have a severely overinflated perspective of this industry’s userbase.

    #70 1 year ago
  71. LordDjinn

    @ChunkyLover112 said straight from the horses mouth. “I fail to see the issue with what they’re doing with Xbox One.”

    One of the uneducated masses.. did you miss everything??

    #71 1 year ago
  72. TheBlackHole

    You’re all talking like Sony don’t advertise on their consoles… have any of you actually used a PS3?

    Not talking about your plans for something doesn’t make you any less ‘evil’. Sony are just not as good at making money out of them.

    #72 1 year ago
  73. TrickyAudio

    3rd console curse is real.

    #73 1 year ago
  74. ChunkyLover112

    #71: I did not. But you clearly did. Have you even read the article?

    #74 1 year ago
  75. CyberMarco

    @72

    What exactly does Sony advertise on the PS3?

    Also, don’t you worry if Sony follows suit I’ll be the first in the line with the pitchfork!

    #75 1 year ago
  76. LordDjinn

    @Ireland Michael it actually takes a pretty big thing to get us gamers all riled up and attempt to fight back, would make this the only thing i can come up with right now as an example. :/

    #76 1 year ago
  77. ps3fanboy

    @74 ChunkyLover112, just continue to eat your doritos and drink your mountain dew… don’t worry everything is okay in your fantasyland, LOL!

    #77 1 year ago
  78. LordDjinn

    @CyberMarco Once again, truly deserving of digital goods. they advertise their games, and shit on PSN. sometimes their tv apps.

    @ChunkyLover112 if you are referring to the article, rather than just nearly everything a lot of people are pissed off about Microsoft’s handling of their new console, then let me spell it out for you, they are stuffing anything they can think of to make this console more appealing to win back the people that they lost!

    Reversed DRM, strange usage for the kinect and not being able to turn it off, leaving everything behind a paywall so you may use your already paid for tv apps, throwing in headsets for whatever reason, insulting those gamers that didnt like the check-in (get an xbox 360) the horrible damage control..

    #78 1 year ago
  79. Ireland Michael

    @76 Thats because it would take too much for most to stop scoffing down the Doritos and Mountain Dew, get up off the couch, take off the headset, and actually take action.

    #79 1 year ago
  80. salarta

    Well no shit, I thought it was pretty obvious that the forced inclusion of Kinect as a requirement for system operation made it obvious that advertising was the core reason for its presence. Nice to see them admit it though.

    #80 1 year ago
  81. LordDjinn

    #79Ireland Michael this is true, i have yet to see an article where someone died because they couldnt stop watching tv. lol

    #81 1 year ago
  82. CyberMarco

    @LordDjinn

    …Oh you!

    #82 1 year ago
  83. Fin

    I’ve a minor issue about how the wrong context could be taken with one of the quotes:

    “hopefully we can transpire [sic] that into advertising that we do.”

    Rather than being “we can integrate advertising into that”, it might mean “hopefully we’ll be able to convey this experience when we produce adverts about it”.

    Minor point, the Acct Manager does say “whereas this new one is going to have advertising in mind” later.

    #83 1 year ago
  84. Tecknologee

    @ps3fanboy: is there a reason why I shouldn’t get someone to give you an Xbox Restraining Order or a Banhammer?

    #84 1 year ago
  85. deathm00n

    @75 I think he is refering to the “News” item in the XMB, wich is totally out of the way of the games section and only advertises things that you can actually buy on the PSN store and not some pizzas ad. Totally intrusive ads you know.

    #85 1 year ago
  86. CyberMarco

    @85

    Right, Sony highlighting the best picks from PSN, what a sacrilege… -.-

    #86 1 year ago
  87. MCTJim

    Why is it that people think the dashboard is going to be littered with pop ups and adverts when its not like that now. Sure there are adverts for games and stuff when you shop, but not like some people are making this out to be like. Tailor made for my pleasure will just enhance my xbox live experience.

    #87 1 year ago
  88. deathm00n

    @86 Totally pisses me off to know the game I want is on sale, damm you sony, don’t you see I’m trying to game here?

    #88 1 year ago
  89. CyberMarco

    @88 :P

    #89 1 year ago
  90. SplatteredHouse

    @78 absolutely. And you don’t need a high concept algorithm to tell you that if I’m using PS3, then learning about game/entertainment selections I may have overlooked, or are on offer, is unlikely to prove unwelcome. Sony’s entertainment network is one of the better parts of their range, after games.

    #90 1 year ago
  91. SplatteredHouse

    You already paid for it, Jim. That cluttered, interrupted, segmented experience, of yours.

    #91 1 year ago
  92. MCTJim

    Well I still dont ever remember being bombarded with adverts on my Xbox live dashboard…really I cannot recall having a mountain dew or doritos advert ever pop up.

    As for segmented, I am not sure what you mean, dashboard is smooth and flowing like it should be…ah well, to each his own really.

    #92 1 year ago
  93. Krakn3dfx1

    Guys, this is going to make games cheaper and the air you breathe cleaner, beautiful women will want to talk to you…ok, maybe not, but it will make your skin clear up just by standing in front of it as much as possible. We all want clearer skin and cheaper games, right? I’m just saying, MS is offering that to you, or at least they’re offering the potential that it could be true seeing that there’s no measurable way for at least a couple of years to prove otherwise. They’re in this for the long game.

    #93 1 year ago
  94. The_Red

    Why they keep doing this? Yes, maybe Kinect 2 was indeed made that way AND is integral to adverts. That’s bad but you DO NOT come out and SAY IT.

    It’s like EA screaming “Sim City’s online was integral in our DRM plans”. That was true but they talked about always-online being part of design / calculations.

    #94 1 year ago
  95. SlayerGT

    And there it is.

    #95 1 year ago
  96. For Blood

    I remember a simpler time when video game consoles did not bombard you with ads. If I want ads I’ll watch tv or surf the internet or maybe stare at a billboard. I bought a game console for games. Last time I heard it was a video game console, not an advertising console.

    #96 1 year ago
  97. Bomba Luigi

    To Quote #94: “That’s bad but you DO NOT come out and SAY IT.”

    Thats the Point I too don’t understand. Thats stuff you try to hide under a Rock and let someone writing a book with tons of good sounding Reasons and Excuses just in Case People find something out about it.

    Why in the World should it be a good Idea to tell this the Internet?

    #97 1 year ago
  98. super3001

    dont care. an ad on the dash dont bother me

    non-issue

    #98 1 year ago
  99. deathm00n

    @97 Maybe there’s worst things in hiding and this isn’t bad at all… THE HORROR!

    #99 1 year ago
  100. Useful Pseudonym

    This is wrong, wrong, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McAeQiLmEYU (Wrong)

    #100 1 year ago
  101. Moonwalker1982

    I am honestly disappointed in VG247 that they allow this idiot called Ps3fanboy to still be posting his drivel.

    #101 1 year ago
  102. lookingglass

    Personalized advertising has always been a plus for me. While no advertising would be the best, the world runs on adverts. At the very least I’ll stop getting ads for Viagra and Retirement Homes and get more tech and food ads. Mmmm food.

    #102 1 year ago
  103. KoojoPanda

    Still running these BS ads on a paid service? Ridiculous.

    #103 1 year ago
  104. sg1974

    @101

    There are plenty of idiots on VG247, of which PS3Fanboy is only one. Let’s not single out one while ignoring the others. Either we don’t want any of them here, or we let all of them continue being idiots.

    #104 1 year ago
  105. MegaGeek1

    @101 – relax and try not to loose sleep or give yourself an aneurysm. Its called the Internet.

    #105 1 year ago
  106. ps3fanboy

    @101 Moonwalker1982, shut it you butthurt xbot… i bet you will be the first in the line with your pitchforks, if this was sony.

    @104 sg1974, jumping in the middle of an argument your not a part of, and start acting like a smart ass. only make YOU the idiot, if you have nothing to contribute with in the discussion, keep it shut IDIOT!.

    #106 1 year ago
  107. Lengendaryboss

    @PS3fanboy
    Clean up your sentences, i have seen a eight year old write better and when someone younger than you writes better, theres is something wrong in the head of that individual :D

    #107 1 year ago
  108. ps3fanboy

    welcome back legendarychump, where have you been?… you have been missing out big time here at vg247 today… its been hectic at the trenches, the xbots have been cryen big time. micro$haft have shat all over the xbone with ads, so they could afford to include cheap ass plastic headset in the box, LOL…

    #108 1 year ago
  109. Lengendaryboss

    @PS3fanboy
    Busy with The Last Of Us and PS Plus Offerings, but as i can see you spew garbage nothing new and people call you out on your biased opinions or dribble.

    Now get help you biased fanboy or cuddle up with your wife, oh in fact save the wife from physical agony by keeping your distance :D

    #109 1 year ago
  110. Eddie Rodrigues

    @108 You’re not funny. Just stop.

    #110 1 year ago
  111. ps3fanboy

    @legendarychump, your insults is not up to your usually standards today, i am a bit disappointed to be honest. is the air to thick in your man cave?, if so i suggest you open the windows and give it another shot. you can do better than this chump :)

    #111 1 year ago
  112. Lengendaryboss

    @111
    My usual standards? I am not keen on insults its only used when in a bad mood/or when necessary. I am in a passive mood so you will have to get your fill elsewhere.

    #112 1 year ago
  113. polygem

    adbox one it is. good that they finally just tell it like it is – but now combine all this with prism too! absolutely unbuyable system. i wouldn´t even take it if they´d pay me 5000 euros. seriously…and the problem starts even earlier. there´shouldn´t be any ads at all on a paid service. they pretend that it´s totally normal – it´s not. unbelieveably arrogant corporate bullshit. ms are not about games at all. man, i want a strong sony, nintendo and another sega console again and ms should just die.

    @ms: a big major FUCK YOU once again from someone who has spent thousands of euros on your systems. not anymore. i am ashamed that i supported your stuff and defended it that often.
    not anymore.

    #113 1 year ago
  114. CyberMarco

    @113

    There is always time for redemption! :P

    #114 1 year ago
  115. shaolinsword

    Adverts on a service that you’re required to pay for? Awesome!

    I know companies don’t care about the individual but the trend of demanding someone pay to use their console in full is starting to put me off gaming

    #115 1 year ago
  116. polygem

    @114:

    :)

    indeed.

    i will get rid of my 360 and the games this month too. serioulsy. i am THAT pissed.

    not that it changes anything tho.

    #116 1 year ago
  117. CyberMarco

    @116

    Yeah, I get your point but it would go in vein to sell all your backlog, for what happened MS is to blame, but at least you can say you spent your time well with the XBox 360, now to new ventures. Off you go!

    #117 1 year ago
  118. Lengendaryboss

    @Polygem
    Sticking it to the man i see :)

    #118 1 year ago
  119. polygem

    i´ve had my time with the 360 and i´m really really done with that thing now :)

    it was a great ride. posted a thx for that and a goodbye on live already right after the xone was first revealed with all it´s tv blingbling. i knew from there on it would only get worse and well it did…even much more than i expected.

    now is the time…

    it´s alright.

    goodbye.

    #119 1 year ago
  120. ps3fanboy

    @119 let me be the first to welcome you to camp sony :D

    #120 1 year ago
  121. xAKUM3TSUx

    @PS3fanboy:

    It’s people like you that make Sony look bad…wait never mind, you make yourself look bad. Seriously tho’ how does spouting BS everyday help the PS community? I’m PS4 all the way but if every person I met online was like you then the Xbox One is looking pretty good. Take my advice: sit down, take a deep breath, and think about the how much you’re hurting the community you love so much. Last time I checked being a fanboy to anything makes YOU biased. I’ve had my fair share of Xbox 360 and by now I know how great PS4 looks. You have to notice that saying “shit” only makes people avoid it.

    #121 1 year ago
  122. Lengendaryboss

    @120
    I bet that means absolutely nothing to no-one, being in a camp with you is exactly the same as being locked up in a mental asylum :D Edit: Listen to 121.

    @Polygem
    Look like its truly the end of the road.

    #122 1 year ago
  123. Ireland Michael

    @122 You drag it out by continuing to respond to him. If you didn’t take his bait, he would have nothing to reel in.

    #123 1 year ago
  124. deathm00n

    @122 Like Ireland Michael said, don’t even try, I was a troll in another comunity once (mind that I was a teen with a existencial crysis and a lot of spare time), if you answer to a troll you just give him the pleasure to write even more, it’s a sad condition, there’s psicological problems behind it probably and you can’t change it from here, he need to seek help on his own. The best is to leave him alone.

    #124 1 year ago
  125. OrbitMonkey

    @125, They enjoy it. Why would they stop?

    #125 1 year ago
  126. Lengendaryboss

    @Michael
    Firstly I am not the only one, very certain others responded to him in other articles and the forums. Secondly if nothing is going to be done and he ain’t going anywhere then ignoring him is just futile, sure i could ignore him but others won’t heed that advice. Lastly as VG247 get new members no-one will take that advice.

    Sadly people will continue to acknowledge his existence and there ain’t nothing that can be done.

    #126 1 year ago
  127. Dahak

    I’ve been a microsoft supporter since the original xbox but lately they’re really showing they’re true colors as an arrogrant,money hungry company.If charging wasn’t enough for live they add ads of top of it and with that drm stuff and the cable crap it was about money.I know companies are suppose to want to make money but damn you can get too greedy.I’m ready to join sony for next gen i can’t support them now.

    #127 1 year ago
  128. Noodlemanny

    I’m with lookingglass with this. I really don’t care. Sometimes ads can actually help me find material that I actually want, hell thats what their there for. Without ads I wouldn’t have know about ‘The Worlds End’ and you’d better bet both your butt cheeks I’m seeing that movie as soon as it arrives in the cinema.

    #128 1 year ago
  129. Lengendaryboss

    @128
    That part i can agree about, Ads are very useful for finding about stuff i wouldn’t normally find out by myself. Like finding out what song is used in an ad or another product in a background. Ads actually can motivate you to find out about a product.

    #129 1 year ago
  130. JGMR

    Corporate slaves. Waiting for a corporation to tell ya what the world is about.

    #130 1 year ago
  131. silverstorm

    Didn’t pat ban ps3fanboy? He’s gotta go ASAP.

    #131 1 year ago
  132. mark_t50

    I can obviously only speak for myself, but I find the thoughts of an always on camera and mic watching me and my family disturbing. Heck, even if they want to monitor us for the purpose of sending targeted ads that’s still creepy as heck in my book.

    Here is the thing though, if Microsoft and these advert agencies have faith that this service will be of genuine benefit to consumers, then why not allow it to be turned off ? If it is really so great then most people will want to use it surely ? In which case a simple ‘Do you want adverts: yes/no’ in the XboxOne options screen should suffice. That way those people who don’t give a crap can leave them on, those that are bothered can turn them off.

    Fingers crossed that they allow consumers to have a choice in this matter, otherwise it will just be another reason for me to choose a different machine for my entertainment needs later this year.

    #132 1 year ago
  133. Lengendaryboss

    @131
    He worded it that way, but clearly not.

    #133 1 year ago
  134. buddynugget

    I noticed it said “players” in the article from the writers perspective. I dont think what the MS advertising team is talking about is advertisements in gaming I believe its primarily when viewing TV, music and movie content. I like the idea of targeted advertisements. Although i believe some people will take this as XB1 advertising mops and products i think itll be more suited to gaming and entertainment only. Of course aside from the random promotional sales sponsered by a certain company. From what ive read we will be able to control the amount of data and specific types of data if any at all during the setup process of the XB1. I like this because im sure there are certain aspects i might want to opt out of. Microsoft has clearly described privacy security on many occasions. Im glad thats the one thing they got across clearly lol. Im very much looking forward to seeing the XB1 at my doorstep on launch day and the PS4 in the following months its going to be a great next generation of gaming consoles. Heres to the future mates!

    #134 1 year ago
  135. buddynugget

    @polygem you dont think PS4 will have advertisements? they absolutely will. i think your taking this all wrong. targeted advertisements for games that you might like based on your gender age and purchase history. Same goes with movies and music. I really think this article is more about their TV and media side of the XB1. Time will tell though. No need to rage out in the comment section of something we still dont know enough about. Hopefully Gamescom will be MSs time to shine. Rumored they will be explaining policies showing new games and possibly announcing the official release date. Very excited. Sony is also doing the same. we got another 6 weeks til that pops off. Raging will be permitted when all the facts are known :D lol

    #135 1 year ago
  136. MegaGeek1

    I cant believe what I’m reading in this comment section! Aside from the hilarious flame wars, people are pissed about the just the ads?! What about the fucking camera that is looking at you, analyzing god only knows what, and spamming your family subliminally with ads based on the results of those analysis.

    I have so many paranoid questions that I dont even know where to begin. Titan Fall be damned, you couldn’t give me this machine for free!

    #136 1 year ago
  137. MegaGeek1

    Between Kinect 2.0, Facebook, and Google search results, Cyberdyne could go online tomorrow and we would all be fucked.

    #137 1 year ago
  138. gsxrlove

    The way I see it, the X-box1 was created as a money making machine first and then just before announcing it, they made it possible to play games.

    #138 1 year ago
  139. DarkElfa

    @123, Michael, you know better than to think that he needs anyone to respond in order to spout gibberish nonsense.

    #139 1 year ago
  140. ChunkyLover112

    People, Xbox One is first and foremost a gaming console. Stop being PS fanboys!

    #140 1 year ago
  141. GK15

    If it isn’t painfully obvious, this article is just bait written by a PS fanboy to get clicks and incite a flame war.

    The article is written in such a way as to only make you say “fuck Xbox.” Seriously, when I buy this thing and all is see are FORCED ads that I don’t want to watch, I will be the first one in line to say fuck Xbox. I can assure you however, this will not be the case. There will be NO ads that distract you from navigating the menus or playing your games.

    Shame on the Xbox idiot that gave this interview btw. How are gamers supposed to react? The ads will likely go largely unnoticed, much like they were on the 360.

    And does it really take a sophisticated sensor to “count” the number of people in the room and throw a more family friendly OPTIONAL ad in the corner? This isn’t news, its flame bait. I wish I could give the article a thumbs down. Fanboys shouldn’t be allowed to write articles.

    #141 1 year ago
  142. DeyDoDoughDontDeyDough

    To balance out the opinions of the two Microsoft employees who just posted before me: fuck Xbox One.

    Microsoft has a lot of valuable lessons to learn here.

    -If Kinect 2.0 is even worth our time other than a tracking, data mining device, why is Ryse now controller only? How did that conversation happen? ‘Okay, Kinect just isn’t working for this game, so here’s Kinect 2. Shit. It still doesn’t work and we don’t want gamers to see that bang on launch day. Make it controller only.’

    -If Microsoft did every single thing it needs to do to make the console competitive – welcome indies, open platform, drop price, no kinect, headset in box, more powerful GPU, faster memory, less OS overheads, free games every month – if it did all that, it would still only draw equal to PS4. And that brings the choice down to which company’s behaviour is more deserving of your money? Into whose hands do you wish to impart the future of your favourite pastime?

    I, for one, no longer trust that Microsoft has my interests at heart, do you?

    Like them, loathe them, whatever. Sony is going in the direction I want to see gaming go. Microsoft’s console is just an underpowered Trojan money vampire and I want neither a part of it, nor do I wish to vote for it with my wallet. I vote against.

    Mattrick and his team has destroyed 11 years of steadily built trust and brand loyalty. Destroyed it. And that’s never coming back. Not for me.

    #142 1 year ago
  143. polygem

    @143, DDDDDD:

    “I, for one, no longer trust that Microsoft has my interests at heart, do you?

    Like them, loathe them, whatever. Sony is going in the direction I want to see gaming go. Microsoft’s console is just an underpowered Trojan money vampire and I want neither a part of it, nor do I wish to vote for it with my wallet. I vote against.

    Mattrick and his team has destroyed 11 years of steadily built trust and brand loyalty. Destroyed it. And that’s never coming back. Not for me.”

    totally nailed it!

    @135: the moment playstation will have other than purely gaming related ads i´m out.

    @142: the ads on the 360 are forced on me already. i never wanted them. i hate them. there was chevrolet, bose, mc donalds etc! no way i will tolerate these on a service i paid for. this has nothing to do with gaming at all. i see gaming as a fun and awesome way of escapism. ads do not belong there. it´s just wrong. the moment the ads came to live i didn´t renew my gold. this month i will sell my 360 and i will never look back.

    cannot believe some of you guys are swallowing all this…just cannot believe it.

    #143 1 year ago
  144. aprotosis

    @144 So regardless of one’s take on this “console war”, I have checked the ads on both platforms before when this conversation comes up and more often than not, the PSN has more garbage ads than the 360. However, not to be apocryphal I went ahead and checked right now. Not counting ads that are alerting people to appropriate services, (Like the Castle Crashers ad on 360 or the Last of Us ad on the PSN) each system is currently sporting only one ad that is out of place. Which is pretty good by any measure. The 360 has a Metric/Mazda ad and the PSN is still trying to push a branded credit card. Both of these even are questionable since Metric would almost count as music-based which is a service they provide and the credit card is branded with the Playstation logo but both are actually not confined to the console’s ecosystems.

    However both have had their share of cell phone ads, cars and soft drinks. Let’s not pretend either company has our best interest at heart with these. Yes, the ads don’t go away if you are a gold subscriber. They don’t go away if you are a PS+ subscriber either.

    This is really nothing new. The article is flame bait, and the repost here is click bait for this site’s own advertisements. Let’s not pretend to be upset by any of these policies and just admit it is still pointless flag waving and chanting in an echo-chamber.

    #144 1 year ago
  145. polygem

    @145:

    seriously??? because there are no ads at all on the german psn. nothing. none. nada. only game related ones in the “what´s new” section.

    if that´s the case and it´ll come to psn Germany as well i am seriously honestly going wiiu pc.

    i wont tolerate this stuff.

    #145 1 year ago
  146. LordDjinn

    Terminator references.. Immaturity.. intellectuals attempting to educate the uneducated.. good heavens this is the internet.. :/

    #146 1 year ago
  147. super3001

    145

    excellent post. you actually did research and result in unbias factual way

    wish vg staff would do the same it shuts stupid fanboys mouth

    fact> all

    #147 1 year ago
  148. DeyDoDoughDontDeyDough

    I’m loving this new trend: “If your post is anti-Xbox One, your opinion is biased and therefore no longer valid.”

    Which is exactly like:

    “Only the true messiah denies his divinity.”
    “Okay, then I am the messiah.”
    “HE IS THE MESSIAH!”

    Microsoft deserves the most damning criticism. It deserves not to sell a single console. Calling out people for complaining about Xbox One’s numerous inadequacies is to call for blind fanaticism and for the abolition of critical thought.

    It is to say, ‘I am a sheep, and you should be too.’

    Sorry. Few wolves about these parts.

    #148 1 year ago
  149. super3001

    149

    your opinion nothing more

    #149 1 year ago
  150. DeyDoDoughDontDeyDough

    @150

    How appropriate. You fight like a cow.

    #150 1 year ago
  151. Lengendaryboss

    @Super
    Get help, the person at 145 is also stating his opinion as well. There is no facts to back up his point.

    Xbox Live: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sr8SPduWwjw
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUjRgGIWhmU

    PSN: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsk5B_PkeC0

    #151 1 year ago
  152. Maabren

    @ aprotosis

    Ain’t ads on PSN, why bother telling lies about this. Maybe ads on Xbox Live disturbing your mind?

    On topic.
    As for those shitty moves by MS, XO looks even worse than a bucket full of shit. Kinect and adverts are like MS telling gamers, “deal with it, you don’t have a choise”. That make me feel like XO is “game over”, and only choise left showing MS no money at all. That’s sad.

    #152 1 year ago
  153. gargus

    Reason number 513 as to why I don’t want an xbox one. “Made for advertising”. Personally I don’t want advertising in a product I have to pay a premium price for. Sell me an xbox one for 50 bucks and you can advertise on it, I wont pay attention to them because I cant go 90 seconds of any day without being slapped with advertising someway in me, but you can put it in there.

    Yeah the PS3 has advertising on it also but its very small amount. Usually just the scrolling text in the upper right hand corner of my XMB, shockingly enough it isn’t disruptive or distracting or annoying. I don’t mind it being there, hell sometimes I even pay attention to it.

    If Microsoft wants me to pay 500 bucks for a xb1 I should have 0% advertising on the system.

    Microsoft is as stupid as Hulu where hulu wants you to pay for their premium service and yet still puts commercials on it.

    #153 1 year ago
  154. snoopsnoop

    @145

    I have never seen an ad on the psn network that wasn’t related to playstation in some way or the other. I have never seen a cell phone, car or soft drink add, EVER. Please post your proof of this. A screen shot from a camera or phone will suffice. Please do not reply with insults or arguments as none of that is considered proof and will only make you look like a liar who is trying to justify a point. If you do show proof then your point is noted.

    #154 1 year ago
  155. DrDamn

    @145
    Are you talking about websites rather than the console front ends? I’ve never seen a non-gaming advert on the XMB either. You only see games ads in What’s New? and even that can be avoided. I think the Live Dashboard ads become fairly easy to ignore after a while, but the UI design doesn’t help. Unless you have something pinned or it’s on disc it’s a pain to get to. Meaning you have to ignore a lot of crap to get there. I end up using the mini-guide as much as possible to avoid it.

    #155 1 year ago
  156. Djoenz

    “built with advertising in mind”
    “built with tv in mind”

    Great gaming machine. Its all about revenue with these guys. No passion. Deals deals and deals.

    #156 1 year ago

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