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Forza 5 anti-aliasing still an issue unless developing at 4k

Friday, 28 June 2013 17:34 GMT By Stephany Nunneley

Forza 5 has had a bit of spit polish over Forza 4 and according to Turn 10′s Dan Greenawalt, the next-gen title run swimmingly on your big TV, but don’t expect anti-aliasing issues to be non-existent unless you are running 4K.

Speaking with VG247′s Sam Clay at E3, Greenawalt said while some things have changed technically between the two iterations of the racer, some players may still experience a bit of an issue with anti-aliasing – but mainly when it comes to things such as louvers. And there’s a reason why this happens, according to Greenawalt.

“Yes, it’s changed with Foza 5 but the biggest [cause] is the cars, especially the ones with louvers on the back,” he said. “When you have a really bright sky it’s going to create a high contrast which makes lines look jagged. So, what we had with Froza 4, was a game that was running at 720p and now with Forza 5 we have 1080p and 60fps and there’s a lot of post processing going on as well.

“So, is that going to solve the jaggy line issue entirely? I think it will still be there in the louvers because it would look that way even with a digital camera. While we’ve taken big leaps and bounds with tech, the idea of completely eliminating the jagged lines technically, it would require a 4K resolution or something like that.”

Greenawalt also explained the game’s tech to Sam a bit, and you can hear more about it through the video posted earlier.

Forza 5 is an Xbox One launch title expected in November.

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31 Comments

  1. ps3fanboy

    so what was it they actually showed at e3 then?… yes that was right, it was pcs…

    Xbox One Games At E3 Were Running On Windows 7 With Nvidia GTX Cards
    http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Xbox-One-Games-E3-Were-Running-Windows-7-With-Nvidia-GTX-Cards-56737.html

    so they haven’t shown shit of what the real xbone will be able to deliver. the xbots are yet again being taken on for another ride on the lie train…

    and here we are the flagship of the xbone the forza 5. will now have anti-aliasing issue if it can’t be run at 4k. one thing we know for sure is that a game like forza5 will never be able to run at 4k on the xbone.

    so talk about grand delusion….. micro$hafts at their best, enuff said.

    #1 2 years ago
  2. monkeygourmet

    @1

    Forza and Ryse are confirmed running on Xbone. You should keep your yap under control, I wouldn’t want to draw everyone’s attention to the fact that Forza shits all over Driveclub from a grand old height if I were you. :)

    #2 2 years ago
  3. Erthazus

    Bullshit. To completely remove jagged lines and stuff requires 16 multisample Anti-Aliasing

    that Xbone can’t do because of it’s hardware. Well, actually it can do but games quality will be not impressive.

    #3 2 years ago
  4. ps3fanboy

    @2 they haven even run forza on the real xbone yet and they talk about anti-aliasing issue… while driverclub have been running of the ps4 hw. it says it all who is the real shit and that is forza.

    #4 2 years ago
  5. monkeygourmet

    @4

    If it was running on GTX cards and high end PC’s, do you think they would be talking about limitations?

    Think for a second…

    It’s confirmed 1080p and 60fps, which is more than can be said about drive club at the moment…

    #5 2 years ago
  6. monkeygourmet

    @3

    Yeah, it’s bullshit, but we know neither the PS4 or Xbone will be capable of the features you mentioned! :)

    #6 2 years ago
  7. ps3fanboy

    sony haven’t promised any 4k. but we know driver club was run on the actually ps4 hw, and the ps4 is more powerful… so i would really like to see the forza5 run on the real hw and do a comparison. you can bet your ass on that forza will not be anything like the fantastic demo they showed, that is for sure…

    #7 2 years ago
  8. CyberMarco

    @ps3fanboy – weren’t you supposed to be banned?

    #8 2 years ago
  9. ps3fanboy

    @9 me banned why?.. i haven’t done anything wrong here.

    #9 2 years ago
  10. Moonwalker1982

    @9

    You haven’t done anything wrong? Kid you deserve to get permabanned for your ridiculous nonsense. Driveclub was on PS4 yeah, it also struggled bigtime mantaining a 30 frames per second and it looked quite bad too according to Digital Foundry. Oh that’s right, both Killer Instinct and Forza 5 were running on Xbox One hardware and both were 60fps @1080p. Yes go cry now. Don’t spread misinformation boy. It has been confirmed multiple times that those games were running ON X1 hardware.

    It’s beyond me why they don’t ban you.

    #10 2 years ago
  11. ps3fanboy

    @10 it is you that are misinformed butt weed. read what is in the link then… and get down from you shining high horse and stop this act of holier than holy. i haven’t done anything wrong.

    #11 2 years ago
  12. Gigabomber

    I love PS3, but once I put Forza in the disk tray, it was clearly the best racer ever created. Sorry, no system war is going to change that it is a better series outright. Go ahead, play it and say different.

    #12 2 years ago
  13. monkeygourmet

    @11

    You just called yourself a butt weed. You don’t even like yourself, lol

    #13 2 years ago
  14. silverstorm

    @12 + 1000000

    #14 2 years ago
  15. MFBB

    But the fanboy is right with Micrsofot trying to mislead us and running all there game demos on PCs (thats quite the joke…telling us how good and powerful it is blabla and then using PCs..

    Sony actually showed everything on the PS4 even so some games were clearly not ready yet (like the Aassassins Creed framedrops/stuttering).

    I have not actually seen XboxOne footage yet and that does concern me.

    Want to see everything before I decide which console to buy next year.

    Overall Micrsoft is doing so much wrong with this XboxOne reveal…such a mess.

    But I will wait and see whats up next year :)

    Currently my money goes to Sony.

    #15 2 years ago
  16. ps3fanboy

    @15 thanks finally someone with sense here. micro$haft didn’t show anything on their xbone. so until they do they can just keep shut, they are for sure not helping their cause with more lies and fud. i hoped that micro$haft would play fair after the draconian drm fiasco, but its turning into a new rrod fiasco. its all lies lies lies… and throw more money at it and deny everything. people should wake up and take a step back, because this ain’t helping any gamer.

    by the way good you did go for the ps4, you will not regret that :)

    #16 2 years ago
  17. machy

    Waoooaw chill out guys @1 is speacking of truth even M$ confirmed it and i cant see vg24/7 without @ps3fanyboy (Y)

    #17 2 years ago
  18. Lengendaryboss

    Oh jesus did i miss Ps3fanboy dribble? :)

    #18 2 years ago
  19. xxJPRACERxx

    @12 Depends on what you’re looking for. If you want a nice game with semi-realistic physics, horrible over-contrasted picture and insane amount of buffering in the steering and nice car customization and painting then Forza 4 is pretty good.

    If you want a game with much more realistic driving physics, controls, picture and track selection then GT5 (and soon GT6) is the game to get.

    For me the most important thing in these type of games is what happen on the track. On the track GT is king.

    #19 2 years ago
  20. pukem0n

    holy shit, the comments here are infested more and more with those stupid fanboys.

    its getting really painful to read the comments on this site, but also you cant stay away somehow.
    its like a train wreck :)

    whenever i have a shitty day at work i look at what ps3fanboy wrote and think to myself: “there is some idiot who takes the time to bash a piece of plastic every minute of his life” and i instantly feel better. so thank you for that

    #20 2 years ago
  21. nollie4545

    1080P and 60fps means jack, the QUALITY pre-sets are what matter. Anti-aliasing is just a blanket term, the exact form in involved is what counts. All PC gamers know this. AA or AAA just isn’t the same as MSAA x4.etc etc.

    #21 2 years ago
  22. fearmonkey

    Cmon guys, why all the trash talking about Driveclub? We haven’t really seen that much of it, its months away, and it seems to not be in the same category of racers that Forza is in, more like need for speed, or Test drive, or Burnout:Paradise. Im not really a big racing guy, and I never could get into the Forza or PGR series, I have always preferred Rallysport games like rallysport Challenge or the Dirt games, but Driveclub could be fun.

    Forza is a established franchise from a developer who has made previous games in the series, Driveclub is a new IP.

    Forza would be better compared to a Gran Turismo game, which is years away.

    However MS did show games running on high end PC’s, but developers have stated certain games ran on dev kits. Until we see them reviewed and in our hands, all this trash talk is just baloney, we have really no idea how its going.

    #22 2 years ago
  23. SlayerGT

    @22 Right? I’m still waiting on Pat’s impressions on DriveClub.

    #23 2 years ago
  24. bennyx

    Ps3fanboy you make my day.
    Right game fans here it is,when the games come out then we can judge and then we will know who is bullshitting who,plain and simple!!
    MS were running most of their games on high endPC’s but only time will tell if they will look as good.
    Long live the gamer!

    #24 2 years ago
  25. Cobra951

    I don’t believe proper antialiasing can’t be done at 1080p, even louvers. He’s copping out, probably because of current tech limitations. The system is new, and it will take a while to get the best out of it (like any other console gen).

    #25 2 years ago
  26. Keivz

    Wow, vg247 has become saturated with the uninformed. People, please read the DF article on eurogamer about what was and wasn’t running on XO hardware before spreading more misinformation. Forza 5, and several other titles, were in fact running on the XO.

    #26 2 years ago
  27. karma

    What, no infinite power of the cloud?

    #27 2 years ago
  28. Lengendaryboss

    @27
    http://thebubble.com.ar/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/clap.gif

    http://www.abload.de/img/untitled-1zgaok.gif

    #28 2 years ago
  29. frdjck

    @27 Good one :)

    Don’t trust what Microsoft are saying. Major Nelson lie to Angry Joe about DRM being impossible to remove and then Microsoft announcing that they are removing their DRM one week later is a good example. They are in PR mode and they will say anything to look good. Distorted truth is not truth, it’s lie. Please don’t fall for it Xbone fan.

    #29 2 years ago
  30. sh4dow

    @3: Surely, you meant supersampling? ;)

    At least I found all other AA methods I have tried unsatisfactory. And while it seems ATI drivers can’t do 16xSSAA, I at least still saw quite a difference between 8xSSAA and 8xSSAA+EQAA. Or 8xEQSSAA or however one may abbreviate that.
    (Unfortunately, even Mirror’s Edge runs at only 30-40fps with the latter settings…on an 7970GE)

    #30 2 years ago
  31. monkeygourmet

    @22

    I know what you mean… But then, what’s the point?

    Do we need a game like drive club? Especially if it looks shit next to NFS, Forza and GT… What is its purpose? It may as well be an IOS app…

    I have no idea why they didn’t create an absolutely kick ass Motorstorm using a combination of jungle / destruction tech they had from the previous games… That would have been a perfect graphics showcase.

    I feel there studio was ‘sideswiped’ with this game, and they don’t have any conviction in it. It was basically sent out to compete with Forza and will obviously fail…

    Taking one for the team, springs to mind…

    #31 2 years ago

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  • Destiny: how does the road ahead look?

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  • GTA 5 patch 1.09 improves Heists matchmaking

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  • Diablo 3, Dragon Age: Inquisition, and more make up this week’s Deals with Gold

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  • GTA 5: parallax occlusion mapping is gone, but framerate is better

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  • The Witcher 3 dev: DirectX 12 may not have impact on Xbox One games resolution

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  • Get infinite items in Bloodborne with this duplication glitch

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  • Destiny weekly reset for March 31: Heroic and Nightfall strikes detailed

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  • Motivational Growth is the first non-documentary film to be released on Steam

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  • Metal Gear Solid movie in the works at Sony Pictures

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  • Destiny: Inferno mode returns this week with Inferno Clash

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  • Bladestorm: how 28 rogue ninja conquered Brittany

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  • First Bloodborne speedrun is in, game finished in under 45 minutes

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  • Advanced Warfare Infection gameplay shows the new map, monsters, extraction mechanic

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  • Hotline Miami collector’s edition is close, 50% already achieved

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  • Woah Dave will be an extra free PS+ game on PS4 in April

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  • Mortal Kombat X: three international tourneys announced, $100,000 prize pool

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  • Project CARS to receive a free car every month, starting with the Lykan Hypersport

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  • Leaked Halo Online gameplay shows weapons, maps, and more

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  • Get PlayStation 4 with the PS Camera and The Last of Us for $399

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  • Dragon Age: Inquisition Jaws of Hakkon DLC comes to PS4 in May

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  • Watch Rainbow Six Siege developers stream new gameplay right now

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  • Advanced Warfare Exo Zombie Infected trailer shows new weapons, massive enemy

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  • Rainbow Six Siege collector’s edition comes with a 120-page field manual

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  • Rainbow Six Siege trailer is all about the operators

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  • Spotify now available on PS3 and PS4, lets you play music in the background

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  • Let’s talk Battlefield Hardline weapon balance

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  • UK Charts: Bloodborne enters at No. 2, Battlefield Hardline defends No. 1 spot

    Battlefield Hardline has defended the No. 1 spot in the UK Charts against Bloodborne’s impressive numbers. The UK Charts for the week ending March 28 show Battlefield Hardline continuing to hold the top spot despite dropping 43% in sales. Bloodborne achieved the No. 2 spot and came only 22,500 copies short of becoming number 1. […]

  • Halo 5: Guardians release date and new trailers released

    Halo 5 is coming in October. Are you ready? Halo 5: Guardians has been slapped with a release date of October 27. Microsoft and 343 Industries also released a new trailer to mark the news; check it out below. “The Master Chief. Spartan Locke. Who is the hunter and who is the hunted?” Microsoft said […]

  • Denial wins Call of Duty Championship 2015

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  • Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare Ascendance DLC- check out new maps and the grapple ability

    Advanced Warfare’s Ascendance DLC is looking pretty sweet in these two new videos. The Call of Duty Championships this weekend have given our very own Arekkz a chance to check out the new Ascendance DLC coming this month. Take a look at all four new maps as well as the cool new grapple ability (which […]

  • Advanced Warfare’s Exo Zombies gets a “mini boss” with Ascendance DLC

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  • GTA Online user videos show out of character Lester, important Police Business

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  • Guild Wars 2 devs explain how the Map Bonus system, precursor crafting work in Heart of Thorns

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  • Fly around your creations in Cities: Skylines with the Flight Cimulator mod

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  • The Walking Dead, Better Call Saul arrive on PlayStation Vue

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  • Play the first level of Super Mario 64 in your browser

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  • Steam’s Discovery Update has helped increase revenue for smaller titles

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  • Halo: The Master Chief Collection April update includes “more ranked playlists”

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  • Get Spec Ops: The Line for free through 2K Games sale on Humble Store

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  • Dota 2 The International 2015 tickets are sold out

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