Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy 13 will contain “elements” similar to Dark Souls

Thursday, 20th June 2013 21:07 GMT By Stephany Nunneley

Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy 13 will contain some “elements” similar to Dark Souls, according to producer Yoshinori Kitase, in terms of “severity” at least.

Speaking with Famitsu, Kitase said players will also have to carefully manage cash and other resources. So while it will contain a “higher degree of freedom” than its predecessors, “thinking economically will be very important,” added director Motomu Toriyama.

“If I were to describe the gameplay, I would say there are some elements with the severity of Dark Souls,” said Kitase.

The two also confirmed that the 13-day in-game time limit is the maximum amount of time players can have as the game starts with a seven-day limit.

Players must complete all missions and quests to earn the full 13 days.

Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy 13 is out in the west during February 2014 on PS3 and Xbox 360.

Thanks, Kotaku.



  1. noamlol2

    final fagtasy can never be better then dark souls

    just sayin…

    #1 2 years ago
  2. Mr Sparkle

    @1 Apples and oranges…

    #2 2 years ago
  3. salarta

    I facepalmed so hard, I no longer have a head.

    I don’t believe this for a second. Because it’s a Toriyama game, and Toriyama games always involve openly lying to consumers to trick them into buying garbage. It’s the way these people think and act, it’s ingrained into them and their corporate culture, and it’s one of the reasons that made me stop buying Squeenix products.

    But even if I pretended that this wasn’t exaggerations and lies, there’s no way in hell that this game will be similar to Dark Souls. Kitase may as well have called this a “Dark Souls Killer” and just immediately confirmed it would be a huge failure. Any time a company tries to claim a game they’re making will be like another much more popular and renowned game, only somehow better, they’re promising to disappoint you.

    It happened when JRPGs were the craze and everything professed itself to be a Final Fantasy killer. It happened with World of Warcraft, and every MMO saying they’d be even better than WoW.

    #3 2 years ago
  4. Vhexx

    You are implying that Dark Souls is a more popular and renown game then the FF series, which is not. The thing is FF has mad mistakes with games but they have still sold enough in their own rights (maybe not always in US) and obviously are trying to learn from their mistakes as seen with FF 15/ 14 ARR etc.

    Every company will eventually make a game or series you don’t like and people will continue to do what you are doing without really thinking about it. At the end of the day marketing is marketing and we will never really know what the game will feel like until it is released. At least argue with factual knowledge instead of just blabbering.

    #4 2 years ago
  5. salarta

    @4: You’re protecting the FF13 games under the umbrella of the FF franchise as a whole. In terms of sales numbers and even in terms of mainstream popularity, I’m sure FF13 wins out solely because it had enough of a marketing push and the franchise brand is well-known enough that more people took notice of it. However, in terms of gamer and critic acclaim, Dark Souls is most definitely far more popular and renowned than any of the FF13 games.

    I’ve thought about it quite a bit, and it’s not a matter of whether or not I like FF13. I’ve conceded that perhaps if it was a brand new IP, it might have been fine. But it’s not. The key things FF13 focused on went completely against the very things that the franchise had kept intact for two decades all the way up to and including FF12. And even disregarding that, anything involving Toriyama has a track record of people lying about their intentions and making up terrible excuses for why they did certain things. Toriyama claimed Aya Brea would be a cool, mature woman in 3rd Birthday, only to make her look like a pathetic, immature wuss. FF13 got criticism for being too linear, he claimed that the story was oh so important that linearity was necessary. FF13 also got criticism for no HD towns, and Toriyama bullshitted that HD towns were impossible to make.

    He’s not the type of person that should be writing or directing entries into series like Final Fantasy or Parasite Eve, and Lightning Returns is just another attempt to justify keeping him on board doing the awful stuff he does. Maybe let him make brand new IPs and let the people that like his quality of work buy it, but that’s about it.

    #5 2 years ago
  6. Rosseu

    Nice try, but we’re still not interested in this crappy game.

    #6 2 years ago
  7. Clupula

    @5 – FIrst, stop ranting about Toriyama and the 3rd Birthday. Do you talk like in offline conversations? It’s ridiculous what a weird obsession you have with those things. It’s fairly creepy actually.

    Second, sales numbers would certainly speak differently of your point about FFXIII.

    Third, when you talk about FFXIII without having played it, it seriously makes you seem like a dumbass. You’re ranting about there being no towns, when the game itself, if you had actually played it, has two towns, complete with NPC’s. They just don’t have shops or anything like that, since your characters are on the run and it wouldn’t make sense for you to just be mingling with the population.

    In fact, I see you also talking about how linear the game is, when the only people who complain about that are the ones who never beat it. Since, like every Final Fantasy game, at a certain point it opens up considerably. Sure, with this one, it’s about 15 hours in, instead of 3 or 4 like a lot of the others, but it is there.

    Stop, trying to talk like you’re an expert on things that just make you seem like you don’t know your ass from a hole in the ground.

    #7 2 years ago
  8. fihar

    Don’t jump to conclusions.
    He’s merely stating that the game will contain some elements of Dark Souls.
    Dragon Age: Origins contains some elements of FFXII, but you don’t exactly find them to be similar, do you?

    Give them the benefit of doubt for once, from what I’ve seen so far, the game looked to be quite interesting. Not entirely sure about the 13-days limit though.

    #8 2 years ago
  9. redwood

    this is bad PR. this will only make them look as if they are desperate :(

    #9 2 years ago
  10. Metroid455

    ugh never liked demon/Dark souls no thanks, this,the 13 day in game time limit and a one character party, Congrats Square you’ve done a wonderful job at making me NOT INTERESTED AT ALL

    #10 2 years ago
  11. machy

    FF >>> DS #fact

    #11 2 years ago
  12. salarta

    @8: Yes, but there’s a difference between two games having similar elements, and someone from the team more or less saying (not a direct quote) “Our game will have elements that are like this other game everyone loves so much.” Even if I’m extremely generous toward Squeenix and any project involving FF13 and Toriyama specifically, that’s still a bad, bad sign. It encourages people to start judging the game based on the standard set by some other game, and it will inevitably fail to measure up.

    #12 2 years ago
  13. fihar

    So? If you want to take inspirations from a certain work, might as well give credits where they’re due.

    If people want to compare the two, it’s their prerogative. Although I doubt anyone on their right mind would compare Lightning Returns to Dark Souls even after this.

    #13 2 years ago

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