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Xbox One is basically Steam in console format, claims anonymous MS engineer – rumor

Saturday, 15 June 2013 20:31 GMT By Stephany Nunneley

A person claiming to be an engineer working on Xbox One has compared the new console from Microsoft to Steam only in a console format – over on Pastebin no less.

Pastebin has become very popular of late, even a PR talking points/canned answer document on Xbox One was posted through Pastebin over the weekend.

Basically, if you go through the entire wall of text posted regarding Xbox One and DRM – the majority of which is posted on Neowin – you will see statements such as:

“The goal is to move to digital downloads, but Gamestop, Walmart, Target, Amazon are KIND OF FUCKING ENTRENCHED in the industry. They have a lot of power, and the shift has to be gradual. Long term goal is steam for consoles. [...] If you always want to stay with what you have, then keep current consoles, or a PS4. We’re TRYING to move the industry forwards towards digital distribution… it’sa bumpy road..”

and…

“The thing is we suck at telling the story. The whole point of the DRM switch from disc based to cloud based is to kill disc swapping, scratched discs, bringing discs to friends house, trade-ins for shit value with nothign going back to developers, and high game costs. If you want games cheaper then 59.99, you have to limit used games somehow. Steam’s model requires a limited used game model.

“The DRM is really really similar to steam… You can login anywhere and play your games, anyone in your house can play with the family xbox. The only diff is steam you have to sign in before playing, and Xbox does it automatically at night for you (once per 24 hours). It’s a long tail strategy, just like steam. Steam had it’s growing pains at the beginning with all it’s drm shit as well. [...] For digital downloads steam had no real competition at the time, they were competing against boxed sales. At the time people were pretty irate about steam, (on 4chan too…) It was only once they had a digital marketplace with DRM that was locked down to prevent sharing that they could do super discounted shit.”

and also…

“Everyone and their mother complains about how gamestop fucks them on their trade ins, getting 5$ for their used games. We come in trying to find a way to take money out of gamestop, and put some in developers and get you possibly cheaper games and everyone bitches at MS. Well, if you want the fucking from Gamestop, go play PS4.”

So, yeah. We honestly have no idea if this is an actual Microsoft engineer or not: we just tell you things; thus, the rumor tag attached to the post.

But it’s probably fake.

Xbox One is out in November sometime.

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161 Comments

  1. CyberMarco

    Yeah, it grabs all the negatives from Steam, stripping the positive ones, and incorporating them in a closed format.

    Also on Steam, once you downloaded, installed and run your game for the first time, to validate it, you don’t need the Internet ever again. Only to download patches/updates but that is another question.

    #1 2 years ago
  2. DSB

    @1 Yup!

    #2 2 years ago
  3. Erthazus

    Steam does not require 24 hour online shit and you can play games offline and XBL does not offer the same discounts and it’s not fun compared to Steam. Latest cards thing is freakin awesome in Steam.

    #3 2 years ago
  4. NinjaHart

    So basically, they are admitting that Xbox One is going to be a PC consol.

    So if you play games on PC already, no need to waste money on an Xbox One.

    #4 2 years ago
  5. Aullah

    I agree with the used game part. These shops damaging the industry more then pirates. Yarr…

    #5 2 years ago
  6. Dark

    http://www.gameranx.com/updates/id/15439/article/supposed-microsoft-engineer-speaks-out-on-xbox-one-drm-it-s-all-fake/

    #6 2 years ago
  7. CyberMarco

    “Everyone and their mother complains about how gamestop fucks them on their trade ins, getting 5$ for their used games.”

    There always were, are and will be suckers who don’t know how to do a f*cking market research and just venture to shops like sheep going to the slaughterhouse!

    #7 2 years ago
  8. Hcw87

    @4
    There are console exclusives which you’ll never find on PC, like uncharted, Gears, Halo, Last of Us etc. That alone is worth owning a console for.

    Anyway, i’d like MS to finally release their official Xbone specs.

    #8 2 years ago
  9. Bomba Luigi

    When “But the other is doing it too” is your way to justify Thing, then it must be really worse to find good Reasons to justify your Restrictions.

    Thats the way I argued when I was a little Child. And it never worked, never.

    #9 2 years ago
  10. yeoung

    So I guess we’ll be seeing similar pricing models and community support/involvement? Hmm? Right?

    #10 2 years ago
  11. monkeygourmet

    I love the fact their trying to make us angry at those nasty ‘shops’…

    Classic divide and conquer bullshit.

    I’m not defending GameStop or Game by any means, but at least it offers people choice. There’s always ebay or other options too…

    I support my local independent game store, MS may very soon put them out of business.

    This is just getting worse and worse…

    Fuck you MS and anyone trying to put a positive spin on this shitty console.

    #11 2 years ago
  12. SlayerGT

    “Well, if you want the fucking from Gamestop, go play PS4.”

    You got it punk!

    #12 2 years ago
  13. eddy27

    You all did read that word in the heading didn’t you ?, you know the one that said “RUMOR”

    And lol @

    “A person claiming to be an engineer working on Xbox One ”

    #13 2 years ago
  14. Maguire82

    I don’t see the problem with the login once every 24 hours, my pc and consoles even my tv are connected to the internet at all times. I also like the fact that once you put the disc in to your box it saves your game to the cloud so if some one steals your box at least you know your games and save games are safe. I think there are benefits people are over looking.

    #14 2 years ago
  15. Garo

    Lol
    The wolf it trying to dress as a sheep!
    @4 “So if you play games on PC already, no need to waste money on an Xbox One.” U got that right! The only good “exclusive” MS have is TitanFall and is coming to PC!

    #15 2 years ago
  16. salarta

    Pretty much what @1 said, with the extra caveat that Steam games are very often reduced in price compared to the physical item, for the simple reason that there is no physical item involved.

    For all the bullshit “We’re trying to advance the industry” talk the person says, the reality is that Microsoft has to pay Sony for a Blu-Ray device, they don’t want to have to pay Sony for a Blu-Ray device, so they are trying to force a model where Blu-Ray or any other physical media format isn’t involved. It just so happens that it’s also an excellent way for greedy companies to try to kill off things they bitch about 24/7 as excuses for why the games they make that are shitty or have overblown budgets don’t make the kind of money they have wet dreams about.

    Games available in a physical format with no authentication or always-online requirement NEED to exist. It’s important for the video game culture that we aren’t at risk of games lost to the sands of time solely because some greedy types want to make more money and exercise totalitarian authority over what its consumers can and can’t do with their purchases.

    Yeah, claiming “We want to make games cheaper” sounds really nice, it’s just too bad that will NEVER happen. All that will ever happen if used games are gone is that video game prices will skyrocket because the industry doesn’t have to fear a cheaper alternative. It doesn’t matter what the pie in the sky vision of one person is, the cold hard truth is that companies want money, and they’ll do anything they can to get more of it. The loss of used games will only make companies bolder in testing the waters of how expensive they can make games.

    #16 2 years ago
  17. grizzlycake

    @14

    You do realize that a lot of hackers will try to crash XBL. They got PSN to its knees for a month just for Linux support (PSN at the time was most likely not as secure or stable as XBL but still).

    What happens then? You can have internet all the time, but it all depends on their servers being up.

    #17 2 years ago
  18. eddy27

    @15 they have a lot more exclusives on launch than the PS4 and they looked a lot better to me.

    As for games coming to pc you better get used to that happening on the PS4 as well now the architecture is so similar.I bet you won’t mention it once that starts happening though
    A bit like the ones who have gone silent about having to pay a subscription before you can play online on the PS4 now

    #18 2 years ago
  19. Maabren

    If this is the way XO turn out, a Steam-alike but as worse as it get and MS just shouting Deal-with-it, why bother?

    #19 2 years ago
  20. ManuOtaku

    The only main issue i have with the Xbox one is the 24 hour check in, the rest for me is irrelevant, i dont mind having my games installed on the hard drive and then dispatch the disc, because i can control the Access of the games i bought, but with this constant check in i cannot control the Access, they do, even if the prices are low like on steam, i dont want that in my console, i want to control the Access.

    #20 2 years ago
  21. NeutralBlade

    As I stated before, here’s another biased article hoping to convince you to go to the dark side. If they didn’t enforce this garbage on us in the first place, guess what? We wouldn’t need convincing, we would have happily followed MS again; if it wasn’t for Azure.

    Now, they want to claim they’re like Steam, while offering none of the benefits from it. That’s the thing. All these comparisons, but yet, none of the primary benefits of Steam. And one of the biggest differences, is that you don’t have to invest $500 just to get started in Steam, paying full price for a licensed, (not owned), console; along with the fact that there are several competitors in the same digital market on PC, where as $500 locks you into the Xbone platform.

    We won’t be seeing Steam prices on the Xbone, because such low prices would entirely defeat the purpose of Azure; which is to maximize profits. Why go Xbox One, when you can try steam for free on your PC? With the PS4, Wii U, and other consoles, you buy the console, it’s yours, no licensing that can expire or be revoked; the games will play with and without server support.

    It’s like a demon trying to convince you that he’s like an like angel, so hey, it’s ok to join his side. So MS rep, you’re telling us to abandon one of your future “partners”, so you can “fuck” us on prices while you completely control and profit off of second-hand sales? Yes, you’re two-faced, smiling in Gamestop’s face, just waiting for them to turn their back so you can put a knife in it.

    No, you guys are worse than Gamestop, and nothing like the Steam service. We don’t have to embrace your digital-era DRM agenda, simply because your competitors are giving us an entirely new generation to avoid it. Oh yeah, you’re ready to strip every right we have away, as I’m sure MS is foaming at the mouth to make a ton of money off used games. But the point of Azure, is to really eliminate second-hand sales, converting them to new sales instead; effectively eliminating second-hand sellers while funneling all second-hand profits to MS and its partners.

    And all this talk of sharing and logging in from any console. Azure wlll monitor and record data from every console you log into; keeping complete records in the cloud. And each time you log in from another’s console, your system reports in every hour; making sure to tell MS exactly what you’re doing. Simply put, you have no privacy nor freedom, as Azure will rule all.

    Wow, these guys keep burying themselves further and further. Don’t be fooled.. That guy right there, is a wolf in sheep’s clothing. Expect more “convincing” arguments in the future, because MS wants to assimilate you. What a shame.

    @15 Ha ha, I didn’t see your comment before I wrote this. You got that right.

    #21 2 years ago
  22. eddy27

    .

    #22 2 years ago
  23. Sang2

    @8 You do know that most xbox exlusives appear on PC sooner or later, just look at Halo 3 and the new coming Titanfall, even Titanfall will come to PS4 in 2014 I bet.

    #23 2 years ago
  24. For Blood

    You guys want great reasons to not buy an Xbone?

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=9APmJHu8DNs

    He makes amazing points I think we can all relate to.

    #24 2 years ago
  25. Yoshi

    I FUCKING hate people comparing X1 to Steam. They’re nothing alike ffs. Completely two different subjects. One of them is closed off, the other can be upgraded until your hearts contents from now until years to come.

    #25 2 years ago
  26. NiceFellow

    The XBone is a hybrid between Steam and retail stores. It wants to be the former but is shackled to the latter.

    As a result, it offers none of the benefits of either and is stuck with the negatives of both – it’s Steam without the benefits and stronger DRM/restrictions and it’s retail stores physical media centric without the plug/play of disk based consoles of old.

    Quite a feat at this point unless they change their policies fundamentally.

    #26 2 years ago
  27. eddy27

    @24
    Stop posting links to rubbish videos.

    Whoever said you can’t share games-

    Xbox marketing chief Yusuf Mehdi talking with arstechnica.com

    There has been some confusion over the details of sharing your Xbox One game library with up to ten “family members”.

    Mehdi -
    For one, a family member doesn’t have to be a “blood relative”,

    For another, they don’t have to live in the primary owner’s house—I could name a friend that lives 3,000 miles away as one of my “family members” Mehdi said.

    You’ll be able to link other Xbox Live accounts as having shared access to your library when you first set up a system and will also be able to add them later on the only limitation, it seems, is that only one person can be playing the shared copy of a single game at any given time. All in all, this does sound like a pretty convenient feature that’s more workable than simply passing discs around amongst friends who are actually in your area.
    —-
    So 10 people you have named can share your games library and also being a named “Friend” on their list you could share their library and so on, it’s looking pretty good to me.

    #27 2 years ago
  28. For Blood

    @27

    Those 10 people have to be in your house on the same console. To trade over Xbox Live you can trade 1 game 1 time and they have to have been your friends list for 30 days. Another GREAT point he makes is what happens when it doesn’t remain profitable in the future and the servers are taken down? You have yourself a nice shiny blu ray player.

    #28 2 years ago
  29. Stephany Nunneley

    @13 Exactly! :D :D Which is why I hate stuff like this. It really brings out my snark. ;)

    #29 2 years ago
  30. NeutralBlade

    @27 Yeah, until you read the fine print come launch time; or if they choose to disclose additional details on it. This system won’t be abused as a free game service. I’m very sure they already thought about 10 people buying a different game, they create family/group, then they share said games; essentially getting 10 games for the price of one.

    MS wouldn’t have bothered putting such heavy restrictions on transferring your game’s license via trade, (which is a permanent one-time transaction), if they were going to just leave a gaping loophole in the sharing feature. Even if they attempt to limit access to the shared library to two people at a time, it’s still really easy for people to manage that time, and get all these free games.

    MS isn’t going to allow it, as that would defeat the entire purpose of Azure. It would be way too easy for people to get free games legally via loophole, and such a thing would hurt sales considerably more than second-hand games; because there is no additional fee, via said loophole.

    Simply put, this is one potential loophole that isn’t going to be allowed. Such a system would be worse than second-hand sellers and piracy combined; since it’s legal and games can be accessed and played digitally.

    #30 2 years ago
  31. eddy27

    @30

    No let’s not try and make out it say different to what he has said….

    Stop trying to put negative spin on this good news makes me think you are a fanboy.

    @28 go try read the article instead of spouting old rubbish you have read from non MS ,,

    #31 2 years ago
  32. salarta

    @13,29: Yeah, but it’s a rumor that makes points that at least some people are bound to actually believe, possibly even some actual Microsoft engineers.

    #32 2 years ago
  33. NightCrawler1970

    I agreed about saving money on production, put a game on a DVD or blue-ray/game-cover, it might save some $$$$, i also agreed about Game-stop messing up with trade-ins(piece of a pie)

    I also agreed that all mega-stores want to have a piece of a pie too, by selling MS/Sony product in store…
    because for them it’s piles of money they gonna miss if everthing become digital download….

    But there is no reason if ya download a digital copy, that microsoft says, 1 time only, and if ya console is messed up “oh well” buy again and download again(even you have proof of purchase) by e-slip that you received by e-mail, about confirm purchased item..

    thats what PS4 so good about… “you buy it, you own it”.. even ya console messed up, you can always download the purchased game again, and again, and again…

    I red statements from members here, that they had 4x Xbox 360 because RROD…. thats why it’s good to have a DVD player to put the game in, and install a part of it…

    Now that Engineer(prob) the one that twitterd about perminant online…
    open his mouth again with his statement “GO BUY A PS4″ i bet there will be allot of MS-gamers that will take that turn, because of DRM-thing.. and other stuff that MS-Gamers not happy about…

    Oh if you go everthing in digital, make sure you have 500 or more servers to launch it… and not the way that EA/Origin did.. with 1 lousy server for the whole world…

    OR… each mega-store have his own servers, to download at 24:00 local time on the launch-day

    * GAME-STOP
    * WALMART
    * BESTBUY
    * TARGET
    * AMAZON

    They all have there special package, like walmart that comes with $10,- digital giftcard by purchasing a game..
    Game-Stop come with there special PERK
    ECT ECT… but they are responsible for there servers, NOT MS…

    #33 2 years ago
  34. polygem

    “If you want games cheaper then 59.99, you have to limit used games somehow.”

    http://www.vg247.com/2013/06/15/microsoft-to-sell-its-first-party-xbox-one-games-at-current-59-99-price-point/

    confusing. not good. doesn´t make you trustworthy ms.

    i don´t get it – or do they want to tell me, yeah, we first have to kill used games totally and THEN (when those fuckers are finally out of the way and you wont have a chance to trade in your games anymore and we´re the only ones dictating price) we can make the games cheaper for you – right? you want me to believe that. you ms? si claro, sure…thank you in advance! so much!

    i am more than ready for a digital only model or something like steam on consoles. i was even hoping for something like this. but it must be optional. like steam on pc…it´s just an option.
    let me register a game and let me have benefits for that like sharing it with “family” on other consoles, like not needing to put in the disc anymore etc.

    also why didn´t they announce, hey we´re doing this drm stuff but the games will of course become cheaper for you, they will be 49,99 retail and 29,99 digital. what´s the fucking advantage of this…just finally name it ffs.

    all these excuses. i really can´t hear them anymore. stop talking and just show why this stuff is so great. saying it´s like steam while it´s obviously not, doesn´t help to sell the x1 to me, in fact it makes me trust less and less in the x1.

    #34 2 years ago
  35. eddy27

    @33 I have no idea what you are talking about other than

    “and if ya console is messed up “oh well” buy again and download again(even you have proof of purchase) by e-slip that you received by e-mail, about confirm purchased item”

    MS will do exactly as they do now go by your gamertag purchase history, you can also see what you have bought digitally anytime you choose.
    I take it you don’t have xbox live or you would know that.

    #35 2 years ago
  36. For Blood

    @Everyone

    Hasn’t the majority of the rumors about the Xbone proven to be true one way or another? Remember the rumor of having to install games? True. How about being online all the time? Partially true.

    #36 2 years ago
  37. DarkElfa

    Strangely, this has actually made me rethink purchasing a PS4 instead of an X-box.

    #37 2 years ago
  38. NightCrawler1970

    @35, nope, no Xbox, PS3 :P and soon PS4…

    #38 2 years ago
  39. pukem0n

    i dont think all this bitching is gonna change anything.

    buy a PS4, be happy, and shut up :)

    #39 2 years ago
  40. WENDiGO

    This guys made me think that the Xbox is basically a custom restrictive PC with a bad approach at the digital market.

    It is not steam:

    1. You have to pay for XBL
    2. Indies don’t even want to work with you (if anything they do it for the money)
    3. Online requirement every 24 hours or else you can’t even play your games
    4. Your games will cost the same price as retail
    5. You limit the ram to 5gb for gaming and then you’re hoping devs will use the cloud (more online)
    6. Most of the exclusives you shown on stage are a bunch of third parties that you payed to keep it there for a while (sony is in the same boat but at least they have a good amount of studios they own that make high quality exclusives)

    Steam is the opposite of 1-4 the rest are there to prove a point. This guy sounds more like an xbox fan that’s trying to justify the X1 rather than a pro engineer.

    #40 2 years ago
  41. eddy27

    I’m getting an XBox One, maybe a PS4 later when they have more titles released.

    #41 2 years ago
  42. NeutralBlade

    @31 I’m a 360 owner; and currently don’t own a PS3. The majority of my statements are based on facts released from MS themselves. The whole Azure campaign is widely viewed as negative. It’s not an opinion I share alone.

    #42 2 years ago
  43. polygem

    i just checked some german newspapers regarding this issue again. every single one of them points out kinect, saying it´s pretty obvious that they will use kinects data for advertisers saying they must clarify how they will use it and WHAT data they will collect. some even go so far to say they see future restrictions coming, like scanning how many people are in the room so you might need to upgrade tv licenses if too many people are watching at the same time. there are even more ideas about how you can (ab)use the kinect structure. i can understand that people want a new xbox, i was mainly on 360 myself this gen…but right now, with the information we have (and the information we don´t have), with everything, i mean EVERYTHING being so very anti consumer and covered in questionmarks and restictions, i cannot understand how anyone can buy into xbox one already. absolutely cannot understand it – at all.

    #43 2 years ago
  44. xxJPRACERxx

    I own both a Xbox 360 and a PS3. Playing a lot more of PS3 lately. I was planning to get a PS4 but the games coming to the Xbox One are much more interesting for me. So I’ll wait a little to see more of what’s coming up for both consoles before deciding which one I’ll get 1st. But I do know that I’ll end up with both, since there’s exclusives on both I don’t want to miss.

    #44 2 years ago
  45. penniman

    Umm.. Nooo.. I don’t see any similarity between them..

    #45 2 years ago
  46. JB

    @37 Really! Why?

    #46 2 years ago
  47. TheBlackHole

    I’m never surprised by the amount of Bullshit spouted in these comment threads.

    So. Much. Stupid.

    Can we please stop pretending like we know things that haven’t been announced, or worse, make the most inane and unintelligent argument that Microsoft = pure evil, as if it were a single being, rather than thousands of individuals, some of whom genuinely love and care about games?

    I’m not saying they’re perfect by any means, but they are a collective, not a single being.

    #47 2 years ago
  48. Malmer

    @47 Amen!

    #48 2 years ago
  49. OwningXylophone

    @38 & 39

    Astroturfing?

    I don’t honestly believe you are, but hey, I got accused of it yesterday for daring to show an opinion that was vaguely pro-MS (in fact, not even slightly pro-MS, just calling Sony on PR spin), so you guys must be doing it now with your pro-Sony stance, right?

    But on a serious note…

    @Nightcrawler

    “But there is no reason if ya download a digital copy, that microsoft says, 1 time only, and if ya console is messed up “oh well” buy again and download again(even you have proof of purchase) by e-slip that you received by e-mail, about confirm purchased item..”

    You got any proof on that? Or is it just information you are pulling out of your ass? I see no reason why the policy on being able to re-download something you already purchased would change from the 360. Of course if you can prove this then fair enough, but something makes me think this is something you just made up.

    #49 2 years ago
  50. absolutezero

    Have you checked how large the PS3 ROM files are?

    The Last of Us is 32GB. Look forward to sharing that.

    #50 2 years ago
  51. salarta

    @47: Microsoft isn’t a single person, but it IS a single collective entity, and you CAN expect and judge what they’re going to do as a collective and what the reasoning is based on their collective actions. If Chick-Fil-A has done an anti-homosexual act previously, for instance, you can make an accurate guess that they’ll do another one in the future, even if one of the employees says they support homosexual issues.

    The supposed Microsoft engineer (which probably isn’t really one at all) might genuinely believe that Microsoft has these noble aspirations, but what they genuinely believe is different from what Microsoft has proven and suggested of its collective actions in the past.

    #51 2 years ago
  52. orakaa

    You can’t have it both ways. Microsoft has digital downloads for Xbox Live. Are the digital prices lower on Xbox Live? Hell no, it way more expensive than retail versions. If retailers “disappear”, then you can be sure Microsoft (or Sony) will keep the prices up, or even raise them.
    A proprietary console will never be like Steam. Quite the opposite.
    On Steam, you can download your games, activate them and keep playing offline, without being dependent of Steam’s servers or doesn’t have a time limit on your use of your system/games (which will happen when Microsoft move on to their new console and shut Xbox One servers).

    Even in the case where Steam would shut down, you could still manage to get cracks for your games and run them. Not on Xbox One. On this gen, I bought over 100 games, that represent between 2 000 and 4 000 euros. Would I even take the risk to buy a 500 euros console and “invest” on it, knowing that all that money would go to ashes someday or that I couldn’t access my games if my Internet goes down or if I move to a new house? Heck no. Which is why I won’t buy an Xbox One.

    Besides, if I wanted steam, I’d buy my games on my PC, or buy a Steam box and not on consoles. But I have no interest in Steam (not saying it’s a bad system, but just not my cup of tea). At least with Steam you don’t need a 24 hour mandatory check.

    #52 2 years ago
  53. polygem

    @TBH: oh, seriously, right now microsoft just stinks and they deserve the criticism, no need to defend them. if sony would do the same crap they would get the exact same reactions, it´s ms who pulled it off and only they are to blame for it. they prism, they try to force kinect into homes, they try to rip off consumers with drm restrictions and try to dominate and controll the gaming market with that superagressive anti consumer strategy, they support tv sportshow dorito deals only aaa hollywood blockbuster gaming counts. in short, they DO NOT CARE about gaming and basic consumer rights at all. i really don´t know what can be called “good” about them. what is it? please tell me, i´d really like to find out. i loved my 360.
    honestly, i think it´s far too quiet.

    #53 2 years ago
  54. heroes159

    OK guys, EVERYONE NEED TO KNOW THIS. The only Reason u need to connect to internet every 24 hours coz You can trade your played games. Steam does no allow that feature.

    #54 2 years ago
  55. polygem

    but well, whatever…i think i´m done with this discussion. i wont buy into xbox one and i really really hope it wont sell well if they keep things like they are right now. i doubt it though, it could become a success anyway but i don´t think that will be a good day for the gaming industry.

    #55 2 years ago
  56. L.O.R.D

    except..steam can go offline

    #56 2 years ago
  57. salarta

    @54: If I downloaded my game, took my PC offline, went to a friend’s house, set up Steam on his computer and downloaded the game on there, we could both play the game. The Steam model works on this matter because you can only log into your account from a limited number of devices (one) at a time, and the ability to get more games and for fairly cheap compared to physical retail copies would get people to go back online with Steam to get that new content, at which point they could be flagged for having the same account online from two different computers regularly.

    #57 2 years ago
  58. noamlol2

    it’s not steam since you have two payment options
    either buy it stricly from Msoft’s over priced marketplace
    or buy a physical copy

    if you could buy an online game code and redeem it on xbox live
    THEN you could call it “steam like”

    #58 2 years ago
  59. ps3fanboy

    it dosen’t mater both are drm infested shit..so fuck steam and fuck micro$oft. i quit pc gaming in 2004 because of steam and hl2 failure to let me play the single player game offline(for does that remember that fuck up, it was worse than simcity5 shit)… i never forget that shit valve pulled!

    #59 2 years ago
  60. manamana

    Fucking steam comparisson. It’s not like steam! It’s probably meant to be like steam from ten years ago. But:

    A) Steam runs on free hardware (Mac, Linux or PC) that is upgradeable and is therefore already:

    B) futureproof (including already all the games I bought)

    C) I can play my games seven days offline bevor I need to check in again

    D) Steam has a huge catalog of games, mostly fairly cheap (always a lot cheaper than on consoles)

    E) I can download Alpha and Beta versions of games

    F) Huge and very important Mod-community

    And finally: consoles should be plug and play – thats what differanciates them from PC. They shouldn’t restrict offline-gaming.

    #60 2 years ago
  61. Joe_Gamer

    There are so many holes in this comparison that I’m only gonna bother with one, Steam is only ONE online retailer, there are dozens more including M$’s shitty fucking store. M$ will be the only online retailer for their console…monopolies do not benefit consumers.

    #61 2 years ago
  62. OmegaSlayer

    I still don’t understand why “people” have to feel the need to push something down my throat.
    I love having my CDs, my DVDs, my Blu-Rays, my books, my games, I don’t give a damn that they engulf my room.
    I’m not going to spend more than 15 € for something that is not physical.

    Also…I was wondering…since the disc is needed only to “validate” a purchase that you must confirm online, why put a Blu-Ray drive in the console?
    A CD reader would have worked in the same way LOL

    #62 2 years ago
  63. G1GAHURTZ

    ^ You might struggle to fit a 20GB game on a CD.

    #63 2 years ago
  64. heroes159

    @ 57, Same thing works with XBOX ONE. You can log into your account in any friends XBOX ONE & you can play all your games. Also we can share the game on XBOX live to 10 Family members without giving your account. We cant do that on STEAM ryt.

    I agree about the part “steam having cheap game sales. But we’ll know more about how XBOX game sales works in the future.so we have to hold on to that.

    Anyway I dont know why people really bashing XBOX for 24 hours online thing. I mean, is it really that hard to log into your live account once a day. I live in a 3rd world country & i can get into internet without any problem.Millions of people Log into Facebook everyday for hours. I dont think its that hard to connect to internet with todays technology. U can easily use your Mobile to connect internet. All the people who bash XBOX on internet have INTERNET :D … IF u can Buy a XBOX or PS4, IM sure you can afford an Internet connection for sure. This is the future Guys. ITS ALL CLOUD from now on :) And I really got that feeling , This ” FUCK XBOX , IM BUYING PS4 Tide” will change when these 2 console launching end of this year.

    #64 2 years ago
  65. Aullah

    @64 nice try ms employee

    #65 2 years ago
  66. laughing-gravy

    @64 Yeah never seen you on here before either. Good PR line you’re sticking to there. Almost like the canned answers mentioned at the top of this article.

    #66 2 years ago
  67. Templar_Dante

    @64= MS Astroturfer.

    #67 2 years ago
  68. biggambit

    Its not about Internet connection it the 24 hour thing I hve both consoles but I also have a job and a life I only play my systems on weekends or weeks on end registering. Every 24 hrs is a complete waste or time and when I’m not using Internet I shut everything down to conserve energy so I don’t. Think MS thought all this threw. I can totally get behind them in the used game thing because a lot of people don’t get that when gamestop and others like them sell used games the game developers don’t get any of that money therefor game prices increase. I wish they let u play the game online before u by it so u wont end up with a lame game.

    #68 2 years ago
  69. laughing-gravy

    @67 Yup!

    #69 2 years ago
  70. karma

    My Steam has been in offline mode with all my installed games playable for about 6-7 months now. I generally activate my game the day I get it, patch it up and then go offline so I don’t get bothered.

    I also don’t buy AAA £50 titles digitally, only £5 games, because that’s cheap enough to take a risk on if its good or not. I would never blindly dl a £50 game, ever.

    I like ownership of my games, and the freedom to play and share them with whomever I want, especially when they’re expensive console games. Thats why Steam and GOG are secondary gaming platforms, and not my main one. I play cheap indie and sometimes get older games that are on sale for a few quid. With Gog I can put them on disk my self and keep them safe. Full price PC only games I still opt to buy from retail with the disk, and only if they don’t require steam.

    Microsoft are full of shit.

    Also can we start uncovering those paid M$ marketing agents and start banning them from the VG247 boards?

    They’re subversive as all hell but pretty easy to spot. I can’t stand sneaky corporate bullshitters, they’re the scum of the Earth.

    #70 2 years ago
  71. OmegaSlayer

    @63
    If the console must connect every 24 hours, then you obviously must have an internet connection, so it’s pointless to install from a Blu-Ray when you can download the game.
    A CD would have been more than enough for the activation.
    Actually mine was sarcasm because the Bone could have skipped the drive altogether.

    #71 2 years ago
  72. laughing-gravy

    @70 I know what you mean.

    #72 2 years ago
  73. reask

    So how does it work 71?
    If I go on hols for 2 weeks is that it?
    I would imagine when you boot it up it just reactivates your account automatically in the background.

    #73 2 years ago
  74. heroes159

    @65, 66 , 67 .. hehe come on guys. just because I just say something to defend XBOX doesn’t mean im from MS :D lol.. anyway I feel like everyone bashing too much XBOX. I mean come on whats so bad about XBOX huh.We all know, this is the future we are heading. I don’t know if u guys can remember how steam was it was released first. But look today. Everyone praise steam. look when Origin start 2 years ago. Today it has 40+ million members. its a really cool client. Its always trying new things/experiments/accepting challenges that make this world tick.Otherwise we’ll still be in the stone age. SO i don’t mind MS trying new thing with XBOX.

    We still don’t know how XBOX works properly. I agree its bad, if MS blocked the Used games. But remember ,PC games already doing this for a long time now. No one seem to complain about that RYT. But MS said they already working on used games. Its a great system from the specs. Got some beautiful exclusives. Its working on a cloud system. we are living in a Digital world guys. All im saying is be open minded. Think this through.

    Also DONT BUY the next gen consoles at launch. as some guy on Reddit said, you have very few next gen games(almost nothing) to play on the console launch. its gonna take atleast 3 months after launch to get some good next gen games. SO Just wait. We are people.we are not idiots. WE can think. otherwise we are just animals.

    #74 2 years ago
  75. xxJPRACERxx

    I’m not a fan of this DRM scheme and you people are right, you can’t really compare that to Steam (but there’s some advantage to MS model, like sharing with “family”). But I also agree with heroes159. Some of you are taking this hate on MS to almost stupid proportion and are trying to find every excuses conceivable just to hate on them.

    DRM is bad, but so far I find what MS has done perfectly acceptable.

    #75 2 years ago
  76. ps3fanboy

    @74 heroes159, get the fuck outta here you micro$haft employee. we can smell you bs all the way from cali.

    #76 2 years ago
  77. JB

    @74 what do you mean it`s the future, a lot of peeps here don`t think it`s the future and it`s the same shit-storm across the web, many analysts don`t think it`s the future either. Even Sony and Nintendo seems to have another take on the future as well.

    You seem unable to comprehend it`s not about the technology, but how the technology is used.

    “But look today. Everyone praise steam. look when Origin start 2 years ago. Today it has 40+ million members otherwise we`ll still be in the stone age”, so the PS4 and the Wiiu doesn`t have digital content, stops innovation and only supports analog technology?

    Not everyone praises Steam either, there are pending lawsuits against Valve in Germany and a preliminary EU court confirmed that there`s no difference between buying a digital copy, physical media, or a license.

    “We still don’t know how XBOX works properly. I agree its bad, if MS blocked the Used games. But remember, PC games already doing this for a long time now.”

    If you use Steam offline you don`t need to tell Daddy Valve about it every 24 hours. There`s no additional Gold sub and just look at the post @60.

    #77 2 years ago
  78. Lengendaryboss

    @PS3fanboy
    True colours… REVEALED :)

    #78 2 years ago
  79. heroes159

    @ ps3fanboy , How about you fuck off . I’m just telling my honest fucking opinion. Go & play some fucking games on your PS3. And do a fucking favor to the world. Stop your bullshit comments.

    #79 2 years ago
  80. OlderGamer

    Maybe it has been said already, Sorry if it has. But the 24 hour check in is just One issue. I don’t want Kinect 2.0 At all. And most of all I just don’t want to give MS(or others) the idea that I like where XBone is going with all of this. I don’t want to game in the MS vision of tomorrow.

    As for Xbone being like Steam….it isn’t even close. For many reasons already listed.

    Look all I see in the Xbone is positives for MS and Publishers. Where are the positives for us, the consumers? Where is that cool feature that wows me? If it is the TV stuff, sorry not impressed. I already have Direct TV. Prettier versions of the same old software? Timed exclusives on Multiplat games? Sorry, I can wait for Titanfall on PC or PS4. I mean what is in it for us?

    When someone can answer that question with more then just hot air, I will be interested in listening.

    #80 2 years ago
  81. For Blood

    @heroes159
    That is such a dumb statement to say if someone could afford a PS4 or Xbone, they could afford internet. Buying a system is a one time purchase, so you could save up the money to do it. Whereas internet is monthly and you have to have the money on a cerI haventain day every month. I haven’t had internet for about 8 years now because I refuse to pay $80 a month. I’d rather have food and electricity and here in America with the mandated health care it will mean even less money people have every month. I have had a 360 for years and liked it more than PS3, but after the details of the Xbone I felt crapped on just because I can’t afford internet.

    #81 2 years ago
  82. redwood

    Microsoft is NOT a company that is known for delivering what it promised.. THAT IS WHY an informed “thinking” individual/gamer is crapping their pants right now because they have the money.. they have the lead.. and they are out to change the industry. SO yes the “logical” way is to wait till release, and see what happens. But the realist knows they are simply gonna go and fuck it up :) like not covering ME and India at launch. or not having game lending available at launch.
    and yes the MS bashing is too much.. but the Apologists here on some of the threads are also pathetic. The game industry is fucked in more ways than you can imagine, so if mS are thinking that leeching more money out of the consumer is a good way to fix the industry and/or strengthening it , than (in my opinion) they are highly mistaken..
    the rising costs in game-dev and the lack of ambition in game-ideas is what is eating the industry.. not DRM, not rental,not PC games.
    So yeah think for yourself.. and think the last time MS actually tried to do something different (zune, vista, win 8 start button) and succeeded.
    Their is a reason why apple is so successful, they also control your experience, but they don’t do it like this, I can dl an app from my companies account on my ipad and than play it while I am signed in to itunes with my own account. that is how you do this right.

    #82 2 years ago
  83. Lengendaryboss

    @OlderGamer Views For The Win :)

    #83 2 years ago
  84. Stilvan

    @80 I totally respect your opinion but there are some people like myself who believe in what MS is trying to do. Used games are not good for the industry, any more than pirating is. The people who make the games don’t see a dime when used games are purchased. I hate discs for the archaic twentieth century tech they are. I don’t need a pile of plastic boxes, game manuals and limited edition tins cluttering up my house – I’ve got enough crap as it is. Digital means my ownership of a product doesn’t live or die based on the fate of a piece plastic. Digital means disc size is no longer a limitation for games. But you can’t have digital without some way to prove ownership, and a pre-game or midnight login is the best way to accomplish that. Finally being able to guarantee that there is internet connectivity on the console and a speech/geture interface means developers can confidently support these features in their product. Most of what Kinect did in the first generation was tepid admittedly, but it does have potential to enhance games, but only if devs support it.

    #84 2 years ago
  85. heroes159

    @ 77 All im saying is, This world is heading to a Total Digital age. Look how 10-12 years ago & think about how future will look like by 2025. There’s always a shit-storm on internet when something changes on this Gaming industry or anywhere.Some people will like it,some people don’t like it. Its how it is. Do u guys really think MS don’t know that. They know that well. These are Multi billion $ projects guys. Years of plans. Im sure MS got some cards to play with them to turn this tide. They are not idiots.

    i know about Steam facing some lawsuits in some regions. But there’s another thing we need to remember.Seam is one of the reason PC gaming is strong today. PC gaming industry will be very close to dead by now if there’s used game trading available.So I’d say its a good thing that there’s no used on PC.

    Gaming industry is in a bad shape. Most of the companies out there not getting profits like they used to be. Game developing cost are getting sky high. Publishers need to sell million copies to get profits. Piracy is too much with games. Maybe MS trying to fight the good fight. Maybe MS trying to suck the consumers. But Again all I’m saying, We still don’t know how these systems works properly. we still don’t know these trading systems works. There are up sides & down sides FOR NOW. Lets just hold on. You are not missing anything. You can buy your console When both consoles are released & when proper next gen games Available next year. Until then nothing gonna happen.

    #85 2 years ago
  86. OlderGamer

    Stilvan I understand what you are saying.

    However this is a consumer electronics industry. The focus should always be on giving the consumer something that fits their needs and wants. And MS is not a victim. Neither are publishers. Those two will get their cuts of the second hand games policy. I doubt very much the devs will get the same shake. And in a modern day environment, do the devs even need a publisher at all? Shouldn’t devs be able to self publish? But big pubs don’t want that. They also don’t want indies eating into their profits.

    This entire conversation is about control. The more control you can have the larger the profits you can make. IMO, anyways.

    #86 2 years ago
  87. For Blood

    Okay people, what happens in 20 years when the Xbone is no longer supported and the servers no longer exist? You can’t go back to play it, there will be no such thing as classic games then, because they will no longer exist. It sure is a great feeling to occasionally play my N64 when I want to or my original Game Boy. Stop relying on how you feel now and think more about how you will feel in the future.

    #87 2 years ago
  88. Sylrissa

    @87 This is actually the main point that kills the xbone for me, as I use consoles for mostly single player games, and often go back to play my old consoles.

    The rest of the problems I could get past, but the fear that the X1 will be a useless brick in the future is a breaking point for me.

    #88 2 years ago
  89. For Blood

    @88

    Thanks for not being a “here and nower” as I like to call them.

    #89 2 years ago
  90. Sylrissa

    @89 Haha, no problem, I haven’t heard that one before.

    I still have my atari 2600 and my PS1 sitting around here I go back to now and then. and my girlfriend has her N64.

    It’s fun to pull out the old games from time to time and have fun with them.

    #90 2 years ago
  91. NeutralBlade

    Simply put, we don’t need a dictatorship in the gaming market. And all digital doesn’t mean that all of our rights have to be taken away with it either; that’s just what big corp wants to do. And as it stands, we are not in an all-digital age; so all arguments that defends Azure, are irrelevant.

    @87 Xbone One support will be dropped well before then. Azure gives MS the power to flip a switch, (so the speak), and the entire Xbone ecosystem will go dark. Anyone who doesn’t believe they don’t have that capability and/or think they won’t do it, (after getting official information on a fraction of what Azure can do), are fooling themselves.

    When MS decides they are no longer interested, everything will stop, and no one will be able to preserve their entertainment or profit from their product after that. That’s entirely too much power for any company to have, off products paid for by consumers at full price.

    It’s not piracy that will kill this market, it’s corporate greed.

    #91 2 years ago
  92. ps3fanboy

    @85 heroes159, you can stop this stand up comedy show of yours right now. this much bias bs i haven’t read on vg247 in one post before, i guess there is a first for everything. but i am sure you’re the major ‘douche bag’ nelson… because you sound exactly like him. you don’t fool anyone!

    #92 2 years ago
  93. JB

    @ 85, just out of curiosity, this “ownership is irrelevant stance and I`m fine with giving up my consumer rights – no big deal attitude”. Is that just confined to the games industry or are you fine with that solution for all products, physical or digital?

    #93 2 years ago
  94. For Blood

    @91

    Dare I say it…..I think I will. People who support the Xbone do not support gaming. Let us call them anti-gamers.

    #94 2 years ago
  95. salarta

    @94: That’s a little harsh, because it implies that those people don’t like video games at all, but I guess it all comes down to how you define supporting gaming.

    If we define it solely by buying games instead of pirating them, and buying/playing games regularly, then we could say even those people are supporting gaming. But if we define it as caring about the future well-being of the industry and the medium, setting present day selfish interests aside to push for games made and treated the best they can be, then we can’t really say such people are supporting gaming. It would be like saying someone that still eats food from a restaurant swarming with toxic health violations is supporting the restaurant industry by merely spending money on it, completely ignoring just how important it is for both consumers and restaurants that we’re eating food that was made with a set of standards upheld. Sometimes, loving and supporting something means withdrawing superficial support so as to not encourage bad behavior.

    #95 2 years ago
  96. Lengendaryboss

    @PS3fanboy
    You talking about bias? Oh the sad irony of that entire post :)

    #96 2 years ago
  97. G1GAHURTZ

    @94:

    Persuasive psychology fail.

    #97 2 years ago
  98. For Blood

    @97

    How do you figure? Did you read my posts before it where I stated what the Xbone is going toif it is suported? I don’t want the notion of classic gaming to be a thing of the past. That is why we as the consumers must not support business practices that are in place to not benefit us. In the 90′s do you know what was supposedly killing games? It was video game rentals. Now the big Boogeyman of the game industry is used games. There is always an excuse for why it is not doing good. The game industry made it through the “bad” game rentals and it will make it through the “bad” used games, contrary to what they want to believe.

    #98 2 years ago
  99. salarta

    @98: The video game industry also made it through the video game crash of 1983. This is actually why I’ve come to hope we go through another video game crash. All these corporations and people are ruining the industry and IPs because they’re obsessed with what will make the most money, what fits modern day fantasies and trends even if it hacks at the roots of how a franchise began and was intended to be. If we have another video game crash, I’m certain most of the pretenders and fair-weather creators will abandon ship for more “profitable” or “popular” avenues, and the tried and true will stick around and make games that are actually good and treat their source material respectfully.

    #99 2 years ago
  100. For Blood

    @99

    I whole heartedly agree with you. It needs another one to find its course again.

    #100 2 years ago
  101. Phoenixblight

    There will not be a crash. Too big to fail. BTW if you think the the publishers “obsessed with making money” are going to go away after the crash, you are lying to yourself.

    #101 2 years ago
  102. For Blood

    @101

    Hahaha. Did you just say “too big to fail”? When companies get too big that is when they fail

    #102 2 years ago
  103. stretch215

    Lol. I guess I’m an “anti-gamer”. Not that I (or anyone else buying an xbx1) care about the opinion of some random internet protester. You people are wasting your time here. Nobody cares.

    #103 2 years ago
  104. stretch215

    This is a video game blog and you people are at each others throats like any of this shit really matters. Nobody will die if people buy an xbox. The world will not end. Go back to real life people, stop trying to persuade people who aren’t listening.

    #104 2 years ago
  105. JB

    @104 yeah consumer rights are such a non-issue ><

    #105 2 years ago
  106. Lengendaryboss

    This is still going on, christ almighty.

    #106 2 years ago
  107. zinc

    ^106, It is the song that never ends…

    #107 2 years ago
  108. DSB

    It won’t end until Microsoft sells their console division to Sony.

    Trololol.

    #108 2 years ago
  109. zinc

    @108, Yuck it up hair bear, MS are more likely to buy Valve!

    :b

    #109 2 years ago
  110. Phoenixblight

    @102

    Nintendo,EA, Square, Activision were all at the first crash what makes you think they would leave at another crash? Get real.

    #110 2 years ago
  111. For Blood

    @110

    What condition are those companies in? They are all shells of what they once were. Look at Capcom they are a joke now. I still like Square and Nintendo, but they are not as good as they used to be.

    #111 2 years ago
  112. minxamo

    This is all taken from something a guy said on 4chan’s ‘/b/’ board, which makes it about as unreliable as it could possibly be.
    Even if a microsoft engineer was stupid enough to answer questions on 4chan, he/she would post it on /g/ or /v/.

    Utter bullshit.

    #112 2 years ago
  113. Phoenixblight

    THey are doing fine with the recession and digital is on the rise. They aren’t going anywhere.

    #113 2 years ago
  114. Aullah

    The bigger the company to more profit they expect. Its easyer to crash them.

    #114 2 years ago
  115. For Blood

    Hate to say it, but you don’t own digital games. It has been said before you can’t own 1s and 0s.

    #115 2 years ago
  116. Phoenixblight

    @115

    Your point? THat has nothing to do with a new crash. People want to be able to download games directly to their systems instead of going to a store that may have the game.

    I am all for the digital movement.

    #116 2 years ago
  117. For Blood

    Really? With the Xbone what happens when the system is no longer suppported and the servers are down? What about WOW (I hate that game) when the servers are gone? What happens when anything requiring servers are gone?

    #117 2 years ago
  118. Phoenixblight

    By that time I won’t be interested in them. Not my problem as I am not a hoarder.

    #118 2 years ago
  119. DSB

    @113 Digital is gonna happen with or without Microsoft though. They’re still gonna have to compete.

    #119 2 years ago
  120. Phoenixblight

    @119

    Wrong post? I never said Digital wasn’t going to happen.

    #120 2 years ago
  121. DSB

    @120 The point was that setting up a digital shop isn’t gonna cut it on its own. You also have to deliver.

    In the same way that you don’t launch a music player, an OS or a tablet and simply expect it to sell because “Duh, Microsoft”, you really need to make it attractive to people.

    No points given simply for attendance.

    #121 2 years ago
  122. Phoenixblight

    @121

    This is absolutely true. Microsoft always does that I purchased a Zune and they never gave support for that not as much as apple anyways, same with with Zune HD and Windows phone. I am sure it will be the same with the surface as well.

    #122 2 years ago
  123. For Blood

    By your words i’d say that your parents have bought you everything your entire life.

    #123 2 years ago
  124. Phoenixblight

    Nope, Everything I have is what I have worked for from the age of 16, I am in my 30s. So STFU with your judgements,

    #124 2 years ago
  125. Lengendaryboss

    @124
    Kapow, owned :)

    #125 2 years ago
  126. For Blood

    Well you sure seem like a brainwashef sheep who just goes with the next big thing. I have not lost interest in games I used to play and if I did, I would sure still like them around just in case I may want to play them someday. Digital could never replicate the feelings one gets from something physical. How about the feeling of Christmas Day when you open a present and its the game you wanted? Digital is a disconnect from life, it makes it boring if you ask me.

    #126 2 years ago
  127. Keivz

    I have both a PS3 and 360 (with kinect but without live; got both late in the console generation) along with a healthy PC library. I understand what MS is going for here, and honestly I have no problem with it. I think their new model is closer to steam than anything else. I’ve had a hell of a time getting steam to run offline in the rare instance I’ve tried to do it (on my laptop while on the road). Though I can’t remember an instance where I’ve been without internet at home for >24 hrs in the last 10 years; &, should it happen in the future, not being able to play some videogames will likely be the least of my problems. Also, I never trade in my games, don’t lend out my games anymore (have done so a total of 3 times in my life, last time some 15 years ago as all my friends are college grads who don’t’ play games anymore) and buy all my games new.

    The price difference is a bit of an issue, but it does come with kinect (which I like) and TV control (meh) with what looks to be better exclusives (imo). The biggest issue I have is paying for Live which I have refused to do and will continue to refuse to do. Although now the PS4 will be charging for online multiplayer too, which makes me livid. Oh well, I like things simple so I think I stick with the PC for now.

    #127 2 years ago
  128. DSB

    Oh look, it’s the “Everybody who doesn’t agree with me are brainwashed sheep” walking internet stereotype.

    We sure missed you, guy.

    #128 2 years ago
  129. vgyliu

    Im a heavy Playstation fan but I also owned a xbox 360 and Wii. With all 3 of the system im still gonna stick with owning a PS first. Flaws I see with xobx one. Needs the kinect 2.0 to be connected in order to use the system and you watches for you and listens in. Thats a bit creepy. Second is that Xbox one is region locked and I like importing games from japan that they dont release here in the US. Used game policy saying its like steam, Steam has much more competition compared to console version. As for trading used games I would love that to be an option since you can let friends borrow games and in turn maybe you can borrow a game that they have you might be thinking of getting. The 24 hours required internet gonna be a problem if they have downed service for more then 2-3 days. Last thing is I feel like the red ring of death is put there on purpose because both of my xbox 360 died either exactly the day after the warrenty expired or couple days and i only use the xbox like 3-4 hours a week. Im still using the first batch of ps3 that came out.

    #129 2 years ago
  130. Phoenixblight

    @126

    Yes those that don’t agree with you are sheep. I could care less what you think and has been pointed out you are becoming a shrinking group. I have over 100 games through steam which I am fine with. I don’t have to go to the store to purchase games. I just click download and wait an hour or so and I get to play the game. Its my money and I do what the hell I want with it. Deal.

    #130 2 years ago
  131. For Blood

    I didn’t state anything about anyone agreeing with me. Nor did I even hint at it.

    #131 2 years ago
  132. For Blood

    Thank you for pointing out another flaw with digital, you just sit inside and buy and play games without going outside. Digital is just plain lazy.

    #132 2 years ago
  133. Phoenixblight

    @132

    I work 60+ hours a week and have 2 daughters that I take care of. WHen am I supposed to go to the store to purchase a game? Get a freaking clue. I can access steam via my phone or PSn and order the game right there from work and when I get home it will be ready to go and play. Accessibility. I have only a limited amount of time to play games and when I do I want to get in and play not go out of my way to purchase a game.

    #133 2 years ago
  134. heroes159

    You guys are thinking too much. thinking about whats gonna happen when servers went down after 10 years. This is a Beginning of a Generation & its not going to end anytime soon. Today lots of games you played on 90s,early 2000 , available on digital. IF u guys think its going to go away, Thats not gonna happen. there’s no way a company gonna disable ,total access to a game just because they shut down servers.There will be always another way. Look at steam. whats gonna happen if steam gets shut down. Whats gonna happen to 50+ million people games. Valve said , if that happens one day , there will be another way to get those games.

    Also Used games maybe very popular in US & UK. But some of the other countries in the world(including mine) , they are not even shipping retail game disks. Only thing we have is digital in this country.. SO don’t worry , You guys will do totally fine , when they start going full digital. Retail is dying.

    #134 2 years ago
  135. DSB

    @132 Kinda like reading online news instead of going down to the store and grabbing a magazine, like a true Marine. Hoorah.

    Seriously though, your argument sucks.

    While you may have very specific needs, for most people the advantages are going to outweigh the disadvantages, for the exact same reasons that online news are killing paper news, and the exact same reasons that mobile phones killed the landline.

    I could bitch about the fact that the NY Times online won’t let me cut out articles, but I think that would be equally unconvincing to people who simply prefer their news anywhere and at any time.

    #135 2 years ago
  136. For Blood

    How have people functioned for the last X amount of years without digital? They suffered through it. You think you are the only one who has lived like that? You find time to make time.

    #136 2 years ago
  137. MCTJim

    well..hate to say it people, but no matter how hard you wish, digital is coming whether you all like it or not. I’ve seen the trends and leave you all with this example…blockbuster, hollywood and all the mom and pop video rental shops…You now have redbox and the blockbuster blue thing, but, you can get everything online cheaper. Comcast, FIOS, Time Warner and others offer their on demand video and you can purchase most new titles for under 20 bucks in HD. Redbox is the last ditch effort for this market..its only a matter of time before ALL video and video games go digital.

    The bestbuys, walmarts and target offer discounts on these titles when they go “on sale” thats when they move their movies. 30 bucks for a new released Blu-ray is complete nonsense. Its costs 1/4 of that to get it to market and into stores. Everyone complains that its a consumer driven market..You are correct, it sure is. I refuse to buy $30 blu-ray movies….If I can get them for under $20 and have it at my finger tips..there is no need to rush out to the store.

    Another issue is shortages on newly released games. If you dont reserve a high profile title..you most likely wont be able to get it release day. Digital downloads make sure there are NO shortages. Download it all in the background.

    Do I like DRM?..H E double hockey sticks NO. It blows, do i think this article is legit?..meh..doesn’t really matter anyways as this will be the trend and everyone can complain till the cows come home..but its inevitable.

    #137 2 years ago
  138. For Blood

    That is because society is becoming more sedintary and a want now, have now way of life.

    #138 2 years ago
  139. DSB

    @136 “My Idea of Content Distribution – Because everyone should suffer”, by For Blood.

    I really don’t see why everyone else should suffer and inconvenience themselves, just so you can hold on to your objects?

    #139 2 years ago
  140. Phoenixblight

    “How have people functioned for the last X amount of years without digital? They suffered through it. You think you are the only one who has lived like that? You find time to make time.”

    Haha, really? we also to use to walk to get any where now we have these damn cars that allows us to get to places faster. Damn you progression and technology!

    #140 2 years ago
  141. For Blood

    HA if the Depression era spawned the “Greatest Generation” this has to be the “Laziest Generation”.

    #141 2 years ago
  142. DSB

    I think we’re making a pretty good run at being the whiniest too.

    #142 2 years ago
  143. Osric

    Steam on console format sounds great. I would be in… if Steam had all Sony’s exclusives.

    #143 2 years ago
  144. salarta

    @110: All or most of the companies you listed came out AFTER the first video game crash. Also of important note, the video game crash of 1983 was ONLY limited to the United States. Other countries carried on just fine. The main causes of the crash were oversaturation of consoles and oversaturation of poor quality games. We’re starting to see the makings of both, only instead of oversaturation of consoles, we’re on the path of oversaturation of digital distribution services, and the poor quality games are basically what companies think they can force consumers to buy by pushing DRM schemes such as the XBox One as presenting, as if the mere fact those games can be pirated or purchased used means they would buy the games at top dollar without those avenues.

    You know what would be REALLY funny? If Microsoft somehow magically manages to dominate the console market with this scheme, it is going to be absolutely hilarious to watch all these companies’ biggest excuse for poor sales go from “zomg it’s used games and pirating that’s killing us!” right on over to “consoles aren’t popular and are too fickle, we have to do all our business on browsers and mobile!” as their main mantra. Microsoft will have single-handedly killed the whole console market, including any future XBoxes.

    #144 2 years ago
  145. G1GAHURTZ

    We’re starting to see the makings of both, only instead of oversaturation of consoles, we’re on the path of oversaturation of digital distribution services

    LOL!

    That’s some creative thinking, right there…

    #145 2 years ago
  146. Phoenixblight

    @144

    EA: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_Arts

    ” Founded and incorporated on May 28, 1982″

    Activision: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Activision
    “was founded on October 1, 1979″

    Square: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Square_(company)
    ” founded in September 1983″

    Nintendo I will give you.

    Video Game crash: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_video_game_crash_of_1983
    “The North American video game crash was a massive recession of the video game industry that occurred from 1983 to 1985. Revenues that had peaked at around $3.2 billion in 1983,[1] fell to around $100 million by 1985″

    Facts are lovely things.

    “All or most of the companies you listed came out AFTER the first video game crash. Also of important note, the video game crash of 1983 was ONLY limited to the United States.”

    THere was only one video game crash. Keep fabricating things.

    #146 2 years ago
  147. ProjectNatalFan

    Today it seems clear why they would go to a model like this. They believe this will be the last console generation, or at the very least for a long long time. Attaching yourself to the digital media, like its done with iTunes, is actually a very welcoming feature to have. I think they might be banking a little hard, but x1 is going to be a console that you wont know how beneficial it is until it is your personal possession. Its definitely a more personal console if you ask me, and in time the perception will change, or could, and sales will start to roll in. I think Microsoft is definitely convinced that subsidizations with cable companies and ISP provicers is going to be the fail safe for the slow start. I really cant see such a company falling straight on its face, despite all the internet rages, memes, and declares of its demise, they are still a player in this game.

    #147 2 years ago
  148. salarta

    @146: When the company was founded is not the same thing as when they started putting out their work. Activision is the only one in the list that had been up and running for a few years before the crash took place. The others, they only put their stuff out either just as the crash had begun (EA) or after (Square). Also, again, the crash was restricted to the United States. Square was a Japanese company.

    This is different from a company existing pre-crash, like Activision, and surviving through it. Companies start up with funds prepared to continue operations for at least a couple years, which is how long it took for the crash to end. And remember, in spite of being a Japanese company, a market that was not affected by the video game crash, Square still ended up in such a financial dilemma that Final Fantasy was set to be their last game before the company shut down if it didn’t succeed.

    As for “first video game crash,” I wasn’t fabricating anything. I misspoke. People do things like that from time to time.

    #148 2 years ago
  149. Phoenixblight

    @149

    That seems to be your thing is misspeaking. You tend to do that a lot and that is why I don’t take you seriously. When I give you facts you just go with “No I don’t mean this but this” You go around the subject to save face. It doesn’t work. Go beat on your drum somewhere else. There is no signs of a crash. NPD is the only thing people tend to go by but the thing is NPD can’t get digital numbers so they have no way of knowing what is actually going on. Its a very rough guesstimation and only based on physical sales.

    “When the company was founded is not the same thing as when they started putting out their work.”
    EA released in the crash:
    Pinball Construction Set (1983) by Bill Budge[109]
    Archon (1983) and Archon II: Adept (1984) by Free Fall Associates
    M.U.L.E. (1983) by Dan Bunten and Ozark Softscape
    One on One: Dr. J vs. Larry Bird (1983) by Eric Hammond
    Music Construction Set (1984) by Will Harvey
    The Seven Cities of Gold (1984) by Dan Bunten and Ozark Softscape
    The Bard’s Tale (1985) by Interplay Productions
    Mail Order Monsters (1985) by Paul Reiche III, Evan Robinson and Nicky Robinson
    Racing Destruction Set (1985) by Rick Koenig

    Keep trying, salarata.

    #149 2 years ago
  150. For Blood

    @salarata

    I must again side with you as the quality of games has gone downhill on a slip’n'slide. I play tons of games nowadays, but still prefer the games from 1989 to 2006

    #150 2 years ago
  151. backup

    Steam=shit
    xbox1=steam
    so
    xbox1=shit

    PC gaming = steam = dead
    xbox1 = dead

    #151 2 years ago
  152. mithrandir

    Offline Steam: Play all games you have downloaded
    offline Xbox1: No access to any of your games.

    So, that comparison is completely wrong, en shows exactly what’s wrong with Microsoft’s way of thinking. You can’t talk right what is wrong.

    Edit: Plus, check Steam prices compared to XBox/PS4 digital prices, and you’ll see another reason why this comparison is completely bonkers. I never bought, and never will, pay E40+ for a digital game. Not ever!

    #152 2 years ago
  153. chrisall76

    PC Gaming is dead? Yea sure, 5,000,000+ gamers = dead.

    #153 2 years ago
  154. Jonabob87

    @151 Steam is shit? PC gaming is dead? Kindly develop a functioning cortex.

    Clown.

    As for the story I always thought this was glaringly obvious.

    #154 2 years ago
  155. Bam007

    @152 – incorrect. Offline Xbox One = 24 hours of offline play, before you must check-in online to continue gaming offline.

    #155 2 years ago
  156. Ge0force

    Steam = cheap games from 3rd party stores, free online gaming, offline play, great sales, indies can self-publish. Xbox One has none of these.

    #156 2 years ago
  157. sh4dow

    @151:

    I was with you up until “PC gaming = steam = dead”
    Because PC is the only platform where you can escape from domineering companies dictating your rights.
    Yes, it’s unfortunate that so many people use Steam but you can still either get some of the games on other stores or… other sources entirely, should something be Steam-exclusive. You don’t have such choices on consoles.

    #157 2 years ago
  158. Mrnobodylikesus

    Fuck off the lot of you backward muppets !!!! I spose you all still have nokia 3210s?? or play cassettes on your walkmans ?? no you fucking dont !!! we live in a digital age and MS want to try and improve that in the same way apple did with the istore .. you think in 20 yrs time anyone is going to give a shit about the xbox one or ps4 ?? imagine if we hadnt moved on in the last 20 yrs ?? so instead of moving forward we should just keep you bunch of muppets happy .. keep playing ure megadrives and leave ppl that want to advance the world alone .. in fact I think there are armish communities you could move too .. as if having an internet connection is an issue ive had one for years .. not really a massive fortune in cost either .. £15 a month .. OUCH !!! WALLET DENTED !! Oh wait we are connected to the internet now .. coz we are reading a blog on the internet … Backward Fucks !!!!

    #158 2 years ago
  159. salarta

    @149: Misspeaking “seems to be [my] thing?” Who’s exaggerating now?

    I already gave my answer to your list of EA games of which they just started putting any of them out DURING the crash in the post you’re replying to. I also blatantly admitted that Activision was the rare case of a company that existed pre-crash surviving through it. If you can’t acknowledge all that, then I guess that’s where the conversation ends.

    @150: Thanks For Blood. :)

    #159 2 years ago
  160. Gheritt White

    @158: Why do I get the feeling you’re a shill? If you’re looking to sway opinion then you came to the wrong website, buddy.

    #160 2 years ago
  161. Lengendaryboss

    @158
    Like someone wisely said before improve your grammar, i’m suffering to read what you’re saying.

    #161 2 years ago

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    A Evolve community event is taking place this weekend, and participants will receive a special skin for Goliath, Kraken, and Wraith. Dubbed the Evolve Hunt for Gold Weekend, it’s the first in a series of upcoming online community challenges and events taking place over the coming months. Those who log-in starting today at 9pm PST […]

  • This video teases contents of Resident Evil: Revelations 2 – Episode 3

    A teaser video and images for Resident Evil: Revelations 2 – Episode 3 have been posted by Capcom. The assets can be considered potential spoilers, so just be aware of that before having a look. The game’s Season Pass costs $20, and the disc version releases March 17 in North America and on March 20 […]

  • GTA Online Heists teaser video is extremely short

    With Heists coming to GTA Online next week, Rockstar has released one of the shortest teaser videos we’ve seen in ages. Hopefully you didn’t blink. Heists, along with Daily Objectives and Adversary Mode, arrive next week on March 10. The PC version of Heists will arrive on April 14 when the PC version of the […]

  • The Division rumors claim Dark Zones support up to 100 players – video

    With the recent leak of older, pre-alpha footage of the The Division, rumors over the game’s contents have been swirling, and today we have a video for you discussing said rumors. Once of the rumors pertain to the game is that it contains 50-100 Player Dark Zones, which are PvP areas. Supposedly, these areas also […]

  • Here’s a look at MGS5: The Phantom Pain emblem creation, limited edition bionic arm

    A look at how to create your own emblems in Metal Gear Solid 5: The Phantom Pain was demonstrated in the latest Kojima Station broadcast, along with a look at the bionic arm replica included in the limited edition. A Venom Snake emblem will come with the limited edition version of the game, parts of […]

  • Elite: Dangerous coming to PS4 once Xbox One exclusivity period ends

    Elite: Dangerous was announced for Xbox One at GDC 2015 yesterday, and those disappointed over the lack of a PlayStation 4 announcement will be pleased to know it’s in the cards. According to Frontier boss David Braben the space-sim will head to PS4 at some point, once the console exclusivity deal with Microsoft has expired. […]

  • Here’s two new The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt screenshots to salivate over

    Two new screenshots from The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt have been released, and they are gorgeous as always. The screenshots follow the two released over the weekend. You can look at the new images in full HD glory over on Only Single Player. CD Projekt Red is at PAX East this weekend showing off the latest […]

  • Microsoft looking into streaming PC games to Xbox One

    With Windows 10, Xbox One users will soon be able to stream their games to PC. Microsoft is also looking into streaming PC games to Xbox One, according to news out of GDC. Speaking with Polygon at GDC 2015, Xbox program director Mike Ybarra said the company is also looking into the ability to stream […]

  • Free! Vindictus Lann Revamp codes worth €25

    We have 400 Lann Revamp codes worth €25 to giveaway for free to VG247 readers. All you need to do is enter your details in the box below and you’ll be given a code to redeem in game. The codes are for warrior character Lann and offer a 7 day unlimited Inner Armour pass, battle […]

  • US eShop update: Mario vs. Donkey Kong: Tipping Stars, OlliOlli, more

    Nintendo has updated the North American end of the eShop with Mario vs. Donkey Kong: Tipping Stars, OlliOlli and a demo version of Azure Striker GUNVOL. Your full update is below. eShop Mario vs. Donkey Kong: Tipping Stars – Wii U, 3DS – Cross Buy OlliOlli – Wii U, 3DS – Cross-Buy Proun+ – Proun+ […]

  • Rock Band 4 confirmed for Xbox One and PS4: supports old instruments and 2,168 songs

    Harmonix has lifted the lid on the long-rumoured Rock Band 4, stating it will support 2,168 previously released tracks and last-gen instruments on PS4 and Xbox One. The game will be out this year. Harmonix has yet to reveal specific features for the game, but it has been built with a completely new engine. As […]

  • First run of Rodea the Sky Soldier copies on Wii U come with Wii version

    The first print run of Rodea the Sky Soldier on Wii U will come with the Wii version packed in, NIS America has confirmed. The publisher confirmed today in a press release that anyone who buys the first run of the retail version of Rodea the Sky Soldier on Wii U will find the Wii […]

  • Unreal Tournament 4 lets modders sell cosmetic items to players

    Unreal Tournament 4 is a game built with the help of the modding community. So it’s only natural that it will feature a marketplace where all cosmetic items can be sold. Epic Games has confirmed that it will allow modders from the community to sell the cosmetics items they’ve created on the game’s marketplace. The […]

  • D4: Dark Dreams Don’t Die is coming to PC – rumour

    SWERY 65 has shown off D4: Dark Dreams Don’t Die running on PC at GDC this week, teasing that a possible port may be on the way. D4: Dark Dreams Don’t Die is SWERY 65′s latest project. An episodic detective affair, D4 came out on Xbox One last September and utilised Kinect as its main […]

  • Valve’s Lighthouse, VR controllers and more explained

    Valve’s less-talked about prototype VR controllers and its Lighthouse technology have been shown in more detail. When HTC announced Vive, the VR headset it’s working on with Valve, it mentioned “base stations” and ergonomic controllers. Now we know what they meant by that. The controllers are still in prototype phase, and will look better when […]

  • Listen to two professional Counter-Strike players explain why Dust2 is so popular

    Hear what makes iconic Counter-Strike map Dust2 one of the most popular maps in shooter history from two former eSports players. Sal “Volcano” Garozzo and Shawn “FMPONE” Snelling are both retired professional Counter-Strike players who are currently working as designers. At GDC this year, the pair hosted a panel titled “Community Level Design for Competitive […]

  • Core Morpheus hardware locked in, no plans for wireless version

    Sony has finalised the core hardware for its VR headset Project Morpheus, and does not currently plan on releasing a wireless version. SCE Worldwide Studios president Shuhei Yoshida spoke to Gamespot at GDC and confirmed that the core hardware of Morpheus is “pretty much done” but that “lots of tweaks and improvements” are still being […]

  • Watch the full Phil Spencer keynote from GDC 2015

    The full GDC 2015 keynote of Xbox boss Phil Spencer is now available to watch. In case you missed last nights’s Phil Spencer keynote at GDC 2015, the whole thing has been made available to watch on YouTube. The address is titled “The Future of Gaming Across the Microsoft Ecosytem,” and it’s where Spencer announced […]

  • Elite: Dangerous won’t be “dumbed down” for Xbox One

    The Xbox One version of Elite: Dangerous will in fact be the same as the PC one. Elite: Dangerous developer Frontier came out on stage last night at GDC to announce the game making its console debut on Xbox One. Some have feared that the port would not provide the same experience as the PC […]

  • Virtual reality: by gum, it’s really happening

    Virtual reality has exited the realm of peripheral gimmick and turned into something that just might go mainstream. VR has an uphill battle ahead of it. The tech is going to be expensive, and there are a number of problems that need to be solved before it could be considered an inclusive technology (motion sickness, […]

  • Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor takes Game of the Year at GDC Awards 2015

    And the winner is: Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor. Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor beat out Alien: Isolation, Bayonetta 2, Destiny, and Hearthstone: Heroes of Warcraft to win Game of the Year at the Game Developer’s Choice Awards 2015. Elsewhere in the awards, Ustwo’s mobile hit Monument Valley was a stand-out favourite, with wins in the Innovation, […]

  • Alien: Isolation was prototyped in third-person – video

    Alien: Isolation is one of the most effectively scary triple-A games in years, but it didn’t start off a perfect creation of pure terror. Creative Assembly prototyped Alien: Isolation in third-person perspective before they nailed down the final approach. The developer revealed this during a GDC 2015 presentation, and it’s a good reminder that games […]

  • Madden 15 added to EA Vault

    Madden 15 is now included in EA’s all-you-can-eat subscriber service. Madden 15 is the ninth game to be added to the EA Vault, a stash of games available on demand for EA Access subscribers. It's still Madden Season for EA Access members – Madden NFL 15 is now in The Vault for all members. Go […]

  • Source Engine 2 doesn’t have hidden costs or royalties – but is Steam exclusive

    Three major engines went free at GDC 2015, and each of them is monetising in a different way. There’s been a heck of a lot of discussion about development tools and the costs associated with them during GDC 2015. First Epic announced that Unreal Engine 4 would be free, bar royalities on successful releases. Then […]

  • Final Fantasy creator hates sequels

    Final Fantasy, a byword in prolific franchises, was created by a man who hates sequel. Final Fantasy games are famous for being reinvented with each core release, and it was not until series creator Hironobu Sakaguchi began to withdraw from the franchise after Final Fantasy 9 that we started seeing regular sequels and spin-offs. Speaking […]

  • Guardian complaints led to the closure of Destiny’s Loot Cave

    Destiny players are to blame for the shuttering of the much loved Loot Cave. Early in Destiny‘s history, many players got hugely excited about the “Loot Cave”. Accessible shortly after starting the game for the first time, this high-volume spawn point allowed players to stand in one place, taking out waves and waves of low-level […]

  • Xbox and PC games boss Phil Harrison to leave Microsoft – rumour

    Microsoft Interactive Entertainment Business VP and EMEA head of games Phil Harrison is rumoured to have thrown in the towel. Microsoft has not issued a statement on Harrison’s alleged departure, despite repeated questioning by press at GDC 2015. Instead, word comes via multiple sources speaking to GamesIndustry at the show. According to the rumours, Harrison […]

  • Metal Gear Online commentated trailer explains stuffed dog – but not invisibility

    Metal Gear Online developer Kojima Productions has provided significantly more insight into how the multiplayer side of The Phantom Pain works. Metal Gear Online is the online multiplayer component of Metal Gear Solid 5: The Phantom Pain. Konami hasn’t shared a great deal about it yet, but we did see a very cool Metal Gear […]

  • Elite: Dangerous Xbox One trailer shows off space MMO

    If Elite: Dangerous looks this good on Xbox One we have nothing to complain about. Microsoft revealed Elite: Dangerous is coming to Xbox One this year during its GDC presentations today. We don’t know very much about the port, but I suppose we ought to have expected it; Frontier Developments has a very close relationship […]

  • Battletoads to appear in Shovel Knight Xbox One

    A Battletoads remake must be on the horizon. Right? Right?? The Battletoads will appear in the upcoming Xbox One version of Shovel Knight, Yacht Club Games revealed today. The Battletoads drop in for a fight! Shovel Knight is headed to Xbox One and meets up with @RareLtd brawling trio! pic.twitter.com/OCQIuWbH3W — Yacht Club Games (@YachtClubGames) […]

  • The Division pre-alpha footage leaks, Ubisoft says it’s well out of date

    The Division fans finally got a look at Ubisoft’s MMO this week, but the publisher has said the footage is not in any way representative. Pre-alpha footage of the The Division was leaked this week, but has since been thoroughly smacked down by takedown notices. All that remains are a few screenshots and a GIF: […]

  • Microsoft HoloLens designer killed in hit and run accident

    Very sad news out of Redmond this week, as Mike Ey was killed in a tragic accident. Ey, 30, was one of the key project designers on Microsoft’s HoloLens AR headset. He was killed on Saturday morning in a rear-end collision. The driver of the second vehicle fled the scene but was tracked down by […]

  • AMD throws support behind VR with new low-latency anti-nausea tech

    GPU manufacturer AMD has released a new SDK compatible with “a broad set of VR devices”. Called LiquidVR, the tech is designed to “bring better content, comfort, and compatibility to VR applications” including games, simulation, entertainment, education, social media, travel, medicine, real estate and ecommerce, apparently. AMD said maintaining comfort and realism in VR environments […]

  • Danganronpa 3 in the works, but a long way off yet

    A new Danganronpa is happening. Danganronpa 3 is in the very, very early production stages, writer Kodaka Kazutaka has confirmed. Nothing about the project is “set in stone”, Kazutaka told Polygon, so there are no details to share yet; the characters and story may change several times before being finalised. The writer said he’s weighing […]

  • Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare MLG Pro League 2015 schedule announced

    Major League Gaming has announced the full schedule for the 2015 Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare MLG Pro League. The eSpots firm revealed two more seasons of Pro League, a live Relegation tournament for Season Three, and a season ending World Championship with $250,000 up for grabs You can watch all the action on MLG.tv […]

  • Happy Birthday PlayStation 2, you are almost old enough to drive

    Amidst all the GDC 2015 hoopla today, we forgot to wish PlayStation 2 a Happy Birthday. The system turned 15 years old today, going by its March 4, 2000 launch date in Japan. It was released in the west that autumn, and had shipped 100 million units in less than six years post launch. PS2 […]

  • Here’s what the final version of Valve’s Steam Controller looks like

    A look at the updated Steam Controller has surfaced via a hands-on post from Polygon. Valve said what you see in the images below is the final version of the controller. The controller has gone through numerous revisions since it was first revealed, but it seems Valve has decided on two touch pads which work […]

  • The Sims, SimCity developer closed down

    The Sims 4 developer Maxis has been shuttered, EA has confirmed. The Sims, SimCity and the rest of the Sim franchise has traditionally been helmed by Maxis, which had its flagship studio in Emeryville, California. Now EA has confirmed with Kotaku that this studio is being closed. “Today we are consolidating Maxis IP development to […]

  • Gigantic MOBA coming to Windows 10 and Xbox One with cross-play

    Today during GDC 2015, Microsoft announced that the new IP from Motiga called Gigantic will be cross-play enabled. Slated for Windows 10 and Xbox One, the five-on-five third-person battle arena game allows the player to select from an array of heroes with distinctive powers and play styles. Players will then make their way through areas […]

  • Here’s a look at Unreal Tournament DirectX 12 gameplay

    Epic Games is creating Unreal Tournament using Unreal Engine 4 running on DirectX 12, which Microsoft says “sets a new bar for visual fidelity.” DirectX 12 is a single API developers can access across Windows devices, which can result in a 20% improvement in performance over DX11 running on the same machine. The Unreal Tournament […]

  • Wireless adapter for Xbox One controllers out later this year

    Microsoft announced at GDC 2015 today it will that all wireless Xbox gaming accessories will be designed for and supported on both Xbox One consoles and Windows 10 PCs moving forward. Later this year, a wireless adapter will be released, allowing current Xbox controllers and future devices to be used wirelessly on PCs. This will […]

  • Microsoft offers up more details on Spencer’s GDC 2015 talk

    Microsoft has provided more details on Cross-Buy functionality between Windows 10 and Xbox One as well as the Xbox Live SKU and other announcements made during Phil Spencer’s talk today. During the session, the head of Xbox shared “the next step” in the company’s plans for a unified platform across all Windows 10 devices which […]

  • Wasteland 2 is coming to PlayStation 4 this summer

    Wasteland 2 is coming to PlayStation 4 as a Game of the Year Edition. inXile Entertainment announced the news on the PS Blog, noting the edition contains enhancements and improvements. The game has been ported to Unity 5, which was announced over the weekend, providing upgraded visual effects, “improved character models, upgraded environments, and Unity […]