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Xbox One policies presently set in stone, but the brand is always adapting to trends

Thursday, 13th June 2013 15:58 GMT By Stephany Nunneley

Microsoft Studios’ corporate vice president Phil Spencer has said the firm’ 24-hour online authentication and game trading policies on Xbox One are for the moment “definitive” and fixed, but it will remain open-minded regarding future policies.

Speaking in an interview with CVG, Spencer said the firm wanted to make sure its policy isn’t confusing anyone, so it set things in “black and white terms” last week.

“We will be as attentive to that feedback on Xbox One as we were through 360,” he said. “So these systems evolve. We’re a software company. If you think about the amount of times we changed the operating system on 360 – it was a number of times.

“But we wanted to set our policy as it is for Xbox One in clear terms so that there wasn’t ambiguity in what our stance was. That was our intent.”

Spencer went on to say Microsoft was “always listening to its fans,” and even when they get angry and lash out at the firm, he doesn’t take it personally.

“I say this, and I’m not trying to be pithy about it: I’ll never get frustrated with fans of what we do, because they’re very passionate about the games they play and the systems they purchase,” he said.

“We’re obviously trying to build games and a platform that people will love and invest their time and money in.”

Xbox One is due in November.

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  1. CyberMarco

    DAMAGE CONTROL!!!

    #1 1 year ago
  2. Dunno

    “We’re obviously trying to build games and a platform that people will love and invest their time and money in.”

    Try harder bitch!

    #2 1 year ago
  3. viralshag

    @1, You’re getting as bad as Ps3fanboy. Which is a real shame.

    #3 1 year ago
  4. Malmer

    Well I for one think the sharing of your complete game library with a closed group of 10 people (where you and one more can play your game simultaneously) is quite awesome.

    #4 1 year ago
  5. CyberMarco

    @3 Excellent!

    @4 That can already be done with digital copies of games on the PS3. IIRC until 2011(?) you could share you’re account on 5 consoles, now on 2.

    #5 1 year ago
  6. Sylrissa

    Sounds to me like it’s set in stone for the X1, but they’ll think about changing it later on for the X1 slim or whatever they call it

    #6 1 year ago
  7. Moonwalker1982

    I just did some reading on that family sharing thing, if it truly works like that, a lot of the negativity about these weird DRM rules should go away. It sounds fantastic.

    #7 1 year ago
  8. Malmer

    @5 You can use it on 5 consoles if you log in with your account on that console. Not the same thing. Xbox One gives you sharing of your library with other people, wherever they are, no matter what console they manage to dig up.

    #8 1 year ago
  9. MCTJim

    @7 i agree about the sharing..it sounds cool. and to be honest..the DRM and online feature never really bothered me..but I guess it will bother a lot of people. I see the trends and no matter how much people yell and complain, everything is going digital..its evolving..do I like it..no of course not.

    #9 1 year ago
  10. CyberMarco

    @8

    So apart from the number of possible consoles/users what’s the difference?

    Also it would be too good to be true, because then 10 friends could gather up and buy the game once and share it with each other. It’s really promising though…

    #10 1 year ago
  11. Malmer

    @7 My view precisely. It’s is fantastic. And when I asked XboxSupport on twitter they confirmed this was the case. You and one more person can play from your complete library, wherever you are. And I mean you CAN sell your games used. You just can’t do it on ebay. So you loose some, but gain a lot too.

    #11 1 year ago
  12. Malmer

    @10 For one it is automatic. And you don’t need to log in to all these consoles with the same account. And the 10 ppl sharing can’t play at the same time. Only the orginial owner and one person more. So it is basically disk swapping between friends but via the cloud and you can still play the game you lent to a a friend and the friends can instantly share the disk between them. Basically like you bought two copies of a game and gave one to your close group of friends/family to share between them.

    #12 1 year ago
  13. Sylrissa

    I live in a very rural area with pretty shoddy internet, so I would rather have a console I can play offline, but if X1 ever removes this check in once every 24 hours thing, I’ll pick one up.

    I like to use my consoles to play single-player or co-op games, and what little multiplayer games I play, I use my PC for.

    #13 1 year ago
  14. CyberMarco

    @12 Yeah, but we still have to hear from Microsoft how we’ll have to verify our family members.

    #14 1 year ago
  15. JB

    @9 yeah exactly, people are afraid of the Xbox One and it`s advanced digital technology, which is why they`re choosing the PS4 which is made purely of wood, doesn`t have internet access and only works with analog devices….

    #15 1 year ago
  16. MARIODELRJ

    I already have an xbox 360 … for next gen? … The best console is PS4! … Stick the xbox one in her ass micro$oft and keep it online.

    #16 1 year ago
  17. Moonwalker1982

    Guys it does all say what we think it is. It sounds a bit too good to be true, of course, and it remains to be seen if anything is hidden and they are not saying anything about that yet.

    http://tinyurl.com/luqobgx

    #17 1 year ago
  18. Ge0force

    And I was thinking that things get better when they ‘evolve’, instead of getting more restricting. I must have been wrong…

    #18 1 year ago
  19. orakaa

    So… basically he says that they’re listening to what the fans say and they take it into consideration… then on the next sentence he recognizes that there’s an uproar as he “doesn’t take it personally”… but still he says that the system’s policies are set in stone???

    What a friggin’ moron! His attitude is insulting.

    #19 1 year ago
  20. Malmer

    Here is source on You+One more can play from your shared library:
    https://twitter.com/xboxsupport2/status/345199493903421440

    And here is source on that anyone can be a family member:
    http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/06/microsoft-defends-the-xbox-ones-licensing-used-game-policies/

    “For one, a family member doesn’t have to be a “blood relative,” he said, eliminating the extremely unlikely possibility that the Xbox One would include a built-in blood testing kit. For another, they don’t have to live in the primary owner’s house—I could name a friend that lives 3,000 miles away as one of my “family members” Mehdi said.”

    #20 1 year ago
  21. noamlol2

    “set in stone”

    OK Msoft you’re dead

    R.I.P xbox brand, it had a great run until micro$haft ate the apple (if you know what i mean)

    #21 1 year ago
  22. MCTJim

    well then that settles it, Gonna buy the X1 first and then around Christmas I will get the PS4. I now see that most of the fears (other than 24 hr check) are not as bad as they are being made out to be.

    #22 1 year ago
  23. Fin

    @20

    I think the Twitter is wrong on the simultaneous play:
    http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/license
    “You can always play your games, and any one of your family members can be playing from your shared library at a given time.”
    (emphasis mine)

    There is going to be a restriction on who you can add as a family account. It might be sub accounts only (ie age-restricted), they might have to all share the same billing information.
    You will not be able to buy one copy of a game and have nine of your friends play it simultaneously. I guarantee this will not happen.

    #23 1 year ago
  24. MCTJim

    @23 of course not, only one at a time..but the nice thing is as I read it, YOUR console need not be on for them to use your library. If this is indeed the case..cool :D

    #24 1 year ago
  25. Malmer

    @23 But that was what I asked. You + One other. And they confirmed it. Not you + 10 others at the same time. You + one. And they confirmed it twice. Different people. I’d say that settles it.

    Cloud stored licenses isn’t all bad. Here is the plus side. And it applies to digital downloads as well.

    #25 1 year ago
  26. Ireland Michael

    @20 There is a restriction. Only one “family” member can play the games at any given time. You could add 9 different people, but good luck trying to organise who can play what when. There’s an opportunity for family drama if ever I saw it. Hahahaha.

    The PS3 allows my digital content to be downloaded onto two separate machines, with no online / offline restrictions applied, which is essentially the same thing.

    It used to be up to five machines, but they sadly reduced that a while back. =(

    #26 1 year ago
  27. Moonwalker1982

    No way that will happen, and i don’t think i will be able to play my bro’s Forza 5 if he wants to play it as well. But even though, it is a really cool feature. I mean after a few years my collection of games will be like 50+ and he can just pick one from it and start playing it. If i have finished it too, he can just play it whenever he wants. This way plenty of peolpe won’t even buy the game. And that’s why it has me kinda doubting how this is going to work.

    #27 1 year ago
  28. MCTJim

    I just think its a cool alternative to lending games to my friends is all. I kinda of think of it the same way as lending it to my friend. I wouldn’t have the game to begin with if I lent him a physical copy anyway.

    #28 1 year ago
  29. Malmer

    @27 MS support says you should be able to play your brother’s Forza 5 at the same time.

    #29 1 year ago
  30. Moonwalker1982

    Isn’t that a fake Twitter? It says support2. Why support2?

    #30 1 year ago
  31. heroes159

    I think MS should show us what or How we can Trade games in console, How its works , so people can see what the hell is MS talking about.

    #31 1 year ago
  32. Fin

    @25

    Hmm, there might be a difference between the user who has the disc and the shared library – like the user with the disc can always play, and one other player could also play.

    Yeah that makes sense actually.

    #32 1 year ago
  33. Malmer

    @30 They have five official support accounts that will answer questions sent to the original @XboxSupport.

    #33 1 year ago
  34. Mad-elph

    The gripe I have is beyond the fact that I simply don’t want it, nor that I can’t use it if my internet fails. But rather, the average gamer is young, and young people tend to move a lot, say annually if you are in college etc. Now I can only speak from experience but every time I move it takes 3 weeks to a month to have the internet set up at the new place. This is just the way of the world in Canada I guess. Canada the most internet connected country in the world, (not the faster, just the most connected, based on a fact I read three years ago).

    So say I move… I have a shiny new game machine, I have no internet so I can’t surf to kill time, I can’t watch porn, etc. I accept that I can’t play online, but the fact that I CANT PLAY OFFLINE AT ALL, is the real deal breaker. No I have grown up a bit and will be a bit more stable in life, not moving all the time, but I am still sensitive to the issue for others.

    #34 1 year ago
  35. Malmer

    @34 Just share the connection on your phone. It’s just a few KB of auth info anyways.

    #35 1 year ago
  36. Fin

    @35

    If your phone and plan allow tethering.

    #36 1 year ago
  37. Ireland Michael

    @35 You shouldn’t *have* to.

    There are at least 2 to 3 months in my life where I am somewhere that leaves me without any Internet whatsoever, both landline and mobile. I know that might be difficult to comprehend, but its true.

    What then? I’m simply not “allowed” to play my game?

    Fuck that.

    #37 1 year ago
  38. Moonwalker1982

    @33

    Wtf. But on their official Xbox site it says only one person can play it at a time. COnfused now, lol.

    #38 1 year ago
  39. MCTJim

    @38 yes its still confusing..but if you let your buddy play, is that not like lending it to him as if you had given him the physical disc?

    #39 1 year ago
  40. jkcm725

    they just have to remember that most citys and people dont have the great internet like most. i still running dail up at 56kbps. so for digital age my town running behind. been promissed broadband and dsl for 2 years now.

    #40 1 year ago
  41. Malmer

    @38 Only one person can play it at a time in addition to you.

    #41 1 year ago
  42. Moonwalker1982

    Yeah you are right man. I was wrong about the policies site from Xbox. It doesn’t say that at all, so my bad. Sounds like a goddamn awesome future. I’m just shocked why MS hasn”t marketed this more. It probably would have avoided the whole negativity on DRM.

    #42 1 year ago
  43. Khan979

    @35 I shouldn’t have to check in with big brother and authenticate crap for my legally purchased games or console to work. If MS doesn’t want to trust me and let me play my games that I purchased when ever and where ever I want without authenticating, then I won’t trust them and I won’t give them anymore of my money.

    Again if people tell MS this is an ok process by purchasing their crap, then what is next? When you rent a movie, the Kinect sensor verifies the number of people in the room watching it does not exceed the number of people that you’re allowed when renting? Think about it….

    #43 1 year ago
  44. ps3fanboy

    CyberMarco, go go you tell them xbots :D

    #44 1 year ago
  45. Malmer

    More support to the simultaneous game sharing policy: https://twitter.com/xboxsupport2/status/345222136937472000

    The question:
    “sorry but that doesn’t cover it, I just dont believe that up to ten ppl can play on the same license together on seperate sys.”

    The answer:
    “As specified there, up to 10 family members can share your library. One other family member can play at the same time as you.”

    Doesn’t get much clearer than that. You + One. And as per the interview with Yusuf a “family member” can also be a friend. I am very much surprised that this hasn’t been reported by any sites. Did everyone just grab their pitchforks without actually reading the actual policy? Seems like it…

    #45 1 year ago
  46. MCTJim

    @45 seems that way at times. That in itself was the deal breaker for me. The sharing feature…way cool for me.

    #46 1 year ago
  47. Djoenz

    @45
    I agree tbh. Them tweets clarify way more things than their actual site.
    Kudos so you can log in with your account on at least more than one console without being logged out. Thats pretty cool.

    #47 1 year ago
  48. WENDiGO

    Let me ask you guys this. If they change the console and fix all this crap, would you trust them again? Would you go back with the company that acts like they don’t really care (at all) about the consumers and only looks at things from a business stand pont. They literally said f*** you a few times, starting with #DealWithIt. All businesses look at the money but this company seems to revolve around that.

    #48 1 year ago