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WildStar studio hopes to “fill the void” for people wanting a deep, hardcore MMO

Friday, 7 June 2013 19:44 GMT By Stephany Nunneley

Carbine Studios’ game design producer Stephan Frost said the team behind the WildStar MMO are hoping to woo some of the 1.3 subscribers World of Warcraft lost between February and April this year.

Speaking with MCV, Frost said the team is making something different, and is crafting an unique structure in order for it to succeed where others have failed or have been forced to go free-to-play.

“We’re making something that’s different,” he said. “We’re coming out at a time when WoW is losing subscribers and we can fill the void for people who want an MMO that’s deep, hardcore but also accessible to people.

“We’ve found through betas and trade shows that MMO players understand our game. They can see the improvements we’ve made and notice that this game is something pretty cool.”

The gameplay in WildStar will depend on which class the player chooses, and is out later this year from NCsoft.

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15 Comments

  1. fearmonkey

    There is something naughty about that title……lol..

    #1 2 years ago
  2. DSB

    I think the time is ripe for another MMO that takes raiding seriously.

    Most devs seem to be real busy dumbing the gameplay down to a point where staring at the scenery or killing a boss with 100 random strangers doing their own thing is meant to be satisfying.

    WoW has lost a lot more than 1.3 million subs, and I’m pretty sure I’m not the only one in that category who’s been hoping for another challenging, team-based MMO to come along. Sign me up.

    #2 2 years ago
  3. OlderGamer

    I am about to jump back into Rift now that it has turned f2p. I know it isn’t really what your looking for DSB. But it will pass the time.

    #3 2 years ago
  4. fearmonkey

    ^^^I agree OG, Rift is a good game, I might try it again after it goes free to play. I am probably not going to really get involved in a MMO till TESO comes out. Even if its not great, i want to see the locations.

    #4 2 years ago
  5. DSB

    @3 “Dumbing down” was too harsh, but when I play an MMO that expects me to either grind mobs, explore the gameworld or participate in clusterfucks surrounding world bosses, I just lose a bit of my soul.

    It feels like Farmville. You’re playing, but there’s really no reward beyond watching numbers go up.

    I think too many MMOs have focused on ramping up that low intensity grind, while the raiding scene has pretty much been left with WoW.

    #5 2 years ago
  6. GrimRita

    heard all this shit before. Who remembers Borehammer? All that bull shit about not having ‘lets go fetch some bear paws’ quests, only to find that it was one of the staples of the game.

    People will more or less 95% of the time try out a new MMO to see if it does offer something new. When they find it out it doesnt, they jump ship at record pace (SWTOR losing 1.7 million subs inside 3 months!).

    If any developer had the bollocks to create a Star Wars Galaxies sandbox type MMO, I believe they would have a pure hit on their hands. Players are sick of the themepark dull as shit MMOs.

    SWG had the right blend. People who wanted to fight – could, those who wanted to craft – could and those who wanted to do a bit of both – could.

    Pricing of this will probably see if it does become a success and of course, how it plays out.

    Side note – Rift is a damn fine MMO. Great service, excellent community tools(youtube upload directly from the game anyone?!!) but charging a premium price really is hurting the game. £4.99 a month, and I am sure they could retain many players.

    #6 2 years ago
  7. hitnrun

    @6 Yep. All these Respected Interesting Successful Game Developers hold forth about what their new MMO is doing different and the starry eyed game journos pass it right along uncritically, and then it turns out that they’re full of shit, sometimes by 180 degrees.

    At this point, Jeff Gerstmann could interview Shigeru Miyamoto about the focus of a new Nintendo MMO and the savvy game player could be forgiven for saying “fuck you, you’re both lying.”

    Rift is hardly better by a lot of standards, but there’s no question it’s the best option out there. I wish they would ditch the incessant carnival event spamquest bullshit, though. That got old in 2006.

    #7 2 years ago
  8. GrimRita

    @7 I have just had a look at their website and thus far – rinse/repeat MMO generic classes…..

    #8 2 years ago
  9. backup

    PC is for facebook games word hardcore games belongs to Playstation

    #9 2 years ago
  10. GrimRita

    @9/10
    How can console fanboys gloat about a piece of hardware that is already out of date when compared to a PC? There is no argument.

    #10 2 years ago
  11. DarkElfa

    “WildStar MMO are hoping to woo some of the 1.3 subscribers World of Warcraft lost between February and April this year.”

    They lost a whole 1.3 people?

    #11 2 years ago
  12. Sylrissa

    @GrimRita
    “Side note – Rift is a damn fine MMO. Great service, excellent community tools(youtube upload directly from the game anyone?!!) but charging a premium price really is hurting the game. £4.99 a month, and I am sure they could retain many players.”

    Maybe you haven’t checked into Rift in a while, but it recently gave a full f2p option for people to play all of the game.

    #12 2 years ago
  13. TheWulf

    @11

    That’s how I feel about a lot of MMOs. Guild Wars 2 came the closest to making me love an MMO, but it was actually the aesthetics that drove me away from that rather than the gameplay (I’ll come back to this).

    The problem: Fantasy and fantasy-inspired MMORPGs tend to be very copy-paste in how they handle skills and setting. Oh look, it’s a rogue with stealth and a backstab-stun move, how quaint. And look at yon ‘cities’ whose designers apparently forgot that we’ve been able to build structures taller than two-storeys high for a very, very long time, now.

    The classes are the same. The setting is the same. The premise is the same. The characters are the same.

    Now, I loved Guild Wars 2, but most of that was for the gameplay. The issue I had with it was that they didn’t push away from the fantasy standard enough. See, the Black Citadel existed in a void — once you stepped out of it, it ceased to exist. Even Torchlight II had traintracks and steampunk technology visible outside of the towns. But GW2 didn’t.

    Why? This is a very important question. WHY didn’t GW2 have these things?

    Because the MMORPG player is a shameless fantasy fetishist. They’ll put up with a bit of steampunk, but it has to be pocketed away in little ghettos where the majority don’t have to see it. WoW did exactly this. And whilst GW2 does it less, it still does it. That’s depressing.

    The engineer of GW2 is a fine example. The gameplay is fun, but the engineer itself doesn’t feel very high-tech or over the top. It feels muted compared to other classes. And if you’re making a flamethrower feel muted, then you’re doing something wrong. But I know exactly why they’re doing it. Because they’re afraid of upsetting the fetishists.

    The deceit of Wildstar is that it claims to be this BIG, SCI-FI MMO but when you look at the classes, it’s the same old fantasy bullshit. In fact, it’s even worse than GW2. WHERE is the technology? I don’t exactly see a lot of it in the game itself, it’s mostly based around cutscenes and such. I see a lot of swords, and I see a lot of magic, and I see a lot of idyllic landscapes.

    Wildstar reminds me of Monster Island in Champions Online, which is just one of the Champion Online zones.

    It’s Champions Online I keep coming back to. I don’t enjoy the gameplay of Champions Online quite as much as I do that of GW2, but I love< the setting. I adore it. It really, for once, keeps the promise of not falling back on purist fantasy bullshit.

    Instead of cure three corrupted trees or collect three wolf dicks as a mission, I have travel to an alternate dimension and help a ragtag band of rebels overthrow a dictator who uses giant automatons of doom to keep the peace. I know which I prefer. And that’s exactly why I keep going back to Champions Online, because the WORLD is interesting, the MISSIONS are interesting, the PREMISE is interesting, the LORE is interesting.

    And it leaves those fantasy purist MMOs in the dust in that regard.

    To be honest, I wish more MMORPGs could be like Champions Online. I’m so very tired of harvesting bird feathers and yeti noses, in CO I’m stopping a prison riot or breaking into the lab of a mad genius.

    I can only take away from it really that most people are really boring. And that most people are like stamp collectors, except instead of stamps they collect yeti noses and wolf dicks. So that’s why the MMO is stuck in the quagmire that it is, because the majority seems to like it that way.

    But I’ll always have CO, at least. You guys can have your bland knights, yeti noses, centaurs, and wolf dicks. I’ll have my steampunk pirate swordsman werebear. :P

    #13 2 years ago
  14. Tarawa

    I like how alot of ppl suddenly do not have the time or money to play/pay for an MMO these days. Did everyone become more busy? or get paid less at their jobs? as opposed to 7-8 years ago?

    #14 2 years ago
  15. Vice

    There’s no place for hardcore mmos in this world. They’ll go full casual in few months as well.

    #15 2 years ago

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  • Remember that gorgeous Luminous Engine tech demo? It now utilizes DirectX 12

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  • Stealth Inc 2: A Game of Clones sneaks onto GOG and Steam services

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  • Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare DLC Ascendance has arrived on PC, PlayStation consoles

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  • Latest Xbox 360 system update is live, now supports 2TB hard drives

    Xbox 360 now supports 2TB hard drives via the latest system update for the console. Support for the drives was announced earlier this month and has been available for preview members. “In addition we will also no longer reserve space in advance on your hard drive,” said the firm. “If you are using 16GB of […]

  • Kickstarter for Banjo-Kazooie spiritual successor Yooka-Laylee launches tomorrow

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  • Console version of Mistwalker’s Terra Battle is in development

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  • Prison break game The Escapists is heading to PlayStation 4 from May 29

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  • Dead Island 2 delayed into 2016 to ensure series is “taken to the next level”

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  • Project Cars: here’s a list of all available cars at launch

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  • Competitive matchmaking support is coming to Team Fortress 2

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  • GTA 5 PC patch fixes garage, Job crashes – full notes here

    Rockstar has pushed out a 353 MB patch for GTA 5 on PC The patch fixes a number of annoying bugs related to vehicles and garages, some deathmatch issues and purchase errors. It should also fix various freezing and crashing bugs, as well as a little issue with Steam. Time will tell if the patch […]

  • Fire Emblem If will come in White Kingdom and Black Kingdom versions with amiibo support

    We’ve finally got some juicy details on the next Fire Emblem game, but the most interesting aspect is that there will be two versions of the game. According to Siliconera, who translated an interview between Intelligent Systems and 4Gamer, there will a White Kingdom and a Black Kingdom version that offer different aspects of the […]

  • Deception 4: The Nightmare Princess heads west with “Golden Toilet” pre-order bonus

    Deception 4: The Nightmare Princess will debut on western PlayStation 4 systems this summer, Koei Tecmo has announced. It is also coming to PS3 and Vita. The game was produced by Keisuke Kikuchi of Fatal Frame fame and takes up where Deception 4: Blood Ties left off allowing players to relive Laegrinna’s pursuit to free […]

  • Nintendo US eShop update: Puzzle & Dragons Super Mario demo, Paper Mario, more

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  • Deus Ex: Mankind Divided PC port handed off to Nixxes

    The PC port of the new Deus Ex has been handed over to Netherlands based studio, Nixxes software. After the initial reveal trailer at the beginning of April, we’ve only had a few morsels in the way of additional news. The most intriguing tidbit to date has got to be the fact that you’ll be […]

  • First-ever PC Gaming Show to take place at E3 2015 in June

    PC gaming will finally have its very own E3 press conference this year, thanks to PC Gamer and AMD. The PC Gaming Show will take place on June 16 at the Belasco Theater in Los Angeles and it will be livestreamed on Twitch. PC Gamer said speakers at the presentation will include representatives from Blizzard, […]

  • Majora’s Mask light available now on Club Nintendo for 6000 stars

    Club Nintendo shuts up shop on September 30 and members are being encouraged to spend accumulated stars before then. And what better to spend them on, than this adorable Majora’s Mask light? If you’re a member based in Europe you can nab it for 6000 stars. If you’re in Australia or New Zealand, it’ll only […]

  • Unity support announced for HoloLens, will work with Windows universal apps

    Microsoft is partnering with game engine developers Unity in order to make HoloLens compatible with apps and games which use the cross-platform engine. The partnership was announced yesterday during its Build Developer Conference. Universal apps for Windows 10 systems will also be available on Xbox One later this year, suggesting possible HoloLens functionality with the […]

  • Splatoon Nintendo Direct airs Thursday, May 7

    A Nintendo Direct focused on Splatoon, the Wii U multiplayer title, on May 7. It will kick off at 7am PDT/10am EDT/3pm UK and it can be watched via the Nintendo Direct website. You can also have a look at the game through Nintendo’s Twitch channel. The last game-specific presentation took place last week and […]

  • GTA 5 PC: clean up the streets as a member of the San Andreas PD with this new mod

    Remember the awesome mods for GTA 4 and San Andreas that let you run amok online as a member of the po-po? Well, dust off your taser and load up your gun, because it’s coming to GTA 5. The new mod for GTA 5 is currently in alpha and can be downloaded at palmbeachgames.com. You […]

  • Indie shoot ‘em up Project Root comes to Xbox One, PS4 and PSVita

    Project Root is a self-proclaimed rejig of the shoot ‘em up genre that was released on PC last year, and it’s finally coming to consoles. Combining free-roaming elements with the usual business of shooting things, Project Root was released this week for Xbox One, PS4 and the PSVita.

  • You can now bet on eSports online, starting with League of Legends

    If you’re getting bored with sticking a pony on the races, you can expand your gambling horizons at Unikrn where you can watch esports streams and get a little action on the side. The new platform was set up by Rahul Sood – previously the general manager of Microsoft Ventures. At the moment, customers are […]

  • Has Watch Dogs 2 been leaked?

    Ubisoft employee, Julien Risse, may have inadvertently confirmed Watch Dogs 2, thanks to his online CV over at LinkedIn. Videogamer.com spotted the slip up, in which Risse lists Watch Dogs, the DLC Bad Blood, and Watch Dogs 2 on his profile. Creative Director Jonathan Morin has already talked about his ideas for improvements for the […]

  • GTA 5′s Trevor makes his Jackass debut, complete with leopard-print knickers

    YouTuber Abstract Mode has shared his vision of what Trevor Philips’ life might have been like, had he not been completely batshit crazy. Watch Trevor get mauled, run over, and hit by a train, before taking a majestic swan-dive into someone else’s pool at the climax. Thanks, Kotaku.

  • Call of Duty: Black Ops 3 season pass will cost you £35

    Call of Duty: Black Ops 3 isn’t released until November 6, but you can already hand over your cash for the Season Pass. The Season Pass is available for pre-purchase on Steam for £34.99, and will cover four DLC packs – although the details we have on the content are limited to ‘exciting’ at this […]

  • GTA Online’s cheating assholes are no match for this player’s vengeance

    Think you’re smart for using invisibility and infinite ammo glitches? You need to be taught a lesson, sucker. You can have all the hacks you want but if your GTA Online game is weak, you’ll still get your ass handed to you. As this fool discovered when attempting to hassle another player. There’s a fair […]

  • PS4 sales help Sony’s games division swing to profit

    Sony’s PlayStation business has made an operating profit of 48.1 billion yen ($404m / £261.5m) in the past 12 months. That’s thanks to stellar sales of the PlayStation 4 and PS Plus, even as sales of the PS3 have stalled and the company wrote off costs for the PSTV and PS Vita. The profit puts […]

  • New patch for Dirt Rally gives co-driver’s attitude a tune-up

    Dirt Rally gets a new patch three days after release on Steam. On Monday, we reported that the newest Dirt game has popped up on Steam’s Early Access and is available to pick up for £24.99, as well as giving you an eyeful of tasty screenshots. The patch – released yesterday – fixes some issues […]

  • New The Witcher 3 screenshots show combat, exploration and general carousing

    New screenshots released on the official facebook page for The Witcher 3 show Geralt annihilating a winged beast, out and about in the world exploring, and living the life of Reily amidst a bustling feast. We were already treated to some glorious screenshots a few days ago, but these new ones are in-game and give […]

  • Destiny: 14 things you might have missed during House of Wolves intel drops

    Destiny: House of Wolves does a great deal more than just slap some new content on the existing game structure. House of Wolves changes Destiny in a lot of interesting and very welcome ways. Bungie showed off many of these changes in its livestream, and let both me and Arekkz come and have a look […]

  • Scratch that cyberpunk itch with Technobabylon on May 21 – new trailer

    Technobabylon more like Wrecked-yo-babbling with my smooth flow about how good Wadjet Eye games are. I don’t know y’all, it’s clock off time and everything feels like a reach. Wadjet Eye makes pretty good adventure games – award winning, in fact. The latest project to spring forth from the benevolent, sheltering hand of the label […]