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Nintendo should release its IP on all platforms – Livingstone

Wednesday, 5th June 2013 20:33 GMT By Stephany Nunneley

Ian Livingstone is of the opinion Nintendo should release its IP on all platforms, not just its own.

According to Eidos life president, speaking at the Bristol Games Hub, the firm should have its “IP on every platform.”

“Otherwise a whole generation of young people will miss out on their games,” he said according to Pocket Gamer.

Livingstone believes doing so would reinforce Nintendo’s IP, something which should take precedence over its hardware platforms.

Thanks, Develop.

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  1. dreamcastnews

    The same Eidos that was in a financial sinkhole until Square bought them? In fact, it wouldn’t surprise me if Square-Enix’s current financial situation isn’t down to some Eidos tat. (Unlikely but still, probably isn’t helping)

    #1 1 year ago
  2. Clupula

    This is becoming an increasingly popular opinion and I agree with it. While the Wii U may be a dismal failure, I think they could probably sell several million copies each of the Mario, Zelda, and Metroid franchises on the PS4/Xbone to people who might want to play them, but aren’t about to buy a console that looks dead in the water already.

    I know I would certainly pick up a Zelda Collection if it existed. Nintendo really should become a smarter version of Sega, at this point. Nintendo would do very well as a third party publisher. Probably better than they do as a first party hardware company.

    #2 1 year ago
  3. Lengendaryboss

    Oh good grief, Nintendo can’t catch a break: what with a dying console, Family/Kid centric focus and poor third party support.

    #3 1 year ago
  4. KineticCalvaria

    @2, Agreed, I’d probably pick some of them up on X1/PS4/PC, but certainly not buying a console just to play them. Not the biggest Nintendo fan anyway but they do make some fun games.

    #4 1 year ago
  5. dreamcastnews

    I’m personally all for choice on the market. Microsoft and Sony machines are so close together I don’t know which one ill choose but Nintendo’s is different enough (and cheap enough) to take a punt on, none of Sega’s games retain that special ‘Sega feeling’ post hardware, it was Sega’s machines that really shaped the games made by them, they were creative and off the wall – something they lost. Nintendo haven’t lost that charm and with a few new IP’s shouldn’t have to publish for other machines.

    #5 1 year ago
  6. monkeygourmet

    I still think they are needed to bring the eccentricity to the hobby.

    I feel that would be sorely lost if they were making games for MS and Sony. The ideas would be compromised and pure vision corrupted with DLC and season passes.

    It’s almost going that way now with Mario DLC, I think it would be a lot worse if they were multiplatform. I like having the 3 companies in the market, MS and Sony are so similar too me, it’s good to have someone doing something different.

    Handheld only would be an acceptable compromise I think.

    @5

    Lol JINX! Beat me too it! ;)

    #6 1 year ago
  7. CyberMarco

    If Nintendo went the Publisher-only way, they could have released the Wii-U tablet controller as an add-on, something like Kinect/Move to deliver different experiences compared to the standard controller to a wider audience.

    #7 1 year ago
  8. dreamcastnews

    It’s ironic really isn’t it? Nintendo were the last bastions who didn’t sell you an incomplete product but now they have to try and flog us DLC and system updates because they can’t get the software out there quick enough. I hope to god they are buying Sega at some point, overnight franchise bolster there.

    I enjoy Nintendo’s different approach to gaming, I still play retro games so graphics aren’t exactly an issue and the 360 and PS3 aren’t exactly graphical mingers – neither is Wii U.

    #8 1 year ago
  9. YoungZer0

    @8: If Nintendo doesn’t hurry up, it will be SEGA who buys them.

    #9 1 year ago
  10. dreamcastnews

    Haha imagine that !

    #10 1 year ago
  11. Ireland Michael

    @9 Considering SEGA can barely keep themselves afloat right now, I highly doubt. Right now its Nintendo supporting their franchises that is basically keeping the company alive. I can see someone having to buy out SEGA at some point soon enough just to save them from going under completely.

    Regarding the topic… Nintendo is fine.

    Even when their hardware wasn’t the best selling on the market, they still managed to make a yearly profit, which is more than can be said for Microsoft or Sony. It’s only recently that they had their first year of financial loss. Lets no conveniently forget that we’re in the middle of a huge worldwide recession though.

    #11 1 year ago
  12. YoungZer0

    @11: I wasn’t being serious, SEGA is royally messed up, but I do think Nintendo is in Danger if they continue to do what they’ve been doing for past few years.

    #12 1 year ago
  13. dreamcastnews

    @11 +1

    #13 1 year ago
  14. DSB

    SEGA are doing poorly? Aside from a lot of dodgy games, how exactly?

    They’re restructuring, but they’re making loads of cash, and wallstreet loves them.

    #14 1 year ago
  15. OnionPowder

    Yeah SEGA is doing fantastic, they posted almost $5 billion in revenue for 2012 and over 5 billion in revenue for 2011.

    #15 1 year ago
  16. Ireland Michael

    @15 Not sure where you’re getting those kinds of figures from.

    They’ve been up and down like a yoyo of late. I understand they’re making a profit this quarter, but the market is very volatile right now, and I for one am nervous about their future.

    #16 1 year ago
  17. Clupula

    Sega are not in any danger of being bought by Nintendo right now. Their game output in the West may be seriously lacking, but they are not doing poorly world-wide and on PC.

    #17 1 year ago
  18. DSB

    @16 Yeah, but that’s pretty common in restructuring. It didn’t hurt their shareprice a lot, and for good reason, because after that came this:

    http://www.vg247.com/2013/05/10/sega-q1-financials-aliens-sold-1-3m-units-profits-up-53/

    Sales up, revenue up, profits up.

    #18 1 year ago
  19. Ireland Michael

    @18 I hope it lasts. I just worry about them. Things were pretty rocky there for a while.

    #19 1 year ago
  20. DSB

    @19 For sure, and it’s amazing that they’re actually making money.

    They really do need to be watching their investments a lot closer than they are. Alpha Protocol and Aliens Colonial Marines were just terrible, and should’ve been killed before they ever made it to market.

    #20 1 year ago
  21. dreamcastnews

    Sega used to rule with games like Panzer Dragoon Orta, Billy Hatcher, Headhunter etc…..

    They really need their creative studios back again :/

    I would have loved Sega to continue hardware ideally but it just wasn’t viable in a market dominated by Sony at the time.
    I’d hate to see Nintendo go the same way, I know they won’t though.

    #21 1 year ago
  22. Ireland Michael

    @20 Its pretty clear that Alien’s lack of quality didn’t really affect its sales all that much.

    #22 1 year ago
  23. Francis O

    Wii U a dismal Failure Clupula? Damn that’s pretty good considering it sold more than the Xbox 360 and PS3 in their first 6 months. I wonder what will happen when Mario Kart U, 3D Mario, and Zelda get released this fall?

    And no Nintendo should not put their IPs on the PS4 and Xbone. The article was referring to mobile platforms not competing home consoles.

    #23 1 year ago
  24. Francis O

    Clupula, I checked out your YouTube man, you need more subs. Lets collaborate on a debate and they will skyrocket.

    #24 1 year ago
  25. Clupula

    @23 – The Wii U sold more in its first month than they did in their first six, yes. And then it slowed down to a crawl, selling way less than they did in the same period of subsequent months. It had a better first month, but the five afterwards have been dismal.

    #25 1 year ago
  26. Lengendaryboss

    @Francis
    I knew you would turn up, you always do :)

    #26 1 year ago
  27. Clupula

    @21 – As a big Sega fan, I have to admit I haven’t heard of Billy Hatcher. Did it have a different name in the States, maybe?

    #27 1 year ago
  28. JGMR

    The best thing Mr. Livingstone can do, is keeping his mouth shut.

    #28 1 year ago
  29. OnionPowder

    @22 Sega is safe and secure with Sammy behind them. They make enough money from their Japanese Pachinko machines, guaranteeing that they will be around for a while.

    #29 1 year ago
  30. monkeygourmet

    @27

    It’s a great fun game, had it on the GameCube. There is a Billy Hatcher themed level in the new Sonic Racing Transformed game. :)

    #30 1 year ago
  31. Clupula

    @30 – Do you think I purchased that? lol

    I’m going to have to google the name, aren’t I?

    #31 1 year ago
  32. Clupula

    Ah, no wonder I didn’t know it. It was a Gamecube game. Never owned one of those.

    I thought it was like a lost Genesis title that I had somehow missed. I had all the Sega systems except a Master System and that, my cousin had in his room.

    #32 1 year ago
  33. Clupula

    Except the 32X. As big of a Sega fanboy as I was (I will still argue with anyone who says the Sega CD was a bad system), even I knew that was going to be a disaster.

    #33 1 year ago
  34. dizzygear

    @33 In retrospect i’d say the MegaCD was too ahead of its time. And yes i’m 100% biased because i had one.

    #34 1 year ago
  35. dreamcastnews

    Clupula – it was awesome. One of my favourite Sega games post-DC

    #35 1 year ago
  36. ps3fanboy

    blubb blubb blubb…. that’s the sound of wii-utanic going down.

    #36 1 year ago
  37. nollie4545

    The MegaCD was just too far ahead of its time for sure. Good idea, poorly implemented. Ditto 32X.

    In my book Nintendo are pretty much finished.

    #37 1 year ago
  38. manamana

    @clupula absolutely. And yet I bought it solely for Virtua Fighter, Virtua Racing and that Star Wars game :-D

    #38 1 year ago
  39. MisterNobody

    So let’s get this straight. First EA, voted “second worst company in america” two years straight, responsible for the most expensive game failure of all time, says Nintendo should just throw in the hat.

    Now, Eidos “Square has said we weren’t worth the money, none of our games are reaching sales expectations, and our entire staffs are probably a few months from restructuring” has decided to share their opinions?

    Man, everyone just wants to make their bullshit known lately.

    #39 1 year ago
  40. monkeygourmet

    @39

    And who are you to comment?! Nobody, that’s who!!! ;)

    #40 1 year ago
  41. manamana

    But nobody speaks the truth! :P

    #41 1 year ago
  42. DSB

    No he doesn’t! EA weren’t voted second worst company in America, they were voted THE worst company in America.

    He’s a filthy EA lover, is all he is. Gosh.

    #42 1 year ago
  43. manamana

    Hehehe.

    #43 1 year ago
  44. Francis O

    Clupula, so you don’t think games like a new 3D Mario or Mario Kart will drastically improve sales?

    The Wii U sales have slowed because Nintendo had no new software to release. Once they get back to releasing new software, the sales will go up.

    I think the new Mario Kart, new 3D Mario, Zelda, and Sonic Lost World is going to make Wii U’s fly off the shelf.

    #44 1 year ago
  45. Fin

    The man has a point.

    #45 1 year ago
  46. manamana

    And he didn’t even mentioned the new Monolith title thats in the works …

    #46 1 year ago
  47. Francis O

    @Legendaryboss

    I defend Nintendo because I think they are a good company. They make amazing first party titles and focus on gameplay first. They’re not perfect but nobody is.

    They also think about the consumers as backwards compatibility, free online, used games, no DRM, Wii controller support, and cheap price are all part of Nintendo’s way.

    You can’t say the same about Sony and MS.

    Sony is good for gaming, but I do feel their games tend to focus on graphics over gameplay (Killzone)

    MS is horrible, the fact I can’t borrow a game from a friend and play it on the Xbone without paying a fee is the worst anti-consumer tactic since DRM. Which MS does have in a limited form.

    #47 1 year ago
  48. MisterNobody

    I honestly can’t imagine why any gamer would want to live in a world where only the corporate bullshit of Sony versus Microsoft exists.

    I mean, who would they steal their ideas from in a world without Sega and Nintendo?

    #48 1 year ago
  49. DSB

    @47 Cheap price? Are you shitting me? They’ve had some of the most expensive controllers for years, and they practically never lower the price of their games.

    I tried to get an older game for the Wii and it cost as much as the latest Call of Duty.

    Insanity.

    #49 1 year ago
  50. manamana

    ^ +1

    #50 1 year ago
  51. Rockin a Jack D

    Absolutely not. Sony & MS should release their IP on other platforms i.e. PC…

    #51 1 year ago
  52. Francis O

    DSB – I meant the price of their consoles.

    PS3 in 2006: $599.99

    Xbox 360 in 2006: $399.99

    Wii in 2006: $249.99

    3DS – $169.99

    PS Vita – $249.99

    #52 1 year ago
  53. DSB

    @52 Sure, but if you’re just making it back on games and peripherals, who cares?

    The most expensive part isn’t buying a console, it’s owning it.

    #53 1 year ago
  54. TrickyAudio

    @51 They do?…..

    #54 1 year ago
  55. Clupula

    @44 – Short term? I think they will definitely give the Wii U a boost. Long term, no. I don’t think they’ll be enough to sustain the system. I mean, if Nintendo are happy with the current Wii U sales 9 months of the year and then, say, triple those sales for the month after they release a Mario or a Zelda, and then going back to how it was before, then I guess they can keep going the way they’re going.

    #55 1 year ago
  56. Francis O

    Clupula, how can you know long term? We don’t know what software they have planned for 2014 and on. What if they pay for other major exclusives like Bayonetta 2 and Sonic Lost World to build momentum?

    What if they make a full blown Pokemon game for Wii U that links up with Pokemon X and Y? What if they pay for Monster Hunter 4 to come to the Wii U? What if they make a New NON MMO Dragon Quest game for Wii U?

    All of these have a high possibility of happening. And MS is non existent in Japan. I think Nintendo is going to to a lot better than you’re predicting.

    #56 1 year ago
  57. Francis O

    @DSB

    Nobody forces you to purchase all of the Wii’s other controllers or control mechanisms.

    You only need a Wii mote and nunchuck to play 99% of the Wii games. Some games you don’t even need a nunchuck (Metroid Other M, Punch Out, Mario Kart,)

    #57 1 year ago
  58. DSB

    @57 Right…

    Nobody forces me to buy the Wii either, so if we’re really going there, I could save 250 by getting an emulator on my PC.

    But if we’re really gonna go into those kinds of bullshit hypotheticals, then things are going to get silly pretty fast.

    Let’s look at it this way. Have you seen a Wii commercial that has a single player sitting in front of his Wii with his one Wiimote and Nunchuck happily playing his games in his utterly friend- and familyless world?

    #58 1 year ago
  59. stealth

    no no no

    #59 1 year ago
  60. Francis O

    It’s not a bullshit hypothetical when 99% of Wii games only need a Wii mote and nunchuck to play the game.

    I’ve seen Wii commercials with a single player playing and others watching. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kdAaGczvws

    #60 1 year ago
  61. FrostPM

    Nintendo would literary digg its own grave if it became multiplatform. First of all there would be no point buing a N console. Second, BigN have now it’s own slice of the market that they control. Instead going multiplatform and struggling with competition and dumping prices (mobile games for 1$, I’m looking at you), they should work more on eShop and VC because it has huge potential in terms of great oldschool games.

    Nintendo is doing fine for over 20 years and I like their strategy. If N will have 100% control over their games and hardware I will always buy their stuff.

    #61 1 year ago
  62. OlderGamer

    For multiple console owning gamers, like most of us here, what is the big deal? Not like console gaming is a choice between three systems. Not for most of us. I own almost everything. I even have a jaguar with toilet bowl CD siting on top.

    Like Nintendo games? Would play them on other systems? Stop pretending to be some moral high road wanderer, buy the Nintendo system. Otherwise your missing out. Only cheating yourself.

    Imagine asking yourself what Panzer Dragoon Saga was. Or having never played Guardian Hereos? Or Shining Wisdom? Or Dragon Force. Or many many more just because you were in love with Playstation One, and Refused to buy a Sega Saturn. I say get over yourself. Grow up. Drop the fanboi drivel and do what gamers do…play the great games. Regardless of the hardware.

    At the very lest I would say own a 3DSxl. Maybe wait for a price drop on the WiiU(while making a list of games you would enjoy playing).

    Vital and crucial to biz is consumer perception. More important, often times, then a positive perception of your own goods is a negative one of your competiters goods. MS doesn’t care if you LOVE their hardware half as much as if you feel you HATE Sonys and Nintendos. Where we mess up collectively is losing sight of the fact that games trump hardware.

    That being said, I fully understand that an increasingly larger number of people can’t afford gaming or to keep up with games and systems. Owning games is a luxury. But for many many of us here on sites like this, we do tend to own multiple systems.

    #62 1 year ago