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Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy 13 is 70% complete – report

Wednesday, 29th May 2013 11:44 GMT By Dave Cook

Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy is currently 70% complete, according to a report from Japanese magazine Famitsu.

This Famitsu reader tweeted out the status of all current Final Fantasy projects. Note that Versus is absent from the list:

So that’s Final Fantasy X HD at 80% complete, Final Fantasy X-2 HD at 65%, Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy 13 at 70% and then finally, Final Fantasy 8 on PC at 80%.

It was recently rumoured that Final Fantasy Versus 13 had been renamed Final Fantasy 15 and was heading to next-gen formats. Check out our report through the link.

So it seems Lightning Returns could be targeting a ‘Fall’ release. What do you think folks?

Thanks NeoGAF.

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  1. Clupula

    Did I get in before Salarta? YES!

    #1 11 months ago
  2. SplatteredHouse

    yippety skip. HEY! What about Versus, indeed.

    #2 11 months ago
  3. livewired500

    I have FF8 on PC already from long time ago. What are they changing?

    #3 11 months ago
  4. Clupula

    @2 – I still hope, that Versus stays Versus, and that XV is based on the Agnes’ Philosophy trailer, with a more traditional battle system.

    #4 11 months ago
  5. KineticCalvaria

    Way too many final fantasy games out there, only really enjoyed… 8? I think.

    #5 11 months ago
  6. SplatteredHouse

    @3 “HD” version of the original, apparently they weren’t that happy with how the PC version of FFVIII reached players. I’ve heard it was in a less-than great technical state. I seriously hope they will localize this though, as that game’s brilliant!

    It would be nice to see a little modern polish on it. OMG if they up-res/re-encode those lush, action-packed narrative FMVs!! :D
    BTW, Final Fantasy VII featured an original graphics mode option in the Settings, so people could still view it as originally designed, which was a nice touch.

    #6 11 months ago
  7. Akira_Tenshi

    FF Versus XIII 0.01% complete.

    #7 11 months ago
  8. Soong

    Since it’s Square we’re talking about here, 70% complete could mean anything from “it’s being released next year!” to “we’re aiming for a 2023 release date!”

    #8 11 months ago
  9. salarta

    I don’t think there are too many Final Fantasy games, only that there are too many that suck or don’t matter. FF13 needs to just stop ASAP, FFXHD is okay but unnecessary, FFX-2HD needs to stop, FF8 on PC is okay but unnecessary. I’m actually hoping Versus has been changed to FF15, because unlike FF13, it actually counts as a Final Fantasy game, and deserves to be a main entry in the series. Though, I still won’t be touching it until 3rd Birthday is completely undone and made up for, which will probably be never.

    @1: Don’t worry, I’ll just break into the site, delete your comment and retroactively substitute it with my own. :)

    #9 11 months ago
  10. Clupula

    The best Final Fantasy is X. Followed by IX, with XIII next.

    From worst to first, my ranking of them are (not counting sequels to individual titles, even though I love both X-2 and XIII-2):

    FFV
    FFXII
    FFVIII
    FFIV
    FFVI
    FFVII
    FFXIII
    FFIX
    FFX

    I never played XI or II, and I only played about an hour of I so I can’t judge it. If I had to rank the sequels as well, X-2 and XIII-2 would be not as good as VII and better than VI. Dirge of Cerberus would be better than IV, but not as good as VIII.

    #10 11 months ago
  11. Rockin a Jack D

    More JAP crap…

    #11 11 months ago
  12. Metroid455

    #11 slow clap, did you want a cookie for that racist remark?

    #12 11 months ago
  13. salarta

    Best to worst, personal opinion of course.

    FFIV
    FFVI
    FFVIII
    FFIX
    FFX
    FFVII
    FFT
    FFMQ
    FFV
    FFXII
    FFI
    FFIII
    FFII
    FFX-2

    The only one that’s actually bad on that list is FFX-2. I didn’t include FF13 because I never played it and I never will, though by my perspective of what I’ve seen, I’d end up ranking it just above FFX-2. I included the side games I wanted to represent.

    #13 11 months ago
  14. Ireland Michael

    @13 I’ll this now about FFXIII-2, as stupid as the whole dress-sphere thing was, the battle system of that game itself was great.

    The only Final Fantasy game I outright hate is FFXIII. What an utter clusterfuck of a game in every way possible.

    #14 11 months ago
  15. Clupula

    @14 – Personally, I think XIII had the absolute best characters in the entire series. It was the first one where, by the time it was done, I didn’t hate anyone (FFX had Wakka, IX had whatever that blue mage guy was named, VII had Cait Sith). I say “by the time it was done,” btw, because up until around the halfway mark of the game, I had a Vaan-level hatred for Hope. But I liked that his personality changed halfway through and I learned to see the character as being alright. It was also the first one where I didn’t feel there was a useless party member (even in FFX, which is my favorite, about halfway through the game Kimahri becomes completely useless, battle-wise)

    The worst characters go to XII, where there are only two out of the entire lineup that had any personality whatsoever (Balthier and Dr. Sid).

    Worst battle system, without a doubt, is VIII, which also wins worst plot twist (so bad that I actually stopped playing for two weeks and then just forced myself to continue since I had already gotten that far) and worst last boss battle (although X’s actual last boss is the most disappointing).

    #15 11 months ago
  16. Clupula

    Actually, it’s funny when I think about it. FFX is my favorite, yet there are some glaring problems I had with the game overall. Blitzball, for one, was one of the worst things in a JRPG ever. When I was forced to play that first match, I remember distinctly saying to myself that if I actually had to learn the rules and get good at this stupid imaginary sport just to progress in the game, I would have just quit right then and there and not finished X. Luckily, you can still keep going if you lose that first match and then you never have to play it again (although it does guarantee that X is one game I will never platinum). I also really disliked Wakka. While I know you’re supposed to be happy that he comes to accept Rikku at the end of the game, to me it was just like, he’s this ridiculous religious fanatic who learns to be slightly less of an asshole by the end of the game. And I really did not like him.

    And, as I said, the actual last boss was really underwhelming after the battle before it.

    Still, I think the story and every character not named Wakka and the setting and music and battle system all carry it over the others. X-2, I found to be not as good, but still wonderful. And I loved that Yuna was able to actually enjoy herself for the first time in her life after everything that happened in X.

    I also have to admit that I really liked the disappointment from some of the fanboys from that title.

    #16 11 months ago
  17. Clupula

    I’ll also say that, while I’m a fan of the series, FFX is NOT even in my top five of JRPG’s.

    The top five JRPG’s, for me are:

    1) Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne
    2) Shadow Hearts: Covenant
    3) Suikoden II
    4) Suikoden V
    5) Valkyria Chronicles

    #17 11 months ago
  18. Ireland Michael

    @15 I seriously hope you’re joking.

    The story is a complete mess. It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, and it throws nonsensical shit at you just for the sake of creating drama and conflict. Half the story contradicts itself, and doesn’t stand up to any scrutiny or analysis whatsoever. The characters spend their time doing nothing but wandering aimlessly for half the story. Then then talk, and walk some more. Then talk some more… then do so walking. Nothing happens in the story half the time, and half the time they’re just repeating the same plot point we already know for the umpteenth time.

    Snow is a complete jackass and a moron who can’t do anything but shout and pine after a girl. Lightning is sadistic and bordering on psychotic if you take five seconds to look at her actual motives and actions. Vanille is a ditz, and her friend Fang exists entirely for shipping purposes. And Hope… Jesus, at least Vaan had some sort of personal goals! Sazh is alright, but even he decided that a third of this story should be spent wandering aimlessly without any discernible goal whatsoever.

    “But I liked that his personality changed halfway through.”

    That’s the equivalent of changing your mind after being hit by a brick. There was no subtlety or sense to his character progression, and its always easier to like a character when they stop acting like a complete ass, but that doesn’t change the fact that way the story progressed was atrocious.

    I never thought I’d say this, but FFXIII actually makes Metal Gear Solid’s story look like well constructed masterpieces…

    “Worst battle system, without a doubt, is VIII, which also wins worst plot twist.”

    VIII’s battle system was great. It was just way, way too easy to exploit. It’s story was pretty terrible, but compared to XIII that at least tried to be somewhat cohesive and string together its plot elements properly, and didn’t have characters wandering aimlessly for 15 hours because they had nothing better to do.

    @17 Can’t go wrong with Shin Megami Tensei 3: Nocturne. Still one of my favourite RPGs of all times.

    #18 11 months ago
  19. Clupula

    @18 – I loved Lightning. She is probably my absolute favorite female Final Fantasy character. In fact, the scene where she punches Snow in the face is probably one of the best scenes in the franchise, because so many of the typical Final Fantasy main characters could use a punch in the face. Hell, the entire cast of XII could use a beatdown with baseball bats. But Lightning was awesome. She didn’t take shit from anyone and the only one she really cared about was her sister. I can totally appreciate that.

    And Vanille is a ditz on purpose. It’s her way of dealing with all the shit going on around her. There’s a scene where she even says it herself.

    And as for them wandering around, if you’ve just been declared public enemy number one, what exactly are going to do? Form a resistance with all three people you happen to be with? I guess, what most people would do is find someplace to hide, but that isn’t going to make for a very exciting game, is it? They’re being hunted through most of the game. What exactly would you have had them do in those circumstances?

    #19 11 months ago
  20. Clupula

    @18 – And as for VIII, the battle system was horrible. I hated having to steal spells in order to use them or to have to button mash for 15 minutes to make a summon do more damage. And the whole junction system? Not only was that annoying, but then, during the last boss battle, when the boss randomly kills one of your guardian forces and you’re basically just left with “attack,” it’s just boring.

    I’m not saying XIII was perfect, but it was worlds better than VIII.

    #20 11 months ago
  21. Gnosis

    “if you’ve just been declared public enemy number one, what exactly are going to do?”

    Not go into an amusement park.

    #21 11 months ago
  22. salarta

    FF12 as a whole had this bizarre feeling to me of having all these sexually suggestive designs and moments, yet the atmosphere coming off as distinctly asexual.

    My favorite female character of the franchise is Rosa from FF4. A lot of people ignorantly and maliciously bash the character because they like to think that Rosa was nothing but a problem, simultaneously ignoring the actual circumstances of events and exaggerating the severity of the bits they complain about. For instance, people complain that Golbez kidnapped her, pretending that she could have done anything about it when Golbez just kicked everyone’s asses and resisting could have meant Cecil or anyone else dying or being killed. She can also be damn powerful with a bow and arrow, not that anyone notices because they exclusively used her white magic and ignored any other functions.

    Lastly, buying into Toriyama’s bullshit of “it had to be linear because they were on the run” is just… well, bullshit. You’re telling me there couldn’t have been other areas to explore WITHIN the caves and other locations they go through, and that there couldn’t be multiple locations to reach at once? FF6 had Terra and Locke on the run on a technically linear path for a long time, and they still managed to provide some room for exploration.

    @14: I’ll agree, the gameplay was one of the few good things about FFX-2. It just boggles my mind that people accept the crap put forth for character changes to people like Yuna and Rikku from FFX to FFX-2. I consider positive reception of that to be a definitive sign of the degrading standards of quality in video games, since decades ago people would have rightfully complained about making changes that don’t fit the characters completely out of nowhere.

    @18: The designs of FF13′s characters are interesting to me, but that’s really where it ends. I have a feeling that if FF13 was made as a proper Final Fantasy game rather than some random science fiction game with that name on it, and it was all done by someone that actually cares about quality rather than that hack Toriyama, I would have been greatly interested in many characters. Also, every time I look at Fang, I find myself thinking she’s never bathed.

    #22 11 months ago
  23. Da Man

    This is an amazing game, much better than Nintendo gibberish for kids and perverts (obviously only perverts or kids would want to play a platformer where you save some Princess Peach, no story, no emotions etc)

    #23 11 months ago
  24. Ireland Michael

    @19 “Hell, the entire cast of XII could use a beatdown with baseball bats.”

    At least they actually *did* something throughout the story of XII. Then again, XII is my favourite Final Fantasy game ever, and I will defend it to the death… don’t even get me started on that… =P

    “And Vanille is a ditz on purpose. It’s her way of dealing with all the shit going on around her. There’s a scene where she even says it herself.”

    Yes, I remember it, and it was a terrible reason. It came completely out of nowhere and makes no logical sense. “I act stupid to deal with trauma”? No, I’m sorry, that’s not how people act. I have never, ever heard of a person dealing with trauma by acting ditzy. It was just a stupid excuse to tick off yet another tired anime cliche.

    “And as for them wandering around, if you’ve just been declared public enemy number one, what exactly are going to do?”

    Like Gnosis said… not walk into an amusement park, for one. It still doesn’t change the fact that they spent a good ten hours of the game just running around aimlessly because they had nothing better to do… and then ended up getting captured anyway. It’s redundant storytelling.

    “Form a resistance with all three people you happen to be with?”

    Hey, it worked for Barrett…

    “I guess, what most people would do is find someplace to hide.”

    That’s fine, as long it doesn’t take up a third of the entire story.

    @22 “I consider positive reception of that to be a definitive sign of the degrading standards of quality in video games, since decades ago people would have rightfully complained about making changes that don’t fit the characters completely out of nowhere.”

    Lets not rose tint the past, please. “Decades” ago, most games were so simplistic there wasn’t anything like that to even start criticising. There were plenty of games back then which were guilty of the same thing… FFVIII being one perfect example.

    #24 11 months ago
  25. salarta

    @24: There are a couple things for me to say there, on your last point. The first is that pre-90s and even somewhat into the 90s, video games were considered more like toys than a potential art form and medium for story-telling. For that reason, we have to expect incredibly asinine changes to characters back then. By the time FFX-2 rolled around, and of course in the present day, video games were considered a genuinely viable medium for actual story.

    Now, compare that to how people treated other mediums when viewing them as a story-telling platform in that time period. Radical changes to characters in film and TV, and even in comic books, were regularly bashed, especially if they were done to cash in on popular trends. Even with video games, the Super Mario Bros. live action film is a good example of this issue. We even had a celebrated return to the roots of certain characters, like Batman following Dark Knight Returns and the 1989 film, while storylines trying to make characters like Superman dark and edgy were rejected.

    What we have is video game consumers, when the video game medium has already been proven by things like past Final Fantasy games to be perfectly viable for meaningful story-telling, encouraging companies to say “Screw story, let’s throw in random changes that come out of left field, throw in some bullshit excuse for their cause, and maybe toss in more ass or blood to make it sexier or grittier.”

    People that value the story-telling capacity of other mediums would have shown more demand for respect to source material than what we do today. And oddly, it’s the projects that actually stick closer to the source material when it comes to concepts and character depictions, such as Metal Gear Rising Revengance, they get bashed as supposedly straying too far. While games that completely redefine characters into the opposite of what they were supposed to be get lauded as some kind of pinnacle of story-telling. We’re ass-backwards in priorities, with no concept whatsoever to the damage it’s going to cause the industry in the long-run.

    The other thing I have to say is that FF8 was a perfectly fine game.

    #25 11 months ago
  26. X-Guard

    Is anyone actually buying this game? I know I’m not. I’m close to finish and I can tell you I’m already sick of Lightning.

    #26 11 months ago
  27. rpgczar

    I’m waiting for the game to get cheaper before I buy it. FF 8 was not a bad game. It was better than ff 13. In ff 8 you could basically use your limits all game long and own everything.

    #27 11 months ago
  28. malethief

    Oh goodness with the 2 FF HD remakes, Lightning Returns, and Kingdom Hearts HD remake, it’s going to be a busy RPG season this fall.

    #28 11 months ago